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Posts by Peter Libra

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  • Ferguson protests jump to London

    11/27/2014 9:57:06 AM PST · 10 of 19
    Peter Libra to SoFloFreeper
    No mention of the beheading of nice guy Drummer Rigby, who had offended no one in any way.

    The sycophantic stupid knee jerk hypocrites!

  • [Live Thread] Grand jury reaches decision in case of Ferguson officer [Announcement: 9 pm EST]

    11/24/2014 11:17:12 AM PST · 77 of 2,618
    Peter Libra to rdl6989
    A word comes to mind here -for me anyway.

    OCHLOCRACY

    Using a rough definition of this latin term is simply the rule of the mob. That rule supersedes the authority that is established and makes it's own rules. If opposed it then mostly uses violence.

    Another simpler name is.

    MOBOCRACY.

    Vis the threats regarding possible conviction of O J Simpson.

  • Hitler & Fate

    11/24/2014 10:54:53 AM PST · 74 of 76
    Peter Libra to Flag_This
    On the reparation demands by France at the end of the Franco-Prussian War 1871.

    Your point well taken by me and indeed I had not done my homework. I guess the epic musical drama Les Miserables, partly about the Communards and their insurgence in Paris, had me not thinking. The revolutionary forces had a free reign, since a hundred thousand French troops were prisoners of war at Sedan. The Germans hurriedly released them with their small arms. The Germans were wary of any worker uprising as preached by their own Karl Marx. This you will know.

    I smile sadly at the ironies of history. Blucher and the Germans saving Wellington at Waterloo 1815. Later the British and French locked in a death struggle in France against Germany. 1914.

  • Hitler & Fate

    11/23/2014 8:50:12 PM PST · 55 of 76
    Peter Libra to Flag_This
    The whole World War 1 thing probably did more to do with Hitler becoming Hitler than this did.

    Agreed. Also the demand for reparations by the French sundered the fragile economy of post war Germany. The industrial heartland of Germany was actually occupied by French and British troops 1928/9. This was to enforce reparations.

    I would like to mention in support of your statement, of the Allied blockade. My grandfather in the Royal East Kent Regt. spent over three years 1915/18,as a German prisoner of war. His health was damaged through inadequate feeding. I learned the German population starved also and there was massive suffering. I have no hard feelings now, it was the blockade of Germany by the Royal Navy.

    America did not make the same awful mistake after WW2. The war criminals were dealt with and the civilian population were helped recover by massive aid.

  • The Truth Behind JFK's Assassination

    11/22/2014 7:35:31 PM PST · 57 of 161
    Peter Libra to Monty22002; DJ Taylor
    I have no doubt Oswald did it alone with that bolt rifle.

    I have the same conclusion in this matter. I do respect anyone that states a cogent view as to the contrary. Although it might be somewhat debatable to use a fiction/fact novel as a pointer, I enjoyed this book.

    LIBRA.
    Don Delillo
    Viking Press.1988

    What points to Oswald's guilt for me is merely his conduct just after the shooting. In come the police to the main floor of the repository. Oswald calmly draws a can of pop from a vending machine. Obviously this diverts attention, as his supervisor mentions that Oswald works here. Oswald does not utter a peep, no questioning as to "what in the heck is going on"

    Oswald walks away without so much as asking whether he should. He walks and finally enters a a shoe store and is not really interested in purchasing. He glances out of the window at police cars zooming by. He does not say a word. Then there is the death of Officer Tippet, who killed him.?

    Forgive the ramble but this stuff has been bottled up inside me for years. I remember that awful day.

  • Heartwarming Video: Canadian hockey fans finish Star Spangled Banner after singer’s mic cuts out

    11/21/2014 9:40:28 PM PST · 47 of 50
    Peter Libra to Peter Libra
    My bad.

    "At the Rocket's Red Glare"

  • Heartwarming Video: Canadian hockey fans finish Star Spangled Banner after singer’s mic cuts out

    11/21/2014 6:43:40 PM PST · 43 of 50
    Peter Libra to SeekAndFind
    I cannot think why, but this old lad who is well aware of the history of Fort Henry, got teary eyed. This is of the failed attempt of my countrymen to fire the fort's installations, with the Congreve Rockets. "At the Rockets first glare" and so on. Sir William Pitt was against the Germanic King of England and spoke out against that war against American independence.

