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  • Presbyterian leaders in Pittsburgh reeling from latest exodus from denomination

    12/12/2012 10:31:59 PM PST · by Cronos · 44 replies
    Post Gazette ^ | 7 Dec 2012 | Ann Rodgers
    Members of Pittsburgh Presbytery expressed grief and frustration with three churches that recently voted to leave the Presbyterian Church (USA) without going through the constitutional process for doing so, while the church's national moderator, who coincidentally was at their regular meeting Thursday, said he had offered to meet with leaders of those churches and two others that are pursuing the formal process for leaving. Representatives from only one of the five, later identified as Bellefield Presbyterian Church in Oakland, agreed to meet with the Rev. Neal Presa. About 140 churches are in the countywide presbytery. Recently, Mt. Lebanon United Presbyterian...
  • Episcopal priests offer spiritual support for gay unions

    12/12/2012 10:27:36 PM PST · by Cronos · 18 replies
    Sun Sentinel ^ | 3 Dec 2012 | Lois K Solomon
    Gay couples who seek spiritual affirmation of their relationships can now sanctify their unions with special blessings at South Florida's Episcopal churches. Priests in the Episcopal Diocese of Southeast Florida have been given permission to perform a distinct rite, different from the marriage between a man and a woman. Called "The Witnessing and Blessing of a Lifelong Covenant," the ceremony, to be introduced this month, was approved by national convention delegates over the summer. Lorraine Michels and Joan Van Ness were married in 2009 in Massachusetts, but decided to participate in a nine-couple blessing ceremony in April at All Saints...
  • Episcopalian Exodus Over Gay Issues continues

    12/12/2012 10:18:02 PM PST · by Cronos · 19 replies
    Inquisitor ^ | 19.Nov.2012 | inq
    Divisions in the Episcopal Church on the subject of gay marriage have led yet another diocese to break from the national US Episcopal Church. Reuters reports Bishop Mark Lawrence of the Episcopal Diocese of South Carolina received a letter Oct. 15 from Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori saying he had “abandoned the church” and barring him from exercising his office. The local diocese however had previous stated that it would disassociate with the national church if it took exercised any hierarchical authority. It did, and the Episcopal Diocese of South Carolina became the fifth US diocese to break from its mother...
  • UK Government Says it Will Legalize Gay Marriage, but Bar Church of England from Involvement

    12/12/2012 8:42:08 AM PST · by marshmallow · 4 replies
    The Washington Post ^ | 12/11/12 | AP
    LONDON — The British government announced Tuesday that it will introduce a bill next year legalizing gay marriage — but banning the Church of England from conducting same-sex ceremonies. Equalities minister Maria Miller said the legislation would authorize same-sex civil marriages, as well as religious ceremonies if religions decide to “opt in. “I feel strongly that, if a couple wish to show their love and commitment to each other, the state should not stand in their way,” Miller said. “For me, extending marriage to same-sex couples will strengthen, not weaken, this vital institution.” Some religious groups, such as Quakers and...
  • Protestant-Catholic Gap Narrows as Census Results Revealed [Northern Ireland]

    12/12/2012 8:29:17 AM PST · by marshmallow · 3 replies
    The Belfast Telegraph ^ | 11/12/12 | David Young
    The gap between the proportion of Protestants and Catholics in Northern Ireland has narrowed, new census figures revealed today. The percentage of Catholics in the population was up to 45 while Protestant representation has fallen to 48% from the 2001 census. The figures were detailed in the 2011 census, the results of which were published by the Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency today. Almost half the population (48%) designated themselves as British when asked to select one or more of a number of identities, including Northern Irish or Irish. A total of 29% of the overall population included Northern...
  • Eleven Anglican Sisters to be Received into the Catholic Church [UK]

    12/12/2012 8:21:49 AM PST · by marshmallow · 3 replies
    The Catholic Herald (UK) ^ | 12/12/12 | Mark Greaves
    Eleven Anglican Sisters will be received into the Catholic Church via the ordinariate, it emerged this week. The Sisters, from the Community of St Mary the Virgin in Wantage, Oxfordshire, will be received into the Church by Mgr Keith Newton, leader of the ordinariate in England and Wales, on New Year’s Day. The group, which ranges in age from 45 to 83, includes the mother superior of the community and a Sister who was once a minister in the Church of England. Three are in their 80s. Next year they will stay for six weeks at a Benedictine convent. After...
  • Prayer Request For A Friend (Vanity)

