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To: Redbob
Bork lost 42-58. It wasn't that close. I think Deconcini and others would have voted against him anyway. In 1987 the 'Rats had taken over the Senate, and Iran-Contra was starting to hurt. It wasn't a good time to get Bork through. At the time I remember some critics saying Reagan should have appointed Bork earlier, when he had the Senate, and Scalia in 1987. But I can't fault Reagan for that; Nino was simply better than Bork.

Our problem hasn't been the Justices we can't get through, but the ones we did. How about the following list -- match the bad nomination to the President: Blackmun, O'Connor, Souter, Warren, Stevens. Hint: None were nominated by 'Rats. All were disasters. The worst of the lot IMHO is Sandra Dee O'Connor, who now thinks we should cite European Courts in SCOTUS decisions. She has a way to go to rise to the level of mediocrity.

We need ruthless nominations like FDR's first - Senator Black, a liberal New Deal Deep South Big Government activist; a guy the Southern Senators hated but had to confirm. Too bad he turned out to be a Klansman, but he got FDR's view of the Federal Government approved. We need equally powerful nominees on our side.

136 posted on 11/15/2004 2:34:59 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (31 Red States - All Your Senate Are Belong To Us!!)
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To: You Dirty Rats
I'm gonna be difficult here and say that I'm relieved Bork didn't get confirmed.

His position on the Second Amendment disqualifies him for me. He believes it is a collective not individual right and only applies to the "state militia", which he sees as the equivalent of the "National Guard".

I can't understand his view, which is completely inconsistent with much of his constitutional thought, other than that he just must be a real anti-gunner.

137 posted on 11/15/2004 2:38:56 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: You Dirty Rats
Everybody knew Black was a klansman, at least everyone who was paying attention.

In certain areas of the South and the Midwest (esp. Indiana) at that time, you had to join the Klan to get anywhere in politics.

138 posted on 11/15/2004 2:39:52 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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