    A bit of a ramble, please excuse me. We have been battling vile snow conditions at the Ontario/Michigan border. All calm now and exhausted Yoopers and Canucks are relaxing. I have a Wiser's Deluxe at hand. Anyway, congratulations to the tuneful Canadian fans. We of the English speaking peoples must stick together- else hang separately.

    Ok, fifty bucks coming up for FR.

  • Rosetta scientist Dr Matt Taylor apologises for ‘offensive’ shirt

    11/15/2014 10:09:41 AM PST · 32 of 36
    Peter Libra to moovova
    Apparently the offended don't watch TV...or go to the beach...or even the local mall.

    Agreed. It seems that there are these Orwellian types out there, just looking for a vulnerable target. The feigned "outrage" then becomes more serious than an unwise off hand statement - or such as this shirt.

    To add to the mix I cannot miss reviewing the coverage of Kim Kardashian. Just where are the screams about this astute business woman? (Laughs)

  • Black Lab dog body slides in the snow

    11/14/2014 8:16:16 PM PST · 12 of 30
    Peter Libra to Perdogg

    Ah dogs!
    Gods gift to the human race. Love my German Shepard/Golden Labrador. Lovely stuff!

  • Fawn Liebowitz Obit [Rumor]

    11/09/2014 2:19:43 PM PST · 73 of 84
    Peter Libra to Lurking Libertarian; Larry Lucido
    The whole article is a tasteless joke.....

    Yes it is. I did do some research of the real Fawn Hall and she listed a house for sale at $2.5 million in 2007. A widow, she lives well and quietly these days.

    I do not want to carp, but the article does not seem to be first page material. Maybe just me though.

  • 1838: First photograph of a human

    11/07/2014 6:26:44 PM PST · 62 of 100
    Peter Libra to cynwoody
    Your post #45 of 1848 Cincinnati given a good look by me. It is interesting to note the advance in the techniques of photography in ten years. How clearly defined are the images. Same thing with computers. How glad I am that the unsung heroes who refine and embellish the original breakthrough do their stuff.
  • Four men arrested for allegedly plotting a terror attack to kill Queen Elizabeth

    11/07/2014 5:45:34 PM PST · 19 of 28
    Peter Libra to Beowulf9
    "God Save the Queen!"

    Looks like maybe he did, too:),

    I totally agree here and am pleased that no one here believes that such a person should suffer hate. She, though Head of State, was not empowered to make decisions in matters of life and death.

    I would like to quote something I read about the arrest of the "Yorkshire Ripper". He had murdered unfortunate women he picked up in his truck. He defied detection by Britain's finest. An ordinary policeman on patrol got him on a hunch. "Good old fashioned coppering" was the general consensus.

    Yep, chalk one up for the Bobbies.

  • The moor the merrier: More than 200 acres of 'magical' heathland that inspired Thomas Hardy saved

    11/06/2014 9:24:20 AM PST · 6 of 6
    Peter Libra to C19fan
    Thanks for this informative post and Daily Mail link. Quite by chance I was taken to live in Dorset as a child, my father being in the County regiment. I remember the sudden fading of the light on the heath at Poundbury. Scared me and I ran fast to the barracks. Hardy wrote of this strange trick of nature on Egdon Heath.

    Also it was mentioned in the novel "Far From The Madding Crowd". I tried to have my two daughters called Eustacia and Thomasin after the heroines in "The Return Of The Native". I had to settle for this being officially entered as their middle names.

  • Kaci Hickox--Infectious People Lose Some Rights!

    11/01/2014 10:58:37 AM PDT · 14 of 33
    Peter Libra to Sean_Anthony
    Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.

    President John F. Kennedy.

    Ok. so it did seem heavy handed and traumatic for this lady for three days. When she got a better deal in the warmth and comfort of a residence, she could have thought it over. For the good of all and peace of mind, she could have then complained freely. Worked off her angst in that way.

