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WASHINGTON, June 24, 2009 – Predicting an uptick in violence in Iraq as U.S. combat troops leave the cities by June 30, Pentagon Press Secretary Geoff Morrell said today that deployed troops have geared up for the heightened threat as they comply with the U.S.-Iraq status of forces agreement. “I think we have reason to believe -- and I think our forces have been alerted to the possibility -- that we will likely see an uptick in violence leading up to the June 30 deadline for U.S. combat forces to leave Iraqi cities and towns,” Morrell told Pentagon reporters. He...

Specialist Robert Terrio and his wife, Kary, thought they had avoided a dangerous deployment a few months ago when he learned that his Missouri National Guard unit would do a tour in Kosovo instead of Iraq or Afghanistan. "There's a certain amount of relief that we weren't being deployed to an active war zone,'' Robert Terrio said. Then, last month, Kosovo declared independence from Serbia, a move Serbia refused to recognize. Suddenly, Kosovo started to look a little more dicey. Demonstrators torched the U.S. Embassy in the Serbian capital of Belgrade, mobs attacked several United Nations border posts, and gun...

The BBC was accused last night of risking the safety of British forces in Iraq after trawling for information on troop movements in the war-torn country. Politicians reacted in disbelief to the revelation that for over two hours yesterday, the BBC News website carried a request for people in Iraq to report on troop movements. The request was removed from the website after it sparked furious protests that the corporation was endangering the lives of British servicemen and women. But according to accounts last night, a story on a major operation by US and Iraqi troops against al-Qa'eda somewhere north...

Paratroopers from the 82nd Airborne Division will deploy to Iraq to provide security for the January elections, a source close to the Pentagon said Tuesday. The order is expected to involve ''at least a four-battalion-size force with all its 'slice' elements," including artillery and support. The unit will deploy before the holidays, the source said. Department of Defense officials consider it risky to wait to deploy additional forces after the holidays, and waiting could jeopardize election security, the source said. No departure date was given. ''Understand, the gloves are to come off," the source said. The 82nd was still waiting...

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The Black Watch battalion has begun moving from Basra to take over an area near Baghdad in a move that could set the stage for a U.S. attack on rebel-held Falluja. "We can confirm that Black Watch is moving north. For security reasons we cannot give numbers," Squadron Leader Steve Dharamraj told Reuters on Wednesday from Basra, the southern city where British troops have been based since last year's Iraq war. A column with Warrior armoured vehicles on flatbeds trucks headed north, a Reuters photographer said. The Warriors were fitted with extra slat armour to deflect rocket-propelled...

KABUL: At least 4500 US troops have been shifted from Iraq to Afghanistan as Afghanistan elections are nearing, sources learnt. So far, some 800 American troops, who were offering their services in war-torn Iraq, have landed in Afghanistan4500 American troops will join already present 18500 US troops in Afghanistan. According to Geo TV, the impression was being given that transfer of the US troops from Iraq to Afghanistan was aiming at strengthening security during the election days in Afghanistan.

   BRUCE KELLMAN | THE NEWS TRIBUNE Some blank-faced, some smiling, soldiers with the 2nd Squadron, 14th Cavalry Regiment leave McChord Air Force Base on Thursday for Kuwait. The 400 or so men and women will eventually see combat in Iraq. They replace soldiers from the 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, who start returning next week. Goodbye, ordinary world ANGIE LEVENTIS; The News Tribune Lt. Daniel Burkhart spent the last few days before his deployment to Iraq with his parents who flew in from Massachusetts to say goodbye. His mother, Sandra Burkhart, didn't break down until it was time...

/begin my translationRumsfeld, "God damn it! Get them out!" U.S. Defense Secretary Rumsfeld Upon watching a bleeding American soldier from TV last year, Professor Moon Jung-in revealed the behind-story of sped-up U.S. pullout Cho Hyung-rae date: 08/27/2004 18:40 26' Moon Jung-in(professor of Yonsei Univ), the Chairman of Presidential Advisory Committee for N.E. Asian Age, told today (Aug. 27), "The scaling-back of U.S. troops in S. Korea is basically the result of changing U.S. global strategy since 9/11 terrorist attacks. However, 'small' mistakes(such as anti-American protests) sped up the process." Chairman Moon said at the monthly breakfast meeting sponsored by International...

