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To: AndrewC
Non-reproducing individuals have no impact on future populations.

False. Non-reproducing individuals may extend the breeding lives of reproducing individuals. Ants and bees have evolved this to a nicety. The breeding individuals cannot even survive to breed without the non-reproducing individuals.

1,406 posted on 12/05/2004 2:21:55 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic; js1138; AndrewC
> Non-reproducing individuals may extend the breeding lives of reproducing individuals.

>Agressive individuals can make good soldiers and benefit their community, even if they die before reproducing.

I believe the point Andrew is making is that, insofar as non-breeding species do not pass genetic material from one generation to the next, they have no effect on the species per se. If you want to turn his point into an argument about the effect of experience and environment on a species, we might as well talk about how butterflies can start weather patterns that result in thunderstorms.

1,414 posted on 12/05/2004 6:04:46 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Doctor Stochastic
The breeding individuals cannot even survive to breed without the non-reproducing individuals.

We are discussing evolution, not factories. No breeding individuals can survive without the sun. So what.

1,416 posted on 12/05/2004 6:08:16 PM PST by AndrewC (New Senate rule -- Must vote on all Presidential appointments period certain.)
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