An opposing view: Descendant of black Confederate soldier speaks at museum

Thomasville Times-Enterprise ^ | 24 Feb 2004 | Mark Lastinger

[nolu chan]

See The Presidential Reform Act of April 14, 1865.

[#3Fan]

Please, Article IV refers ONLY to acts being valid in another state: "Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State." It is in reference of preventing each state for having to validate/prove (as in evidence) the acts of another state - a judgement in court, a will etc

Yeah, states have to prove their acts to other states. Thugs grabbing a gavel and proclaiming secession doesn't qualify, I'd say. If secession was never proven then those thugs engaged in a coup and were indeed rebels.

[nolu chan]

[##3Fan] The southern states got the bitch-slapping of all time. lol

Count the KIA.

It isn't much to laugh about.

[#3Fan]

There was unlawful suppression of opposing votes. It does not meet your standard.

How many voters were shot in the voting booth? If what you say is true then Lincoln should have won with 100% of the vote. If no one was shot in the voting booth then you're full of it.

[#3Fan]

Good. The "supreme" law is a creature of the people - it's creators. The states ratified to create it, and per the 10th Amendment, what is not delegated nor prohibited remains with the states.

Texas is not a foreign country and therefore the Constitution is the supreme law of the land.

[#3Fan]

See post #767.

[nolu chan]

[#3Fan] Yeah, states have to prove their acts to other states.

They prove (authenticate) their official acts by affixing the official state seal. That's the law.

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a4_1s6.html

Article 4, Section 1


[Volume 4, Page 472]

Document 6

An Act to Prescribe the Mode in Which the Public Acts, Records and Judicial Proceedings in Each State, Shall Be Authenticated So As to Take Effect in Every Other State

1 Stat. 122 1790

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the acts of the legislatures of the several states shall be authenticated by having the seal of their respective states affixed thereto: That the records and judicial proceedings of the courts of any state, shall be proved or admitted in any other court within the United States, by the attestation of the clerk, and the seal of the court annexed, if there be a seal, together with a certificate of the judge, chief justice, or presiding magistrate, as the case may be, that the said attestation is in due form. And the said records and judicial proceedings authenticated as aforesaid, shall have such faith and credit given to them in every court within the United States, as they have by law or usage in the courts of the state from whence the said records are or shall be taken.

Approved, May 26, 1790.

[#3Fan]

No, but we draw unending amusement from your unique interpretations of the Constitution.

Unique? The Confederacy was declared illegal and was defeated. I'd say I'm not the only one that saw their secession as illegal.

[#3Fan]

See The Presidential Reform Act of April 14, 1865.

Another lawbreaker you hold up as legit. Not surprising. Assassins will burn in hell.

[#3Fan]

Count the KIA.

Home-field advantage. Confederates got a taste of it in Gettysburg. Taking glee in dead American soldiers...I thought you guys said you weren't going to do that. Not surprising considering your character, you side with murderers after all. Even most Southerners of the time considered Booth as despicable.

It isn't much to laugh about.

Unlike you I laugh at the slaveowners whose crimes weren't allowed to stand, they're the ones that got bitchslapped. I don't laugh at dead Americans.

[#3Fan]

See post #767.

[nolu chan]

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[nolu chan]

SOURCE: U.S. Supreme Court, MILWAUKEE COUNTY v. M.E. WHITE CO., 296 U.S. 268

The faith and credit required to be given to judgments does not depend on the Constitution alone. Article 4, 1, not only commands that 'full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State' but it adds 'Congress may be general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.' And Congress has exercised this power, by Act of May 26, 1790, c. 11, 28 U.S.C . 687, 28 USCA 687, which provides the manner of proof of judgments of one state in the courts of another, and specifically directs that judgments 'shall have such faith and credit given to them in every court within the United States as they have by law or usage in the courts of the State from which they are taken.'

[nolu chan]

The correct quote is "Count the KIA. It isn't much to laugh about."

Only someone too cowardly to have put on the uniform would fail to understand.

[#3Fan]

See post #767.

[#3Fan]

Anger management for you too. You guys are losing it.

[nolu chan]

Right next to good old Thad Stevens who was sort of Dahmeresque.

While in college Stevens committed an act which showed a violent streak in his character. A farmer's cows were allowed to graze on the college campus, much to the annoyance of some of the students who would now and then step in cow dung, especially at night. Stevens and a friend killed one of the cows with an ax. He later confessed this crime and compensated the farmer for his cow.

A poor cow, where she is supposed to be, answers the call of nature. One of your sick, twisted heroes comes and steps in it and gets an ax and assassinates the poor cow.

#3Fan marks it down as an early showing of heroism.

[nolu chan]

#913 [#3Fan] The southern states got the bitch-slapping of all time. lol

There is the quote.

-YOU- were the one laughing at hundreds of thousands of KIA.

-I- am the one who suited up for 20 years.

I understand your ignorance. And I understand that you would put in for a medal if you got a finger caught between two keys. There is nothing quite like a Remington Raider.

You qualify, Mikey.

[#3Fan]

Who the hell is Thad Stevens and why are you so worked up about a cow? [cookoo!]

[nolu chan]

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