    12/11/2012 4:34:22 AM PST · by poobear · 37 replies
    I humbly ask FReeper Prayer Warriors to Pray for my friend (K). He has had elevated PSA levels and is finally going in to find out if the dreaded 'C' is present tomorrow. K is way too young for this and is quite worried as he has 3 children who are dependent on him. I have been Praying for K daily but I could use some help guys. May G-d Bless all of you! Poobear...
  • The Stranger in the House

    12/09/2012 2:35:55 PM PST · by Alex Murphy · 11 replies
    WSJ ^ | November 16, 2012
    ....it is worth noting that some of the earliest records of the Christmas-tree tradition are to be found among the records of killjoy officialdom. As Bernd Brunner notes in "Inventing the Christmas Tree," the town clerk of Strasbourg, in 1494, put the kibosh on the local "custom of cutting off pine branches at the New Year and bringing them home." By the 16th century the custom was widespread enough to pose some threat of deforestation: In 1554, the city of Freiburg im Breisgau banned the cutting of trees for Christmas. [SNIP] The Tannenbaum (which simply means "fir tree") came to...
  • Senior home Christmas tree ban touches nerve about religious diversity, tolerance

    12/09/2012 2:35:53 PM PST · by Alex Murphy · 23 replies
    The Willits News ^ | 12/07/2012 | Mariecar Mendoza
    News of Newhall seniors protesting the removal of a Christmas tree from their community room this week because, they said they were told, it was a religious symbol prompted a national outcry -- a collective bah humbug from Christmas defenders. It was, many said, another example of the so-called "war on Christmas" and political correctness run amok. The issue isn't new, but the debate over appropriate public demonstrations of traditionally religious holidays has now spread beyond blatant symbols like the cross and Nativity scenes to the unassuming Christmas tree. Chalk it up to the melting pot, experts say. "The country...
  • Rejecting Synergism and Returning to Monergism

    12/09/2012 11:34:49 AM PST · by HarleyD · 28 replies
    Critical Issues Commentary ^ | Unknown | Bob DeWaay
    ”For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, that no one should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8, 9) A key idea in the contemporary evangelical movement is that revival can be engineered. The Purpose Driven Web site says, “Peter Drucker called him [Warren] ‘the inventor of perpetual revival’ and Forbes magazine has written, ‘If Warren’s church was a business it would be compared with Dell, Google or Starbucks.’”1 The Purpose Driven movement can cite this business management guru approvingly only because they have a...
  • Former Episcopal priest grateful to Pope for Catholic ordinariate

    12/08/2012 2:34:25 PM PST · by NYer · 73 replies
    cna ^ | December 8, 2012 | Kevin J. Jones
    Former Episcopal priest Larry Gipson. CNA file photo. Houston, Texas, Dec 8, 2012 / 01:33 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- Former Episcopal priest Laurence Gipson, who became Catholic in October, says his reaction to the Catholic ordinariate for former Anglicans is one of “gratitude.” “The ordinariate, I think, is a wonderful opportunity for people like me, Anglican clergy and Anglican laity, who are seeking Catholic faith,” he said. On Jan. 1, 2012, Pope Benedict XVI established the Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter to allow Anglican and Episcopalian groups in the U.S. to become Catholic as groups, not only as...
  • THE VIRGIN BIRTH: A MYSTERY TO BE CRIED ALOUD

    12/08/2012 7:18:22 AM PST · by HarleyD · 51 replies
    Reformed Perspectives ^ | 2002 | John Hartog III, TH.D.
    Reprinted by permission of Faith Baptist Theological Seminary's Faith Pulpit, December, 1999. The virgin birth refers to Mary's miraculous conception of Christ through the power of the Holy Spirit, without any male participation, so that, though the birth process was not unlike that of other humans, Mary was still a virgin when Jesus was born. This Biblical doctrine should be distinguished from the Roman Catholic tenets of Mary's immaculate conception and her perpetual virginity (Erickson, 179). The Dogma of the Immaculate Conception According to the dogma of the Immaculate Conception, Mary was "preserved free from all stain of original sin"...
  • Prime Minister David Cameron Backs Gay Weddings in Church [UK]