US redeployment seen as targeting China Reports of US troop reductions in Asia do not ease Beijing's concern that Washington is focusing on the region By Ching Cheong HONG KONG - Despite media reports about the United States reducing the number of its troops in Asia, Beijing remains convinced that America is shifting its strategic focus from Europe to this region. This is how it interprets the major troop redeployment plan announced by President George W. Bush last week, the biggest force realignment since the end of the Korean War half a century ago. It is reinforced by a fact-sheet...

SPANGDAHLEM - The US Air Force is deploying 1,000 forces to Iraq from Spangdahlem air base in Germany, a base official said Thursday. The forces are elements of the 52nd Fighter Wing, said Air Force Colonel Dave Goldfein. The troop re-assignment comes amid a realignment of US forces abroad that includes possible base reductions or closures in Germany. But Goldfein said the re-assignment should not be taken as a sign to indicate that Spangdahlem was being closed. "At the moment, however, it is impossible to say what the future holds and what sort of forces will be stationed here," he...

The Cold War has been over for more than a decade, but you wouldn't know it from the way U.S. military forces are deployed around the world. That's why President Bush's announcement last week about redeploying American troops is such good news. It is no secret that the U.S. military is stretched thin to meet the demands arising in the wake of 9/11. The redeployment plan will take some of the pressure off while making U.S. forces more flexible, responsive, and better able to contend with the "tyranny of distance." The current overseas base structure is the result of...

TOKYO -- Japanese Kyodo news agency, quoting U.S. and Japanese sources, said Tuesday that as part of its relocation plan for U.S. troops based overseas, the U.S. would send 1,000 marines from the 3rd Marine Division stationed in Okinawa, Japan, to a drill camp located in southern Korea for regular training before 2008. The U.S. will also relocate its 1,190 marines of the same division to Southeast Asian countries like the Philippines on a long-term basis. Through these relocations, about 2,190 U.S marines located in Okinawa will be reduced by 2008. The sources said that the relocations are the first...

JACKSON HOLE, WY – Vice President Cheney today issued the following statement: "Just over two weeks ago, Senator Kerry talked about the merits of troop realignment in Europe and Asia. 'There are great possibilities open to us,' he said. Yesterday he said it was a bad idea. The one consistency we have seen from Senator Kerry is that he is willing to take any position on any issue if he thinks it will benefit him politically. As we saw yesterday, these political calculations even include his positions on our national security."

CHENEY ON KERRY TROOP WAFFLE [KJL] JACKSON HOLE, WY – Vice President Cheney today issued the following statement: "Just over two weeks ago, Senator Kerry talked about the merits of troop realignment in Europe and Asia. 'There are great possibilities open to us,' he said. Yesterday he said it was a bad idea. The one consistency we have seen from Senator Kerry is that he is willing to take any position on any issue if he thinks it will benefit him politically. As we saw yesterday, these political calculations even include his positions on our national security." Posted at 12:02...

THE PROBLEM with being an opportunist is that you can easily forget what you've recently said. On Monday, during a speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars, President Bush announced that he intends to modify the configuration of American forces in both South Korea and Europe. On Wednesday, Sen. Kerry, speaking before the same audience, sharply criticized the president's decision. Appearing on ABC's This Week on August 1, however, Sen. Kerry responded to a question by host George Stephanopoulos on Iraq. Stephanopoulos asked Kerry whether, as president, he could "promise that American troops will be home by the end of...

MAJOR KERRY FLIP FLOP ON KOREA/GERMANY PULLOUT NOT NOTICED BY THE MEDIA - JOHN KERRY INTERVIEW 8/2/04 BY GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS [1]10:46:54 GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS (ABC NEWS) (OC) Can you promise that American troops will be home by the end of your first term? [1]10:46:57 SENATOR JOHN F. KERRY (DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE) I will have significant, enormous reduction in the level of troops. We will probably have a continued presence of some kind, certainly in the region. If the diplomacy that I believe can be put in place can work, I think we can significantly change the deployment of troops, not just...

