[dwills]

yes, i'm calling enthusiastic participants in rebellion at that time traitors, including perhaps some of my ancestry (haven't researched that one like the revolutionary war)

i definitely question the patriotism of those who vote against bush, given what's at stake in this election, and that of whoever doesn't vote and lets their state go dem

[Non-Sequitur]

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[lentulusgracchus]

yes, i'm calling enthusiastic participants in rebellion at that time traitors

Here we go again.

You might, before passing a deadly judgment on your own ancestors, try to learn a little about their cause first, and about the legality of secession under the Tenth Amendment -- or even, the legality of secession above the Tenth Amendment, since it was a sovereign act of the People of each State, who by seceding merely reclaimed that which had been delegated, and which they had never lost or given up the right to reclaim.

[CurlyBill]

yes, i'm calling enthusiastic participants in rebellion at that time traitors, including perhaps some of my ancestry (haven't researched that one like the revolutionary war)

You haven't really read much on this topic have you? I still cannot get over the fact that there are Freepers who have been trained to look at history through politically correct glasses... 99% of the South did fight enthusiastically, but they were fighting for their farms and their families and their states. About 5% were slave owners. The north cared little one way or the other about slavery. Teachers and some modern history books would tell you otherwise.