    This while taking the quarantine. After all, three weeks in a comfortable hospital bed would be even more of an inconvenience. This for the average citizen. She knew that.

  • Ebola: 10 People in Michigan Being Monitored for Symptoms

    10/29/2014 7:13:45 PM PDT · 14 of 32
    Peter Libra to Nifster
    We used to quarantine people routinely who came this country to be sure they were disease free (what do you think Ellis Island was used for?)

    Sometimes the draconian decisions that must be made are sadly necessary. I read of the entries of persons and their accounts at Ellis Island. Tuberculosis would, if detected send a person back to their own country.

    One account had a man being told prior to landing that he must not cough. He had TB. He could not stop the coughing and dived out of the ship and was apprehended. He was making for shore. Sad though it is, one could imagine such a person boarding with a hard working family. The poor kids could then be smitten with this dread disease. His entry would have made America all the worse.

    Some authorities have to make awesome decisions and then get vilified and it is not fair. (Excuse the rant).

  • VIDEO: Watch What Happens When Muslim Filmmaker in Canada Tries to Document “Islamophobia”...

    10/29/2014 5:20:14 PM PDT · 19 of 22
    Peter Libra to Peter Libra; walford
    Correction.

    Whoops! I give "This Hour Has 22 Minutes" a pass. The program is "Just For Laughs". One segment saw a old pervert type man tweak women's buttocks on a sand beach. They were lying face down. Amazingly, the women seemed to be bemused when informed it was the television.

    How they (participant and crew) got away with indecent assault is beyond me. Never watched it since.

  • VIDEO: Watch What Happens When Muslim Filmmaker in Canada Tries to Document “Islamophobia”...

    10/29/2014 5:07:04 PM PDT · 17 of 22
    Peter Libra to walford
    I may be wrong but.....

    It all looked a bit too theatrical to me. Seemed as if persons knew it was another Canadian television hidden camera job. Marketplace uses this to out businesses, that may be gouging the customer. A simply awful hidden camera program, This Hour Has 22 Minutes I think is another one. It exists to provoke unsuspecting citizens.

    Just my view here.

  • 75-Year-Old Man Who Told Airport Security “I am not Muslim am I?” Escapes 6 Months in Jail ( UK )

    10/28/2014 10:16:37 AM PDT · 8 of 8
    Peter Libra to Peter Libra
    Whoops, my bad.

    Incharitable

    It is the correct spelling as was used then by Shakespeare.

  • 75-Year-Old Man Who Told Airport Security “I am not Muslim am I?” Escapes 6 Months in Jail ( UK )

    10/28/2014 10:13:20 AM PDT · 7 of 8
    Peter Libra to george76
    Enough to send shivers down my spine. Almost like an Orwellian nightmare from which one mercifully wakes up. I have a quote that came to mind.

    Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.
    Euripides born 486 BC.

    I would throw in a little Shakespeare from the comparative freedom of Canada. For those involved in this swinish overkill.

    A pox o' your throat, you bawling, blasphemous incharititable dog.
    Sebastian in The Tempest. William Shakespeare.

    They know who they are.

  • O Canada at Penguins-Flyers (Tribute to our northern neighbors)

    10/22/2014 7:07:51 PM PDT · 16 of 25
    Peter Libra to Peter Libra
    Name of the redoubtable tugboat.

    Barbara Foss.

  • O Canada at Penguins-Flyers (Tribute to our northern neighbors)

    10/22/2014 7:05:32 PM PDT · 14 of 25
    Peter Libra to CedarDave
    Yes indeed and the value of moral support cannot be underestimated. I take the chance of an off topic ramble here. A Russian Simusar freighter with tons of bunker oil and diesel oil lost power about three days ago. It drifted near Canada's west coast. Leaving Everett, Washington it was bound for Russia.

    Canadian and American coast guard vessels and others joined in the approach of a pending ecological disaster. An American tugboat hauled it to Prince Rupert, British Columbia and it was secured safely.

    Great stuff! The unsung heroes once again go into action.

  • Is Canadian parliament shooting a terrorist attack?