Sen. John Kerry is blasting President Bush for his plan to withdraw 70,000 troops from South Korea and Germany. But less than three weeks ago the top Democrat said he thought such troop reductions were a good idea, specifically naming Europe and Korea. "I will have significant, enormous reduction in the level of troops," Kerry told ABC's "This Week" on Aug. 1. "I think we can significantly change the deployment of troops [in Iraq], not just there but elsewhere in the world. In the Korean peninsula perhaps, in Europe perhaps. There are great possibilities open to us. But this administration...

August 19, 2004 -- ON Monday, President Bush announced a plan to improve military readiness by withdrawing our troops from Cold War-era garrisons overseas. This should not be a partisan issue. But it's an election year . . . Every Democrat jockeying for an assistant-to-the-deputy-undersecretary janitorial position in a Kerry administration attacked the proposed basing changes as calamitous: We'll throw away our influence in Europe. NATO will buckle. South Korea will be defenseless. And virgins will be ravished around the world. In remarks on the subject yesterday, John Kerry lied to an audience of veterans. He knows the withdrawal plan...

THE COLD War in Europe is long over, and yet American troops remain deployed in an outdated Cold War configuration. President Bush on Monday announced plans, drawn up after considerable deliberation, to reshape the map of American military deployments. Predictably, the proposal was instantly and lamentably attacked by the President’s political opponents. Shifting the stations of tens of thousands of troops is serious business, with potentially immense ramifications for American security. It should not be treated as just another opportunity for political gamesmanship. President Bush’s redeployment plan emerges, as did the Bush Doctrine, from an effort to view the world...

John Kerry will on Wednesday set out his opposition to the Bush administration's plans to bring home 70,000 US troops from permanent overseas bases, leaving their future dependent on the outcome of the presidential election. Setting out one of the few clear strategic differences between himself and George W. Bush, Mr Kerry is expected to argue that the withdrawal of troops from Europe and Asia threatens to undercut alliances and weakens America's ability to project its power overseas. White House officials described the realignment as addressing an outdated distribution of US forces, a legacy of the cold war ill-suited to...

KITZINGEN, Germany - Hans Seitz has sold engraved pewter plates and cuckoo clocks to U.S. soldiers for years. Now he fears some of his best customers may be going if two U.S. divisions pull out of Germany. Seitz was one of many Germans — all the way up to Defense Minister Peter Struck — who expressed regret Tuesday at the prospect that the United States will withdraw a large share of its 70,000 troops from Germany under plans announced by President Bush. "It would be bad. We would certainly miss them," Seitz, 70, said of the soldiers of the 1st...

...The Pentagon said yesterday that two Army divisions would leave Germany; the withdrawal of 12,500 troops from South Korea has already been announced. More specifics are to come, and the redeployment will take place over the course of the next decade.... The effects of the restructuring will be felt in the U.S. Some 100,000 military families and civilian workers will be returning home. Since a high percentage of troops in the volunteer military are married, this change will make life easier for spouses and children. Troops will be more likely to be deployed abroad on temporary assignments while their families...

August 17, 2004 -- YESTERDAY, George W. Bush announced that the U.S. military would move some service personnel from bases in Europe and Asia to bases inside the United States. The total number of forces involved will range between 60,000 and 70,000. The change will take 10 years to complete. Surrogates and spokesmen for the Kerry campaign went ballistic. "Alarming," declared Richard Holbrooke, the foreign-policy guru who will almost certainly be secretary of State if Kerry is elected. Wesley Clark, who was supreme commander of NATO before his disastrous run for the Democratic presidential nomination earlier this year, thundered that...

Reprinted from NewsMax.com Monday, Aug. 16, 2004Oh, Now the Germans Like AmericaHooray! The U.S. is pulling troops out of ungrateful Saddam-loving Germany, and dollar-addicted Old Europeans are in moaning as their withdrawal symptoms begin. "Base closures would hit us very hard," fretted Ole Kruse, spokesman for the Bavarian city of Wuerzburg, home of the U.S. Army's 1st Infantry Division. Baumholder, a town in rural western Germany, will lose $150 million a year if the U.S. military training area leaves, Mayor Volkmar Pees complained today to the Associated Press. "We view this with great concern," Bamberg spokesman Steffen Schuetzewohl chimed in....

