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  • Pediatricians Have the Right to Ask About Guns

    07/30/2014 1:12:09 PM PDT · 65 of 167
    Mr Rogers to Q-ManRN

    Does this pediatrician also ask teens about their driver training? Does he ask about swimming lessons? Does he discuss the danger of lightening, or hiking in the desert without enough water, or any one of 10,000 other NON-MEDICAL ways of getting hurt?

    I doubt it. This is about gun-grabbing, and trying to shame people into getting rid of their guns.

    Now, if he asked because he wanted to recommend a high capacity 45 automatic, or to discuss the advantages of shotguns vs repeating rifles vs handguns for keeping safe in the home, then I’d believe him...

  • San Antonio police mistake photographer for fleeing drug suspect, beat him silly

    07/29/2014 4:11:28 PM PDT · 28 of 131
    Mr Rogers to stanne

    “But... this guy’s wife is a doctor and he doesn’t know enough post 9 11 not to go around taking pix of buildings.”

    Since when are we not allowed to take pictures of buildings? 911? Give me a break. If it is in public, I can photograph it.

  • Trendy Chipotle burritos show how pricing power belongs to the hip

    07/29/2014 6:35:44 AM PDT · 4 of 84
    Mr Rogers to C19fan

    As a spice, I like chipotle. As a food chain, not so much.

  • Comic goes tragic: What jughead decided to make Archie a political tool?

    07/29/2014 6:31:07 AM PDT · 31 of 38
    Mr Rogers to Sooth2222

    Based on storylines, I have to assume there are no heterosexuals reading comics any more.

    “Could a transgender Incredible Hulk be too far behind? “

    More likely a homosexual Hulk, and the heterosexuals won’t like what he does when he gets mad.

    Comics...now written and sold to the 2%, plus another 1% who live in their parents’ basement.

  • Two Former McDonald's Executives Are Leading A Fast-Food Revolution

    07/28/2014 9:35:30 PM PDT · 3 of 48
    Mr Rogers to Citizen Zed
    Because this is what I want in fast food...not!

  • BREAKING: Kanye West Announces He’ll Leave The United States Because Of Racism

    07/28/2014 7:13:22 PM PDT · 106 of 217
    Mr Rogers to softwarecreator

    I’ll pay for Michelle to join him!

  • Why do Protestant lay people hate clergy?

    07/28/2014 12:30:51 PM PDT · 622 of 969
    Mr Rogers to editor-surveyor; CynicalBear

    Given how ridiculous your claim is, save it. No one is going to believe you. You might as well post positive, Internet-quality proof that the moon landing was faked...

  • Why do Protestant lay people hate clergy?

    07/27/2014 8:54:58 PM PDT · 526 of 969
    Mr Rogers to editor-surveyor

    “But the real manipulation was when the NT writings were translated from Hebrew, to Aramaic, and then centuries later, to Greek.”

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Why do Protestant lay people hate clergy?

    07/27/2014 6:17:29 PM PDT · 457 of 969
    Mr Rogers to af_vet_1981

    “I conclude from these comments that modern Baptists do not believe the same doctrine of Inerrancy of the Scriptures as their Independent Fundamental Baptist brethren.”

    Well, if they believe the KJV is the Inerrant Scripture...then no, the vast majority of Baptists think they are nuts.

    If they believe the Catholic scholar Erasmus was the pinnacle of textual reconstruction, even ‘tho he uses the Vulgate to substitute when he did not have Greek texts, then most Baptists think they are nuts.

    If they think “Thou shalt not kill” is one of the 10 Commandments, then they are nuts.

    If someone exalts the traditions of man as ruling scripture, instead of scripture ruling traditions...then they are nuts. Sola Scriptura does not mean we believe in using bad Greek texts, or in deliberately mistranslating the Bible to support a political belief. It does mean that if we have to decide if infant baptism is valid, we look in the scriptures...and don’t find it. Instead, we find passages that make the idea of infant baptism ridiculous. And we reject priests offering a continuous sacrifice of Jesus in ‘the Eucharist’ because Jesus said do this in remembrance of me, not do this as part of a perpetual sacrifice of me.

  • Why do Protestant lay people hate clergy?

    07/27/2014 5:03:16 PM PDT · 429 of 969
    Mr Rogers to G Larry; MamaB

    You ARE aware that John 6 took place after the feeding of the 5000, and not at Passover? Why do you read the Lord’s Supper into what happened long before it, and ignore what Jesus said DURING His institution of the Lord’s Supper:

    “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.”

  • Why do Protestant lay people hate clergy?

    07/27/2014 4:41:30 PM PDT · 420 of 969
    Mr Rogers to editor-surveyor; af_vet_1981

    “Next, what is meant by the term, “Received Text”? This name was first applied to a printed Greek text only as late as 1633, or almost 120 years after the first published Greek New Testament appeared in 1516. In 1633, the Elzevirs of Leyden published the second edition of their Greek text, and that text contained the publisher’s “blurb”: textum ergo habes, nunc ab omnibus receptum, or, “therefore you have the text now received by all,” from which the term textus receptus, or received text was taken, and applied collectively and retroactively to the series of published Greek New Testaments extending from 1516 to 1633 and beyond.

    Most notable among the many editors of Greek New Testaments in this period were Erasmus (5 editions: 1516, 1519, 1522, 1527, 1535), Robert Estienne a.k.a. Robertus Stephanus (4 editions: 1546, 1549, 1550, 1551), Theodore de Beza (9 editions between 1565 and 1604), and the Elzevirs (3 editions: 1624,1633, 1641).

    These many Greek texts display a rather close general uniformity, a uniformity based on the fact that all these texts are more or less reprints of the text(s) edited by Erasmus, with only minor variations. These texts were not independently compiled by the many different editors on the basis of close personal examination of numerous Greek manuscripts, but are genealogically-related.

    Proof of this is to be found in a number of “unique” readings in Erasmus’ texts, that is, readings which are found in no known Greek manuscript but which are nevertheless found in the editions of Erasmus. One of these is the reading “book of life” in Revelation 22:19. All known Greek manuscripts here read “tree of life” instead of “book of life” as in the textus receptus. Where did the reading “book of life” come from? When Erasmus was compiling his text, he had access to only one manuscript of Revelation, and it lacked the last six verses, so he took the Latin Vulgate and back-translated from Latin to Greek. Unfortunately, the copy of the Vulgate he used read “book of life,” unlike any Greek manuscript of the passage, and so Erasmus introduced a “unique” Greek reading into his text.