    10/22/2014 11:23:21 AM PDT · 48 of 57
    Peter Libra to PJ-Comix; Peter ODonnell
    fwiw.

    I had seen the interviews on television stating that Rouleau the convert to Islam, was previously counselled by police. Later he ran down two soldiers in Quebec as everyone knows.

    It was stated the authorities had 90 suspected would be radical Islamists on their lists. The statement was made that the law does not allow arrests for one's wacky views. Rouleau was number 90. It will be interesting to find out if the Parliamentary terrorists are on that list. Still more interesting if drastic action will be taken against these remaining psychopathic individuals.

  • Shooters at Parliament Buildings in Ottawa, Canada

    10/22/2014 9:32:36 AM PDT · 29 of 42
    Peter Libra to Entropy Squared
    Canadian television journalists repeating that no known connection to terrorism is proved. Just heard it for the sixth time.

    What is the problem with these people? Methinks they protest too much.

  • Suspect in attack on 2 soldiers in Quebec 'had become radicalized': PMO

    10/21/2014 10:44:59 AM PDT · 20 of 21
    Peter Libra to Gay State Conservative; A Formerly Proud Canadian
    Soldier hit by vehicle has died. Perpetrator known to have been put on no fly list and passport confiscated. Was on face book with a headscarf mask jihad style. Prime Minister Harper has called it terrorism and no obfuscation.

    I can recall the 1941 film called The 49th Parallel. It somehow gave the impression that the dividing line between the two countries was this parallel. General impressions way back can give rise to mistakes as I have found out to my embarrassment.

    Anyway a huge propaganda film. Created by Pressburger and Powell to bring US opinion to support Britain WW2. Seven bad Nazi U-Boat crew and one "good, anti-Nazi German". Hiking across Canada. Of course the attack on Pearl Harbor did bring the USA into the war, not British propaganda.

  • Suspect in attack on 2 soldiers in Quebec 'had become radicalized': PMO

    10/20/2014 7:10:06 PM PDT · 16 of 21
    Peter Libra to xp38
    Just in:

    Man converted to Islam this year. Neighbours concerned over his attitude of late. Conservative MP questioned the Prime Minister on the happening. I think we are going to see a red flag warning about our military. Already being called terrorism by some.

    One less terrorist in any case.

  • CNN Columnist: Americans don't care about Ebola in Africa, because they're racists

    10/20/2014 6:46:37 PM PDT · 37 of 50
    Peter Libra to Sean_Anthony
    Could this man be that kind of so called journalist who deliberately "pushes buttons" to make people angry?. I say this because on doing a little research the man has opined on dogs.He said that since many people eat pigs, they should eat dogs (probably choked himself with laughter at this provocation).

    I remember the six million circulation Daily Mirror in England in the 1950's. It was found that the way to be read is to be so provocative- it angered the readers. Boring them with platitudes was said to be a sure loser. It was also found that the journalist of that era hardly believed a damn thing they wrote, in some cases. Laughed themselves silly- which was not hard.

  • Suspect in attack on 2 soldiers in Quebec 'had become radicalized': PMO

    10/20/2014 6:18:49 PM PDT · 12 of 21
    Peter Libra to xp38
    I have the CBC report stating:

    Martin Rouleau- aged 25 years. Said known to police and became radicalised.

    Prayers for the two soldiers, harming nobody and cut down. This cowardly swine is well dead.

  • Ebola-linked cruise ship passenger cleared; hospital apologizes for mistakes

    10/19/2014 11:17:29 AM PDT · 22 of 25
    Peter Libra to Cvengr
    Wow!

    Fortunately I had heard Richard Burton's reading from the novel Under The Volcano by Malcolm Lowry. Nice to learn of another culture's view of death and the departed. A celebration no less.

    I will stick to my row of plastic pumpkins lit up at night and a few store bought Halloween gargoyles.(Laughs)

  • Ebola-linked cruise ship passenger cleared; hospital apologizes for mistakes

    10/19/2014 9:53:37 AM PDT · 14 of 25
    Peter Libra to kushnejz; SeekAndFind
    You pose a very cogent question here regarding the how and why.