    12/07/2012 6:39:11 PM PST · by marshmallow · 9 replies
    The Evening Standard (UK) ^ | 12/7/12 | Joe Murphy
    David Cameron will risk a major battle with his party next week by backing gay weddings in churches, the Evening Standard can reveal. He will go further than ever in his modernising drive by saying religious groups should be allowed to host same-sex civil weddings in churches, synagogues and other religious buildings if they choose. Organisations that reject gay marriage, such as the Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church, will have legal protection from being forced to host ceremonies against their wishes, the Prime Minister will pledge. Tory MPs will have a free vote on a Bill next...
  • Presbyterian leaders in Pittsburgh reeling from latest exodus [Presbyterian Caucus]

    12/07/2012 9:10:09 AM PST · by Alex Murphy · 14 replies
    Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | December 7, 2012 | Ann Rodgers
    Members of Pittsburgh Presbytery expressed grief and frustration with three churches that recently voted to leave the Presbyterian Church (USA) without going through the constitutional process for doing so, while the church's national moderator, who coincidentally was at their regular meeting Thursday, said he had offered to meet with leaders of those churches and two others that are pursuing the formal process for leaving. [SNIP] Recently, Mt. Lebanon United Presbyterian Church, Round Hill Presbyterian Church in Elizabeth Township and the First Presbyterian Church of Bakerstown voted to secede without going through nine to 18 months of discussions with presbytery officials...
  • Canterbury Concedes Anglican Communion Has Become "Corrupted"

    12/06/2012 12:03:43 PM PST · by marshmallow · 12 replies
    Anglican Ink ^ | 12/5/12 | George Conger
    Push for an Anglican Covenant overtaken by the dissolution of the communionThe Archbishop of Canterbury has conceded defeat in the battle over the Anglican Covenant. In a 2 Dec 2012 Advent letter to the primates, Dr. Rowan Williams said the Anglican Communion had become “corrupted” and could no longer be considered a communion of churches but a “community of communities.” Dr. Williams’ somber appreciation of the state of the communion today, contrasts with his past letters to the leaders of the Communions 38 provinces. Nothing now bound the church together apart from good will. In 2009 Dr. Williams rejected calls...
  • US Ordinariate Receives $5 million Land Donation for Chancery

    12/05/2012 7:00:08 AM PST · by marshmallow
    EWTN News ^ | 12/4/12
    An anonymous donor has purchased five acres of land adjacent to the flagship church of the U.S. Anglican Ordinariate and donated it for building a chancery. “This will be the future home of the chancery of the Ordinariate as well as serve future expansion needs of this wonderful, growing parish. It is an incredible blessing, and I know you all will want to say with me: To God be the glory,” Monsignor Jeffrey N. Steenson, the ordinary of the structure, said on Dec. 2 during a Mass at the parish. The property, which cost the donors $5 million, will allow...
  • Presbyterians and the fiscal cliff: potential impact on your church's bottom line [Reformed Caucus]

    12/04/2012 12:04:45 PM PST · by Alex Murphy · 4 replies
    The Layman Online ^ | 12/3/2012 | Carmen Fowler LaBerge
    * Disclaimer: The following should not be considered legal, financial or tax advice. Every individual situation is unique and you are encouraged to consult with your tax and financial advisor before year end. There's a lot of hype, confusion and speculation related to the so-called "fiscal cliff" America is facing as the calendar rolls over from 2012 to 2013. At the Presbyterian Lay Committee, we're getting questions from donors and churches alike about what they might anticipate in terms of the impact on charitable giving. The answer all depends on what happens between now and the end of the year...
  • Book of lamentations: An intimate look at Anglicanism

    12/04/2012 2:32:38 AM PST · by Cronos · 1 replies
    The Economist ^ | Nov 2012 | Economist
    TO ENGLISHMEN of Roger Scruton’s generation (he is 68), religion was “as unmentionable as sex or love or hygiene”. The clumsy soul who stops by a country church in Philip Larkin’s 1955 poem, “Church Going”, speaks of an “awkward reverence”. This seems to be what Anglicanism means for many: God, as depicted in church services, is an Englishman, “uncomfortable in the presence of enthusiasm, reluctant to make a fuss, but trapped into making public speeches”, .. Mr Scruton’s work has a spurtive, poetic quality to it. Justifications of Anglican doctrine lie beside the author’s thoughts on his village church. Literary...
  • American Catholics less devoted, study suggested