    Since the first and only “source” for this reading in Greek is the printed text of Erasmus, any Greek New Testament that agrees with Erasmus here must have been simply copied from his text. The fact that all textus receptus editions of Stephanus, Beza, et al. read with Erasmus shows that their texts were more or less slavish reprints of Erasmus’ text and not independently compiled editions, for had they been edited independently of Erasmus, they would surely have followed the Greek manuscripts here and read “tree of life.” Numerous other unique or extremely rare readings in the textus receptus editions could be referenced...

    ...None of the major modern English Bible translations made since World War II used the Westcott-Hort text as its base. This includes translations done by theological conservatives — the New American Standard Bible, the New International Version, the New King James, for examples — and translations done by theological liberals — the Revised Standard Version, the New English Bible, the Good News Bible, etc. The only English Bible translation currently in print that the writer is aware of which is based on the Westcott-Hort text is the New World Translation of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. In a very real sense, the very question of which is superior, Westcott and Hort, or the textus receptus, is passe, since neither is recognized by experts in the field as the standard text...”

    http://www.bible-researcher.com/kutilek1.html

    What does the NASB use?

    “GREEK TEXT: Consideration was given to the latest available manuscripts with a view to determining the best Greek text. In most instances the 26th edition of Eberhard Nestle’s NOVUM TESTAMENTUM GRAECE was followed.”

    “In most instances”

    What about the ESV?

    “The ESV is based on the Masoretic text of the Hebrew Bible as found in Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia (2nd ed., 1983), and on the Greek text in the 1993 editions of the Greek New Testament (4th corrected ed.), published by the United Bible Societies (UBS), and Novum Testamentum Graece (27th ed.), edited by Nestle and Aland.”

    Please notice both of them know the difference between “kill” and “murder”, and neither uses “the deliberately corrupt Hort-Westcott Greek manipulation”.

    And if I need to choose between the integrity and scholarship of the folks who made the NASB and ESV translations, and the Internet posters editor-surveyor & af_vet_1981...well, guess who I think is better qualified?

  • Why do Protestant lay people hate clergy?

    07/27/2014 4:08:46 PM PDT · 409 of 969
    Mr Rogers to af_vet_1981

    “One group of Baptists which took years to figure out that abortion was murder and discounts the KJV as an unfaithful translation.”

    No. One group had a moderate/liberal leadership that was fully ousted in the years following Roe v Wade. That group also recognizes the truth - that the KJV is a flawed translation. All are to some extent. In the case of the KJV, it is a decent translation EXCEPT that it promotes an ecclesiastical church hierarchy, and it did so because the translators were directed by King James to distort what the scripture says.

    As for what the resolutions actually said: I quoted them, so anyone can take a look. It is dishonest to say the SBC’s official position was weak on abortion until 2003.

    As for the KJV: The idea that it is a more accurate translation than the NASB or ESV is laughable. The additional work done on accurate manuscripts, our understanding of Greek & Hebrew, etc have all helped make superior modern translations. Add in that the English language has changed, so that “Thou shalt not kill” in the 1600s is the equivalent, in modern English, of “you shall not murder”, and it is obvious WHY we needed modern translations.

    Of course, if you don’t mind not knowing what the 10 Commandments REALLY say...

  • Why do Protestant lay people hate clergy?

    07/27/2014 12:52:24 PM PDT · 336 of 969
    Mr Rogers to af_vet_1981

    If bishops were put out of power, “I know what would become of my supremacy,” James objected. ”No bishop, no King. When I mean to live under a presbytery I will go to Scotland again.“

  • Why do Protestant lay people hate clergy?

    07/27/2014 12:47:44 PM PDT · 335 of 969
    Mr Rogers to af_vet_1981

    “I used past tense; you used past tense; now you want to use present tense. The SBC supported abortion and slowly changed its mind and pulled back from it with a succession of resolutions, fully rescinding their 1971 and 1974 resolutions in 2003.”

    Actually, they passed a differing resolution in 1976, not waiting until 2003. It occurred at the same time the SBC faced a split between conservatives and ‘moderates’...and the moderates lost, big time. By 1979, they had lost essentially all of their influence in the SBC, and it has been kept out for the last 35 years.

    “You had written The SBC did not support abortion and that is simply not true.”

    What I wrote, and what you choose to distort, is this:

    “The SBC did not support abortion. They were caught by surprise by Roe v Wade, and took a few years to get 45,000 congregations to build a consensus on how to respond.”

    Anyone who knows anything about the SBC knows that the “SBC leadership” has limited authority, and that resolutions are typically voted on by 1-2,000 delegates, and thus often misrepresent the views of the 45,000 member churches.

    “I brought this up because I thought your characterization of Baptists not using the KJV was skewed toward modern Baptists. The Independent Fundamental Baptists have clung to the KJV...”

    Really? Do y’all have Bishops? Do you all have a hierarchical church? Do you have Priests?

    The KJV is not hideous, but it is also not a faithful translation. Read the instructions King James gave to the translating committee, and how he forbade them from using congregation or elder:

    “3. The Old Ecclesiastical Words to be kept, viz. the Word Church not to be translated Congregation &c.

    4. When a Word hath divers Significations, that to be kept which hath been most commonly used by the most of the Ancient Fathers, being agreeable to the Propriety of the Place, and the Analogy of the Faith.”

    When you allow a King to determine your translation, you are not being faithful to the text.

  • Why do Protestant lay people hate clergy?

    07/27/2014 10:41:17 AM PDT · 308 of 969
    Mr Rogers to St_Thomas_Aquinas

    “15 “If your brother sins against you, go to him and show him his fault. But do it privately, just between yourselves. If he listens to you, you have won your brother back. 16 But if he will not listen to you, take one or two other persons with you, so that ‘every accusation may be upheld by the testimony of two or more witnesses,’ as the scripture says. 17 And if he will not listen to them, then tell the whole thing to the church. Finally, if he will not listen to the church, treat him as though he were a pagan or a tax collector.

    18 “And so I tell all of you: what you prohibit on earth will be prohibited in heaven, and what you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven.

    19 “And I tell you more: whenever two of you on earth agree about anything you pray for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three come together in my name, I am there with them.” - Matt 18

    To repeat: “18 “And so I tell all of you: what you prohibit on earth will be prohibited in heaven, and what you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven.”

    Please note this was directed at the disciples, not just the Apostles.

  • Why do Protestant lay people hate clergy?

    07/27/2014 9:24:08 AM PDT · 298 of 969
    Mr Rogers to af_vet_1981

    I guess you choose to ignore what followed, when the 45,000 congregations that make up the SBC rejected that approach:

    Resolution On Abortion
    Norfolk, Virginia - 1976

    “WHEREAS, Southern Baptists have historically held a biblical view of the sanctity of human life, and

    WHEREAS, Abortion is a very serious moral and spiritual problem of continuing concern to the American people, and

    WHEREAS, Christians have a responsibility to deal with all moral and spiritual issues which affect society, including the problems of abortion, and

    WHEREAS, The practice of abortion for selfish non-therapeutic reasons want-only destroys fetal life, dulls our society’s moral sensitivity, and leads to a cheapening of all human life, and

    WHEREAS, Every decision for an abortion, for whatever reason must necessarily involve the decision to terminate the life of an innocent human being.

