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Posts by Talisker

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  • Rotherham, England

    08/28/2014 12:20:44 PM PDT · 9 of 11
    Talisker to mojito
    The role of radical Islam in Britain is as the proxy Brownshirt wing of the Left. The Left knows that if it can terrorize a town into surrendering — and indeed a nation — into surrendering their children with their proxy thugs, then the door is open to everything. Rotherham is not about racism. It is about fascism....

    Excellent. The sweetness of truth, so very rare in this world.

  • Colorado Boy Hospitalized After Drinking Dairy Queen Milk Shake Tainted With Cleaning Products

    08/28/2014 12:12:21 PM PDT · 8 of 30
    Talisker to Kackikat
    The woman who got the tea laced with an acid instead of sugar may have been an accident....twice in one month, HELL NO!


  • Dad acquitted in slaying of driver who killed sons

    08/27/2014 3:02:05 PM PDT · 98 of 118
    Talisker to Fantasywriter
    Actually a lot of people on this thread believe there is reasonable doubt. What makes you so certain the father was the shooter? He had no gun powder residue. How did he manage that, if he’d just shot the drunk driver?

    You don't get out much, do you?

    Here's a hint - the same cops that came out to help pick up the bodies of the dead children, are the ones who did the residue testing.

    Do the math.

  • Police Advise ‘Alarming’ Lights In Sky Are Part Of Camp Pendleton Training Exercise

    08/26/2014 3:31:30 PM PDT · 4 of 7
    Talisker to BenLurkin
  • Attention gay rights lobby: your feelings aren’t constitutionally protected

    08/26/2014 1:19:40 PM PDT · 16 of 18
    Talisker to Sherman Logan
    Most of these cases, if not perhaps all, have been tried in State courts. I am unaware of anybody basing their suit on the federal Constitution. Though I could of course be wrong.

    This means the lede reference to the Constitution is irrelevant. Part of our (rapidly disintegrating) federal system is that states can pass and enforce a lot of stupid laws. If they don’t directly contradict the national Constitution, or to a lesser extent disagree with national laws, they’re good to go.

    All current laws are corporate in nature - administrative statutes and regulations. As a result, State codes draw directly on federal status for their application and say so within their own statutes. Therefore establishing federal applicability is, in fact, establishing State applicability - and county and city applicability.

  • Attention gay rights lobby: your feelings aren’t constitutionally protected

    08/26/2014 12:43:15 PM PDT · 12 of 18
    Talisker to Oliviaforever
    The slippery slope of the 14th Amendment , the Civil Rights Act, liberal SCOTUS justices and the destruction of our culture my the media.

    Close. Very close. But still not close enough. What those things are, are the first level of imposition of corporate status. And that's the elephant in the living room of America - EVERYTHING the Left does is through the imposition of corporate status. Until that's addressed, directly, nothing will change and everything will get worse.

    Your rights haven't gone anywhere - they're just not being used. You have been presumed to have surrendered your rights, voluntarily, in order to to enjoy the limited indemnification of corporate status. And corporations have privileges, not rights.

    So write, protest, philosophize, vote and get steamed up all you want - it doesn't matter. Nothing matters, do you understand? Because everything you are doing is presumed to be the actions of a corporation, or an incorporated individual (same diff). So it's just noise that has no effect on government policy, because you have no standing as a corporate policymaker. You're like an employee at GM. The corporate officers don't have to care what you think, and they don't, as long as they get the work out of you they want and pay you the least amount of money possible.

    That's the explanation for what you see going on. That's why our country has become what it has become. The Left gets this. The Right doesn't. Therefore, America is what it now is. Period.

    To borrow a parallel, that's astronomy, while typical politics is like astrology in comparison. Remember in Apollo 13, when the engineer in the back of the room of engineers (who were arguing with each other about what to do) yelled, "wait a minute, power is everything"! And he pointed out that the limitations of the batteries were absolutes, and reigned in all their ideas.

    Same thing here. Presumption of corporate status is everything. Once that happens, ALL your rights are gone. The very foundation of the Constitution is REVERSED. The government becomes your CREATOR BY LAW. And you? You are allowed only the privileges that serve that government. And rights are nowhere to be found.