    12/03/2012 7:22:06 AM PST · by Alex Murphy · 9 replies
    The Christian Post ^ | December 3, 2012 | Anugrah Kumar
    A new study has found that Catholics now have the lowest proportion of "strongly affiliated" followers among America's major religious traditions, while evangelicals are growing stronger in their devotion to their faith. Philip Schwadel, a sociologist at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, whose findings rely on a survey conducted among a cross-section of Americans on an annual or bi-annual basis since 1974, notes that from about a 5-percentage-point difference in the 1970s in how strongly Catholics and evangelicals felt about their religion, it has increased to around 20 percentage points today. Roughly 56 per cent of evangelicals now say they're strongly...
  • A Shameful Caricature, and a Warning

    12/02/2012 11:34:36 AM PST · by ReformationFan · 4 replies
    Virtue Online ^ | 11-29-12 | Canon Phil Ashley
    In the wake of the narrow defeat of the women bishops measure in the Church of England's General Synod by six votes in the House of Laity, a torrent of criticism has been unleashed on evangelical and Anglo-Catholic Anglicans who opposed the measure. From the Archbishop of Canterbury, members of Parliament, and down through the ranks, the consciences and reasons of those who voted against the measure have been belittled and even vilified. This vilification is most obvious in the editorial in The Guardian (London) from Friday, Nov. 23 by Canon Giles Fraser. Until recently, Canon Fraser held a senior...
  • Former rector of nation’s largest Episcopal church becomes a Catholic

    12/01/2012 1:48:30 PM PST · by NYer · 22 replies
    Washington Post ^ | December 1, 2012
    BIRMINGHAM, Ala. — The former rector of the nation’s largest Episcopal church has become a Roman Catholic.The Rev. Larry Gipson was dean of the Cathedral Church of the Advent in Birmingham from 1982-94 and rector at St. Martin’s Episcopal Church in Houston, where his parishioners included former President George H.W. Bush and his wife, Barbara, from 1994-2008.Last month, Gipson was accepted as a Catholic into the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter, a structure set up by Pope Benedict XVI to accept former Anglicans into the Catholic Church. “The nature of authority in the Catholic Church is what...
  • Former Dean of Advent Cathedral, Ex-Rector of Largest Episcopal Church Jumps to Catholic Church

    11/30/2012 4:34:51 PM PST · by marshmallow · 12 replies
    Alabama.com ^ | 11/29/12 | Greg Garrison
    The Rev. Larry Gipson, who was dean of the Cathedral Church of the Advent in Birmingham from 1982-94 and rector at the largest Episcopal church in the nation from 1994-2008, has become a Roman Catholic. Gipson retired in 2008 from the 8,000-member St. Martin's Episcopal Church in Houston, where his parishioners included former President George H.W. Bush and his wife, Barbara. Last month, Gipson was accepted as a Catholic into the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter, a structure set up by Pope Benedict XVI to accept former Anglicans into the Catholic Church. "The nature of authority in...
  • Ordinariate Lessons and Carols Around the Country

    11/29/2012 9:00:25 AM PST · by marshmallow · 1 replies
    The New Liturigical Movement ^ | 11/26/12 | Matthew Alderman
    Of the elements of the Anglican Patrimony the Ordinariate brings with it, one of the most enjoyable is the seasonal pleasure of a Lessons and Carols service. The first of these was held in a temporary shed serving as Truro's Anglican cathedral on Christmas Eve, 1880, by future archbishop of Canterbury Edward White Benson--purportedly to give his flock something better to do than spend the night before Christmas in local bars and pubs. It has since been a tradition adopted by Catholic as well as Anglican parishes, as well as Lutheran and even Presbyterian communities. King's College, Cambridge, has been...
  • Goal of Corporate Reunion no Longer Realistically Exists [C of E & Catholic]

    11/28/2012 8:00:52 PM PST · by marshmallow · 4 replies
    The Hermeneutic of Continuity ^ | 11/28/12 | Fr. Tim Finnigan
    How would the ordination of women as Bishops affect the relationship between the Catholic Church and the Church of England? More specifically, how would it affect dialogue? At the end of an article about Professor Henry Chadwick's thoughts on the matter, Independent Catholic News reports on the position taken by Archbishop Nichols: Meanwhile, the Most Reverend Vincent Nichols, Archbishop of Westminster, President of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of England and Wales, was asked during a press conference in London on Friday 16 November 2012 about the impact on ecumenical relations if the General Synod of Church of England General votes...
  • Archbishops' Council Says Restart Process to Admit Women to Episcopate at July 2013 General Synod

