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To: #3Fan
[#3Fan #1555] They weren't citizens. It wasn't any different than deporting Mexicans.

Your point, clearly stated, was the racist remark that deporting Blacks, free or slave, was no different than deporting Mexicans.

[#3Fan #1788] I'm not for deporting anyone that works and has been established here.

Having arrived before the Mayflower, it would seem undeniable that Africans were established here by the time Lincoln spoke.

It appears you believe neither the slaves nor the free Blacks worked.

Perhaps you feel that Africans who arrived here in chains, without a Green Card, committed an offense which meant that their descendants, living here centuries later, could be subjected to deportation.

[#3Fan #1788] My point was that Illinois would've had a concern about excessive immigration of slaves....

I'm sure you meant to say free people with black skin.

Illinois did not want an excessive number of people with black skin in their neighborhood. #3Fan does not want an excessive number of people with brown skin in his neighborhood. No te preocupes. Ellos no vayan comer sus niños.

1,838 posted on 03/29/2004 1:26:23 AM PST by nolu chan
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To: nolu chan
Your point, clearly stated, was the racist remark that deporting Blacks, free or slave, was no different than deporting Mexicans.

Being that they weren't citizens, it's no different than the movement to deport Mexicans today. The southern states held 4 million slaves which would be proportional to 40,000,000 immigrants today. No state would be able to handle 40,000,000 jobless immigrants. There are only 10,000,000 Mexican immigrants scattered in more than one state and you see the hand-wringing over that here. And can you try to discuss this without all the name-calling?

Having arrived before the Mayflower, it would seem undeniable that Africans were established here by the time Lincoln spoke.

Illinois had laws against massive immigration. That's who it applied to, those that weren't here yet, the same as our immigration laws today.

It appears you believe neither the slaves nor the free Blacks worked.

They have to assimilate. Bringing in all at once, they can't assimilate.

Perhaps you feel that Africans who arrived here in chains, without a Green Card, committed an offense which meant that their descendants, living here centuries later, could be subjected to deportation.

I believe that being that they weren't citizens, Illinois had a right for the states that brought them to solve the problems of assimilation. Slavery had to be ended and citizenship granted before Illinois could allow open immigration between states so there wouldn't be a problem with assimilation to just one state.

I'm sure you meant to say free people with black skin.

They weren't freed yet. Just one state could not take them all in, it would be the equivilant of 40,000,000 today.

Illinois did not want an excessive number of people with black skin in their neighborhood. #3Fan does not want an excessive number of people with brown skin in his neighborhood. No te preocupes. Ellos no vayan comer sus niños.

Amazing you guys will just lie about anything you feel like. Character means nothing to you.

1,858 posted on 03/29/2004 10:44:09 AM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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