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The Trustworthiness of Polls Has Completely Tanked, Due to Propping Up the Cheating
Townhall ^ | 04/29/2024 | Rachel Alexander

Posted on 04/29/2024 8:37:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: allendale

In 2016 our polling location was at the church we attend.....when we walked out a poster tried to ask us exit poll questions. My 1st thought was “how do I know what your gonna do with my answers?” ......I declined and kept walking....ersonally, I found it very uncomfortable

That was the 1st and last time that has ever happened to me.


21 posted on 04/29/2024 8:58:39 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“The election will tell us the winner.”

They will tell us after the “election” who the official “winner” is.


22 posted on 04/29/2024 9:06:58 AM PDT by alternatives? (`)
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To: SeekAndFind

I was paying attention to that monthly Harvard poll until about January when they panicked after Kennedy hit 20% and the next month Biden started suddenly going up and RFK Jr going down.


23 posted on 04/29/2024 9:09:34 AM PDT by erlayman (E )
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To: one guy in new jersey

If the cheat and successfully steal it again, will it be legal to object?


That would be a big no no, spoken at the risk of being shot on sight.


24 posted on 04/29/2024 9:23:55 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SeekAndFind

I knew about it months ago.
Had an idiot that the other day insist that war with Russia is really popular because of “all these polls”.
Gotta love it.


25 posted on 04/29/2024 9:26:51 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Ron DeSantis
@GovRonDeSantis

Florida’s response to Joe Biden trying to inject gender ideology into education, undermining opportunities for girls and women, violating parents’ rights, and abusing his constitutional authority:

“We will not comply!”


26 posted on 04/29/2024 10:04:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ((“Surrender often means wisely accommodating to what is beyond our control!” — Sylvia Boorstein.))
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To: SeekAndFind

Doesn’t matter if they’re cheating or not (they are). The democrats have violated their oath and are violating the law and are overseeing a literal invasion of this counter of people they are bribing with money and encouraging to vote illegally.


27 posted on 04/29/2024 10:18:06 AM PDT by TalBlack (I We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: adorno
The cheating factor, and theft of elections, never show up before the elections. Thus polls can’t be trusted, and even the results of elections can’t be trusted.

I respectfully disagree. The left's vote cheating may not show up in polls, but they show up in gas prices. The fact that Biden's handlers aren't working to bring gas prices down tells me that they're confident in their ability to win by cheat.

28 posted on 04/29/2024 10:48:54 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Here's what I learned after several years working for a (very good) marketing research firm:

1. Polls are all biased. An unbiased poll is something of a work of art and they're difficult and expensive to prepare. Professional researchers allow for this in the analysis section, which is also expensive.

2. Polls are merchandise. They're something prepared for money sold to somebody who pays for them. If you're getting them for "free", meaning somebody else is paying for them, then that somebody is trying to sell you something.

3. Polls can be descriptive or normative, but not both. The cost for using them to influence behavior is that the results no longer work as objective descriptions. Political staffs tend to forget this and take their push polls' results seriously. It results in nasty surprises.

4. Polls are transient. They are a snapshot of answers given at a specific time and the longer it takes to gather and analyze the results, the bigger the error bars.

5. Online polls are worthless.

6. Polls about sexual behavior are worthless. Polls of teenagers concerning sexual behavior are hilariously worthless.

7. Polls whose answers may get the respondents in trouble with the law are worthless.

8. There is no such thing as anonymity.

9. Never confuse polls and data analytics. (Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign made that mistake). Past behavior is only an indirect predictor of future performance.

10. The best, most up-to-date, most accurate (and most expensive) political polls are not shared with the public because campaign staffs are planning tactics on their basis. These are termed internal polls. If you see them and you're not a campaign wonk, they're bogus.

I do not intend this to disparage polling at all - it's simply that like most things in politics it isn't quite what it appears to be. All IMHO, of course.

29 posted on 04/29/2024 10:53:37 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Tell It Right
I respectfully disagree.

You actually didn't disagree with my points. Gas prices are post-election events, and will not show up during the elections nor during poll-taking.

Cheating will happen, and won't be reflected in polls. Cheating will be reflected after the election, but then, nobody dares to face that fact or to do anything about it, and many will go into denial about what they suspect is full-blown cheating and theft.
30 posted on 04/29/2024 11:02:19 AM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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To: one guy in new jersey

No. But it will be time for CW2


31 posted on 04/29/2024 11:55:18 AM PDT by TheConservator (To bar Trump from the presidency, libtards are happy to trash 235 years the rule of law)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, but can’t we un-skew the polls?


32 posted on 04/29/2024 4:59:31 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: Billthedrill
Never confuse polls and data analytics.

So true. What do you think of Nate Silver, since he does the latter?

33 posted on 04/29/2024 5:07:30 PM PDT by nwrep
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