    11/28/2012 7:50:35 PM PST · by marshmallow · 2 replies
    The Archbishops’ Council issued this statement today.Statement on the Conclusion of the Meeting of the Archbishops’ Council November 201228 November 2012“The Archbishops’ Council of the Church of England met on November 27-28th to consider a wide ranging agenda. A substantial amount of time was given over to the discussion of the recent vote by General Synod on Women in the Episcopate. “As part of their reflections, many council members commented on the deep degree of sadness and shock that they had felt as a result of the vote and also of the need to affirm all women serving the church...
  • 1,000 flying saucers invade Grand Haven [the invasion that has been lost to time: June 17, 1950]

    11/28/2012 7:15:11 AM PST · by Alex Murphy · 8 replies
    Grand Haven Tribune ^ | Nov 26, 2012 | Kevin Collier
    Between 4 and 5 p.m. that day, 1,000 “flying saucers” dropped out of the sky and onto the city. But it was no Roswell. No aliens were sighted, and the only wreckage recovered throughout the city was made from paper. The stunt was performed by First Reformed Church as a promotion for their vacation Bible school. The “saucers” were paper plates dropped from an airplane that took off from Grand Haven Airport, commanded by the Rev. Bernard Brunsting, a veteran wartime B-17 bomber pilot. The co-pilot was Kenneth Lestma, assistant pastor of the church. He flew with a rescue squadron...
  • White Horse Prophecy [Mitt's Loss brings obvious conclusion that Mormon leaders falsely prophesied]

    11/10/2012 7:59:09 AM PST · by Colofornian · 954 replies
    MessagetoEagle.com ^ | Nov. 8, 2012 | Dustin Naef
    MessageToEagle.com - Normally, as a matter of personal preference I don’t get into politics, but when we have a presidential campaign that begins to cross over into the strange twilight zone of religious weirdness that centers on the one person who’s going to control the most powerful government and army on the face of the earth, well, it brings up some unusual scenarios to wonder about. It is being reported in the media today that former presidential candidate Mitt Romney only wrote a victory speech for Election Day; presumably a harried, last minute scramble to revise his speech was being...
  • The Spirit World, Our Next Home

    10/25/2010 4:50:55 AM PDT · by Colofornian · 319 replies · 2+ views
    Liahona Magazine ^ | December, 1977 | Dale C. Mouritsen
    As I’ve listened to and participated in conversations on “after death, what?” with students and family in various areas in the Church, I’ve nearly always found people expressed two feelings: a great desire to know about the post-earthly spirit world (hereafter referred to as the spirit world), and an apologetic feeling for having questions, feeling as though the spirit world were a subject that we should not discuss.My feeling is that caution in discussing a sacred subject is always proper, especially when much popular “information” in contemporary society about the spirit world involves sensational ghost stories, devil worship, and other...
  • Eternal progression after death is fun speculation for Mormons

    11/15/2012 4:33:43 PM PST · by Colofornian · 153 replies
    Ogden Standard-Examiner ^ | Oct. 15, 2012 | Doug Gibson
    (To see Cal Grondahl’s cartoon that goes with this post, click here) A key difference between Latter-day Saints and many other Christian churches is that Mormons believe that there are various post-judgment kingdoms in the outskirts of heaven. There’s the Telestial Kingdom, for anyone from Hitler to that lawyer who’s cheating on his wife. There’s the Terrestrial Kingdom, for those decent folks who said “not now” when the missionaries came by the door. And then there’s the Celestial Kingdom, the jackpot prize. But even the Celestial Kingdom comes in degrees. According to Joseph Smith, there are three degrees of glory...
  • THE IMPOSSIBLE GOSPEL OF MORMONISM: PLAN OF SALVATION

    11/27/2012 4:05:51 PM PST · by greyfoxx39 · 263 replies
    Mormon Infographics ^ | November 27, 2012
  • Nigerian cardinal condemns bombing of Protestant church

    11/27/2012 1:43:56 PM PST · by NYer · 2 replies
    cna ^ | November 26, 2012
    Cardinal John Onaiyekan walks through Vatican City after being made a cardinal by Pope Benedict XVI Nov. 24. Credit: Lewis Ashton Glancy - CNA. Rome, Italy, Nov 26, 2012 / 06:03 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- The newest cardinal from Nigeria has condemned a deadly terrorist attack on a Protestant church at a local military base, lamenting the lack of security in the country. “Once again, a great tragedy has taken place but in this case the circumstances are particularly worrisome,” Cardinal John Onaiyekan of Abuja told Aid to the Church in Need in Rome Nov. 26. “This attack took place...
  • Half of Women Bishops Opponents in Synod Were Women

