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To: #3Fan
No one has our Constitution so it doesn't matter what any of the rest of the world has done.

The "Western world" includes the US. Please provide an example wherein your doctrine regarding article IV has been followed.

Is that how you propose we decide what our law is, by what the rest of the world does instead of what our Constitution says?

"Our law" is based largely on English common law. Our constitution has roots in the Western tradition. Your reading not only ignores all historical Western precedent, but even American precedent, the dictates of the framers, Interpretive works by American experts, and the Constitution itself.

I prefer the Constitution obviously.

You appear to prefer #3Constitution, which does not exist for the remainder of the 279,999,999 people of this country. We are not bound by your inane interpretation of the document (thank goodness). Certainly the men of the South 140 years ago were not either.

805 posted on 03/17/2004 3:48:10 AM PST by Gianni (Sarcasm, the other white meat.)
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To: Gianni
Those who seek to destroy the UNITED States of America, in the 1860s and now, are the ones "oozing with hatred".
811 posted on 03/17/2004 4:32:25 AM PST by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: Gianni
The "Western world" includes the US. Please provide an example wherein your doctrine regarding article IV has been followed.

Seeing that we're the only ones that have our Constitution and secession was attempted illegally, there won't be an example. I guess common sense isn't something that comes naturally to you neoconfederates.

"Our law" is based largely on English common law. Our constitution has roots in the Western tradition. Your reading not only ignores all historical Western precedent, but even American precedent, the dictates of the framers, Interpretive works by American experts, and the Constitution itself.

You neoconcederates just don't like the Constitution do you? You want to follow the rules of a monarchy rather than our Constitution? The Constitution says that the Congress may guide how a state proves it's acts, simple as that. You can't decide to go back to the old monarchy when you see a law in the Constitution you don't like.

You appear to prefer #3Constitution, which does not exist for the remainder of the 279,999,999 people of this country. We are not bound by your inane interpretation of the document (thank goodness). Certainly the men of the South 140 years ago were not either.

And they paid dearly and are still crying today about it. Looking back, it looks as if they would've been OK if they would've proved their secession according to Article IV, but good for us, they were too lawless to follow the Constitution giving Lincoln all he needed to preserve the union. If you're going to secede, make it the will of the people and not a few plantation owners and browbeating delegates. Had Congress laid the terms for proving secession, I doubt if it would've survived and 600,000 would've been saved. When you read about those conventions, they were more about thuggery than the will of the people.

812 posted on 03/17/2004 4:37:28 AM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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