The big story out of the speech, of course, was the decision to begin a major (and very, very long overdue) restructuring of US forces; to bring home a large number of them so that we'd have a larger force available in the United States for swift deployment to emerging threats. The military historian Victor Davis Hanson pointed out to us a while ago that the main problem with large US forces permanently based in foreign lands is two-fold; it engenders an infantile dependency on the part of the foreign land while at the same time building up a reservoir...

BRING GIS HOME: W. By Deborah Orin August 17, 2004 -- WASHINGTON -- President Bush yesterday unveiled plans to bring home up to 70,000 troops from Europe and Asia, with the biggest chunk coming out of Germany. Democratic rival John Kerry's allies instantly opposed the idea. "The world has changed a great deal and our posture must change with it," Bush said as he revealed plans for a massive shift of troops that he said will make it easier to strike fast against terror � and easier on military families. "Our service members will have more time on the home...

SPIEGEL ONLINE - 17. August 2004, 9:14 URL: http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,313617,00.htmlUS-Troop Withdrawal Union Politico concerned about Europe's Security After the restructuring of the armed forces announced by George Bush, the USA's allies are having thoughts about the consequences. While the Japanese and Russians are pleased with the troop withdrawal, criticism is getting loud in Germany. The Union [CDU - opposition political party, longjack] fears a "danger for the security of Europe".. DDP US-Soldiers at US-Airbase Spangdahlem / Eifel Tokyo/Berlin - The reorganization of the U.S. armed forces is better suited to the global security situation, and contributes more to stability and peace, stated an explanation by...

American allies embrace U.S. military plan By MARI YAMAGUCHI The Associated Press 8/17/2004, 6:17 a.m. ET TOKYO (AP) — American allies Japan and Australia embraced a new U.S. plan to restructure its forces abroad, while Russia said it was not concerned by the proposal. But Germany, home to 70,000 U.S. soldiers, said any withdrawal from the former Cold War frontier may hurt its economy. The plan, announced Monday by President Bush, centers on U.S. forces based in Europe and was not expected to lead to major changes in American troops in Asia. The United States bases some 50,000 troops in...

The troop redeployment plan announced yesterday by President Bush makes little long-term strategic sense. It is certain to strain crucial alliances, increase overall costs and dangerously weaken deterrence on the Korean peninsula at the worst possible moment. Meanwhile, it will do nothing to address the military's most pressing current need: relieving the chronic strain on ground forces that has resulted from failing to anticipate the long, and largely unilateral, American occupation of Iraq. Mr. Bush provided few new details yesterday, confirming only that over the next 10 years, about 60,000 to 70,000 uniformed troops, along with some 100,000 family members...

Bush plan to bring home troops slammed by Monday 16 August 2004 8:28 PM GMT Wesley Clark says the timing seems potically motivated US Democrats blasted President George Bush's plan to bring home up to 70,000 troops from Europe and Asia, calling it dangerous, ill-conceived and a ploy to boost his bid for re-election. Bush's announcement quickly drew scathing criticism from former NATO commander Wesley Clark and ex-ambassador Richard Holbrooke, two senior advisers of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, on Monday. Clark said the 10-year plan, unveiled by Bush, a Republican, in a campaign speech to US veterans in Ohio,...

In Germany, U.S. troop withdrawal plans raise jitters in many towns 45 minutes ago TONY CZUCZKA BERLIN (AP) - German officials voiced concern Monday that their country has the most to lose with President George W. Bush (news - web sites)'s announcement that tens of thousands of troops will return to the United States over the next decade. With some 70,000 U.S. soldiers based in Germany, thousands of local jobs - from bakers to maintenance workers and office personnel - depend on the Americans, who first came as occupying forces after the Second World War. European and Asian countries with...

CINCINNATI (Reuters) - President Bush on Monday announced plans to bring home up to 70,000 troops from Europe and Asia within a decade in a major realignment that Democrats said was politically motivated in an election year. "The world has changed a great deal and our posture must change with it," Bush said of his plan for one of the biggest shifts of U.S. forces at many of 5,458 military facilities worldwide since the Cold War. Bush said his goal was to ease the burden on U.S. troops, but the plan offered no immediate relief to more than 140,000 American...

