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This is the one that was stopped in fall 2009 AFTER the Brits warned Zippo about it sometime in the spring of 2009 IIRC and AFTER Air Force One just happened to fly over NYC making everyone think there was another terrorist attack planned for NYC.

Oh wait, there was an attack planned.

Too bad everyone thought AF1 flying over NYC was Obama mocking the 9/11 attack or Obama could have blamed Bush had the attack been successful.

Damn that Bush sure is lucky.

Give my best to Hillary.

Why did they plant the IRS question?

I believe it’s for “Conditioned Response”, same as repeat a lie enough times and you will eventually believe it.

They want everyone to say Obama used the IRS to target the TEA Party to get reelected, when in reality there was never any intention of Obama getting reelected until it was necessary for him to get reelected to cover up for Benghazi.

Hillary and Obama planned the attack in Libya as part of a plan to set Hillary up to run against Romney in 2016.

The idea was to make it appear as if Romney and the repubs planned the attack and collaborated with the terrorist to take Stevens hostage and make Zippo look like Peanuts Carter.

It was supposed to be October Surprise II.

“So, my answer is none of the above, there is no relationship between dem talking points and the attack.”

Actually that would be my third choice, just one giant coincidence that the dems talking points prior to the attack matched the terrorist attack.

You’re right, under the Obama adm. they aren’t stopping the attacks as a matter of fact we’ve been told the terrorist are so in tune with the news the terrorist can pick up on a news story plan and carry out a terrorist attack in a matter of just a few minutes. It’s “spontaneous”.

Sounds like the Obama adm disagrees with you about the dems talking points matching the terrorist attack being just a coincidence.

The Obama adm. chooses my second choice.

Just answer my question from post #42.

How do you explain the attempted car bombing in NYC matching the dems talking points before the attempted attack?

In post #42 I give you 4 possibilities as to how it happened.

If you have another explanation other than one of these 4 I give, then I would like to hear it.

He compared Patton having Rommel’s book to Snowden having Dick Chaney’s book as if he, Snowden, is fighting against Dick Chaney the same way Patton was fighting against Rommel.

Totally ridiculous.

DC hasn’t been around for over 4 years to imply DC is the one behind this is ridiculous. This is 100% Zippo’s doing not Dick Chaney’s.

He then said Snowden had DC’s book because DC had threatened his life.

Snowden had DC’s book BEFORE any info was released and long before Chaney made any statement concerning the leaks.

Again ridiculous.

Snowden having Dick Chaney’s book was nothing more than a prop.

His calling me “keyboard commando” also raises red flags.

That’s a favorite term of Obamabots and Clintonites when their carefully prepared talking points are shot down by someone without them having to break a sweat.

The person shooting down their talking points is called a “keyboard commando”.

Yes really.

One they picked up on was the attack planned for NYC in 2005 the one Bloomberg popped his mouth off about even though Bush ask him not to.

It was after that attempted attack the dems went nuts about Bush’s “illegal wiretapping”.

BTW, the dems did some nice “orchestrating of the news” prior to that attempted attack too.

So why don’t you answer my question now.

It isn’t useless.

The Bush adm was using the info to stop terrorist attacks, but for some strange reason the Obama adm. can’t.

Look at the attempted car bomb in NYC.

Prior to the attacks the Obama adm. and all his allies on the left began a coordinated attack against the TEA Party as being right wing extremist, racist, ultra violent, Tim McVeigh wanna-bees out to overthrow the govt of the US.

The car bomb attempt turned out to be a fertilizer bomb so the entire left claim that proved it had to be the TEA Party.

There is one of 3 possibilities, better yet lets increase it to 4 possibilities.

The Obama adm. orchestrated the news for the attack in order to blame the TEA Party.

The terrorist picked up on the dems. talking points about the TEA Party being a bunch of Tim McVeigh wanna-bees and planned their attack around the dems talking points.

It’s all just a giant coincidence that the terrorist attack and the dems talking points prior to the attack matched.

The TEA Party really did do it and the dems talking points about the TEA Party before the attack really are correct.

Tell me which one do you believe it is?

“Did you have the same problem with Patton having a copy of Rommel’s book?.”

Congratulations you have won the most ridiculous question of the day award.

As far as having Chaney’s book, he had it long BERORE DC made any comments.

You not only win the most ridiculous question award but also the most ridiculous statement award.

If Snowden was a hero as everyone claims he wouldn’t have released the info in the order that it was released.

He would have released the info on spying on foreign govts first to get the issue front and center, then he would have released the info the Obama adm was also spying on American citizens.

The way it’s been done he’s making it appear as if the so called “right wing extremist” are against fighting terrorist.

The little prop he had with him also raised my suspicions about this guy.

He is supposed to hate Dick Chaney but he had DC’s book, and now Zippo has himself a talking point “I’m no Dick Chaney”.

