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New details tonight about a secret Pentagon database used to monitor anti-war protests and activists. Recently-disclosed documents reveal that some of the surveillance targets include an organization with ties to the Central Coast. Secret Pentagon documents obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union provide details of how the organization called "Veterans for Peace" was considered a threat. Every Sunday for the past three years, members of the Santa Barbara Chapter of Veterans for Peace place a cross in the sand near Stearns Wharf for every American soldier killed in Iraq. First started in Santa Barbara, the "Arlington West" display has...

Vietnam veteran who teaches at the University of Delaware filed a lawsuit Monday in Philadelphia against the makers of an anti-John Kerry documentary about the Vietnam War, claiming the film suggests he and another veteran fabricated details of wartime atrocities. In the lawsuit, Kenneth J. Campbell, a UD associate professor of political science and director of the International Relations program there, said the footage of his 33-year-old conversation with a fellow Vietnam veteran about the massacre of a Vietnamese village by American soldiers was purposely taken out of context. "He got a clip from an old documentary I was in"...

New Witness: Kerry Was Present at Dark Plot MeetingGroup Debated and Voted Down Plan To Assassinate Senators By THOMAS H. LIPSCOMBOregon MagazineMarch 15, 2004 Another witness has come forward to attest that John Kerry was at a November 1971 meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War at which the group debated and voted down a plan to assassinate senators who supported the Vietnam War. A Kerry campaign spokesman, David Wade, has said Mr. Kerry did not attend the Kansas City meeting, and Kerry biographer Douglas Brinkley has said Mr. Kerry told him he was a "no show." "Kerry may have...

What the FBI files and history of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, (VVAW) reveal about, VVAW and John Kerry: 1. VVAW Plan to assassinate seven US senators. 2. VVAW was training to execute a Phoenix plan to decapitate the leaders of the US Government. 3. Member of VVAW arrested in-route to VP Agnew speech with an explosive device (BOMB). 4. VVAW running guns to a black militant group in Cairo IL. Use link 12 page 131, also same as link 10.. 5. VVAW funded by Communist party of America. 6. VVAW receiving funds from the Communist Party of a country...

Publication:The New York Sun; Date:Mar 12, 2004; Section:Front page; Page:1 HOW KERRY QUIT VETERANS GROUP AMID DARK PLOT When Talk Turned To Assassination He Exited, Vet Says By THOMAS H. LIPSCOMB Special to the Sun     The anti-war group that John Kerry was the principal spokesman for debated and voted on a plot to assassinate politicians who supported the Vietnam War.     Mr. Kerry denies being present at the November 12-15, 1971, meeting in Kansas City of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, and says he quit the group before the meeting. But according to the current head of Missouri Veterans for...

My name is Steve Pitkin, age 20, from Baltimore. I served with the 9th Division from May of '69 until I was airvaced in July of '69. I'll testify about the beating of civilians and enemy personnel, destruction of villages, indiscriminate use of artillery, the general racism and the attitude of the American GI toward the Vietnamese. I will also talk about some of the problems of the GIs toward one another and the hassle with officers. -- Steve Pitkin, Winter Soldier Investigation, February 1, 1971. ---------- Steve Pitkin never intended to speak at the Winter Soldier Investigation. He agreed...

In November 1971, Kerry was a national leader of VVAW (Vietnam Veterans Against the War) and as such attended a monthly meeting in Kansas City. At this meeting “Phoenix type” groups were discussed and “favorably received”. Kerry at first denied attending this meeting, but later had to admit that he was there. The following is a short transcript from a Declassified FBI document: FBI Document Page 191 November 1971 Meeting in Kansas City, Missouri (Kerry attended) November 12 party at one of the member’s house (transcript begins) At the party, SCOT CAMIL, VVAW Regional Coordinator for (blacked out) and (blacked...

MIDI - BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS It's mid November nineteen seventy one A major confrontation, friends, was said to have begun Some vets had done some planning...they were getting really sore They would move to the next level in attempts to stop the war The FBI had been watchin' 'em in action They're gettin' real scary...what's the next thing they would do? In Kansas City would the plot gain traction Would senators see pearly gates before the year was through? A young John F. Kerry had been telling great big lies U.S. troops pulled off mass murder, that should...