Bush announces major troop realignment [snip] Democrats criticized the move. In a statement released by the Democratic National Committee, retired Gen. Wesley Clark, a former presidential candidate and former NATO supreme commander, said the redeployment from Europe and Asia would "significantly undermine U.S. national security." "This ill-conceived move and its timing seem politically motivated rather than designed to strengthen our national security," Clark said.[snip]

The President will speak at 11:10 am EST about the moving of 70,000 military people. I don't know if CNN or MSNBC are covering this but Fox said it will. Tune in!

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush's plan to call tens of thousands of U.S. troops home from Europe and Asia could gain him election-year applause from military families, but won't ease the strain on soldiers still battling violent factions in Iraq and Afghanistan. In a speech Monday at the Veterans of Foreign Wars convention in Cincinnati, Bush will announce one of the largest troop realignments since the end of the Cold War.Senior administration officials say Bush's plan affects 70,000 or more uniformed military personnel plus 100,000 of their family members and support personnel. A significant portion would be sent to bases...

Germany will be hit harder than any other country by US President George W. Bush's announcement on Monday that the Pentagon will withdraw 70,000 troops from overseas and return them to US bases, US officials said at the weekend. About 45,000 of the reduction will come in Europe, a majority being culled from the 75,000 US servicemen based in facilities across Germany. The US has been in talks with German officials about its plans for more than a year. It will be the biggest restructuring of US forces overseas since the end of the cold war. The plans include a...

Associated Press WASHINGTON - Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld briefed his Russian counterpart over the weekend on U.S. plans to shift its forces stationed around the globe, in some cases potentially bringing them closer to Russia's borders. Rumsfeld and Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov met over a two-day period in St. Petersburg on a variety of security issues, including U.S. plans to reorient its forces away from its Cold War alignment and toward one aimed at fighting Islamic terrorist groups. President Bush is expected to discuss his plans for the military on Monday at a speech in Cincinnati. Rumsfeld said in the...

WASHINGTON - President Bush is to announce on Monday that the United States will withdraw up to 70,000 troops from Europe and Asia in the most significant rearrangement of the American military since the end of the Cold War, an administration official said Saturday.   Bush will also announce in a speech on Monday that the withdrawal will affect an additional 100,000 military support staff and family members, who will leave the regions as well.    Bush's plan, first reported by the Financial Times of London, comes at a time when the Army is stretched thin by large deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan,...

SIOUX CITY, Iowa — President Bush has decided to bring home tens of thousands of U.S. troops from posts around the world — most of them in Europe and Asia — plus 100,000 of their family members and support personnel, U.S. officials said Saturday. The changes will have no effect on forces in Iraq or Afghanistan. Bush will announce the move Monday in a speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars convention in Cincinnati, two senior administration officials said. As part of the largest troop realignment in years, Bush will shift about 70,000 uniformed military personnel, most of them currently...

President Bush will announce Monday that he plans to pull 70,000 to 100,000 troops out of Europe and Asia in the first major reconfiguration of overseas military deployments by the United States since the Cold War ended, White House officials said yesterday. Bush, who will reveal his plan in a speech to the annual convention of the 2.6 million-member Veterans of Foreign Wars in Cincinnati, plans to say that the change is necessary to adapt the nation's military to the demands of the global war on terrorism and to take advantage of new technologies, said a senior aide involved in...

Bush brings back 170,000 troops By David Rennie in Washington (Filed: 14/08/2004) President George W Bush will next week announce the withdrawal of 170,000 US troops and military dependents from Europe and Asia, senior administration officials said last night. The historic pull-back to American shores marks the end of a six-decade strategic adventure for US forces, begun in World War Two and extending through the tense years of the Cold War. A senior official told The Daily Telegraph that the historic shift will see 70,000 troops withdraw from Germany, South Korea and other decades-old allies. They would be accompanied by...

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States plans to withdraw about 70,000 U.S. troops from Europe and Asia in a major restructuring of military forces prompted by the end of the Cold War and the beginning of the war on terrorism, U.S. officials said Saturday. President Bush (news - web sites) will unveil the realignment in a speech Monday to the Veterans of Foreign Wars in Cincinnati, Ohio, said the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "The president is going to make an announcement about a major initiative to reduce the burden on our forces overseas," said one of the...

