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As H. Clinton would say: “What difference does it make.”

“I’m getting a bit bored with swapping Bible verses.”

Matthew 24:12-14
12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

“You should try verse analysis next, and make it clear what your argument is, and how it fits within the entirety of scripture”

1 Cor. 15:1-3
Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you—unless you believed in vain.
3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures

God’s word needs NO analysis. It needs to be taught, believed, and obeyed.

John 17: 14-19
“. 14 I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 15 I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth. 18 As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.”

“Joh_15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.”

” 15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.”

“Joh 6:64-65 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. (65) And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.”

Philippians 4:9
“The things which you learned and received and heard and saw in me, these do, and the God of peace will be with you.”

“Mat 16:16-17 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. (17) And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.”

Acts 2:21-23
21 And it shall come to pass
That whoever calls on the name of the Lord
Shall be saved.’22 “Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know— 23 Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken[ by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death;

“Act_13:48 ... and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.”

Acts 13:44
44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God. 45 But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy; and contradicting and blaspheming, they opposed the things spoken by Paul. 46 Then Paul and Barnabas grew bold and said, “It was necessary that the word of God should be spoken to you first; but since you reject it, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, behold, we turn to the Gentiles. 47 For so the Lord has commanded us:

‘I have set you as a light to the Gentiles,
That you should be for salvation to the ends of the earth.’”[
48 Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

49 And the word of the Lord was being spread throughout all the region. 50 But the Jews stirred up the devout and prominent women and the chief men of the city, raised up persecution against Paul and Barnabas, and expelled them from their region. 51 But they shook off the dust from their feet against them, and came to Iconium. 52 And the disciples were filled with joy and with the Holy Spirit.”

John 17: 177-18
“ 17 Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth. 18 As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.”

Matthew 13:1-
On the same day Jesus went out of the house and sat by the sea. 2 And great multitudes were gathered together to Him, so that He got into a boat and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.

3 Then He spoke many things to them in parables, saying: “Behold, a sower went out to sow. 4 And as he sowed, some seed fell by the wayside; and the birds came and devoured them. 5 Some fell on stony places, where they did not have much earth; and they immediately sprang up because they had no depth of earth. 6 But when the sun was up they were scorched, and because they had no root they withered away. 7 And some fell among thorns, and the thorns sprang up and choked them. 8 But others fell on good ground and yielded a crop: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. 9 He who has ears to hear, let him hear!”

10 And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?”

11 He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14 And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:

‘Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;
15 For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing,
And their eyes they have closed,
Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I should[a] heal them.’
16 But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear; 17 for assuredly, I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.

18 “Therefore hear the parable of the sower: 19 When anyone hears the word of the kingdom, and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is he who received seed by the wayside. 20 But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; 21 yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles. 22 Now he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful. 23 But he who received seed on the good ground is he who hears the word and understands it, who indeed bears fruit and produces: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.”

Rom. 1:16
16 “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.”

I Cor. 1:18-19
18” For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written:
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,
And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.”

Mark 8:35
35” For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospel’s will save it.”

Luke 4:17-19
“17 And He was handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when He had opened the book, He found the place where it was written:
18 “The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me,
Because He has anointed Me
To preach the gospel to the poor;
He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted,
To proclaim liberty to the captives
And recovery of sight to the blind,
To set at liberty those who are oppressed;
19 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord.”

Rom. 2:15-17
“15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.”

Rom. 10:13-15
13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”14 How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written:“How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace, Who bring glad tidings of good things!”

2 Cor. 4:2-4
“2 But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness nor handling the word of God deceitfully, but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God. 3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.”

2 Cor. 11:3-5
“3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted—you may well put up with it!”

Gal. 1:10-12
“10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.
“But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. 12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.”

Ephesians 1:12-14
“12 that we who first trusted in Christ should be to the praise of His glory.
13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.”

Col. 1:22-24
“22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight— 23 if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister.”