    That's why these gleeful gays are such fools, why Stalin called such people "useful idiots." They ate treating down the only freedom that protects them literally out of spite, when history shows they are top targets for destruction under EVERY totalitarian regime.

    Whether America survives or not depends on whether Americans face this fundamental truth or not. That's a fact as inescapable as predicting the survival of someone falling out of the sky, and reflecting on their use - or non-use - of their parachute. It's absolute.

    May God bless America to wake up before its too late. Because at this point, I don't think anything less will work.

  • Distorting ‘Denial of Care’ Into a Virtue

    08/26/2014 11:57:02 AM PDT · 26 of 27
    Talisker to HiTech RedNeck
    I’m talking about how your shooting people for mere proclamation of ideas is holy... at all.

    Again, you are being asked to defend your “CURE.”

    Hint: Jesus would rebuke you.

    The basic concept is sedition. But more philosophically, are you arguing that there are no limits to free speech? Or are you arguing that words can do no harm? Because if you admit words can harm, then the foundation for what I am saying stands, given that the harm is properly met by what you call my "cure." So what is the proper response, the proper "cure," for calmly, openly, methodically planned genocide? To wait until millions are dead? Remember, the issue here is not arguing over the possibility of a mysterious side-effect. These so-called medical theorists want to withhold medical care from millions of people simply because they deem them unworthy of it - literally dehumanize them by law.

    That, to me, is Hitler. It's Mao. It's Stalin. it's Pol Pot. Pick your mass-murdering tyrant. And you are telling me that if these murderers and their cronies were stopped at the planning stage, if people didn't wait till the horror of WWII ended to string up Mussolini & Co., that Jesus would rebuke those who intervened? Really?

    Then let me quote the actual Jesus to you, and correct your fantasy of Him. Jesus said, "Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division; for from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law." (Luke 12:49–53)

    THAT Jesus would rebuke me? I think not - I think He would rebuke you. When millions are dead, I think He would say to you, "Why did you let this happen? Why didn't you speak up? You saw how they were going to kill everyone. They didn't hide it. They said they would judge who would deserve life, and who would be stripped of their humanity. They claimed the powers of godhood in order to commit mass murder, and you called it non-violent free speech. They wore white doctor's coats, and you abandoned your common sense. They spoke of monstrous genocide, and because they kept their voices calm, you claimed they were reasonable and turned your back on your own spiritual duty. Now your country is decimated with dead and dying, their murderous laws are in place, and you pray for relief? Did God not give you a brain and heart and grace to stand up for the truth protect life? Why didn't you use it!?"

    That's the Jesus I know. YMMV.

    But I'll tell you one thing, this isn't theory. This article is current, and Obamacare is the law. And no, we can't go around trying to string people up. But we damn sure can speak possibly about the seriousness of the crimes being committed. And yes, I believe that a just country would convict people planning - planning - dehumanization in order to support the deprivation of medical care, of attempted genocide, and sentence them to death.

    And in response, I believe Jesus would extend His blessing and protection and say, "well done."

  • Victor Davis Hanson: Ferguson Postmortem

    08/26/2014 10:00:08 AM PDT · 14 of 25
    Talisker to EveningStar
    In short, the only reason Ferguson erupted was because the police officer in question was white...

    Nonsense, the race-baiting came second. Initially the story was about this being the cold-blooded execution of an unarmed man executed by a cop in broad daylight while trying to surrender with his hands up.

    Then came the race crap.

    Even then though, there are questions, since apparently an audio exists of seven shots, then a pause, then four more, which could easily translate to the execution of the perp once he went down. And the cop's face wasn't broken.

    On the other hand, the perp didn't have his hands up and he did rush the cop and attack him, and so by all those indications the shooting seems justified on grounds of self-defense. So the only real question seems to be whether after the thug went down, the cop decided to finish him off once and for all.

  • A nine-billion-dollar-a-year industry

    08/26/2014 9:12:30 AM PDT · 4 of 9
    Talisker to Talisker

    Common use, not “break” use.

