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  • THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries

    10/01/2014 7:39:22 AM PDT · 1,398 of 1,399
    dsc to Elsie

    ” 27. “First let the children eat all they want,” he told her, “for it is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to their dogs.”

    My, my, another mistranslation.

    The Jews called everybody who wasn’t a Jew a “dog,” just like modern-day Japanese call everyone who isn’t Japanese a “gaijin” and Chinese call everyone who isn’t Chinese a “gwailoh.”

    He meant “dogs,” as in somebody not a Jew, not “their dogs,” as in dogs belonging to the children. That is just wrong.

  • THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries

    10/01/2014 7:34:05 AM PDT · 1,396 of 1,399
    dsc to Elsie

    “Thus; my success here...”

    Your admission is less gratifying than ironic.

  • THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries

    09/30/2014 6:45:30 PM PDT · 1,301 of 1,399
    dsc to Elsie

    “But narses just LOVES to post his 5 favorite pictures over and over”

    There are some people—none of whom post on FR, of course, but just some people—who never get anything, and never get that they didn’t get it.

    Narses’ pictures are not *false* information, you see, so...oh, why even bother?

    I’m going to look at some Catholic art, play some Catholic music, light a votive candle, burn some incense, and try to pray away all the filth that the fang and claw protestants have sloshed on me.

  • THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries

    09/30/2014 6:39:36 PM PDT · 1,295 of 1,399
    dsc to Elsie

    “The BOOK says...”

    It also says...

    And the city lieth in a four-square: and the length thereof is as great as the breadth. And he measured the city with the golden reed for twelve thousand furlongs: and the length and the height and the breadth thereof are equal.

    And that has as much to do with the matter at hand as the passage you quoted.

  • THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries

    09/30/2014 6:36:35 PM PDT · 1,291 of 1,399
    dsc to editor-surveyor

    “Historian is a high-falutin title for a common propagandist.”

    It’s funny how often ignorance and arrogance go together.

  • THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries

    09/30/2014 6:34:39 PM PDT · 1,289 of 1,399
    dsc to Diamond

    “...is a gross misrepresentation of that doctrine and the comments on this thread.”

    Not in the slightest. Fang and claw protestants argue that if it isn’t in the Bible it didn’t happen. Narrow-minded, simple-minded claptrap that insults God for endowing us with reason.

    Catholics demonstrate again and again that Catholic beliefs are “based on Scripture and are in full agreement with it.”

    Catholics show again and again that Traditions do not contradict the Bible, are of God, and are binding on the Christian conscience, and when there’s no place else to hide, fang and claw protestants just declare that it’s not in the Bible, declare victory, and keep up the insults.

    Not theological differences; childish, playground-bully insults. When someone tires of that bad behavior and says so, they start in with the archetypal bully-chant, “Don’t be such a sissy.”

    I wish I were more optimistic about any of the fang and claw protestants understanding this, but it is not thin-skinned to react with disgust to such bad behavior, and it is in no way wrong to say so.

    I guess the reason I come back here periodically is that the FR Religion Forum should be better than this, and I just can’t seem to resist trying to roll that boulder up the hill from time to time.

  • THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries

    09/30/2014 6:21:34 PM PDT · 1,282 of 1,399
    dsc to CynicalBear

    “You mean like when somebody accuses someone else of hitting abuse when they didn’t?”

    Know what the difference is? When the moderator said that no one hit the abuse button, I acknowledged my error and stopped repeating it.

    Some people not only keep repeating false information over and over again, they never acknowledge it when informed of the truth.

  • THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries

    09/30/2014 8:27:45 AM PDT · 1,189 of 1,399
    dsc to Elsie

    What? You mean there have been bad popes?

    You astound me, Homie.