    11/26/2012 7:10:54 PM PST · by marshmallow · 7 replies
    The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 12/26/12 | John Bingham
    Half of women bishops opponents in Synod were women Almost half of the lay members of the Church of England General Synod who voted down women bishops were themselves women, official voting returns show.According to a list provided by the Church of England, 33 of the 74 members of the House of Laity who rejected the plan to open the episcopate to women were female. Women’s campaigners rounded on them calling their stance “ridiculous” arguing that those who believe in the idea of “male headship” should have followed the male leaders of the Church and voted in favour. They also...
  • Understanding the C of E and Those Who May Come Over

    11/26/2012 9:23:26 AM PST · by marshmallow
    The Hermeneutic of Continuity ^ | 11/24/12 | Fr. Tim Finigan
    The vote against women bishops at the General Synod by the House of Laity may be puzzling to some; perhaps even more so if you are told (correctly) that a significant number of those who voted against it are themselves in favour of women bishops. Tom Sutcliffe has written a balanced and helpful article for Anglican Ink which explains things well. See: A "liberal" member of Synod explains his "no" vote on women bishops. (H/T The Deacon's Bench) Essentially he and others considered that the proposal was misguided in its approach to those who opposed women bishops, and would over-ride...
  • In its search for 'relevance', the Anglican Church is losing relevanc

    11/25/2012 11:08:14 AM PST · by ReformationFan · 3 replies
    Virtue Online ^ | 11-21-12 | Tim Stanley
    Being cruel to Anglicans is about as low as kicking a puppy. The Anglican Church does a lot of good for a lot of people and its presence in British public life forces debates about politics and social policy to be a bit more reflective than they would otherwise be. It is also capable of profound beauty. Village churches are arks of Englishness: neatly stacked Books of Common Prayer, hard wooden pews, a perfume of human breath and burning wax, a Union Jack hung above a shrine to the fallen. I pray that the Church of England is never disestablished,...
  • Women Bishops: It's about the Bible, not fake ideas of progress

    11/24/2012 7:24:11 AM PST · by ReformationFan · 10 replies
    Virtue Online ^ | 11-23-12 | Tom Wright and Douglas Wilson
    We, of all people, ought to know better. "Progress" gave us modern medicine, liberal democracy, the internet. It also gave us the guillotine, the Gulag and the gas chambers. Western intelligentsia assumed in the 1920s that "history" was moving away from the muddle and mess of democracy towards the brave new world of Russian communism. Many in 1930s Germany regarded Dietrich Bonhoeffer and his friends as on the wrong side of history. The strong point of postmodernity is that the big stories have let us down. And the biggest of all was the modernist myth of "progress". What is more,...
  • Women Bishops 'in My Lifetime', Insists Archbishop John Sentamu

    11/24/2012 6:53:04 AM PST · by marshmallow · 11 replies
    The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 10/20/12 | Richard Alleyne and John Bingham
    The Church of England will definitely have women bishops “in my lifetime”, claims Dr John Sentamu, the Archbishop of York.The second most powerful man in the church said that it was “very disappointing” it had not happened during this General Synod but he was sure the principle had been accepted. His comments came the day after the church tore up plans to ordain women as bishops despite overwhelming support in the parishes. After a tortuous 12-year legal process, which secured strong backing in all but two of the 44 dioceses, the move was denied final approval by just six votes....
  • Shocking Case of Unbelief

    11/24/2012 6:49:50 AM PST · by marshmallow · 17 replies
    Father Ed Tomlinson's Blog ^ | 11/23/12 | Father Ed Tomlinson
    Channel 4 offers a reflection today from a clergyman of the Anglican Church who quite openly states a complete and sincere disbelief in God. He is an atheist who considers the scriptures nothing more than human literature. What are we to make of him? Personally I find this sort of liberal wooliness in a clergyman not only absurd but frankly dishonest. What an affront to those who do believe, to the faithful in the pews whose giving pays his stipend! How does he stand at the altar with a straight face I wonder? Little surprise he opts to be filmed...
  • The C of E [Church of England] Must 'Reflect the Values of the Nation'