This guy is anything but a hero. He’s an Obama/Hillary operative and all this is part of the cover up of Benghazi as well as other terrorist attacks such as the Boston bombing.

If you haven’t noticed everyone is wondering with all this ability to gather info why weren’t terrorist attacks such as the attempted car bombing in NYC, and the Boston bombing stopped.

It isn’t anymore complicated than the Benghazi “spontaneous” lie which is “ the terrorist are so in tune with the news the terrorist can pick up on a news story plan and carry out a terrorist attack in just a few minutes, WITHOUT PLANNING, it’s spontaneous.

They are trying to make people believe that terrorist attacks aren’t being stopped because there is little or no PREPARATION for the terrorist attacks.

They not only tried to create this lie with Benghazi but also with the Boston bombing.

The Boston bombers had a plan for July 4, but changed it just a couple of days before to the Boston Marathon, then “SPONTANEOUSLY” planned to attack NYC.

Everyone is being played.

This is just part of an orchestrated defense as to why the Obama adm. isn’t stopping terrorist attacks.

I got a better idea.

How about neither one.

That kid corner cute little kitty trying to play with it and that cute little kitty will claw that kids eyes out.

Wild cats when cornered go for your face.

They also like to piss on you if you’re lucky enough to get out of their way before they can claw your eyes out.

Don’t believe me.

Try it sometime and prove me wrong.

You mean the terrorist attacks have achieved what the weather Underground was trying to achieve with it’s terrorist attacks?

What a coincidence.

I bet it’s also just a coincidence those terrorist are so in tune with the news they can pick up on a protest in Egypt then plan and carry out a terrorist attack in just a few minutes as if it was “spontaneous”.

What a coincidence, it’s just like the Weather Underground playbook.

Orchestrate civil unrest and race riots then carry out terrorist attacks.

When out of power use it to claim the govt is becoming a dictatorship when the govt is forced to respond to the attacks.

When in power, use the attacks to gain more power by claiming the oppression by the govt is necessary to stop the attacks.

I guarantee the same people that are now complaining that the cats were shot, would be the same people complaining that cats weren't shot it one of those wild little bastards clawed a kids eyes out.

Wild cats are anything but cute. Especially when you corner one.

They let it happen to support the “spontaneous” lie, just like Snowden is supporting the “spontaneous” lie.

The Benghazi “spontaneous” lie is nothing more complicated than “the terrorist are so in tune with the news they can pick up on a news story plan and carry out a terrorist attack in just a few minutes” meaning the attacks are spontaneous with little or no planning.

The Boston bombers were supposed to have had the terrorist attack planned for the 4th of July but changed at the last minute, and with just a couple of days planning carried out the bombing then “spontaneously” without any planning whatsoever planned to attack NYC.

With Snowden we’re being led to believe the Obama adm. is doing everything possible to stop terrorist attacks but can’t.

Why?

The terrorist are not planning the attacks long enough in advance to stop the attacks, they’re “spontaneous”.

You end up with a lie to support a lie to support another lie.

“I thought pot smokers were reputed to be a non-violent lot.”

They’re non-violent until somebody Bogart’s the joint don’t you know.

“RATS the size of DOGS.....”

That’s just ridiculous.

The maggots will have the rats down to bones before they’re much bigger than a cat.

I’ve been through it.

Sooner or later they have to justify what they are doing by “finding” criminal activity.

They will “find” the criminal activity by creating it themselves.

Yep I remember it quite well, and everyone was played for the fool into believing those files were important and a threat to repubs.

The actual number of files was over 15,000 and it was a threat to dems. not repubs. One of the files was my file.

As a matter of fact Janet Reno fired all the US attorneys to cover up what was in the 15,000 FBI files but nobody paid attention to it because everyone was too busy paying attention to the Clintons killing 80 people at Waco.

Vince Foster even tried to tell everyone, and you saw what happened to him.

As it stands right now I haven’t seen anything to convince me this Snowden guy is anything other than an Obama & Hillary operative and everyone is being played the fool.

She wakes up everyday with the thought

“My sister’s dead. I’m somebody now”

The worst part is when all hell breaks loose they will act surprised as if they never had a clue what was taking place and want to know “why didn’t someone tell me and why didn’t someone didn’t stop it”.

They will even go so far as to tell people that tried to warn them “you didn’t know”.

One that is going to be bit in the ass is Rush and his comment “non-violent coup” and “I live in Realville” implying anyone that doesn’t believe it’s non-violent as he does is living in Kookville.

When the violence of the left can no longer be denied, Rush and everyone else on the right that are so much smarter than the rest of us will claim they were right because it never was violent before it just turned violent.

“The hard left was always paranoid about government surveillance because they didn’t want to get caught plotting their revolution.”

