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How Scientists Discovered the Staggering Complexity of Human Evolution
Scientific America ^ | September 2018 | Kate Wong

Posted on 05/06/2024 8:22:32 PM PDT by kawhill

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To: Jamestown1630
Believing in a Creator God doesn’t preclude belief in evolution.

You are free to believe anything you want. That is a quality of how you were created.

Believing in "evolution" does not mean that you are lost. Not believing in the finished work of Jesus Christ does.

So then it comes down to this: Where do you draw the line between what God says here versus what God says there?

61 posted on 05/07/2024 5:38:39 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good. )
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To: kinsman redeemer
The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent, because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed; and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead.”
Acts 17:30-31
62 posted on 05/07/2024 5:40:57 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good. )
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To: Right Brother
When ‘scientists’ establish the time line between what they call our nearest ‘ancestors’ and the homo sapiens we have become, I have to laugh

Coming up with homo sapiens in that period of time would be like throwing all the orchestra instruments off the Empire State building and having it sound like the Beethoven 5th Symphony, when it hits the ground.

63 posted on 05/07/2024 5:44:20 AM PDT by SMARTY ("A lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies." Tennyson)
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To: cuz1961

If the eye came about through natural selection, why don’t trees have eyes?


64 posted on 05/07/2024 6:39:03 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Freud: projection is a defense mechanism of those struggling with inferiority)
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To: kawhill

Human evolution relies on susceptibility to digestively-introduced viruses to accelerate evolution. Our closest relatives changed very little in the 3 million years since we diverged. Thank agriculture and the agricultural communities which it created.


65 posted on 05/07/2024 6:45:13 AM PDT by nagant
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To: bert

Yes! But what is time?


66 posted on 05/07/2024 8:29:51 AM PDT by KierkegaardMAN (I never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.)
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To: Jamestown1630

The theory, as proposed by Darwin is untenable, even for the objective agnostic, much less the God fearing Christian. Do you have a non Darwinian theory of evolution on which you hang your believer’s hat?


67 posted on 05/07/2024 8:35:50 AM PDT by KierkegaardMAN (I never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.)
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To: KierkegaardMAN

Did time precede God and matter?


68 posted on 05/07/2024 8:42:42 AM PDT by KierkegaardMAN (I never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.)
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To: glennaro

I guess I can understand how someone who never believed can come to belief through an intellectual process; but it isn’t something to which I can really relate.

Belief in a Creator God/First Cause has just always been with me.


69 posted on 05/07/2024 8:58:22 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: KierkegaardMAN

I don’t believe Darwin was some kind of infallible scientific ‘god’. Even he sensed that his own theory was incomplete. But I think he sensed something going on and attempted to put that sense into a theory.

Unless one takes Darwin’s evolution as absolute truth just as it stands, I don’t find it incompatible with belief in God.


70 posted on 05/07/2024 9:05:37 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: kinsman redeemer

I don’t really know what God might say; all I have of His ‘saying’ is ‘through a glass darkly’ - filtered through the minds of the human beings who wrote it all down.

(I’m not concerned about being ‘lost’, in this conversation. I’m discussing God and the idea of evolution.)


71 posted on 05/07/2024 9:13:10 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: kawhill
<'>Does a lion or horned toad have that? Free will?

What does that have to do with evolution being built into Creation? It seems to me that all things are here to play their own part, and designed to do so. The fact that 'all things' don't have free will is irrelevant to the idea that God included evolutionary processes in Creation.
72 posted on 05/07/2024 9:19:02 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Adder

Has anyone ever come up with a real explanation of ‘instinct’?

I’ve seen definitions of what instinct Is and Does - they’re largely descriptive; but none that satisfactorily explains HOW.


73 posted on 05/07/2024 9:23:18 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Olog-hai

I don’t believe that God thinks like humans do, though a lot of our religions seem to assume so.

And I don’t see where a theory of evolution ‘disproves’ the existence of a Supreme Intelligent First Cause. That is just something that materialistic scientists have assumed and tried to force into Truth.


74 posted on 05/07/2024 9:38:12 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: ifinnegan

Ants or Man?


75 posted on 05/07/2024 9:39:16 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

Ants.

The answer is yes.

They’re super-duper complex, too.


76 posted on 05/07/2024 9:41:52 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: kawhill

Hmmm
>the Creator gave the human species dominion over everything here.
And also gave him free will.<

I read this as..

The Creator of HUMAN species dominion OVER EVERYTHING here.
and also gave HIM free will.


77 posted on 05/07/2024 9:46:17 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Bye done!)
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To: ifinnegan

What fascinates me most is how they communicate. I’ve seen that in action.

Bees communicate, too. Just *thinking* about all this is ‘staggering’.

But I’m not sure any of it measures up to the mystery of the human mind.


78 posted on 05/07/2024 9:46:34 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

“ But I’m not sure any of it measures up to the mystery of the human mind.”

Both are “staggering.”

I’m addressing the poor quality of current writing in Scientific American.

It was not a staggering article.


79 posted on 05/07/2024 9:50:52 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

I guess it’s not important. One would have to believe in human evolution in the first place, to find it ‘staggeringly complex’ or otherwise.


80 posted on 05/07/2024 9:54:55 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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