    (Grrrr... autocorrect)

  • A nine-billion-dollar-a-year industry

    08/26/2014 9:11:02 AM PDT · 2 of 9
    Talisker to Sean_Anthony

    I believe these drugs are the root of liberalism. People joke (or don’t joke) that liberalism is a mental illness, that liberals are a combination of lockstep obedience, brittle shrill rage eruptions, irrational thinking, and a horror movie level of lack of conscience. Well, it just so happens that those are the exact symptoms of taking antidepressants. And Democrats didn’t used to be nearly this insane - they changed quite dramatically at the beginning of the Clinton 90’s. And take a wild guess when antidepressants exploded into break use. Go ahead - guess.

  • Beheader Jihadi John identified

    08/24/2014 10:41:24 PM PDT · 60 of 65
    Talisker to Lazamataz
  • California's Drought Is So Bad, Its Mountains Rose Half an Inch

    08/24/2014 12:15:41 PM PDT · 15 of 16
    Talisker to Citizen Zed
    If there's one piece of good news here, it's that the uplift of the tectonic plates in the drought zone shouldn't change the likelihood of earthquakes or other seismic events. "This will change the stress on faults, but by an amount that's really small," Agnew told Popular Science.

    LOL, tell that to the people in Napa. You know, land of the hot springs and geysers? And now, earthquakes from million-year-old dormant faults which mysteriously wake up. Yeah, what a mystery.

  • Doctor Who fans, how was it?

    08/24/2014 12:08:12 PM PDT · 19 of 30
    Talisker to Celtic Conservative
    I dunno, gotta download it this A.M.

    From where can it be downloaded?

  • Shanghai to San Francisco in 100 minutes by Chinese supersonic submarine

    08/24/2014 11:44:33 AM PDT · 66 of 71
    Talisker to sukhoi-30mki
    Go for it, China.

  • Police release video of fatal Kajieme Powell shooting in St. Louis

    08/23/2014 11:27:31 PM PDT · 159 of 161
    Talisker to gogeo
    Reasonable and rational only has meaning in context. I do not expect cops to exercise perfect judgment, I expect them to follow guidelines and policies.

    I hold Monday Morning Quarterbacks to a higher standard.

    You are seriously deficient.

    Deficient why - because I dare have an opinion on "guidelines and policies" that differs from yours? How tremendously irritating that must be for you! It's just basically proof that someone simply has no idea what he's talking about, isn't it? Really, you don't even need to converse with people - if they disagree with you, they're already wrong by definition! LOL!

    And as for Monday Morning Quarterbacking, are you a cop? If so, do you write your own policies? Or do you obey policies set by a civilian city counsel? Do you require them to be cops, too? Seems this whole American civil authority thing pisses you off. Does it upset you that a civilian President is CIC of the Armed Forces? How about the authority of the city council in Seattle to change the rules of engagement for the police - do you think they should have that authority, or should the cops decide for themselves, because no one else could possibly have any knowledge or life experiences that could apply to the situation?

  • Distorting ‘Denial of Care’ Into a Virtue

    08/23/2014 11:13:19 PM PDT · 11 of 27
    Talisker to HiTech RedNeck

    The bones of 200 million murder victims of their own collectivist governments in the 20th Century.

    Also how is this any holier than what the theorists themselves advocate?

    Simple. Non-collectivist theories admit the sacredness of human life, while collectivist theories rely upon dehumanized status and the culling of those who resist it. Therefore, the former is holier than the latter.

  • Astronomy Picture of the Day -- Contrasting Terrains on Comet Churyumov-Gerasimenko

    08/23/2014 9:11:24 PM PDT · 10 of 22
    Talisker to GeronL
    nothing to knock the rocks off either

    Well the comet is spinning, so there's that. Any movement would fling objects off of it because there's nothing to keep them there. Also, the question arises as to how they got there in the first place without gravitational attraction. Maybe electrostatic? Comets go way far away and then return to the inner system and go around the sun. If there is a charge differential of some kind between the two poles of the orbit (i.e. the sun vs. deep space) then maybe that's it. I wonder what kind of EM field readings the spacecraft is getting from it. Weird object. NASA should look for a hatch...

  • Astronomy Picture of the Day -- Contrasting Terrains on Comet Churyumov-Gerasimenko

    08/23/2014 8:47:26 PM PDT · 7 of 22
    Talisker to SunkenCiv

    Very strange. Nowhere near enough gravity to keep all those rocks sticking to it, let alone to have what looks all the world like a dust or small debris slope at an angle of repose.