    I think I stumbled on the answer elsewhere. It seemed that the CDC themselves e-mailed the authority on board the ship. They wrote that although a person had worked in the Dallas laboratory and was a passenger, do not worry. Absolutely no chance of their being infected. Carry on and enjoy your cruise etc.

    Oh boy!

  • Ferguson resident: “There’s going to be hell to pay” if businesses don’t rebuild

    10/05/2014 8:53:05 PM PDT · 88 of 93
    Peter Libra to Forward the Light Brigade
    Watts is still full of closed stores in LA-and that riot was decades ago.

    I recall Rush Limbaugh on the subject at the time. Rush stated that there were women who had benefit cheques and were actually crying. He said that the establishments knew them and honored their cheques, were now destroyed.

    Surely someone must realize this conduct is the height of stupidity. Black leaders must step up to the plate here. They would be on solid ground to urge restraint.

  • The Antichrist and the Muslim Mahdi (Part 2)

    10/05/2014 7:43:03 PM PDT · 17 of 21
    Peter Libra to Pontiac
    Nice to have your remarks.

    Off topic, for which I hope to be excused, but one of my favourite books is.

    Blacklisted By History
    The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy
    And His Fight Against America's Enemies
    Author: M. Stanton Evans

    I took the liberty of noting your about page.

  • The Antichrist and the Muslim Mahdi (Part 2)

    10/05/2014 11:27:52 AM PDT · 12 of 21
    Peter Libra to Kaslin
    Fwiw.

    I believe that there are at least ten known persons called the "Mahdi". The most notable was Mohammed Ahmed al Mahdi (1844-1885). He swept the Sudan clear of Egyptian rule. His fanatics killed General Gordon, who was an adviser to the defenders of Khartoum.

    After his triumph, he died of typhus. A magnificent tomb was built for his remains. Herbert, Lord Kitchener, with the British army and Egyptian allies, defeated the Mahdi's successor. Kitchener's men destroyed the tomb. They desecrated the remains of the Mahdi. They threw the remains in the River Nile. His scull was sent to Cairo.

    A successor was quickly chosen. He was the "Khalifa". Abullah Ibn Mohammed. Born 1846 and died fighting the British 1899. The slaughter by American made machine guns of the fanatical dervish at Omdurman 1898, is legendary stuff.

    The tomb has been rebuilt and is a tourist attraction.

  • Police Locate Subject Of Unauthorized Entry At Moore HS

    10/01/2014 5:22:08 PM PDT · 20 of 31
    Peter Libra to kjam22
    It could be a war of nerves by the sociopathic ones. Persons will recall following 9/11, various groups of muslim airplane passengers in the USA. They changed seats and chanted prayers. Then some of these people sued the airline for the drastic measures taken.

    Up at the Great Lakes between the twin cities of Ontario and Northern Michigan, is a connecting bridge over the river. Arabic men took videos underneath the Canadian side of the bridge. Alerts all the way to the American customs officers. Nothing could be done, we were told. They were from Dearborn, Michigan.

    This was when the whole country was just aware of the attack on the Twin Towers.

  • Melissa Klein, Anti-Gay Baker, Cries At Values Voter Summit Over Business Closing

    09/29/2014 6:34:32 PM PDT · 38 of 48
    Peter Libra to Nachum
    This woman deserves our support and respect.

    From an older generation who could never quite accept open blatant homosexuality, I adopted a live and let live philosophy. It is easier that way.

    I would think that certain people like these two, will only breed fear. Fear that may turn to hate. Too bad there is not a support fund. I am good for a 100 dollars.

  • I do, I do, I do! Joyous George Clooney and Amul Alamuddin tie the knot in front of his Armada ....

    09/27/2014 5:42:21 PM PDT · 76 of 88
    Peter Libra to Peter Libra
    Whoops!

    I feel good about a marriage ceremony- any marriage ceremony. Between Man and Woman, of course.

  • I do, I do, I do! Joyous George Clooney and Amul Alamuddin tie the knot in front of his Armada ....

    09/27/2014 5:27:53 PM PDT · 75 of 88
    Peter Libra to Forward the Light Brigade
    Good luck to the couple!