John Kerry mentions his service in Vietnam so frequently that it has become a running joke on the campaign press plane. He seldom if ever mentions his postwar activities as a national coordinator and principal spokesman for Vietnam Veterans Against the War, a group he says he quit in 1971 because he was concerned about its radical agenda. One reason may be that a credibility gap has started to widen over his antiwar history, and he clearly doesn't want to discuss it at length. His campaign is issuing misleading and evasive statements on his antiwar service in a way that...

When questions were raised last month about whether a 27-year-old John Kerry had attended a Kansas City meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War where the assassination of senators was discussed, the Kerry presidential campaign went into action. It accepted the resignation of a campaign volunteer in Florida, Scott Camil, the member of the antiwar group who raised the idea in November 1971 of killing politicians who backed the war. The campaign pressed other veterans who were in Kansas City, Mo., 33 years ago to re-examine their hazy memories while assuring them that Mr. Kerry was sure he had not...

<p>Senator John F. Kerry said through a spokesman this week that he has no recollection of attending a November 1971 meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War at which some activists discussed a plot to kill some US senators who backed the war.</p>

<p>John Kerry mentions his service in Vietnam so frequently that it has become a running joke on the campaign press plane. He seldom if ever mentions his postwar activities as a national coordinator and principal spokesman for Vietnam Veterans Against the War, a group he says he quit in 1971 because he was concerned about its radical agenda. One reason may be that a credibility gap has started to widen over his antiwar history, and he clearly doesn't want to discuss it at length. His campaign is issuing misleading and evasive statements on his antiwar service in a way that would do the Pentagon spinners of the Johnson and Nixon administrations proud.</p>

Why do the major dailies continue to spike the story of John Kerry's role in the Nov. 12-15, 1971, "assassination summit" in Kansas City at which Kerry participated in the secret discussion and vote by the executive board of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) on whether to murder seven U.S. senators and other leaders who continued to resist New Left demands that Vietnam be turned over to the Viet Cong? Tom Lipscomb, founding editor of (New York) Times Books, has nailed it all down in the New York Sun with an FBI surveillance report and six eyewitnesses, of...

<p>John Kerry mentions his service in Vietnam so frequently that it has become a running joke on the campaign press plane. He seldom if ever mentions his postwar activities as a national coordinator and principal spokesman for Vietnam Veterans Against the War, a group he says he quit in 1971 because he was concerned about its radical agenda. One reason may be that a credibility gap has started to widen over his antiwar history, and he clearly doesn't want to discuss it at length. His campaign is issuing misleading and evasive statements on his antiwar service in a way that would do the Pentagon spinners of the Johnson and Nixon administrations proud.</p>

John Kerry is on the campaign trail in Kansas City. In an incredible ironic twist, he used the word "assassination" in talking about what he charges to be character assassination by the White House against Richard Clarke. Clarke, much like Kerry, takes boths sides of every issue and expects people to actually take him seriously. Although the mainstream media has so far resisted reporting on the most important hidden story of the 2004 campaign, some of us are slowly but surely getting out the message. They will ultimately be shamed into doing the story, hopefully sooner rather than later. It...

Gainesville man stood trial as 1970s anti-war activist.GAINESVILLE -- ABC's "World News Tonight" hadn't finished before Gainesville resident Scott Camil's phone started ringing. Friends were calling to see if he had seen a Monday evening report about newly disclosed information that the FBI had kept tabs on Sen. John Kerry during his anti-war days in the early 1970s. The report included a passing reference to and a circa-1973 photo of Camil, who had met Kerry at national meetings of Vietnam Veterans Against the War. Citing Gerald Nicosia's 2001 book, "Home to War," the ABC report said that at a national...