  • Distorting ‘Denial of Care’ Into a Virtue

    08/23/2014 8:38:32 PM PDT · 8 of 27
    Talisker to Slyfox
    Robert Jay Lifton - The Nazi Doctors. A must read book.

    I've heard of it and I believe I looked through it long ago and was impressed, and put it on my "get this" list. Thanks for the recommendation and reminder, I'll get on it.

  • Vermont: Restaurant ad for bacon removed after Muslim claimed it offended her

    08/23/2014 7:26:57 PM PDT · 62 of 106
    Talisker to markomalley
    Winooski’s city manager spoke on behalf of the city. She said: “The cool part of living in a diverse community is that it’s not always comfortable. It’s a fascinating place with lots of opportunities for conversation. The City has to pay attention to a lot of factors while acting within what we can regulate,” said Katherine “Deac” Decarreau.

    Is that why it's cool for Muslims to be uncomfortable, "Deac"?

    Oh I forgot, you mean it's cool for Americans to be uncomfortable with city governments catering to sharia intolerance by stepping on First Amendment rights.


  • The Golf Address [Usually noxious Dowd slams Obama]

    08/23/2014 7:20:51 PM PDT · 24 of 52
    Talisker to SoFloFreeper
    Hillary and I agreed when we partied with Vernon Jordan up here, hanging out with celebrities and rich folks is fun.


  • Distorting ‘Denial of Care’ Into a Virtue

    08/23/2014 7:09:13 PM PDT · 2 of 27
    Talisker to CharlesOConnell

    Every solution to social problems developed by collectivism is inevitably dependant upon (representative stakeholder proxies) having to decide who should be murdered in the name (and statistically viable determination of the group consensus delivered through anonymous voting practices protected by absolute indemnification) of the common good.

    Which is why history shows repeatedly and conclusively that proactively shoving small numbers of collectivist theorists up against a wall and executing them by firing squad while leaving their bodies to rot in the street as an object lesson, prevents large mass murders as well as the destruction of human civilization.

  • Police release video of fatal Kajieme Powell shooting in St. Louis

    08/22/2014 8:04:58 PM PDT · 157 of 161
    Talisker to gogeo
    Cops in the line of fire do not have the benefit of hindsight, and those who use hindsight to judge are not reasonable or rational. I do not expect human beings to take the job with any other expectations, and I don't want anyone wearing a uniform who would.

    Yeah, where would we be if we required cops to be reasonable and rational, eh?

    LOL, incredible.

  • What is really going on in Ferguson, Missouri

    08/22/2014 8:01:13 PM PDT · 68 of 68
    Talisker to Jeff Head
    As it is, in Ferguson, no resort to the use of heavier weaponry has been necessary, thank God.

    Heavier weaponry like tripod-mounted machine guns?

    Yeah, thank God they didn't feel the need to mow everyone down to re-establish peace. Because hey, if people riot, what else could they possibly do? There simply aren't any alternatives. And its not like pointing that machine gun incites feelings of fear, defensiveness or anger in already unstable crowds. I mean, it's not like they're cops, who get alarmed enough and incited enough to empty magazines into crazies holding a knife, or worse, if they see someone armed with one-tenth of what they're carrying. That's different.

    I keep forgetting, incitement is something by which only the authorities can be victimized.

  • Police release video of fatal Kajieme Powell shooting in St. Louis

    08/22/2014 12:28:25 PM PDT · 142 of 161
    Talisker to ctdonath2
    You need to read & watch this

    Why, because bad guys can be treacherous? You think your the only one who grasps that concept? What you don't seem to grasp is the rule of law, due process, rights, the existence of mental illness on the streets, statistics or actual police training.

    Do you know, for example, why those cops didn't stop 50 yards away, take out rifles, scope the perp and shoot him down at a safe distance?

    I'm asking you a serious question here. Do you know the answer? Because by your way of thinking, the existence of the knife and threats were an automatic death sentence. So did the cops screw up by endangering themselves with proximity and handguns, when they could have backed up in their car and used rifles?

