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Somehow I responded to my post instead of yours, please see the above post.....we need to be smart, not panicked.....

You wanna know the truth? Ain't a DAMN thing they are gonna do except POLLUTE our ranks. ANYBODY who came up through the ‘Rat machine to power is condemned as far as I'm concerned.....no way.

I say we keep our backs up, stay strong, and SUPPORT ONLY Conservative candidates. The best way to do that is to make sure a ‘Rat in RINO clothing isn't sitting as the current occupant with RNC RINO support.

THAT'S HOW THIS GAME NEEDS TO BE PLAYED!

I'm not interested in saving some ‘Rat's rear end.

Why not?

After all, we have been recruiting muslims as physicians for our combat troops, translators for terrorist interrogations, analysts for the CIA, sensitivity trainers for several government agencies, and ornaments for the WH Christmas Communist-Kwanzaa tree.

Might as well let all the barbarians through the gates!

I agree, but we need anybody we can get right now. Once this bill gets to be law, there’s only one way out, and it’s not going to be through the legislature.

Maybe they’ve had a wake-up call and realize they won’t be reelected unless they change. Let’s watch them and see if they change.

But in the meantime, we shouldn’t shoot them down when they’re actually (for whatever reason) trying to do the right thing.

McCain probably told him he could switch sides as often as he wanted to .... and the GOP still might nominate him for president some day.

Maybe you didn’t get the memo?

NO MORE GUTLESS RINOs!

THAT INCLUDES ‘RATS JUMPING SHIP! We’ll just get them in the primary anyway.....

A PA Democrat named Atkinson switched in 1981 and was promptly retired by the liberal PA voters in 1982.

Mccain give me a break all you had to do is get your first choice of VP not to vote for this thing and now you want to lead the opposition what a joke.

I’m OK with grabbing these seats this way now but these seats will need to go into conservative hands in the next election.

McCain...trying to bring in more RINOs? What a shock.

don't hold your breath mccain had the chance to sink obozo ship yet he passed!

plenty of state legislatures now in control by GOP and they are redistricting...

this is why Bart Gordon opted out

our biggest problem is in the Senate

and not just with Dems

This is one defeat we can’t afford. Once Bambi and the Dems get this one in place, I honestly think we’re not going to be able to do anything about it, or at any rate, not through the normal channels.

All they want is the framework and the enforcement mechanism now, and they’ll fill in the details later. I think the light is beginning to dawn even for idiot RINOs, and they may be having the one good moment of their entire political careers.

I have never liked McCain and I voted for him because he was the only alternative to Obama and I was really voting for Sarah. I read a comment once that McCain was the only POW ever known to gain weight, and I think this reflects his compromising mentality. But even if he has just stood up for this one thing, we should support him at this moment, on this issue, and not shoot ourselves in the foot.

Blue Dog Dems are in a lot of trouble in the South and Midwest. Families who have voted for Dem’s for generations in those regions have now seen the light. This is even happening to an extent in Massachusetts in the special election. The GOP candidate is a long shot to win, but he could wind up with a strong showing at the voting booth next month.

The Blue Dog Dem in my district is scared for the first time. Older rural voters (traditionally Democrat voters) turned out for local townhall meetings and Tea Parties. Things are changing here. Today we received a mailing from the Blue Dog Dem with the title “Protecting Medicare for Florida Seniors”. Best laugh of the day.

Ya get to a point where ya’d rather go down to defeat than continue following old crap like RINO McLame and his ilk.

Graham, McLame, Martinez? NO MORE NEVER AGAIN.
Conservative or f-off. NO F-ING RINOs.

Probably. That will happen about the time the 1 Billionth Imam arises from his well.

Yes, that’s true. But IMHO, if there’s any way we can get a vote, we go for it.

I hope this bill can be stopped and I honestly don’t care who stops it.

Once Obama and the radical left get the shell in place, there will be no leverage over the Dems, no way to stop the “enhancement” of the act, and we will be so screwed the only way out will be something I don’t even want to contemplate. It’s got to be stopped NOW.

Ditto.

I think we were only able to do that after the GOP won in 94

Every little bit helps to rid us of Speaker Nancy. Her demotion will be the sweetest thing.

maybe they want obamacare to pass and totally wreck the country so that the one true pure conservative will emerge from the ashes and lead us to the promised land

If Newt and Dede had not screwed us with the NY State RINO GOP in NY 23 then that would hev been one more vote.

Maybe that Repub in MA can win Kennedy’s seat on the Jan 19 election. There has to be qa way to stop this bill or sabotage it.

Switching to a minority party is very unusual and a sign of how bad the Dems have gotten.

Ah, the Keyboard Kommandos strike again. If we were all as perfect as you are, we wouldn’t be in this situation. But life isn’t like that.

Give them their Road to Damascus moment (google it if you don’t know what I’m talking about) and encourage them for at least attempting to oppose this monstrous opposition of fascism.

Why shoot them down when they’re actually doing something right? How is that any incentive?

Wouldn’t it just be easier for McCain to become a Dem? And take his little dog Toto Graham with him?

The RINOs are feathering their nest......I guess they are feeling the heat.

f you Juan Mclame you p.o.s. RINO
Go home to Arizona and drool ya too old fool.

Not much of a secret now is it? LOL

McCain to Chris Carney: Why don't you become a Republican?

Carney to McCain: You first!

That’s the important question. I think this is a great strategy. If so, the Dems will be out putting oil on the steps and trying to eliminate the wavering members.

Prayers for the latter and for whoever is trying to get them to switch. If this bill doesn’t go through now, it will buy us time.

Obama desperately wants to get at least the shell through, and once he has done that, it’s all over. But if the GOP can at least stop this from happening at this moment, I think we can muster forces and it may never happen.

And the idiots who are criticizing the people who are attempting it should just shut up.

A reliable Democratic leadership vote! Voted for stimulus, healthcare, financial regulation all opposed by more conservative Democrats. Get a good candidate to run against him and he’s history. The worst thing to do is to make him a Republican.

Yes, if John could pull that off, I’d be first in line to give him kudos for it. Meanwhile, in the land of constant pain for Conservatives, life goes on.

I almost do not care how the GOP sinks ObamaCare - if they pull it off - they would be major heroes. 5 or 6 Dems in the House probably are tired of getting threatened by O’s goons. At this point - whatever it takes.

Getting them to switch is one thing. But supporting them in a reelection bid against a more conservative candidate, HELL NO.

We have enough Rino’s in Juan McCain.

mccain,butt out,you are toast in 2010.

Good. If they could get half dozen or so to switch that might help.

If McCain can figure out a way to sink Obamacare by pulling 5 or 6 Dems in the House - he probably would be a major hero.

Well, at least they’re doing something.

Before everybody here shoots them down and tells them this isn’t worth the effort...yes, it is.

I don’t care about their past track record. What they do now is what counts, and anybody who is not against us is for us, paraphrasing what a certain Person said.

Ps - thanks Dede and Newt.

Could they pull 4 Dems and get Cao to switch his vote?

That would be funny! I know it would never happen, but man, that would 24/7 comedy. At least 0 would never have another trip or vacation.

I smell a RINO attack. If he switches he could be beaten by a conservative in Nov. McClame is at it again.

Eee Gads... one can just imagine the type of person McCain will try to get to swap parties.

Could the GOP pull 5 Dems from the House to sabotage this bill? They have to find some way.

Joe Biden?

“it would have been a Republican president and a Democratic Congress. You have to operate in a more bipartisan fashion. “

Well Doug what a conservative President would do in that sitch would be keep his veto pen glued in his hand for convenience sake.