    Therefore be it RESOLVED, that the messengers to the Southern Baptist Convention meeting in Norfolk in June 1976 reaffirm the biblical sacredness and dignity of all human life, including fetal life, and

    Be it further RESOLVED, that we call on Southern Baptists and all citizens of the nation to work to change those attitudes and conditions which encourage many people to turn to abortion as a means of birth control, and

    Be it further RESOLVED, that in the best interest of our society, we reject any indiscriminate attitude toward abortion, as contrary to the biblical view, and

    Be it further RESOLVED, that we also affirm our conviction about the limited role of government in dealing with matters relating to abortion, and support the right of expectant mothers to the full range of medical services and personal counseling for the preservation of life and health.”


    Resolution On Abortion
    Kansas City, Missouri - 1977

    RESOLVED that this Convention reaffirm the strong stand against abortion adopted by the 1976 Convention, and, in view of some confusion in interpreting part of this resolution we confirm our strong opposition to abortion on demand and all governmental policies and actions which permit this.


    Resolution On Abortion And Infanticide
    New Orleans, Louisiana - 1982

    WHEREAS, Both medical science and biblical references indicate that human life begins at conception, and

    WHEREAS, Southern Baptists have traditionally upheld the sanctity and worth of all human life, both born and pre-born, as being created in the image of God, and

    WHEREAS, Current judicial opinion gives no guarantee of protection of pre-born persons, thus permitting the widespread practice of abortion on demand, which has led to the killing of an estimated four thousand developing human beings daily in the United States, and

    WHEREAS, Social acceptance of abortion has begun to dull society’s respect for all human life, leading to growing occurrences of infanticide, child abuse, and active euthanasia.

    Therefore, be it RESOLVED, That the messengers to the 1982 Southern Baptist Convention affirm that all human life, both born and pre-born, is sacred, bearing the image of God, and is not subject to personal judgments as to “quality of life” based on such subjective criteria as stage of development, abnormality, intelligence level, degree of dependency, cost of medical treatment, or inconvenience to parents.

    Be it further RESOLVED, That we abhor the use of federal, state or local tax money; public, tax-supported medical facilities; or Southern Baptist supported medical facilities for the practice of selfish, medically unnecessary abortions and/or the practice of withholding treatment from unwanted or defective newly born infants.

    Be it finally RESOLVED, That we support and will work for appropriate legislation and/or constitutional amendment which will prohibit abortions except to save the physical life of the mother, and that we also support and will work for legislation which will prohibit the practice of infanticide.


    Resolution On Abortion
    Kansas City, Missouri - 1984

    WHEREAS, The Southern Baptist Convention, meeting in New Orleans in June 1982, clearly stated its opposition to abortion and called upon Southern Baptists to work for appropriate legislation and/or constitutional amendment which will prohibit abortions except to save the physical life of the mother; and

    WHEREAS, In addition to legislative remedies for this national sin, it is incumbent that we encourage the woman who is considering abortion to think seriously about the grave significance of such action by presenting information to her about the unborn child in her womb, who is a living individual human being, and encourage her to consider alternatives to abortion; and

    WHEREAS, Christlike love requires that such alternatives be made available.

    Therefore, be it RESOLVED, That the Southern Baptist Convention meeting in Kansas City, Missouri, June 12-14, 1984, encourage all of its institutions, cooperating churches, and members to work diligently to provide counseling, housing, and adoption placement services for unwed mothers with the specific intent of bringing them into a relationship with Jesus Christ and/or a sense of Christian responsibility; and

    Be it further RESOLVED, That we deplore the practice of performing abortions, as well as dispensing to minors without parental consent or even notification, contraceptive medications which have potentially dangerous side effects, and deplore also the use of tax funds for such activities; and

    Be it further RESOLVED, That we call upon all Southern Baptists to renew their commitment to support and work for legislation and/or constitutional amendment which will prohibit abortion except to save the physical life of the mother; and

    Be it further RESOLVED, That we encourage Southern Baptists to inquire whether or not their physicians perform abortions on demand or give referrals for abortions, and that we commend those of the medical profession who abstain from performing abortions or making abortion referrals; and

    Be it finally RESOLVED, That we urge our agencies and institutions to provide leadership for our cooperating churches and members, by preparing literature to take a clear and strong stand against abortion, and to inform and motivate our members to action to eliminate abortion on demand.


    Resolution On Abortion
    St. Louis, Missouri - 1987

    WHEREAS, Southern Baptists have traditionally upheld the sanctity of all innocent human life and have opposed abortion on demand; and

    WHEREAS, 4,000 unborn children are being killed daily in America’s abortuaries;

    Therefore, be it RESOLVED, That we, the messengers of the Southern Baptist Convention, meeting in St. Louis, Missouri, June 16-18, 1987, encourage the Christian Life Commission to continue the expansion of program services related to the sanctity of human life and to actively lobby for legislation to protect the lives of the unborn; and

    Be it further RESOLVED, That we encourage the Christian Life Commission to continue to make the abortion issue a priority on its agenda; and

    Be it further RESOLVED, That we encourage the Home Mission Board to train churches for ministry in crisis pregnancy centers and residential care homes for pregnant women and children; and

    Be it further RESOLVED, That we encourage churches, associations, and state conventions to expand their children’s homes ministry to include outpatient and residential care for unwed mothers; and

    Be it further RESOLVED, That we encourage all agencies and institutions of the SBC to use their resources and program ministries to promote the sanctity of human life; and

    Be it further RESOLVED, That we encourage individuals to minister to those who need physical, emotional, and spiritual support in the midst of a crisis pregnancy; and

    Be it finally RESOLVED, That we encourage all churches of the SBC to observe Sanctity of Human Life Sunday on the Convention’s calendar, January 17, 1988.