    The fact is that the vast majority of police interactions with armed and angry people do not result in killing the perp. The fact is that cops are trained in de-escalation and do it every day. The fact is that they actually have to justify firing in comparison to the option of nonviolent resolution every time they shoot. Your asinine attacks over anything less than blowing dangerous perps away has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with police work. Killing people is supposed to be the last resort, Rambo, not the first. And discussing nonviolent alternatives is what a free people do in order to hold onto their freedom.

    The police are not the military, genius. That fact doesn't make me ignorant of the realities of the street. In many ways, police work is harder than military work, because no, you CAN'T just take out the "target."

    Grow the hell up.

  • What is really going on in Ferguson, Missouri

    08/22/2014 12:10:15 PM PDT · 59 of 68
    Talisker to Jeff Head

    I’m not sure what your point is since I have not come out against the existence of SWAT teams or effective and appropriate riot control or police self-defense.

    If, however, you are justifying the setting up of a manned, tripod-mounted machine gun on top of an APC pointed at the crowd, or having SWAT officers roam the crowd pointing loaded M-16s at people or firing tear gas into private yards containing peacefully assembled people, then yeah, I have a problem with that.

    A big one. Call it a 230+ year-old philosophical difference of opinion.

  • Police release video of fatal Kajieme Powell shooting in St. Louis

    08/22/2014 12:03:42 PM PDT · 141 of 161
    Talisker to ctdonath2
    The rules of engagement do not require the cops to die. You’re demanding they do.

    Your insistence on this lie despite my repeated and original specific rejection of the concept shows that you cannot rely on facts, but only personal insults and red herrings.

    My only point has been that nonviolent and nonlethal means to deal with this situation were available to the police and part of their training, and they refused to use any of it. That's a simple and unavoidable fact, which is why you have had to resort to hysteria and personal insults to try to get around it. But there is no getting around it, insults or not. We are watching the militarization of the police and being habituated to summary executions in our streets. That's the reality here.

  • Police release video of fatal Kajieme Powell shooting in St. Louis

    08/21/2014 8:11:55 PM PDT · 135 of 161
    Talisker to TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
    I will play in the sand box one more time.

    Don't bother.

  • Congress Proposes Law Banning Body Armor In The Land Of The Free

    08/21/2014 8:05:19 PM PDT · 3 of 51
    Talisker to Nachum
    People buy body armor for protection. That’s the point. Duh. So why in the world would they want to ban it?

    Lemme think...

  • ‘Doctor Who’ returns with a new season on BBC America (Aug 23)

    08/21/2014 7:54:01 PM PDT · 42 of 91
    Talisker to Perdogg

    Is there any way to see this on the Net?

  • (Those Were The Days!) PHOTO: Late 1960s: Economy Class Seating on a Pan-Am 747

    08/21/2014 7:43:33 PM PDT · 29 of 107
    Talisker to DogByte6RER

    No headrests or seatbelts either - just like the cars, LOL.

  • SECCHI Image (What is that?)

    08/21/2014 7:39:58 PM PDT · 22 of 26
    Talisker to Jet Jaguar
    The diamond shape does not show on the animation.

    I noticed that, but if you got your still from the animation you'll note that yours is time stamped from two years ago.

    Whatever this thing is, it's come and gone repeatedly. But I've never seen it as developed as the still I posted from the 18th.

  • Police release video of fatal Kajieme Powell shooting in St. Louis

    08/21/2014 7:36:24 PM PDT · 132 of 161
    Talisker to TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
    Armed to the teeth? A handgun is only marginally better than a knife.

    LOL, thanks for playing.

  • What is really going on in Ferguson, Missouri

    08/21/2014 7:35:04 PM PDT · 57 of 68
    Talisker to greeneyes

    When it exists, yes.

  • Police release video of fatal Kajieme Powell shooting in St. Louis

    08/21/2014 7:34:13 PM PDT · 131 of 161
    Talisker to ctdonath2

    There is a difference between neutralizing the threat and making sure someone is dead, except in the military.

    In the military, for the most part, there is no difference between the two. For the police however, the reason they are called police and given all sorts of crisis intervention and nonlethal weapons and tactics training is because there is supposed to be a DIFFERENCE between them and the military.