Sometime during a national meeting of the Vietnam Veterans Against The War (VVAW) held November 12-14, 1971 there was an intense "discussion" and vote on a plan offered by Scott Camil to assassinate top Congressional leaders who had voted to continue funding the war in Vietnam. There has been much discussion here and some in the media of this topic. The details are getting confused, and few people have seen any of the original source material. I first came upon the subject in early February when I was looking for information about Kerry in "Winter Soldiers," by Richard Staciewicz. The...

ABC's "World News Tonight" hadn't finished Monday before Gainesville resident Scott Camil's phone started ringing. Friends were calling to see if he had seen a report about newly disclosed information that the FBI had kept tabs on Sen. John Kerry during his anti-war days in the early 1970s. The report included a passing reference to and a circa-1973 photo of Camil, who had met Kerry at national meetings of Vietnam Veterans Against the War. Citing Gerald Nicosia's 2001 book, "Home to War," the ABC report said that at a national meeting of the anti-war group, Camil had floated the idea...

<p>NEW YORK (CNN) -- John Kerry's combat experience in Vietnam is central to his bid to become the next commander-in-chief, but Kerry's outspoken opposition to that war drew the personal attention of the president of the United States and FBI agents 33 years ago, documents reviewed by CNN reveal.</p>

<p>NEW YORK (CNN) -- John Kerry's combat experience in Vietnam is central to his bid to become the next commander-in-chief, but Kerry's outspoken opposition to that war drew the personal attention of the president of the United States and FBI agents 33 years ago, documents reviewed by CNN reveal.</p>

In 1971, Scott Camil, a Vietnam Vet who was radicalized by Jane Fonda during the Winter Soldier Investigation, and a subsequent colleague of Senator John Kerry while the latter was the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, was the architect of a proposed VVAW conspiracy to assassinate seven sitting U.S. Senators. The assassination plot was debated at a VVAW conference in Kansas City, on November 12-15, 1971, and a number of eyewitness accounts, as well as FBI files obtained by Kerry biographer under the Freedom of Information Act, have placed Senator Kerry at the Kansas City VVAW conference, despite denials by...

<p>WASH TIMES 2/11 Rep. Sam Johnson, Texas Republican, who spent nearly seven years in a prisoner-of-war camp in Vietnam, said yesterday the photograph of Mr. Kerry with Miss Fonda will hurt him nevertheless. "I think it symbolizes how two-faced he is, talking about his war reputation, which is questionable on the one hand, and then coming out against our veterans who were fighting over there on the other," Mr. Johnson said. Mr. Johnson recalled that his North Vietnamese captors played recordings of Miss Fonda telling U.S. troops to give up the war. "Seeing this picture of Kerry with her at antiwar demonstrations in the United States just makes me want to throw up."</p>

A Vietnam veteran who plotted to kill members of Congress in 1971 is reportedly ready to accept a position working in the presidential campaign of John Kerry. Leaders of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, including John Kerry, debated a plot to assassinate congressmen in November 1971, according to a report in the New York Sun. The Kerry campaign denies the senator and presidential candidate was present at the meeting, saying he quit the organization prior to the heated session in Kansas City, Nov. 12-15, 1971. However, Randy Barnes of Missouri Veterans for Kerry, disputes that account. Barnes participated in...

Legendary former New York City homicide detective Beau Dietl said Saturday that he was "shocked" by reports that Sen. John Kerry participated in a 1971 Kansas City meeting of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War where a plot to assassinate seven U.S. Senators was considered. "I was shocked listening to the story," Dietl told WABC Radio's Monica Crowley, who had just broadcast an update by the reporter who broke the news last week, The New York Sun's Thomas Lipscomb. "I like John very, very much as a person," said Dietl, who's a personal friend of the Massachusetts Democrat. "But if...

John Forbes Kerry – Domestic Terrorist March 19, 2004 - by William A. Mayer We are not sure exactly what one has to do, in these days of moral ablation, to disqualify oneself from running for elective office. The Clinton years notwithstanding, there have always been parameters within which national candidates must comport themselves - certain minimum standards that even prospective politicians might reasonably meet. This year, however is very different. It’s quite clear that the Democrat Party is busted - a sprung watch - beyond repair. The nominative process that we find ourselves within, clearly demonstrates this. That...