    11/23/2012 6:07:24 PM PST · by marshmallow · 23 replies
    The Way Out There ^ | 11/23/12 | Fr. Levi
    The transcript for a debate which took place in the British parliament yesterday makes for sobering reading. The debate took place in the wake of the vote by the General Synod of the Church of England not to pass the measure which would have brought in women bishops. One of the remarks made by Sir Tony Baldry, the Second Church Estates Commissioner is particularly noteworthy. He said: As a consequence of the decision by the General Synod, the Church of England no longer looks like a national Church; it simply looks like a sect, like any other sect. If it...
  • The Church of England Still Won't Allow Female Bishops: Good for Them

    11/23/2012 3:21:47 PM PST · by ReformationFan · 18 replies
    Virtue Online ^ | 11-21-12 | Mollie Z. Hemingway
    "When the Church of England narrowly defeated a measure to allow women to be appointed bishops this week after a dozen years of legislative effort, many observers were surprised. After all, the group has ordained women as priests since 1994-what's the big deal with letting female priests become bishops? The answer helps explain why the measure failed. The Church of England is known for the graciousness with which it accommodates minority theological opinions. Since the 1990s, parties that disagreed about female ordination merely had to tolerate each other's presence. Female bishops, on the other hand, would hold significant ecclesial and...
  • UK: Synod Rejects women bishops. Laity knew more than bishops and clergy

    11/22/2012 10:37:00 PM PST · by ReformationFan · 6 replies
    Virtue Online ^ | 11-22-12 | David W. Virtue
    And so it came to pass that the laity in the Church of England rose up and declared they would not have women bishops to reign over them. The vote was admittedly only six votes, but six votes are six votes. The issue cannot be revisited until a new Synod is elected in 2015. Liberals and progressives along with homosexuals and lesbians are in "tears" and "agony" over this defeat. So is the Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams and the soon to be Archbishop Justin Welby who both spoke up in favor of the measure. It was a bitter pill...
  • Church of England Will Have Women Bishops: New Anglican Head

    11/22/2012 6:27:59 PM PST · by marshmallow · 18 replies
    Reuters ^ | 11/22/12 | Joe Brock
    (Reuters) - The next archbishop of Canterbury is confident he will consecrate a female bishop, he said on Thursday, two days after the Church of England voted against allowing women to become bishops. Bishops and clergy on Tuesday in the General Synod, the Church legislature, comfortably backed the change but lay members were four votes short of a two-thirds majority. "Its clear that woman are going to be bishops in the Church of England," said Justin Welby, who will take over from Rowan Williams as the spiritual leader of the Anglican wing of world Christianity at the end of the...
  • The feminist case against women bishops

    11/21/2012 7:48:43 PM PST · by ReformationFan · 5 replies
    Virtue Online ^ | 11-19-12 | Susie Leafe
    Men and women are equal but different. I pray the Church of England will respect this. The question of whether women should become bishops can be boiled down to one word: equality. And it is because I believe in equality that I am against women becoming bishops. Opponents of women bishops in the Church of England are often dismissed as being incurably dusty and out of date. That in 2012 - 12 years into the third millennium - this issue is being argued about is taken as proof that the Church is hopelessly behind the curve. But if you listen...
  • Diocese Says Parish Must Hold Separate Communion Services

    11/21/2012 9:28:21 AM PST · by marshmallow · 38 replies
    The Virginian Pilot ^ | 11/21/12 | Jeff Sheler
    The Roman Catholic Diocese of Richmond has told the nation's only blended Catholic and Episcopal parish it must change its worship services so Catholics and non-Catholics meet in separate rooms for Holy Communion. The parish, Church of the Holy Apostles, is led by Catholic and Episcopal co-pastors and has worshipped together for more than 30 years. It's an arrangement, parishioners say, that over the years has allowed families in mixed marriages to worship side by side and has helped build bonds that transcend denominational boundaries. In an emotionally charged meeting Monday with parish leaders, representatives of the Catholic diocese voiced...
  • Why the Church of England rejected female bishops