    Resolution On Sanctity Of Human Life
    Atlanta, Georgia - 1991

    WHEREAS, The Bible teaches that God holds human life to be sacred and created human beings in His own image; and

    WHEREAS, Southern Baptists have historically affirmed biblical teaching regarding the sanctity of human life by adopting numerous pro-life resolutions at the national, state, and local levels; and

    WHEREAS, Approximately 1.6 million unborn babies are killed each year in America as a result of the 1973 decision of the Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade; and

    WHEREAS, In 1989 the Supreme Court began the dismantlement of the Roe decision by upholding a Missouri pro-life statute in Webster v. Reproductive Health Services; and

    WHEREAS, As a result of the Webster decision, states now have more flexibility to regulate and restrict the practice of abortion; and

    WHEREAS, The Supreme Court is likely to erode or overturn the Roe decision in the near future; and

    WHEREAS, Legislation has been introduced in the United States Congress which would codify and expand the Roe abortion rights and thereby restrict the rights of states to regulate abortions within their borders; and

    WHEREAS, Pro-abortion legislators in Congress are also attempting to repeal restrictions on federal abortion funding; and

    WHEREAS, New drugs and technologies, including RU-486, which will make the practice of abortion easier, are being researched and used in other nations and abortion advocates are attempting to bring these technologies to America; and

    WHEREAS, Some scientists in America are experimenting with the tissues of babies from induced abortions in order to find cures to certain diseases and are working to repeal the ban on federal government research on fetal tissue transplantation; Now, therefore,

    BE IT RESOLVED, That we the messengers to the Southern Baptist Convention, meeting in Atlanta, Georgia, June 4-6, 1991, affirm the biblical prohibition against the taking of unborn human life except to save the life of the mother; and

    BE IT FUTHER RESOLVED, That we call on all Southern Baptists to work for the adoption of pro-life legislation in their respective states which would expand protection for unborn babies; and

    BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That we call on all Southern Baptists to work with equal fervor to compassionately encourage and assist girls and women with unplanned or unwanted pregnancies to carry their children to term and to prepare for the best life possible for their children; and

    BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That we oppose all efforts by the United States Congress to limit the rights of states to restrict abortion-on-demand and call upon Congress to maintain current pro-life policies which prohibit the use of federal funds to encourage, promote, or perform abortions except to save the life of the mother; and

    BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That we oppose the testing, approval, distribution, and marketing in America of new drugs and technologies which will make the practice of abortion more convenient and more widespread; and

    BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That we support the current federal government ban on funding any transplantation of tissue from induced abortions for purposes of experimentation and research and call on the federal government to maintain the ban despite pressure from the scientific community and pro-abortion organizations.


    On Thirty Years Of Roe V. Wade
    Phoenix - 2003

    WHEREAS, Scripture reveals that all human life is created in the image of God, and therefore sacred to our Creator (Genesis 1:27; Genesis 9:6); and

    WHEREAS, The Bible affirms that the unborn baby is a person bearing the image of God from the moment of conception (Psalm 139:13–16; Luke 1:44); and

    WHEREAS, Scripture further commands the people of God to plead for protection for the innocent and justice for the fatherless (Psalm 72:12–14; Psalm 82:3; James 1:27); and

    WHEREAS, January 2003 marked thirty years since the 1973 United States Supreme Court Roe v. Wade decision, which legalized abortion in all fifty states; and

    WHEREAS, Resolutions passed by the Southern Baptist Convention in 1971 and 1974 accepted unbiblical premises of the abortion rights movement, forfeiting the opportunity to advocate the protection of defenseless women and children; and

    WHEREAS, During the early years of the post-Roe era, some of those then in leadership positions within the denomination endorsed and furthered the “pro-choice” abortion rights agenda outlined in Roe v. Wade; and

    WHEREAS, Some political leaders have referenced 1970s-era Southern Baptist Convention resolutions and statements by former Southern Baptist Convention leaders to oppose legislative efforts to protect women and children from abortion; and

    WHEREAS, Southern Baptist churches have effected a renewal of biblical orthodoxy and confessional integrity in our denomination, beginning with the Southern Baptist Convention presidential election of 1979; and

    WHEREAS, The Southern Baptist Convention has maintained a robust commitment to the sanctity of all human life, including that of the unborn, beginning with a landmark pro-life resolution in 1982; and

    WHEREAS, Our confessional statement, The Baptist Faith and Message, affirms that children “from the moment of conception, are a blessing and heritage from the Lord”; and further affirms that Southern Baptists are mandated by Scripture to “speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death”; and

    WHEREAS, The legacy of Roe v. Wade has grown to include ongoing assaults on human life such as euthanasia, the harvesting of human embryos for the purposes of medical experimentation, and an accelerating move toward human cloning; now, therefore, be it

    RESOLVED, That the messengers to the Southern Baptist Convention meeting in Phoenix, Arizona, June 17–18, 2003, reiterate our conviction that the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision was based on a fundamentally flawed understanding of the United States Constitution, human embryology, and the basic principles of human rights; and be it further

    RESOLVED, That we reaffirm our belief that the Roe v. Wade decision was an act of injustice against innocent unborn children as well as against vulnerable women in crisis pregnancy situations, both of which have been victimized by a “sexual revolution” that empowers predatory and irresponsible men and by a lucrative abortion industry that has fought against even the most minimal restrictions on abortion; and be it further

    RESOLVED, That we offer our prayers, our love, and our advocacy for women and men who have been abused by abortion and the emotional, spiritual, and physical aftermath of this horrific practice; affirming that the gospel of Jesus Christ grants complete forgiveness for any sin, including that of abortion; and be it further

    RESOLVED, That we lament and renounce statements and actions by previous Conventions and previous denominational leadership that offered support to the abortion culture; and be it further

    RESOLVED, That we humbly confess that the initial blindness of many in our Convention to the enormity of Roe v. Wade should serve as a warning to contemporary Southern Baptists of the subtlety of the spirit of the age in obscuring a biblical worldview; and be it further

    RESOLVED, That we urge our Southern Baptist churches to remain vigilant in the protection of human life by preaching the whole counsel of God on matters of human sexuality and the sanctity of life, by encouraging and empowering Southern Baptists to adopt unwanted children, by providing spiritual, emotional, and financial support for women in crisis pregnancies, and by calling on our government officials to take action to protect the lives of women and children; and be it further

    RESOLVED, That we express our appreciation to both houses of Congress for their passage of the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003, and we applaud President Bush for his commitment to sign this bill into law; and be it further

    RESOLVED, That we urge Congress to act swiftly to deliver this bill to President Bush for his signature; and be it finally

    RESOLVED, That we pray and work for the repeal of the Roe v. Wade decision and for the day when the act of abortion will be not only illegal, but also unthinkable.


    Let me repeat part of the last one for emphasis:

    “WHEREAS, Resolutions passed by the Southern Baptist Convention in 1971 and 1974 accepted unbiblical premises of the abortion rights movement, forfeiting the opportunity to advocate the protection of defenseless women and children; and

    WHEREAS, During the early years of the post-Roe era, some of those then in leadership positions within the denomination endorsed and furthered the “pro-choice” abortion rights agenda outlined in Roe v. Wade; and...