Too many people on the right simply refuse to believe that statement.

Regardless of how much information they have in front of their face, they simply refuse to believe it.

They believe, simply because they want to believe, there has to be another explanation and will endlessly search for another explanation ignoring what is right in font of their face.

Listen to how many people on the right say “some of my best friends are leftist, THAY would never do that”.

They actually convince themselves because their leftist friends would never advocate a revolution, NO leftist would.

Wolf recognizes a police state is being created under Obama but you don’t.

You believe she’s just a drama queen.

I don’t think she’s the one with a problem.

I don’t know.

I do know this, she is right about this being a police state and the method of a police state is to put fear into people.

How many people from this adm. are now scared to contact the news media.

This WH appears to be scared to death they have themselves a Deep Throat type leaker leaking the inner workings of this WH and they can’t find him.

I don’t trust him.

I think he’s exactly what she believes he is, an Obama and Hillary operative.

I believe this is part of the cover up of Benghazi.

Tie some plastic surveyors tape to the wire in several places so it flaps in the wind.

They will see the tape and touch the wire with their nose.

Fungus

Give them a good spraying with a fungicide.

I use Daconil.

When Clinton learned Able Danger worked by working out patterns to terrorist attacks to stop future terrorist attacks, the same way they work out patterns to stop a serial killer, Clinton ended Able Danger.

The terrorist attacks are following the Weather Underground playbook.

There is a pattern to the news stories prior to the terrorist attacks and the spin to the news after the attacks and it’s Hillary that is orchestrating the news for the attacks and the spin after the attacks.

It’s called “conditioned response”.

It’s an attorneys trick used on a jury to string together what they want them to believe instead of the truth.

This is the exact same attorney trick we’ve seen Hillary use for over 20 years.

They are stringing together a story to cover up the truth about the terrorist attack in Benghazi being orchestrated by Hillary and Obama.

I don’t buy Snowden’s story.

I’m still of the opinion this guy is an Obama/Clinton operative and this “leak” was planned as part of the Benghazi cover up.

It’s going to be real hard for anyone that has been saying over and over again that Obama using the NSA to sweep up records is necessary to fight terrorism, to then turn and say Obama/Clinton have been collaborating with terrorist.

It appears to me they are using these scandals to create “conditioned responses” the same way an attorney will use “conditioned responses” to sway a jury.

Weather Underground playbook

Find an incident, a spark to ignite a flame, ratchet it up to a raging inferno

Orchestrate civil unrest and race riots then carry out a terrorist attack.

The Boston bombing wasn’t supposed to have taken place when it did, it was supposed to have taken place on July 4th, the same time as this trial.

The last time they stirred the race pot with Trayvon there was a terrorist attack planned for an airline, the same one the AP leaked about.

Another one of those terrorist attacks that just by coincidence always happen ever time the dems stir up civil unrest.

In late 1993 or early 1994 a Holocaust survivor said everyone was wrong about the Clinton’s and dems. taking us in to communism he said it was really Nazism coming back.

He even said way back then that the dems and muslims were in bed together just like the Nazis and muslims were.

I haven’t seen anything through the years to prove he was wrong.

The Nazis are back.

It’s called a pattern.

It’s how they track down serial killers.

They keep doing the same thing over and over again.

Have you ever noticed the chain of events leading up to the attempted fertilizer car bomb in NYC and the chain of events leading up to the OKC bombing are virtually the same?

Shortly after the 1994 election the dems started a talking points campaign on how violent the right wing extremist were and they wanted to as Howard Dean said in 2009, “kill” the President. This was supposed to be led by Rush.

Bill Clinton went to the Philippines and there was an assassination plot against Clinton.

Then you had the airline plot Bojinka out of the Philippines.

The talking points on the violent Militias kept heating up until the OKC bombing.

In 2009 the dems started a talking point campaign claiming the racist right wing extremist led by Glenn Beck wanted to see the president dead.

Hillary then takes a trip overseas and there is an assassination plot against Hillary.

Then you had the airline plot which you mentioned.

Then the dems started their talking points campaign that the TEA Party was a bunch of violent racist Tim McVeigh wanna-bees.

Then you had the attempted car bombing which was a fertilizer bomb just like OKC.

The chain of events is virtually the same.

That 2009 subway plot goes all the way back to late 2006 and was apparently planned for mid 2007, then again in 2008 right before the election, and apparently it was supposed to be planned for right after Zippo took office.

I don’t have a doubt when Air Force 1 flew over NYC in early 2009 that was a warning from Bush to Zippo not to let that attack take place and try to blame it on him.

The Brits then warned Zippo about the attack but he still did not stop it.

I July 2009 Zippo used the Gates dust up to try and gin up civil unrest and protest before the attack. When the protest didn’t materialize the attack was was finally stopped.