1 Thess. 1:5
“5 For our gospel did not come to you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Spirit and in much assurance, as you know what kind of men we were among you for your sake.”

2 Thess. 1:7-9
“7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,”

2 Thess 2:13-15
“13 But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth, 14 to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle.”

2 Tim. 1:9-11
“9 who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began, 10 but has now been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Jesus Christ, who has abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel, 11 to which I was appointed a preacher, an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.”

Heb. 4:2-3
“2 For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard it. 3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said:
“So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest,’”
although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.”

1 Pet. 4:17-18
“17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God? 18 Now
“If the righteous one is scarcely saved,
Where will the ungodly and the sinner appear?”

John 15:9-17

9 “As the Father loved Me, I also have loved you; abide in My love. 10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

11 “These things I have spoken to you, that My joy may remain in you, and that your joy may be full. 12 This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends. 14 You are My friends if you do whatever I command you. 15 No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I heard from My Father I have made known to you. 16 You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you. 17 These things I command you, that you love one another.

Ezekiel 18:20

The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.

John 6:43-45

43 Jesus therefore answered and said to them, “Do not murmur among yourselves. 44 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’[e] Therefore everyone who has heard and learned[f] from the Father comes to Me.

John 16:12-15

12 “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. 14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. 15 All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.[c]

You’ll get NO argument from me. I agree...!

“But they could give a flying rat’s rearend about that. They’re doing it and going to keep doing it. SCOTUS is corrupted. We’re screwed as a Nation.”

Amen...!

The government ceased to care about the Bill of Rights and the Constitution years ago...!

Amen...! The rest are apostates...!

AGREE...!

LOL...! I ain’t going there....!!!!! But, I do know what u meant....!

...and yet Catholics voted for him in droves....!

Matt. 24:36
“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven,but My Father only.”

Matt. 42-44
“Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.”

John 17:17
“Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth.”

Isa. 5:20
“Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,who put darkness for light and light for darkness,who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.”

Matt. 12:33-37
“Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by its fruit. Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”

Thomas Jefferson
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

James 1:23
“For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:”

“Communist in the Thick of Immigration” Reform” Movement”

Communist are “thick” in government period. Both parties.

Bingo.....! And, as such can be replaced.....!

Is O’Reilly still on television...? lol Haven’t watched Bill in ages....!

“2012’s College grads land in minimum wage jobs”

Welcome to the world of liberal democrats...!

“We have a compromised Chief Justice, too. Either he was lying about his judicial philosophy all along or he’s being blackmailed either on his sexuality or on a questionable adoption (and all need not be mutually exclusive).”

Or...., he may just be an out and out communist...!

He has demonstrated that he has NO honor, he has NO understanding of the constitution, and he has a leftist agenda he wants to implement.

“We have a POS POTUS that violates the constitution daily and a totally useless congress that fails to do anything about it.”

Amen...!

That’s just exactly what Justice Roberts and four other traitors on the supreme court said.

“don’t need no stinking constitution”, we “supreme” we make ‘da laws round hea”

That boys “bout as sharp as a bowling ball”....!

Pot calling the kettle black...!

“Jesus died on the cross for them as much as He did for me.”

Faith without obedience is a dead faith.....!

James 2:14

“”Obamacare expenditures are built into the Current Services Baseline which, if there is no agreed upon Congressional budget, automatically funds expenditures. > So long as the Senate and the House do not agree upon a budget — and the appropriation bills are not signed by the President — Obamacare is on autopilot and there is little the House can do about it.

Other than shut down the government — which the ‘Pubbies are not prepared to do — because they can’t trust the President to manage the money and not default on our debt (or cease writing Social Security checks or cease paying the military their wages, etc.)

The fact that the Democrat Senate has not brought forth a budget for four years is not by accident. They knew they would lose the House in 2010, so they set up a circumstance that essentially chained the Republican House to the status quo ante.””