    ...WHEREAS, Southern Baptist churches have effected a renewal of biblical orthodoxy and confessional integrity in our denomination, beginning with the Southern Baptist Convention presidential election of 1979; and...

    ...WHEREAS, Our confessional statement, The Baptist Faith and Message, affirms that children “from the moment of conception, are a blessing and heritage from the Lord”; and further affirms that Southern Baptists are mandated by Scripture to “speak on behalf of the unborn and contend for the sanctity of all human life from conception to natural death”; and

    WHEREAS, The legacy of Roe v. Wade has grown to include ongoing assaults on human life such as euthanasia, the harvesting of human embryos for the purposes of medical experimentation, and an accelerating move toward human cloning; now, therefore, be it

    RESOLVED, That the messengers to the Southern Baptist Convention meeting in Phoenix, Arizona, June 17–18, 2003, reiterate our conviction that the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision was based on a fundamentally flawed understanding of the United States Constitution, human embryology, and the basic principles of human rights; and be it further

    RESOLVED, That we reaffirm our belief that the Roe v. Wade decision was an act of injustice against innocent unborn children as well as against vulnerable women in crisis pregnancy situations, both of which have been victimized by a “sexual revolution” that empowers predatory and irresponsible men and by a lucrative abortion industry that has fought against even the most minimal restrictions on abortion; and be it further...

    ...RESOLVED, That we lament and renounce statements and actions by previous Conventions and previous denominational leadership that offered support to the abortion culture; and be it further

    RESOLVED, That we humbly confess that the initial blindness of many in our Convention to the enormity of Roe v. Wade should serve as a warning to contemporary Southern Baptists of the subtlety of the spirit of the age in obscuring a biblical worldview...”

    Seems to me it is pretty obvious where the SBC stands, and I’m pretty sure you knew all this already...which leads me to wonder what your agenda is.

    As I wrote, and as you choose to selectively quote a portion to make it seem I wrote something else:

    “The SBC did not support abortion. They were caught by surprise by Roe v Wade, and took a few years to get 45,000 congregations to build a consensus on how to respond.”

    So - what is your agenda and what idea are you trying to push by distorting the actual record of the SBC?

  • Why do Protestant lay people hate clergy?

    07/27/2014 8:36:11 AM PDT · 296 of 969
    Mr Rogers to af_vet_1981

    The SBC did not support abortion. They were caught by surprise by Roe v Wade, and took a few years to get 45,000 congregations to build a consensus on how to respond. The SBC has been very strong in the anti-abortion fight, and members of the SBC have an outstanding track record of backing their words with their votes. In 2008, a whopping 1% of SBC pastors voted for Obama - find another denomination with a better vote tally!

    And no, the KJV is not a great translation. King James gave specific instructions requiring a high church translation. Why? Because if congregations were free to choose their leaders, then why shouldn’t people be free to choose their political leaders - hence his comment, “No Bishop, No King!”

    When someone deliberately mistranslates the word of God to promote their politics, it is evil. The Tyndale translation 80 years earlier was more faithful, and actually holds up well today.

  • Why do Protestant lay people hate clergy?

    07/27/2014 7:47:49 AM PDT · 294 of 969
    Mr Rogers to michaelwlf3; RFEngineer

    “I am talking about the people who have run thousands or millions of sinners away from Christ because of their judgmental, hateful attitudes. That is not my congregation.”

    One of the great failings of the modern church is its refusal to take sin seriously. It is true that sinners who choose to wallow in their sin will reject the judgmental attitude of...God Himself.

    It is also true that a Christian who doesn’t take sin seriously is not a Christian, because you cannot be becoming more like God while rejecting what God says about sin. You cannot tolerate sin and be a child of God. You will still sin, as all of us do, but you won’t be happy about it.

    One of the great heresies in the modern church is that it has changed “God loves you in spite of what you are” into “God loves you as you are”. The Gospel starts with “Repent”. Modern man, hearing the church, can reasonably reply, “Repent from what? You said God loves me just like I am....”

    Who needs a new life, if God accepts them as they are in their old life?

  • Why do Protestant lay people hate clergy?

    07/27/2014 7:37:19 AM PDT · 293 of 969
    Mr Rogers to michaelwlf3

    “I beg your pardon, the King James Version of the Holy Scriptures is OUR Bible, we published it, and I have heard many a Baptist declare the KJV to be the only “True Word of God”.”

    The KJV deliberately mistranslated several words in the Bible on King James requirement, based on “No Bishop, No King”. It was a high church blatant rejection of what scripture says for what medieval society wanted.

    While there are small baptist churches who claim the KJV is the only acceptable translation, the large majority - the vast majority - do not. In my 40 years, including 25 moving about because I was in the military, I’ve only encountered ONE small independent baptist church that was KJV only. If you went to a Baptist Bible study, odds are no one will be using the KJV.

    The KJV borrowed much of its language for the NT from Tyndale, but Tyndale was an honest translator, unlike the KJV crowd. Adjust Tyndale’s translation in 1526 to modern spelling & punctuation, and it reads like a modern translation. The KJV rejected the simplicity of the original language to support a high church theology.

    Are Anglican churches accepting practicing homosexuals as church leaders? Many are. Do they ordain women? Do they have priests, although the New Testament had no office of priest?

    No Christian in the New Testament is called a priest, except in the sense of a universal priesthood offering sacrifices of thanksgiving, praise, and good deeds to God. If you call yourself priest in any other sense, then you are rejecting what the word of God reveals to follow the traditions of man. Anyone who calls himself a priest in contrast to the lay people has rejected the divine revelation on how the church is to be ordered, as revealed by the Apostles.

    If you claim authority from the Apostles while rejecting what they taught, why would anyone take you seriously?

  • Why do Protestant lay people hate clergy?

    07/26/2014 4:24:37 PM PDT · 160 of 969
    Mr Rogers to pgyanke; .45 Long Colt; michaelwlf3

    ” They have all-but admitted that their basic theological position is that the Catholic Church has it wrong... let’s go find another answer.”

    Hogwash. I’ve been a Baptist for 40+ years, and I’ve never heard ANY Baptist use the Catholic Church to reference theology! Frankly, we don’t CARE what Catholics teach!

    In every discussion I’ve heard, we simply ask, “What does the Bible say?”

    ” That’s why most “Protestants” who are comfortable with the ecumenical movement are Arminian.”

    Most Protestants have never heard of Arminius. However, frankly, I’ve never met a Cavinist who believed in Calvin’s doctrines at the time of salvation. Odd, isn’t it?

    When was the last time you heard a pastor preach, “If God decides to save you, you cannot resist! If he does not, you cannot be saved - and God hates most of you! Now - who is God compelling to come forward tonight?”