    Yes, married for 53 years myself to my socialist spouse, bless her. It must be the Indian summer up in Great Lakes country just across from Michigan. Things are good in some parts of our world. Just glorious weather- people soaking it all up.

    Somehow feel very positive about a marriage ceremony- any marriage ceremony.

  • BREAKING: Muslims Shout “Praise Allah!” Surround OK Police Following Press Conference on Beheading

    09/26/2014 8:55:59 PM PDT · 149 of 160
    Peter Libra to RightGeek
    Your post #61.

    Lovely stuff! For the lads in the ranks it would be the stentorian voice.

    Steady in the ranks.
    Do not fire until told.
    Open fire.
    Fix bayonets.

    The only respect these chanting people have is for ruthless strength when it is applied against them. Time will tell.

  • FBI Identifies 'Jihadi John'

    09/26/2014 9:01:02 AM PDT · 22 of 27
    Peter Libra to Adder
    Your post #17 appears to be on the money as to who the swine is.

    I had seen the guilty plea of his father Adel Abdul Bary in an American court. This 53 year old man fled his native Egypt and was given a death sentence in absentia. He got political asylum in England and a expensive house in West London. His gift to that country was to plot terrorism on American embassies abroad. His son was born there in 1990. What a beauty he turned out to be!

    The authorities began extradition proceedings 1998 for the father. Crazy, but he held them off for 14 years. Rights lawyers no doubt. Finally he was sent to the USA. The Egyptians want him dead. What a fool!

  • Alibaba Founder Jack Ma: If you’re still poor at 35, you deserve it!

    09/24/2014 9:42:42 AM PDT · 82 of 86
    Peter Libra to fso301; cynwoody
    Both posts to me appreciated and well taken by me.

    I will plead old age and recall the film I saw in hard scrabble England WW2.

    Citizen Kane

    Orson Welles did a masterful job on wealth and greed. Based on a Mr. Hearst, we are told.

  • Alibaba Founder Jack Ma: If you’re still poor at 35, you deserve it!

    09/23/2014 8:10:49 PM PDT · 23 of 86
    Peter Libra to SeekAndFind
    The true test of what this gentleman says, is whether he is a truly happy human being.

    At this point in time, few people really know whether he is happy.

  • Police: Canadian woman arrested at JFK with guns, drugs in checked baggage

    09/23/2014 10:22:10 AM PDT · 53 of 53
    Peter Libra to MomwithHope
    While all the cops were dealing with her, what else happened that was overlooked .

    A perceptive comment here. I somehow felt uneasy about the whole thing. Perhaps it was the look on the young woman's face. Sort of looked like a deer caught in the headlights. More to this than meets the eye.

    Although up here in Canada, my newspaper of choice is not the Toronto Star, I will keep an eye out. Give them their due, leftists though they are, they can still do a good story.

    PS. Levin rocks! (laughs).

  • Police: Canadian woman arrested at JFK with guns, drugs in checked baggage

    09/22/2014 3:57:53 PM PDT · 51 of 53
    Peter Libra to Bratch
    Your post much appreciated and I just wonder about how the young woman got to be in such a fix. I said to my wife, out of the blue, maybe she was a mule.

    I will follow the case carefully and see just how she got to where she is.

  • Police: Canadian woman arrested at JFK with guns, drugs in checked baggage

    09/22/2014 1:45:15 PM PDT · 48 of 53
    Peter Libra to ScottinVA
    Let me guess... al-amish, right?

    Toronto Star has her picture. She is a young woman of pleasing looks facially and would be described as being of African heritage.

    She sure needs a good lawyer.

  • Canadian government begins invalidating passports of citizens who have left to join extremist groups

    09/20/2014 9:43:13 PM PDT · 43 of 50
    Peter Libra to Peter Libra

    Correction.
    Alizadeh gets 6 years off his 24 years, for 4 years custody awaiting trial.

  • Canadian government begins invalidating passports of citizens who have left to join extremist groups

    09/20/2014 9:23:10 PM PDT · 42 of 50
    Peter Libra to fanfan
    Well done Canadian authorities!

