[general_re]

Well, we obviously can't lean on the modern definition of "ape" - none of those animals are ancestors of humans, that much is for sure. So if we want to see if some "apes" evolved into humans, we'll need to look somewhere else for our ape.

[RightWingNilla]

This conversation reminds me of something my boss said a while ago...

If you met Australopithicus dressed in a suit waiting for the train, you would'nt exactly go up to him and say "Hey dude!".