    As for the Anglicans: I see no sign the Anglican Church believes scripture is the Word of God, and not just some dusty old rules that don’t apply to modern man. Indeed, by having “priests”, it rejects the teaching of the New Testament for the teaching of man.

    Do I or other Baptists spend a lot of time worrying about it? No, but neither do I give much weight to someone’s theological views if they insist they hold an office the New Testament never mentions...

  • Montana Sen. Walsh Says PTSD May Have Played A Role In His Plagiarism

    07/26/2014 11:01:26 AM PDT · 36 of 42
    Mr Rogers to chessplayer

    I’ve seen several articles calling him a hero. Was his Bronze Star for valor, or for planning? One of the worst combat leaders I ever met - a total incompetent in the plane - got a Bronze Star because he was an O-6 who did lots of planning stuff...

  • Newt Gingrich: ‘Turn the Pentagon Into a Triangle’

    07/25/2014 5:04:58 PM PDT · 33 of 35
    Mr Rogers to EricT.

    “Did you even read what he said about cutting bureaucracy and investing the savings in troops and equipment? / Good grief people can be so damned dense sometimes.”

    Yes, and it was MEANINGLESS because it had ZERO specifics!

    WHAT bureaucracy does he want to cut? Is it the part that manages acquisition, to prevent the fraud that occurs when Congress gives money directly to people in their own states to turn out things no one in the military wants?

    Does he want to close bases? WHICH bases, and why?

    Does he want to keep us at our tiny level of F-22s? Does he want or oppose the F-35? Is he like those folks in the 70 who wanted to cut “waste” by rejecting the F-15 and F-16?

    Exactly WHAT do YOU think Newt wants to do? In your own words, what programs / equipment / personnel does he want to cut? Do YOU realize there is no line item in the budget called “waste”?

  • Whatever happened to appearances and when did it happen?

    07/25/2014 12:25:03 PM PDT · 88 of 142
    Mr Rogers to jsanders2001
    This is a picture of my Mom being a tourist in the 60s. It is also a pretty good picture of how she looked going to the store to buy groceries:

    Now, here is the First Lady of the United States, on vacation:

    For the record, my Mom grew up very poor, and was only allowed to wear shoes to school after the first frost each year. She was a high school graduate, with 12 members in the senior class. My parents' favorite recreation was going bowling. We owned one car when I was growing up, and the homes we lived in were typically around 1000 sq ft. But even when she was old, she never went to buy groceries without touching up her hair, putting on makeup and making sure she was 'presentable'...

  • Newt Gingrich: ‘Turn the Pentagon Into a Triangle’

    07/25/2014 8:06:25 AM PDT · 22 of 35
    Mr Rogers to ExNewsExSpook

    Good post. The real waste never gets cut, because the real waste exists as political payoffs to supporters. So the spear gets trimmed at the pointy end...

  • Newt Gingrich: ‘Turn the Pentagon Into a Triangle’

    07/25/2014 8:04:09 AM PDT · 20 of 35
    Mr Rogers to mac_truck

    “Stop subsidizing European security through NATO for starters. “

    When Iraq invaded Kuwait, I landed on the ramp in Incirlik Turkey a few days later. Why? Because our forward deployment with NATO meant we had the manpower and logistical supplies in position, so all we had to do was fly the planes from England and land there.

    Most of the European bases have been closed. RAF Upper Heyford is now used to store cars. We’ve already cut back big time.

  • Newt Gingrich: ‘Turn the Pentagon Into a Triangle’

    07/25/2014 7:50:14 AM PDT · 16 of 35
    Mr Rogers to driftdiver

    Near the end of my career, I worked operational test. I got to see the acquisition process, and it certainly has waste - mostly directed in the form of Congressional set-asides and contracts written to favor the manufacturer because that is what the politicians wanted.

    However, there is no way to reduce that waste without reducing the number of congressmen. And while tempting, I’m not convinced that LESS local control of politicians would be a good thing.

    What Newt is really saying is cut programs. IMHO, we are already underfunding needed upgrades in weapons.

  • Newt Gingrich: ‘Turn the Pentagon Into a Triangle’

    07/25/2014 7:44:10 AM PDT · 12 of 35
    Mr Rogers to EricT.; driftdiver

    No one knows what he is talking about:

    ” In the spirit of the Reinventing Government initiative, Gingrich told the House GOP, “I believe we can overhaul the mid-level bureaucracy of the Pentagon and that our goal should be to turn the Pentagon into a triangle by reducing at least 40 percent of the unnecessary duplication and waste that’s in the system.”

    Really? What 40% “unnecessary duplication and waste”? Why not 38%, or 50%? Where did he get 40%? Oh, that’s right - 2 sides of a pentagon are 40%, so his number matches his slogan. Great!

    And what is waste? Obama and others consider the F-22 waste. In the 70s, many democrats argued the F-15 was waste. What waste is he talking about, and how does he plan to eliminate waste and not good stuff?

  • Newt Gingrich: ‘Turn the Pentagon Into a Triangle’

    07/25/2014 7:33:20 AM PDT · 8 of 35
    Mr Rogers to EricT.; US Navy Vet

    “What, exactly, is wrong with that?”

    What is wrong is that it is meaningless. ANYONE can say, “Cut waste and spend money efficiently”, but HOW? What specific proposals does Newt want that would make the Pentagon a Triangle?

    FWIW, I spent 25 years in the military and I think the military made good use of modern technology compared to many business companies. It certainly made better use of technology than most non-defense government agencies. I sure didn’t need to worry that all my emails would disappear if my hard drive crashed, and I retired in 2008...

  • Lawyers Tried to Stop Botched Execution After 1 Hour

    07/24/2014 9:19:56 AM PDT · 38 of 66
    Mr Rogers to Impala64ssa

    “At 8:50 a.m., a Tucson Police officer saw Defendant driving in a suspicious manner near the shop. The officer slowed her patrol car and made eye contact with Defendant as he left his truck and entered the shop. Eugene was on the telephone in an area where three other employees were working. Defendant waited for Eugene to hang up, drew a revolver, and approached to within four feet of him. The other employees shouted for Defendant to put the gun away. Without saying a word, Defendant fatally shot Eugene once in the chest and then smiled. When the police officer saw this from her patrol car she immediately called for more officers. Defendant left the shop, but quickly returned and again pointed his revolver at the now supine Eugene. Donald Dietz, an employee and Eugene’s seventy-year-old brother, struggled with Defendant, who then ran to the area where Debra had been working.