Please note that the following is an excerpt from a book called Winter Soldiers--but it is NOT the book authored by John Kerry, which is called "The Winter Soldiers." This excerpt is taken from Chapter 4 "Left Face" pages 293-295. Also note that the "JK" quoted is not John Kerry, but John Kniffin. [Begin excerpt] Winter Soldiers - Richard Staciewicz JOHN KNIFFEN, TERRY DuBOSE, SHELDON RAMSDELL, LINDA ALBAND, BARRY ROMO In the fall of 1971, tensions over the direction in which the organization was heading, as it spread out into various community activities and took on a more consciously anti-imperialist...

KANSAS CITY - (KRT) - Confronted with 32-year-old FBI records, Sen. John Kerry's campaign all but conceded he attended a 1971 Kansas City meeting where a fellow anti-war veteran called for political assassinations. Those active in Vietnam Veterans Against the War at the time stress that the suggestion for such a violent approach was angrily rejected. They say their memories do not include Kerry taking part in the radical discussion. A statement Thursday by Kerry's camp said the Massachusetts Democrat did not recall the meeting, although FBI surveillance material and the group's archives clearly show that Kerry resigned from his...

Scott Camil, who is at the center of the controversy about the Vietnam Veterans Against The War's consideration of assassinating pro-war Senators in 1971, wrote the following book review: Our War--What We Did in Vietnam and What it Did to Us, by David Harris Scott Camil April 1997 [Excerpt] I found David Harris's book, Our War -- What We Did in Vietnam and What It Did to Us, (Times Books, 1996) to be relevant, easy to read and right on the money. David's descriptive style has a unique ability to capture the moment and bring the times to life... There...

ELECTION 2004Reported Kerry aide 1 of 'Gainesville 8'Anti-war activist acquitted of plotting violence at GOP convention Posted: March 19, 20041:00 a.m. Eastern © 2004 WorldNetDaily.com The man who Sen. John Kerry's campaign reportedly has offered a position – whose background includes plotting to kill members of Congress in 1971 – was one of the "Gainesville Eight," a group of Vietnam War protesters indicted and then acquitted of a plan to violently disrupt the 1972 Republican National Convention in Miami. As WorldNetDaily reported, Scott Camil, a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, presented to the group, including Kerry, a plot to assassinate...

Publication:The New York Sun; Date:Mar 15, 2004; Section:National; Page:4 New Witness: Kerry Was Present at Dark Plot Meeting Group Debated and Voted Down Plan To Assassinate Senators By THOMAS H. LIPSCOMB Special to the Sun     Another witness has come forward to attest that John Kerry was at a November 1971 meeting of Vietnam Veterans Against the War at which the group debated and voted down a plan to assassinate senators who supported the Vietnam War.     A Kerry campaign spokesman, David Wade, has said Mr. Kerry did not attend the Kansas City meeting, and Kerry biographer Douglas Brinkley has said...

Sunday, Mar. 14, 2004 10:49 PM EST Brinkley: Kerry Faces Questions about Senate Hit Plot What did Sen. John Kerry know and when did he know it about a plot to assassinate pro-Vietnam war U.S. Senators hatched at a November 1971 Kansas City meeting of the group Vietnam Veterans Against America? According to presidential biographer Douglas Brinkley, that's the question Sen. Kerry needs to answer. If it turns out that the likely Democratic presidential nominee knew of the treasonous plan, Brinkley says he had an obligation to go to the authorities. "The question is: did Kerry quit [VVAW] before Kansas...

The anti-war group that John Kerry was the principal spokesman for debated and voted on a plot to assassinate politicians who supported the Vietnam War. Mr. Kerry denies being present at the November 12-15, 1971, meeting in Kansas City of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, and says he quit the group before the meeting. But according to the current head of Missouri Veterans for Kerry, Randy Barnes, Mr. Kerry,who was then 27,was at the meeting, voted against the plot, and then orally resigned from the organization. Mr. Barnes was present as part of the Kansas City host chapter for the...