    11/21/2012 8:17:28 AM PST · by SeekAndFind · 13 replies
    Christian Science Monitor ^ | 11/21/2012 | Robert Barr
    The Church of England's governing body blocked a move Tuesday to permit women to serve as bishops in a vote so close it failed to settle the question of female leadership and likely condemned the institution to years more debate on the issue. On Wednesday, Britain's Prime Minister David Cameron told the Church of England to "get on with it" and reverse the decision now, not five years from now. And the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, said on Wednesday: "We have – to put it very bluntly – a lot of explaining to do," he said. "Whatever the motivations...
  • Church of England Narrowly Rejects Women Bishops

    11/20/2012 12:32:56 PM PST · by NYer · 16 replies
    juicyecumenism ^ | November 20, 2012 | Bart Gingerich
    (Photo Credit: The Telegraph) Today, the General Synod for the Church of England rejectedthe ordination of women bishops by a mere handful of votes. So ends for now a nearly 12 year legislative process to upend standards for episcopal office. Much of the controversy surrounded the provision of stand-in bishops for parishes opposed to women’s ordination.Passage of the ordination innovations required a 2/3 majority in all houses. The votes were 44 for and two against in the house of bishops, 148 for and 45 against in the house of clergy, and 132 for and 74 against in the house of...
  • Bishop Gene Robinson Considers Vouchers to Religious Schools a 'Tragedy'

    11/20/2012 9:40:38 AM PST · by SeekAndFind · 17 replies
    Christian Post ^ | 11/20/2012 | Michael Gryboski
    WASHINGTON – Gene Robinson, the first openly homosexual bishop in The Episcopal Church, believes that voucher programs that benefit religious schools are a "tragedy." The controversial bishop of New Hampshire told The Christian Post on Monday his views on vouchers at an event sponsored by the Center for American Progress on the issue of poverty reduction. "I am a believer in public education and I believe every dollar diverted from public education either by religious schools or by charter schools is a tragedy," said Robinson. "[A voucher] takes away from this great mission that is so embedded in the life...
  • All Eyes on 'Game-Changer' Welby as Church Faces Final Showdown on Women Bishops

    11/20/2012 7:11:33 AM PST · by marshmallow · 10 replies
    The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11/17/12 | John Bingham,
    The incoming Archbishop of Canterbury is preparing a personal plea to traditionalists in the Church of England to “go forward” with the idea of women bishops next week in an attempt to end years of wrangling over the issue.In what could be one of the most decisive interventions of his leadership – even before he takes over as Archbishop – the Bishop of Durham, the Rt Rev Justin Welby, will urge doubters to back the measure in the name of unity. The vote at a special session of the Church’s General Synod in London will be the first test of...
  • Anti-Israel Protestants: more Bible study needed

    11/19/2012 11:57:39 PM PST · by 2ndDivisionVet · 43 replies
    The Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles ^ | November 19, 2012 | Mark Paredes
    “The state of Israel is an illegal, genocidal place… to equate Judaism with the state of Israel is to equate Christianity with Flavor Flav.” – UCC Pastor Emeritus Jeremiah Wright, in a speech to thousands of people in Baltimore in 2011 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. – Acts 17:11 ----- Much has been made in the Jewish community – too much, in my humble opinion – of the recent letter signed by 15 Protestant church leaders...
  • Women bishops: Church of England synod to vote

    11/19/2012 10:31:46 PM PST · by Cronos · 2 replies
    BBC ^ | 20.Nov.2012 | BBC
    A plan paving the way for consecrations from 2014 is expected to be backed by bishops and clergy, but the vote among lay members could be much closer. ..Ahead of the vote, synod members will debate the latest compromise proposal for parishes that reject the changes. The vote is being seen as the first major test for the next Archbishop of Canterbury, the Right Reverend Justin Welby. The current bishop of Durham is expected to speak during the debate and urge the synod to support the introduction of women bishops. Approval is also supported by the outgoing Archbishop of Canterbury,...
  • The Flim Flam Man [the ELCA's presiding bishop]

    11/19/2012 2:59:52 PM PST · by rhema · 6 replies
    Common Sense for a Senseless World ^ | 11/17/11 | Don Kriefall
    In the old west Snake oil salesman peddled elixirs that allegedly cured everything from acne to gout, but in fact these “miracle cures” were simply watered down whiskey or worse. Con men used elaborate ruses, such as the scheme used in the movie, The Sting, to swindle their marks and steal their money. There are many e-mail and internet scams that attempt to wrest money and information from those who are greedy or simply unsuspecting and naďve. There are many ways to deceive, mislead, dupe and betray in order to pilfer another’s assets. But, some of those assets are far...