    Debra had apparently heard an employee shout that her father had been shot and was trying to telephone for help when Defendant grabbed her around the neck from behind and placed his revolver directly against her chest. Debra struggled and screamed, “No, Joe, don’t!” Another employee heard Defendant say, “I told you I was going to do it, I have to kill you.” Defendant then called Debra a “bitch” and shot her twice in the chest...

    ...Although he did not testify, Defendant did not dispute his role in the killings but argued he had acted impulsively and without premeditation...

    ...This court has “long held that where the existence of premeditation is in issue, evidence of previous quarrels or difficulties between the accused and the victim is admissible.” Jeffers, 135 Ariz. at 418, 661 P.2d at 1119 (citing Leonard v. State, 17 Ariz. 293, 151 P. 947 (1915)). Such evidence “tends to show the malice, motive or premeditation of the accused.” Id. at 418, 661 P.2d at 1119 (emphasis added). In some cases, of course, such evidence may also show lack of premeditation. In either event, it is relevant. Defendant’s abuse of Debra falls squarely within this rule and, under the facts of this case, tends to show both motive and premeditation...”

    http://leagle.com/decision/1994233180Ariz53_1222.xml/STATE%20v.%20WOOD

  • U.S. ally cuts off communications with Obama and seeks new trade outside dollar

    07/23/2014 8:17:27 AM PDT · 4 of 34
    Mr Rogers to Pearls Before Swine

    The extremists have taken over Turkey. I would no longer consider THEM an ally, and that would be true if Sarah Palin was President!

  • McDonald’s, KFC face new food scandal after workers serve food off floor

    07/21/2014 1:55:48 PM PDT · 36 of 50
    Mr Rogers to driftdiver

    In my house, we have to fight the dogs for any meat scraps that hit the ground. Most are intercepted by the dogs about 6” below counter height. I’m having trouble understanding the “5 second rule’...I’ve never seen food that was still on the floor after 5 seconds!

  • Faulty and False Global Temperature Readings -- Anthony Watts, Meteorologist

    07/21/2014 8:19:24 AM PDT · 24 of 28
    Mr Rogers to USCG SimTech

    These measurements go back to the 1850s. Are you suggesting that the guys measuring the temperature in Siberia in the winter in 1875 were NOT calibrating their instruments to be accurate to within 0.1 deg? Are you suggesting we didn’t KNOW the daily temperatures in the Amazon rain forest with high precision in 1897?

    Skeptic! Suggesting reputable scientists are taking measurements with a sledgehammer and reporting their results with a micrometer!

  • Faulty and False Global Temperature Readings -- Anthony Watts, Meteorologist

    07/21/2014 7:30:24 AM PDT · 13 of 28
    Mr Rogers to pepsionice

    When I was growing up in Tucson, it was a much cooler place. Most summer days hit 102 or 103. Now it will hit 110+. Why?

    When I was young, there were entire 1 sq mile parcels of empty land inside the city. In a number of places, there would be a subdivision occupying 1/4 of a 1 sq mile parcel of land, with 3/4 empty. 2-story buildings were rare, and building above 3 stories almost nonexistent (except in the immediate downtown).

    Now, it has filled in. The streets are 3 lanes in each direction instead of one. There is very little empty land. Subdivisions are now built with houses touching each other instead of with large backyards.

    Yet somehow it is CO2 making Tucson hotter, and not the huge population increase and all the buildings...

    I now live out in Vail. We are about 1000 feet higher (and about 20 miles from where I grew up). Our typical summer highs are 99-101. A thousand feet higher, and 10 deg cooler - does that sound like a normal temperature gradient?

  • Soccer Balls, Sanctimony and A Billion Dollar Group Called “Baptist Child and Family Services”…

    07/19/2014 1:06:44 PM PDT · 80 of 81
    Mr Rogers to VerySadAmerican; ansel12

    “By the way, when was the last time you heard a Southern Baptist leader condemn the liberal agenda?”

    That would have been last Saturday, from my pastor at the Saturday Men’s meeting. I missed church on Sunday, so it couldn’t have been Sunday.

    “In another finding, SBC pastors overwhelmingly favor Republican John McCain over his two Democratic rivals, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

    Eighty percent of SBC pastors plan to vote for McCain. Obama was supported by 1 percent of pastors, while Clinton gained 0 percent of pastors’ support...

    ...When asked whether they “believe that the media has overstated the threat of global warming,” 86 percent of SBC pastors responded in the affirmative...

    ...The study findings are based on surveys conducted by LifeWay Research in spring 2008. “

    http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?id=28134&ref=BPNews-RSSFeed0528

  • Soccer Balls, Sanctimony and A Billion Dollar Group Called “Baptist Child and Family Services”…

    07/19/2014 12:46:43 PM PDT · 79 of 81
    Mr Rogers to VerySadAmerican

    “As for the Baptists, I’ll never set foot in another Baptist Church. (Or any other church) I know ALL Baptists aren’t involved but I haven’t heard any of the mega Baptist preachers condemning it either. I’ve been to several large Baptist Churches over the past few years. All of them with the SBC. Everyone of them had a huge room with Hispanics where the sermon was being interpreted. And I mean a huge room! I have to wonder if the American taxpayer didn’t build the facilities.”

    Time to lay off the weed...

  • Colorado Baker Appeals Gay 'Re-Education' Order

    07/18/2014 6:47:22 PM PDT · 43 of 58
    Mr Rogers to SpaceBar

    True. There is a reason many conservatives opposed the Civil Rights Act, and I’m NOT talking racism. It was the wrong way to solve the problem, and it left us with a country that was no longer free.

  • 20 Signs The Drought In The Western United States Is Starting To Become Apocalyptic

    07/17/2014 1:32:44 PM PDT · 30 of 167
    Mr Rogers to cuban leaf

    The problem has less to do with households than farms. 80% of California’s water goes to farming.

    Where I live in Arizona, the water run-off of my roof would NOT keep me in water year around. The vast majority of the water falling on my 2 acres runs off into temporary rivers. The water supplier for my area has kept a pretty level pumping depth for the last 10 years, but hopes to bring in outside water to supplement it for continuing growth.

    In Arizona, farming takes up about 70% of the state’s water.

  • Virginity Pledges (Still) Don’t Work, Unless You’re Really Religious

    07/17/2014 9:32:56 AM PDT · 13 of 29
    Mr Rogers to Morgana

    Am I the only one who remembers when abstinence was ASSUMED?

  • Witness: Ventura Said SEALs Deserved To Lose Men In Iraq

    07/16/2014 5:55:11 PM PDT · 3 of 40
    Mr Rogers to RIghtwardHo

    The court case has nothing to do with assault and battery. Ventura is claiming he was never hit.