    Your examples are irrelevent because they don’t acknowledge the EFFECT of ANY partial or nonlethal approaches. For example one or two shots and then backing up. Or tazer and one shot. Or tazer alone, or simply backing up and talking to the obviously crazy guy who is obviously worked up over the riots. On and on and on. Time is a huge tactic that was completely abandoned here. Why park so close? Why not use the availabe space? Why not do the minimum instead of the maximum?

    But what’s the point - twelve bullets dumped into the perp, the knife is gone, he’s on the ground twitching, and you justify the cuffs because he’s still twitching! LOL! Hey, how about just arming the police with with 40mm grenade launchers to be sure? Or just get kids in high school to be cops and tell them to kill everyone who gives them lip or who is armed - after all, what do they need training for when all they’re going to do is blow everyone away anyway?

    Because that’s the rules of engagement you’re defending here, and it’s pathetic. It’s an insult to real cops with real training who use that training to disarm and de-escalate situations all over the country every day. You talk like a paranoid Rambo with zero comprehension of nonlethal tactics, and the absolutely enormous amount of options available to the police that they know about, train for, plan and have available at all times.

    You write: “You reach for him to cuff him, he slashes your throat - stupid move.” No, stupid example, but one that perfectly represents the shallowness of your understanding of the actual professionalism of police work. You think you’re defending cops, but you’re only insulting them.

  • Police release video of fatal Kajieme Powell shooting in St. Louis

    08/21/2014 7:18:49 PM PDT · 130 of 161
    Talisker to TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
    “One more thing - believe it or not, just because someone seems to be trying to kill a cop, does not give the cop the right to kill him back”

    Guess what? You just forfeited your right to even participate in this conversation. If you think a police officer who is facing imminent death does not have the right to defend themselves then you sir not only have no right to even talk on this thread you should give up your screen name also.

    I may never be able to enjoy Talisker again.

    Guess what? The rest of my statement - the part you deliberately left out from post #113 - went like this:

    "We have what’s called a legal system. The job of the cop is to defend himself and make an arrest - not do roaming summary executions. Its a subtle difference worth thinking about. Stopping the threat is one thing. Dumping bullets into a downed man to make sure he’s dead, and then ludicrously handcuffing the corpse for the cameras is something completely different."

    I guess that's why you left it out - it leaves you nothing to talk about.

  • What is really going on in Ferguson, Missouri

    08/21/2014 7:13:17 PM PDT · 55 of 68
    Talisker to greeneyes
    Yep. Those police should just stand there on the street corner sucking their thumbs while arsonists work, and Molotov cocktails are thrown and all manner of miscreant behavior happens.

    Why should they do that?

  • SECCHI Image (What is that?)

    08/21/2014 4:55:50 PM PDT · 1 of 26
    Photo URL is:

  • The Case Against Officer Darren Wilson.

    08/21/2014 4:43:03 PM PDT · 50 of 108
    Talisker to 2ndDivisionVet

    LOL, well yeah, there is that... ;)

  • The Case Against Officer Darren Wilson.

    08/21/2014 4:19:12 PM PDT · 7 of 108
    Talisker to 2ndDivisionVet

    FACT: All actually relevant facts have been withheld in this race-baiting screed.

    Shoulda included a barf alert, 2D.

  • Police release video of fatal Kajieme Powell shooting in St. Louis

    08/21/2014 3:10:57 PM PDT · 114 of 161
    Talisker to devolve
    You are fugitive from Democrat Underground and have wife that looks like Hillary or Moochelle

    You're way out of line and I've reported you for abuse.


    08/21/2014 2:56:12 PM PDT · 8 of 21
    Talisker to Jim Robinson

    Excellent comparison. Bergdahl did indeed lead directly to Foley.

  • Police release video of fatal Kajieme Powell shooting in St. Louis

    08/21/2014 2:49:43 PM PDT · 113 of 161
    Talisker to ctdonath2

    One more thing - believe it or not, just because someone seems to be trying to kill a cop, does not give the cop the right to kill him back. We have what’s called a legal system. The job of the cop is to defend himself and make an arrest - not do roaming summary executions. Its a subtle difference worth thinking about. Stopping the that is one thing. Dumping bullets into a downed man to make sure he’s dead, and then ludicrously handcuffing the corpse for the cameras is something completely different.

