Posted on 11/15/2004 1:04:53 PM PST by hinterlander
I've never threatened to withhold my vote.
To stick to the subject matter of this thread, neither has Dobson.
He simply pointed out the fact that many ultimately will if they and their principles are sold down the river.
If the pro-life cause is not advanced, after all of this, the GOP is going to have a huge political mess of its own making on its hands. That is a fact.
re: And one wonder if, since the Hispanics voted in greater numbers than Evangelicals did, you'll be quite so willing when the Hispanics "come calling" with their demands)))
Actually, why not? If they vote, if they have supported us, if they have concerns, why not listen? And, don't assume that Hispanics are Catholic. Huge numbers of them are evangelical. Who owns the table, and who cuts the pie? Not Michael Barone, not me, not you.
Since the election, I've watched some of the "elites" and "intellectuals" among conservatives suddenly rush to discount the validity of the evangelical vote. Brooks, Krauthammer to name two. Forgive me if I suspect that they'd just like to cut conservative Christians out of the Republican party because...because...well, they're just plain icky. Southern and a little red-necky. The poster that expressed resentment that he feels like he's being told, "Now that you've voted, shut up, because you don't exist, because I don't want to have to rub elbows with you"-- I know exactly what he's talking about.
As for Dobson, I once worked for the guy. I don't like him. He's cold-blooded and a plain old sexist. I don't particularly like him attempting to speak for evangelicals, when he's really an entrepeneur and ought to be speaking for entreneurs. But I do get my back up when he's being told to shut up "because Evangelicals didn't make all that much of a difference, anyway."
Yes, we did.
"....If Republicans don't get good judges confirmed they're through....."
119 posted on 11/15/2004 2:22:04 PM PST by mrsmith
According to some, you have just made a threat.
I don't know what poll you're talking about. The issue is all about the exit polling data. Data you can't dispute.
Btw, this isn't my theory, it isn't my website either and its definitely not my polling data. It involves the use of basic reading comprehension and simple math. When you do the same computations using the figures for Hispanics/Latinos, you see the President picked up roughly 2-million more of that minority group in 2004, compared to 2000.
I don't need a rage to prove your synopsis wrong; anybody who LOOKS at it knows that's a breakout category and cannot be figured the way you did.
But if it makes you feel better to hoist yourself on misinformation, by all means, be my guest.
More is better.
You've done what you can do. Way to go!
If you have an email list, make sure that great list of Senators you posted is getting passed around far and wide.
Everyone needs to know that they need to act now, not later.
It's the exact same questions that Zogby asks EVERY SINGLE MONTH for two years; the Evangelical question comes AFTER the religion question; you can leave off the Evangelical numbers, but you can't leave off the Religion numbers.
Strange poll if you're taking it every month or something.
Doesn't usually work that way...
But I see you won't stop torturing people's posts to make it sound like they are saying something they are not, to suit your agenda, no doubt.
Why am I not surprised that you wouldn't know how polls are administered during election years.
Some of us don't rely on polls and focus groups to tell us what we should do politically.
Maybe "some of us" should.
As usual, you're behind the eight ball and whining as loud as you can. Won't work. Facts are, you've offered NO data, NO valid info, NO nothing, to support your silly contentions that you've made on this thread.
With my original post I was attempting to bring some factual truth to the argument concerning the huge increases in "Religious Right" voters this past election and how they made the difference in the election outcome. An election outcome we're both overjoyed with. Do yourself and everyone else a favor, lighten up, Howlin.
Maybe more of us should decide based on a set of principles which don't blow with the political winds.
Figures lie, and liars figure...
Its not a sure thing to me that the Bush administration will even put up pro-life judges in the first place. The BS time is done for overturning Roe V Wade, now thank God, its time to STOP IT DEAD!
If the Bush administration and Alren Spector block this from happening, there will be a huge firestorm of condemnation from the religious right. It will burn the Republican party down to the ground!
It ain't gonna cut it to say, gee we tried but good ole baby-killin Arlen blocked our pro-life judges!
DO THE RIGHT THING and stop the MURDER OF THE INNOCENTS!
Interesting development:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1280695/posts
Besides, the libs are on the run, taking lessons in how to "talk God." It's entertaining.
Thanks!
You may have been attempting to, but all you showed was that you're willing to twist numbers to suit your agenda; there wasn't a HUGE increase in the religious right's votes; your own linked showed that they voted in no higher numbers than any other demographic group.
I provided you with what has been posted online and on this forum; I certainly hope you don't read Charles Krauthammer's article; he said that there is NO morals value mandate, period.
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