What did Sen. John Kerry know and when did he know it about a plot to assassinate pro-Vietnam war U.S. Senators hatched at a November 1971 Kansas City meeting of the group Vietnam Veterans Against America? According to presidential biographer Douglas Brinkley, that's the question Sen. Kerry needs to answer. If it turns out that the likely Democratic presidential nominee knew of the treasonous plan, Brinkley says he had an obligation to go to the authorities. "The question is: did Kerry quit [VVAW] before Kansas City or did he quit after Kansas City," Brinkley told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg. "If...

I was just watching FOX news and an author from the New York Sun, wrote an article about 3 veterans who remember John Kerry attending a V V A W meeting in which they would vote on 'assassinating top US 'war-hawk' politicians who want to continue the war. Kerry's entire campaign has denied him being there but these three individuals are saying otherwise. I am not subscribed to the paper (or online edition) But if this is true, Kerry would be facing some serious problems. I am looking for the FOX news transcipts, but those normally don't come out for...

ORIGINAL THREAD REGARDING APPEARANCE OF REPORTER TOM LIPSCOMB ON FOX NEWS Reporter Tom Lipscomb wrote a bombshell piece of investigative journalism a few days ago that appeared in the NY SUN --- LIPSCOMB STORY - How Kerry Quit Veterans Group Amid Dark Plot Lipscomb was supposed to be on FOX NEWS today but got bumbed because of the horrific terrorist bombing in Spain. He is rescheduled for Sunday at 2:48 pm Eastern. For those who haven't paid attention, Lipscomb wrote a story about a meeting in Kansas City on Nov. 12-15, 1971. At that meeting of Vietnam Vets Against...

Amazing. I just spoke with Tom Lipscomb who wrote the recent article in the NY SUN that discussed a Kansas City Meeting in Nov. 1971. At that meeting, Vietnam Veterans Against the War were discussing assassinating U.S. Senators. John Kerry has denied he was there. In a Kansas City Star piece yesterday, Randy Barnes, who has placed Kerry at that meeting must have gotten a phone call. He now is backtracking and isn't quite so sure Kerry was there. Barnes suggests that Kerry might have been at the St. Louis meeting earlier and he is confused. How about this? JOHN...

On at least one point the recollections align: A 1971 Kansas City meeting of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War was marred by talk — shouted down by a disgusted majority — of assassinating pro-war politicians. Members of the group that John Kerry propelled to the center of the anti-war movement and that helped launch his political career do not agree, however, whether the man now on course to the Democratic presidential nomination was around for the debate. At least one enthusiastic Kerry supporter said he remembered him attending at least the start of the group's national steering committee meeting...

THOMAS LIPSCOMB STORY Reporter Thomas Lipscomb wrote the story which is linked above in the NY SUN. It has the potential to end the Kerry presdential run. I had a great conversation with Lipscomb a short while ago. This story was too hot for some of the majors. But Lipscomb assured me it is well-sourced and is dead on. Two witnesses have placed John Kerry at a Kansas City meeting of the hierarchy of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War in November of 1971. At that meeting, they actually took a vote about assassinating United States senators. It was...

When Talk Turned To Assassination He Exited, Vet Says The anti-war group that John Kerry was the principal spokesman for debated and voted on a plot to assassinate politicians who supported the Vietnam War. Mr. Kerry denies being present at the November 12-15, 1971, meeting in Kansas City of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, and says he quit the group before the meeting. But according to the current head of Missouri Veterans for Kerry, Randy Barnes, Mr. Kerry,who was then 27,was at the meeting, voted against the plot, and then orally resigned from the organization. Mr. Barnes was present as...

As I posted on a thread a couple of weeks ago, Kerry's group the VVAW had discussing the assassination of pro-war US Senators. Kerry's Group The VVAW Discussed Assassinating Seven Pro-War Senators In December 1971 The following is an excerpt from a book, "Winter Soldiers," by Richard Staciewicz, pp 294-295:In the fall of 1971, tensions over the direction in which the organization was heading, as it spread out into various community activities and took on a more consciously anti-imperialist position, were becoming more evident. In November, an emergency meeting of the steering committee was held in Kansas City. This meeting...