The Republicans are gonna have to learn to lead or get out the way. All the things you wrote may or may not but true but that doesn’t matter. The law means absolutely nothing to the communist, liberals, progressives and democrats. They just ignore the law of the land and pass what they want and that’s what they did with obamacare.

Obamacare is illegal because it is unconstitutional but that doesn’t matter to these people. They went out and either forced, bribed, threatened, or bought off a corrupt and treasonous sitting supreme court judge. What did the Republican party do....? Absolutely nothing....! They rolled over like a bunch of whipped puppies and did nothing.

Where were the calls from any Republican asking for an investigation into the treasonous acts of justice Roberts and the others on the court that joined him in breaking the supreme law of the land? Not one stepped forward and asked for the resignation of any of those corrupt judges.

What has the leadership and the Republican party done since this “unconstitutional” mandate has been passed and rule upon...? They have done nothing but whine, moan, wring their hands and say we can doe nothing. The law is the law they say.

Well I say we gotta learn to play to win as the communist in the WH do along with their comrades in the democratic party.

Just ignore obamacare, don’t implement it. That’s what obama and the democrats do when the constitution gets in the way. Lets just pretend obamacare doesn’t exist, don’t fund it, ignore the budget that was past that contained obamacare as if it never happened. Let’s play their game. If they wana be a nation of laws, let them obey them. If they can ignore the law and pass and unconstitutional health mandate, we can just ignore it.

The Republican House ought to produce its on budget, bring it forth, present it to the American people. Let if totally ignore and defund obamacare and let the communist in the White House and the congress scream. And, when they do, just ignore them. That’s what they do to Republicans and the American people. The just ignore us, pass what they want, and then find and handful of corrupt treasonous judges to go along with them. We can do the same. If they want to be a nation of laws, then teach them they will not get away with ignoring it. If the wanna be a nation with laws based on men, then let them know we can play the game as good as they can.

My thoughts exactly..!

No.

The Republicans have got to stand and face Obama eventually. If the current leadership continually bends over and continues to kiss Obama’s butt and give him what he wants, soon they will have NO PARTY to lead.

Grow a backbone and close down the government.

No. You misunderstand. The constitution is supreme....! Not men.......! Either we are a nation of laws or we aren’t.

Don’t worry. Under obama and the thugs in the Senate, we are all gonna get a “royal screwing”...!

I really feel for ya...!

forgive my ignorance....!

you aren’t answering the question.

I’ve answered everyone of your questions, you just didn’t like the answers. On the other hand, you haven’t answered one my questions. Care to try now...?

Is the constitution the supreme law of the land or is that power vested in the president and congress?

Are the president and congress above the law (constitution)..?

Do the president and congress have to obey the laws as laid out in the constitution?

Can the president and/or members of congress be removed by force if necessary if they are found guilty of treason?

Can the president and/or members of congress become domestic enemies and be removed from office by force if necessary?

“How do they not fund it...if there is no budget?”

The gov. continues to run on the continuing resolution, all the House had to do was not include obamacare in the CR. The cowards in the House leadership screwed the American people that put them in power and sided with obama.

“Obamacare expenditures are built into the Current Services Baseline which, if there is no agreed upon Congressional budget, automatically funds expenditures. > So long as the Senate and the House do not agree upon a budget — and the appropriation bills are not signed by the President — Obamacare is on autopilot and there is little the House can do about it.”

What fools what sign on to a deal such as that...?

“Other than shut down the government — which the ‘Pubbies are not prepared to do — because they can’t trust the President to manage the money and not default on our debt (or cease writing Social Security checks or cease paying the military their wages, etc.)”

Duh...! Who can trust the Republicans, they are just as corrupt as the dems...! Fine, let him default, then impeach the sorry piece of trash. All the things you mention aren’t negatives, I say let the communist hang himself. I’d dare him to cut those checks.