    In the meantime, Hiva Mohammad Alizadeh has pleaded guilty in Ottawa to terrorist activities. He is a Canadian citizen who had gained instruction in making an explosive apparatus to use against Canada. He received instruction on a trip to Afghanistan and Pakistan. His apartment was found containing various items for explosive devices. He got 24 years prison time. His 6 years previous time in jail awaiting trial, gets him over 4 years off.

    He said he was sorry and wanted to be deprogrammed from his fanaticism

  • ‘I Will Not Settle'

    09/19/2014 2:01:22 PM PDT · 12 of 19
    Peter Libra to Kaslin
    A highly interesting post. I note that the future loyal American citizen by choice, got to Liverpool, England. This ties in with a documentary of a huge clearing agency there. It became flooded with refugees early in the last century. I take pride in the fact that so many got on their way to America.

    It is curious that the paths of our ancestors that were taken, have a direct influence over our own lives.

    Such are the fates!

  • In Scotland, 'Aye' Means No to England

    09/16/2014 10:13:18 AM PDT · 26 of 65
    Peter Libra to Kaslin
    Some very interesting reading and deserves thought.

    Prime Minister Cameron has just announced considerable increases in autonomy and payments for a "no vote". I did a little research and confess I am out of touch with my native country, England.

    Some Wikipedia work included here. After 292 years of direct rule from London over Scotland, they were granted a referendum. It took place in September 1997. The question was straight to the point. Should there be a Scottish Parliament?. Followed by Should there not be a Scottish Parliament?. There was an overwhelming vote for a Scottish Parliament.

    In 1999, an immense building plan took place in Edinburgh. A Spanish architect was commissioned. After five years and four months, the building was opened by the Queen. There were 106 Scottish members of parliament (MSPs) within and it has a 1000 staff. It was said to deal with domestic affairs.

    The bureaucracy there, seems no different than in many other countries. A look at the new parliament building using Wikipedia, is worth while. Post modern and one must take their own view. It cost 414 million pounds. An independent Scotland might be at the mercy of the bureaucrats, they might spend the money like there is no tomorrow.

  • The rise of Scotland the terrible

    09/13/2014 10:50:04 AM PDT · 50 of 63
    Peter Libra to Peter Libra

    Whoops! My bad. Sorry.

  • The rise of Scotland the terrible

    09/13/2014 10:48:53 AM PDT · 49 of 63
    Peter Libra to Alberta's Child
    Your post brings to mind what we Canadians went through with the referendum vote. 1980 with a 106 word question, Quebec voted 59% to 40% to reject separation. In 1995 with a 43 word question the vote was 50% to 49% to again reject separation.

    I remember the jeers of the separatists saying that "Next time we will go". It seems to me that Canada was set up for a blatant threat. It then followed that billions of dollars were poured into Quebec by a Federal government. Government offices were moved from Ontario to Quebec. Our taxes are processed at a small city in Quebec, hometown of former Prime Minister Chretien. Thousands of civil service jobs created in Quebec.

    Separatists have laughed and jeered at the gullibility of Canadians. An urban legend does exist that the second vote was actually for separation. It was manipulated to give a razor thin margin against separation.

    Who knows?

  • The rise of Scotland the terrible

    09/13/2014 10:47:07 AM PDT · 48 of 63
    Peter Libra to Alberta's Child
    Your post brings to mind what we Canadians went through with the referendum vote. 1980 with a 106 word question, Quebec voted 59% to 40% to reject separation. In 1995 with a 43 word question the vote was 50% to 49% to again reject separation.

    I remember the jeers of the separatists saying that "Next time we will go". It seems to me that Canada was set up for a blatant threat. It then followed that billions of dollars were poured into Quebec by a Federal government. Government offices were moved from Ontario to Quebec. Our taxes are processed at a small city in Quebec, hometown of former Prime Minister Chretien. Thousands of civil service jobs created in Quebec.

    Separatists have laughed and jeered at the gullibility of Canadians. An urban legend does exist that the second vote was actually for separation. It was manipulated to give a razor thin margin against separation.

    Who knows?