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To: william clark
Posts like this make me smile. Very well said! It bares repeating for those who may have missed it.

Wow, there are so many misstatements of fact and false leaps of logic in your reply, I don't have time to address them all without being late for work.

I'll focus on one, however. You claim that the processes involved in microevolution and macroevolution are exactly the same. Nonsense. Microevolution, as observed without the "intelligent design" interference of manipulation by researchers, occurs within our lifetime and does not demonstrate favorable mutations, but rather a process of natural selection of traits that are already built into the genetic code of a species, generally asserting themselves based on environmental factors. Macroevolution PRESUPPOSES favorable mutations that are not accompanied by sterility and which occur so swiftly that their developmental process does not impede the very survival of the species.

When you defend your position by citing 150 years worth of data, I have to laugh. That time frame is so minute compared to the eons necessitated by your model, that to stake out such an intransigent position is beyond absurd. For one to depend on the readings from an instrument, one must be able to calibrate the instrument. How, pray tell, do you calibrate an instrument for which there is no verifiable data with which to compare it? The very length of time required for the macroevolutionary theory to play itself out is the very thing that works against you, as it is exponentially likely that over the ages there are multiple factors you haven't even been capable of considering. I have no beef with macroevolution as speculation based on what science has learned. What annoys the hell out of me is the arrogance -- the utter lack of humility -- that prevents people like you from saying something as simple as "Well, maybe you're right. I'm just not convinced." No, you feel obligated to denigrate those who haven't bought into your scenario.

And, by the way, logical inference is considered valid legal argumentation, so to say that there is no evidence for the idea that "God did it" is another of your blind spots.

870 posted on 12/01/2004 8:07:55 AM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical! † [Check out my profile page])
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To: bondserv
I especially liked this quote:

What annoys the hell out of me is the arrogance -- the utter lack of humility -- that prevents people like you from saying something as simple as "Well, maybe you're right. I'm just not convinced."

Additionally, their inability to provide research showing their theory to be valid should be a concern. On another thread, maybe even this one, the evo's were asked to provide a cite to an experiment that showed DATA from a speciation event caused by RMNS -- none was offered. Where's the science? Where are the cites to the successful experiments?

875 posted on 12/01/2004 8:52:31 AM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo (The best theory is not ipso facto a good theory.)
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