LONDON (AFP) Aug 14, 2004 The United States is expected to announce Monday that it is pulling 100,000 troops out of Europe and Asia, the Financial Times newspaper reported Saturday. It said the withdrawals -- the largest restructuring of Washington's military presence abroad since World War II -- would be announced in a speech by US President George W. Bush. Citing "people briefed on the plan" in a front-page story datelined London, the newspaper said two-thirds of the reductions would be in Europe, with 70,000 troops -- mostly from Germany -- being sent back to stateside bases. "In Asia, the...

Bush to announce US troop pullouts from Europe, Asia on Monday: report - LONDON Aug 14, 2004 The United States is expected to announce Monday that it is pulling 100,000 troops out of Europe and Asia, the Financial Times newspaper reported Saturday. It said the withdrawals -- the largest restructuring of Washington's military presence abroad since World War II -- would be announced in a speech by US President George W. Bush. Citing "people briefed on the plan" in a front-page story datelined London, the newspaper said two-thirds of the reductions would be in Europe, with 70,000 troops -- mostly...

The US is expected to announce on Monday that it is pulling 70,000 troops out of Europe and Asia in the largest restructuring of its global military presence since the second world war. People briefed on the plan say two-thirds of the reductions will come in Europe, most of them military personnel stationed in Germany who will be sent back to US bases. An additional 100,000 support staff and military families worldwide will be part of the realignment. The changes are expected to be announced by President George W. Bush at a speech to the Convention of Veterans of...

THE United States is expected to announce today that it is pulling 100,000 troops out of Europe and Asia, according to a British newspaper report. The Financial Times said the withdrawals - the largest restructuring of Washington's military presence abroad since World War II - would be announced in a speech by US President George W. Bush. Citing "people briefed on the plan" in a front-page story datelined London, the newspaper said two-thirds of the reductions would be in Europe, with 70,000 troops - mostly from Germany - being sent back to stateside bases. "In Asia, the drawdown is expected...

Military equipment staged at Pier 8, Pusan, Korea, awaits movement to Southwest Asia. Army moving equipment from Korea to Iraq By Maj. Terry DraperAugust 4, 2004 PUSAN, Korea (Army News Service, Aug. 4, 2004) -- The Army has begun moving equipment from the 2nd Infantry Division's 2nd Brigade in Korea for duty in Operation Iraqi Freedom. Two vessels were loaded simultaneously during the last week in July by transporters with the 837th Transportation Battalion, in Pusan, Korea. As part of the deployment, the 837th transporters also loaded 80 containers in Chinhae aboard a third ship. The loading was assisted...

The Washington Times www.washingtontimes.com Transfers 'ready to fight' in IraqBy Bill GertzTHE WASHINGTON TIMESPublished August 1, 2004 SEOUL -- The commander of U.S. soldiers leaving here for Iraq says they are "ready to fight" insurgents and terrorists despite their initial training for a far different mission in a far different place.     The 3,600 soldiers will leave bases in South Korea, within range of 12,000 North Korean artillery pieces a few miles north of the tense border, and head for the harsh heat and deadly roadside and suicide bombs in and around Baghdad.     His troops are "confident and very sober"...

SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea pressed its demand on Tuesday for the withdrawal of U.S. troops for South Korea in a rare letter to U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan. The message to Annan from North Korea's representative at the Korean War truce village called on the United Nations to dissolve the 50-year-old U.N. Command, under which 37,500 troops are based in South Korea to defend against North Korean attack. "It is our view that a war in Korea is almost unavoidable as long as the U.S. hostile policy toward the DPRK goes on," said the 1,100-word letter, which the official...

SEOUL, July 23 (Xinhuanet) -- South Korea and the United States agreed Friday in Washington to complete the planned relocation of the US military command out of Seoul by 2008, one year behind its previous schedule. The agreement was one the main point of a joint statement released at the end of a two-day military talks named Future of the Alliance (FOTA) began on Thursday. According to the 14-point statement, South Korea will provide 11.5 million square meters of land in Pyeongtaek, about 70 kilometers south of Seoul, to replace the Yongsan garrison. "This figure was reached taking into account...