Yep after the dems try to gin up civil unrest and protest those terrorist just “spontaneously” planned an attack.

I’m not a computer tech guy so does proxy connections also cause a slight wait between clicking and a response from the computer and suddenly hearing conversations coming from my speakers?

I don’t know exactly when the talking points about the TEA Party being violent started but it mainly started with the TEA Party being called racist then the news media and dem operatives expanded it to violent racist, I believe that is also when we were given the phony “spitting on blacks” story.

IIRC it was one of the kooks at MSNBC that shortly before the attempted bombing, just a few days if I remember correctly, that they compared the TEA Party to a bunch of Tim McVeigh wanna-bees.

I think it was the idiot Bloomberg that first said the attempted bombing was the TEA Party because it was a fertilizer bomb.

There is some good news coming out of this.

In the last 20 minutes my computer suddenly recognized I don’t live in Salt Lake City.

Didn’t make any difference how many times I tried to change it, my computer listed me as living in Salt Lake City.

That was the attempted terrorist attack they tried to blame on the TEA Party because it was a fertilizer bomb.

The Obama WH, the entire dem party, all left wing organizations, and the entire left wing news media had started a talking points campaign prior to the attempted attack as to how the TEA Party was a bunch of right wing extremist, racist, ultra violent, Tim McVeigh wanna-bees out to overthrow the govt.

After the attempted bombing the entire left jumped for joy and claimed their talking points about the TEA Party were correct because the bomb was a fertilizer bomb like McVeigh used in OKC.

The bomber turned out to be a muslim, and the news media went silent.

There are 3 choices as to how the terrorist attacked matched the dems talking point campaign before the terrorist attack.

The dems orchestrated the news for the attack to blame the TEA Party for the attack.

The terrorist picked up on the dems talking points and “spontaneously” planned an attack based on the dems talking points.

It’s all one giant coincidence.

He may be talking about an al Qaeda document recovered in Afghanistan that came straight from Osama bin Laden.

It was listed as doc# AFGP-2002-600321 in what was the CTC at West Point Harmony Database.

From the info in that doc. Osama bin Laden himself puts his finger on Hillary's head as being behind the terrorist attacks.

Just a guess but I would say it’s a reference to the May 1, 2010 attempted terrorist attack in NYC being orchestrated by Obama and Hillary.

Pretty close but I believe it’s part of a “conditioned response” to get people to keep repeating over and over again that it’s necessary to fight terrorism to plant into peoples minds Obama is fighting terrorism when in fact Obama, Hillary and the rest of the dems are collaborating with terrorist.

You are right about the terrorist attack, there is a terrorist attack coming down the pike.

I’m expecting one with the Treyvon Martin protestors to touch off race riots throughout the country.

Yep it was at the end of 2005 and in January of 2006 the ACLU with the help of Al Jazera and Osama bin Laden tried to create what is basically the same “spontaneous” lie they used with the terrorist attack in Libya.

Snowden is an Obama/Hillary operative. This is part of the Benghazi cover up.

A terrorist attack and 4 people dead is just a tad bit more important than the IRS targeting conservatives.

The first time the NSA and illegal wiretapping, which wasn’t wiretapping at all, came up was 2005 after someone leaked classified info on a terrorist attack planned for NYC.

The ACLU filed suite against Bush for it. Then in January of 2006 the ACLU with the help of Al Jazera and Osama bin Laden and a tape he made tried to concoct something similar to the now famous “spontaneous” lie with Benghazi.

You want to believe in “just a coincidence” you go right ahead and believe it but I don’t.

People are being played a fool by this guy and this is part of a cover up by the Obama adm. to the truth about the terrorist attack in Benghazi.

See my post #41.

“Nothing to do with Alinsky tactics....”

Yes it is. Alinsky tactic of projection. Accuse your opponent of being guilty of what you do.

Right now they are turning the tables on the right by making it appear as if it’s a liberal dem.,Obama, that is fighting terrorist and it’s the people on the right that are trying to stop him from doing it.

The more I hear the more I’m convinced Snowden’s an Obama operative.

Snowden has created a “conditioned response”.

People on the left and right are saying the NSA info gathering is necessary to fight terrorism.

By constantly repeating this they are conditioning people to believe a lie that Obama is fighting terrorism but he simply went too far.

Obama isn’t fighting terrorism, he’s collaborating with the terrorist.

The Obama adm. collaborating with the terrorist is what was coming out with the Benghazi attack.

“Just think of the problems finding search volunteers had Helen Thomas or the Hillabeast done such a thing.”

You wouldn’t need a bunch of volunteers, all you would need is one very brave person.

Just look at which direction all the animals are running from and you would know exactly where they are.

Pretty close.

Ex girlfriend.

Told me she wasn’t going to leave and I couldn’t make her leave.

She was ranting about like that when she hit the ground as I threw her out the door.