“The fact that the Democrat Senate has not brought forth a budget for four years is not by accident. They knew they would lose the House in 2010, so they set up a circumstance that essentially chained the Republican House to the status quo ante.”

Sometimes you have to play the hand you are dealt. Grow some and challenge this communist in the WH and those communist in the congress. Surrender is not the answer. Force obama’s hand, force Reid’s hand.

“Yeah, that’s really going to attract businesses and boost the economy. /s”
You forget. Communist detest and have a deep disdain for capitalism. The could care less about attracting business.

I hope the dems tax the idiots in Colorado so hard and heavy that they can’t afford to pay their bills..that would be hilarious.

Just another sick pervert in congress huh...?

“I think the entire “gay” issue could be the wedge we need to set conservatives apart from the Republican herd.”

Republicans would be fools to give up this issue. For conservatives this issue is a winner. I don’t care what the perverted main street media says, most Americans see homos as sexual deviants and are disgusted by their sick behavior.

“Bullshit!! there is no Republican plan to repeal obamacare, secret or not.”

Amen brother...! We have obamacare because the politicians want it..We have a huge deficit because the politicians want it,...We have a huge debt because the politicians want it...We have illegals pouring over the boarder by the millions for one reason and one reason only..., the politicians want it....!

Follow the money.....!!!!

All spending and taxation bills begin in the House. Just don’t fund obamacare..!

Don’t fund it....,quite simple really.

Force the thugs, both republicans and democrats, that want this garbage to defend it in public. Then attack...attack....attack...attack...and then attack some more....!

“Why not NOW!!”

Exactly. We have Obamacare because the elites in both parties wanted it.

The supreme court has been a joke for many, many yrs.

No doubt.

According to law:

Article 2 Section

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High crimes and Misdemeanors.
The Constitution also allows for involuntary removal from office. The President, Vice-President, Cabinet Secretaries, and other executive officers, as well as judges, may be impeached by the House of Representatives and tried in the Senate.
Any official convicted by impeachment is immediately removed from office. The Senate may also choose to bar the removed official from holding any federal office in the future.[21] No other punishments may be inflicted pursuant to the impeachment proceeding, but the convicted party remains liable to trial and punishment in the courts for civil and criminal charges.
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ok, please explain to me the constitutional process by which the military tosses the president and/or members of congress into jail and charges them with treason.

It’s done by law as as proscribed by the constitution. But what you are looking for is called impeachment. Here is a brief explanation:

The Impeachment Process

In the House of Representatives

The House Judiciary Committee decides whether or not to proceed with impeachment. If they do...
The Chairman of the Judiciary Committee will propose a Resolution calling for the Judiciary Committee to begin a formal inquiry into the issue of impeachment.
Based on their inquiry, the Judiciary Committee will send another Resolution to the full House stating that impeachment is warranted and why (the Articles of Impeachment), or that impeachment is not called for.
The Full House (probably operating under special floor rules set by the House Rules Committee) will debate and vote on each Article of Impeachment.
Should any one of the Articles of Impeachment be approved by a simple majority vote, the President will be “impeached.” However, being impeached is sort of like being indicted of a crime. There still has to be a trial, which is where the US Senate comes in.
In the Senate

The Articles of Impeachment are received from the House.
The Senate formulates rules and procedures for holding a trial.

“. . . and the supreme law of the land says that the president is the commander in chief of the armed forces, and that congress has exclusive authority to declare war.”

We aren’t talking about declaring war, were talking about presidents and congressmen who snub their noses at the constitution.

“the ONLY way for the military to imprison the democratically elected civilian leadership is to literally shred the constitution.”

That is not correct. Every person that serves or has served in the military takes an oath to protect and defend the constitution against ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. Domestic can mean presidents and congressman..! They aren’t supreme, the law is.....!

“it really is that simple. you can’t have this both ways.”

No. I just don’t agree with you that men are supreme and not the law...

“unless they interfere with voter fraud.”

BINGO...!

Amen...!