  • Police release video of fatal Kajieme Powell shooting in St. Louis

    08/21/2014 2:44:22 PM PDT · 112 of 161
    Talisker to ctdonath2

    I didn’t say they shouldn’t have shot, or endangered themselves. I said they had a lot more options than they used. They just went straight to the final solution. Yeah, it worked. But is that why they’re out there - to go for summary executions whenever possible? Then what’s all the rest of their crisis intervention and non-lethal training for? A gag? They can’t freaking back up? They can’t talk? Just empty the magazine, file the report, and go to lunch?

  • Police release video of fatal Kajieme Powell shooting in St. Louis

    08/21/2014 11:58:52 AM PDT · 95 of 161
    Talisker to devolve
    I started counting out loud to 10 - but somehow my carbine barked off 4 quick shots.

    Good thing your carbine fired on its own, otherwise you'd be responsible for murdering two people in a muddy ditch. Because that's what you're saying, right? Otherwise, you fired four times and missed with every shot and are blaming your weapon.

    Many FReepers appear to have led sheltered lives with few adult responsibilities

    It doesn't seem you know much about adult responsibilities, let alone other FReepers, so I'd drop that argument if I were you.

  • Police release video of fatal Kajieme Powell shooting in St. Louis

    08/21/2014 11:51:04 AM PDT · 93 of 161
    Talisker to devolve

    No you cannot guarantee your first shot will hit.

    But who are “you”?

    A resident dealing with a break-in in the middle of the night? An armed civilian dealing with an attack?

    Or two trained cops armed to the teeth in broad daylight with time, position, backup and authority on their side?

    Situational awareness and conditional responsibility are the BIGGEST aspects of using a gun. Starting with: you don’t shoot if you don’t have to shoot.

  • Mike Ditka can keep calling them ‘Redskins,’ but I won’t

    08/21/2014 11:10:20 AM PDT · 72 of 105
    Talisker to Chi-townChief
    This is about whether you’re human.

    Of course it is, because historically, that's what liberalism is about: determining who is human, and who is not. The former get government and corporate jobs, while the latter are put into camps, shot, gassed and burned.

    Note that that's clear, let me ask you - one last time - about the team name, comrade.

  • What is really going on in Ferguson, Missouri

    08/21/2014 10:59:12 AM PDT · 46 of 68
    Talisker to Jeff Head

    You can’t leave out the absurd militarized rollout by the police. I never thought I would see a manned, tripod-mounted machine gun on top of an APC in this country, but the police did that in Ferguson - along with cop-troops sticking rifles in everyone’s faces and firing tear-gas into private yards. They deliberately incited the rioting by these acts, nothing less. It was obscene and dangerous and inexcusable. Anyone who doesn’t see it as a major incrementalism step towards acclimatizing the population towards totalitarianism is simply in denial.

  • Police release video of fatal Kajieme Powell shooting in St. Louis

    08/21/2014 10:46:13 AM PDT · 90 of 161
    Talisker to Laissez-faire capitalist

    Deliberate leg-shooting is not on the table here - that’s a Hollywood fantasy. But tasering definitely should have been used, as well as situational maneuvering to different sides of the perp by each cop and a whole lot more talk-down. These two cops simply used the fact of the threatening situation itself as the sole excuse to fire - and keep on shooting. What is the goal, to kill, of to neutralize the threat? Time was on the cops side. A single shot, then wait, could have been enough. Center of mass doesn’t mean fire soon and empty the magazine. Cops are not badged executioners, and they have volunteered to go looking for trouble. Finding what they are paid to look for and trained to deal with is not a license to kill. Otherwise screw the police altogether - let’s just bring in the military and have them blow away everyone for twitching. After all, people can be dangerous, better safe than sorry, right?

  • Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source

    08/20/2014 5:27:04 PM PDT · 86 of 117
    Talisker to Amity

    I don’t think the cost of emergency medical care is an issue for a cop injured in the line of duty. Plus we would have heard about any injuries from the very beginning.

    The moment the perp doubled back on the cop he deserved to be stopped by whatever means were available. Nothing more is needed to justify the shooting per se. But once the perp went down at a distance, the cop closing in while firing repeatedly to kill him on the ground is a whole ‘nother thing. If that’s what happened, it was murder.