  • Two years on, Yahoo under Marissa Mayer still treading water

    07/16/2014 11:29:44 AM PDT · 15 of 15
    Mr Rogers to jimbo123

    From Wiki:

    “Mayer is Lutheran, but said, referencing Vince Lombardi’s “Your God, your family and the Green Bay Packers” quote, her priorities are “God, family and Yahoo, except I’m not that religious, so it’s really family and Yahoo.”

  • Billy Bean hired by MLB as Ambassador For Inclusion,will lead gay inclusion program

    07/16/2014 7:56:43 AM PDT · 31 of 48
    Mr Rogers to Vigilanteman

    They say they want me to stay out of their bedroom, but they then insist on entering my living room and having sex there. I’m beginning to think that 5000 years of anti-homosexual laws existed to allow the other 99% to live in quiet!

    I’m 56, and I’ve managed to go thru my entire life without ever walking up to a stranger and saying, “Hi! I’m hetero, and I get turned on by a good looking woman’s body....accept me for who I am!”

  • Pentagon’s big budget F-35 fighter ‘can’t turn, can’t climb, can’t run’

    07/15/2014 9:41:02 PM PDT · 11 of 29
    Mr Rogers to Rabin

    I’ve got an old book on my shelves explaining why the F-15 should be cancelled along with the F-16. I keep it to remember how full of dog poop many of these writers are.

  • GOP moderates revolt in Kansas (not exactly "big tent" people are they?)

    07/15/2014 6:55:16 PM PDT · 7 of 38
    Mr Rogers to cotton1706

    In my experience, moderates ALWAYS refuse to support a conservative. Most will vote for the Democrat instead.

  • ‘Transgender’ Files Complaint Against Hobby Lobby for Denying Use of Women’s Restroom

    07/15/2014 2:53:51 PM PDT · 49 of 60
    Mr Rogers to massmike

    Why can’t female employees sue the transgender for sexual intimidation and harassment? Or do we need to go to unisex bathrooms to please 0.5% of the population?

  • Why Holder remark made white people mad

    07/15/2014 10:21:41 AM PDT · 8 of 58
    Mr Rogers to Conservative Beacon

    In reality, the reason is very simple:

    It makes us mad because we’re tired of being crapped on for stuff we do not do. I loathe Obama for the same reason I loathe Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid - I hate lying socialists who want to destroy America. I am an Equal Opportunity Loather of America Haters.

  • Pope Says Children at U.S. Border Must Be 'Welcomed and Protected'

    07/15/2014 9:44:23 AM PDT · 115 of 130
    Mr Rogers to Oldeconomybuyer


    39. The Church recognizes the right of a sovereign state to control its borders in furtherance of the common good. It also recognizes the right of human persons to migrate so that they can realize their God-given rights. These teachings complement each other. While the sovereign state may impose reasonable limits on immigration, the common good is not served when the basic human rights of the individual are violated. In the current condition of the world, in which global poverty and persecution are rampant, the presumption is that persons must migrate in order to support and protect themselves and that nations who are able to receive them should do so whenever possible. It is through this lens that we assess the current migration reality between the United States and Mexico.”

    Strangers No Longer Together on the Journey of Hope

    Issued by USCCB, January 22, 2003

    http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/immigration/strangers-no-longer-together-on-the-journey-of-hope.cfm

    “US authorities have detained some 57,000 unaccompanied minors since October, twice the number from the same period a year ago. Mexican authorities have picked up 8,000 child migrants in the first five months of the year, and more than half of them were traveling by themselves.

    Addressing the Colloquium, Cardinal Parolin stated: “Whether they are traveling because of poverty, or violence, or with the hope of reuniting with relatives on the other side of the border, it is urgent to protect them and help them because their vulnerability is greater and they are defenseless against any abuse or misfortune”.

    http://www.news.va/en/news/pope-calls-for-protection-of-unaccompanied-child-m

  • Pope Says Children at U.S. Border Must Be 'Welcomed and Protected'

    07/15/2014 9:39:31 AM PDT · 113 of 130
    Mr Rogers to Oldeconomybuyer

    “...I would also like to draw attention to the tens of thousands of children who migrate alone, unaccompanied, to escape poverty and violence: This is a category of migrants from Central America and Mexico itself who cross the border with the United States under extreme conditions and in pursuit of a hope that in most cases turns out to be vain. They are increasing day by day. This humanitarian emergency requires, as a first urgent measure, these children be welcomed and protected. These measures, however, will not be sufficient, unless they are accompanied by policies that inform people about the dangers of such a journey and, above all, that promote development in their countries of origin. Finally, this challenge demands the attention of the entire international community so that new forms of legal and secure migration may be adopted.

    I wish every success to the laudable initiative of the Mexican government’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs in arranging a colloquium of study and reflection on the great challenge of migration and cordially impart my Apostolic Blessing to all those present.

    [Translation by Vatican Radio]”

    http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/pope-francis-message-to-mexico-holy-see-colloquium-on-human-migration-and-development

    In the name of compassion and caring, we need to fund the transfer of 50,000 of these poor, helpless children to the Vatican.

  • Protestants: It's time to come back

    07/14/2014 11:48:18 AM PDT · 110 of 647
    Mr Rogers to NKP_Vet

    “A majority vote by church leaders could launch an unsuspecting Protestant from the Spirit of the Gospel right into the spirit of the age...”

    Sola Scriptura. Standing firm against the traditions of man for 2000+ years!

    Of course, the Roman Catholic church believes in an evolving tradition, allowing new doctrines to rise to the surface.

  • Archie to be shot saving gay friend in comic book

    07/14/2014 7:26:18 AM PDT · 25 of 90
    Mr Rogers to Olog-hai

    “In “Life with Archie,” Keller [he] is a married military veteran and newly elected senator who’s pushing for more gun control in Riverdale after his husband was involved in a shooting.”

    If that is what Archie has become about, then killing Archie off is a mercy. The pity is that this sludge was ever printed in the first place!

  • Joel Brinkley: Why Is America Fighting and Dying for Proud Pedophiles?

    07/14/2014 7:18:53 AM PDT · 22 of 23
    Mr Rogers to sitetest

    “But Bush told us these were actually freedom-loving folks who yearned to be westerners.”

    Rush Limbaugh said the same thing. I believed both of them until I did a tour in Afghanistan in 2007.

    There is no innate yearning to be free in most people. Our own desire for it in the 1700s was due to a combination of a long Christian heritage combined with a lot of land that could be settled. Now that we have neither, our freedom is rapidly sliding away with the approval of the majority of the population. The American colonists would have taken up arms to defend their right not to rent a room in their house to a couple of practicing homosexuals...

    The normal desire of man is for security, not freedom. When societal order doesn’t arise from internal values, it will be imposed from the outside by the strong.