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To: PatrickHenry

Don't you guys ever get tired of this silly debate? It's always the same 20 or so guys arguing back and forth. Nobody gets convinced of anything.

Not directed personally at you, PH, but all of you as a group.


12 posted on 02/21/2005 4:18:38 AM PST by ovrtaxt (McClellan: Do away with daily press briefings! Come straight to the New Media!)
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To: ovrtaxt

How do you feel about evolution?


17 posted on 02/21/2005 4:22:09 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: ovrtaxt

It must be difficult being you.


18 posted on 02/21/2005 4:22:13 AM PST by Nephi (Compassionate Conservativism: Sure it's socialism, but what were you gonna do, vote for JFK?)
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To: ovrtaxt
Don't you guys ever get tired of this silly debate?

No, because I've learned more about science and evolution from the likes of PH than I ever would have sitting in some boring class room.

Eventhough I believe evolution is a religion, the knowledge gained from science is immeasurable.

20 posted on 02/21/2005 4:23:37 AM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: ovrtaxt
Don't you guys ever get tired of this silly debate? It's always the same 20 or so guys arguing back and forth.

First, there are nearly 250 pro-science people on the evolution ping list. All but the first dozen or so (regulars from around 4 years ago) have specifically requested to be on the list. Most don't actively participate, but they sure do lurk.

Second, the purpose of these threads is to counter the dems' propaganda that all conservatives are ignorant flat-earthers. That's what it's all about. If the dems can ever frame the debate so it's them against the Dark Ages, we're going to lose. Those who don't know what I'm talking about are part of the problem.

21 posted on 02/21/2005 4:25:03 AM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: ovrtaxt
Don't you guys ever get tired of this silly debate? It's always the same 20 or so guys arguing back and forth. Nobody gets convinced of anything.

Well, to paraphrase an old classic: "If the creationists will stop telling lies about evolutionists, we'll stop telling the truth about the creationists."

If there wasn't so much misinformation to correct, I'd be quite happy discussing something else. But I can't sit by and let people tell waves of falsehoods when I *know* they're falsehoods and other people might swallow them. A mind is a terrible thing to waste on anti-scientific propaganda.

32 posted on 02/21/2005 4:31:18 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: ovrtaxt

You're right. The pattern is always the same. Starts with an article, then within a few posts the Creationists are ridiculed (who often leave after being attacked so much), and then the anti-Creationists pat each other on the back for a bit, laughing at the foolish Creationists....

Fun for a bit, but never a productive conversation because of all the ad hominem attacks and straw men arguments from the anti-Creationists....


40 posted on 02/21/2005 4:38:24 AM PST by Theo
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To: ovrtaxt

"Don't you guys ever get tired of this silly debate? "

As long as one group or the other continues to fight for what shall be taught in schools, I suspect the debate will continue?


79 posted on 02/21/2005 5:20:04 AM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX: (Dems have no plan, no agenda, no solutions.))
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To: ovrtaxt
Nobody gets convinced of anything.

It's more for the Lurkers
(with apologies to Boston)

I woke up this morning and the PC's on
Logged onto FR to start my day
I got wrapped up in a crevo thread
A paradigm shifts and it slips my way.

It's more for the Lurkers (more for the Lurkers)
Hear the old canards the creos say (more for the Lurkers)
I begin posting (more for the Lurkers)
Till I feel a paradigm shift my way
I feel a paradigm shifting my way.

So many threads have come and gone
So many more await their turn;
Yet I recall as I battle on,
We do it so the lurker's learn.

Chorus

[Guitar Solo]

When the creo's canards are getting old
I grab some links and post away,
And think of a lurker reading this.
A paradigm shifts and it slips my way.

It slips my way.

Chorus

82 posted on 02/21/2005 5:32:18 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: ovrtaxt; Jim Robinson
Nobody gets convinced of anything.

Wouldn't it be better if there were a Science forum?
There might be somewhat less bickering on the main news forum.

129 posted on 02/21/2005 9:21:43 AM PST by ASA Vet (FreeRepublic needs a science forum.)
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To: ovrtaxt
PH and the group are doing a service. Yes, the argument goes no where insofar as any Creationists will see the light, but it does two things.

1) Offers truth and the information to fight the fight to those who might be swayed with no opposition.

2) Provides some sanity and counter points in an effort to prevent the Left from using this as a cudgel to beat us to death. If 1/2 of us are vocally opposed to this moon-battery then it will be a little harder to lump all conservatives in together.

Creationism is a Cancer on Conservatism.

187 posted on 02/21/2005 11:18:17 AM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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To: ovrtaxt; PatrickHenry
Don't you guys ever get tired of this silly debate? It's always the same 20 or so guys arguing back and forth. Nobody gets convinced of anything.

Not directed personally at you, PH, but all of you as a group.

Yep. The idea is to ping all those who differ, so they can be called every name in the book, including ridiculing God's name, plus reflecting the snobbery of the Evo masters who gain pleasure and satisfaction from their masterbation to the awe and delight of their audience. Most peculiar I must say.

402 posted on 02/21/2005 6:24:21 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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