    Here’s a joke for you:

    There were a couple of merchants who were friends, one a Catholic the other a Jew, and they were in constant discussions as to the superior nature of their chosen religions. At the time—around the 13th century—Christianity was on the rise, and the Jewish merchant was constantly amazed at the stream of conversions. The two friends attempted to convert each other, but neither could succeed. When on one occasion the Jewish man was planning a trip to Rome for business, he told his Catholic friend in a bit of a joking way that if what he found in Rome could convince him of the superiority of the Catholic church, he would convert. Upon hearing this, the Catholic man was fraught with fear, as the Rome of that period was as corrupt as could be. Bishops and Priests were selling dispensations and indulgences, while themselves participating in drunken debauchery and whoring. However, the Catholic merchant said nothing about this to his friend, hoping that he might not observe such things during his trip.

    The Jewish merchant made his trip, and upon his return came to his friend and stated that he would convert to the Catholic Religion. His friend was perplexed, and asked what had been the determining factor. The Jew then went on to describe the worst excesses of a corrupt era. The Catholic man was shocked at what he heard, and asked his friend why he would want to convert in the face of such corruption. The Jewish man said, “Only through divine intervention could the Church survive the depredations of such corrupt men.”

  • THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries

    09/30/2014 8:23:04 AM PDT · 1,188 of 1,399
    dsc to BlueDragon

    “You maybe should have considered “..at Judge Parker’s convenience...”

    The last time the protestants came after the Catholics in this country they had to misuse the KKK to do it. We survived.

  • THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries

    09/30/2014 8:21:23 AM PDT · 1,187 of 1,399
    dsc to Elsie

    “This? From a CATHOLIC?”

    Amazing. I really don’t know how people look at one thing and see another. That’s why I distrust a person’s motives when they say things that diverge wildly from the truth.

  • THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries

    09/30/2014 8:17:21 AM PDT · 1,185 of 1,399
    dsc to Syncro

    “but now that I see the mods have let you know”

    That’s what they said.

    “none of the “Protestants” turned you in for bad behavior”

    I have not exhibited any “bad behavior.” Putting fang and claw protestants’ bad behavior at 100, no Catholic has exceeded 15 here, and that only under extreme provocation.

    “You seem to have made up a “group” here in the RF”

    You need to look up the difference between “made up” and “observed.”

    “called the fang and claw protestants and accuse them of turning you in”

    Yeah, the predictability with which the moderator rides to their rescue led me to that opinion. When you think about it, it’s actually worse that no one hit the abuse button, because that means the moderator is taking the time and energy to be pro-active about it. I wonder if the moderator posts here under a different name.

    “Which they did not do.”

    I have already admitted that, based on the moderator’s statement. Dwelling on it is just bad form.

    “Not true, so wrong “opinions” twice.”

    Nope, still the same error, still once.

    “Wrong “opinion” again, third time.”

    No, that one is correct. To hide their own thin-skinned behavior and distract the eye from their own bad behavior, the fang and claw protestants do, in fact, make a habit of slinging around false accusations of over-sensitivity.

    You see, the moderators do allow personal insults here, so long as the poster is a tiny bit clever about it. I have demonstrated that on numerous occasions, and you demonstrate it once again by putting the word “opinion” in danger quotes.

    *“As has been mentioned many times, if you (or any poster) is too thinskinned for the open threads, they should not be on them.”*

    I really hate a bully.

    “What’s wrong with that. It sounds like good advice to me?”

    On a level playing field, there might be nothing wrong with it. What’s wrong with it here is that it translates to this: “We will insult you and lie about you to our heart’s content, and you will not be allowed to answer with the truth, so shut up.”

    “What a concept! The posters arguing against the assumption of Mary”

    They haven’t been “arguing,” in the correct sense of the word. The only argument they have is “it ain’t in da Biibull,” which is also true of things like the weather on the day of Jesus’ baptism. Since it’s not in the Bible, I assume there was no weather on that day. It was neither hot nor cold nor medium, it was neither sunny nor cloudy, windy nor not windy...there just wasn’t any weather that day, because it isn’t mentioned in the Bible.

    “Non Catholic Christians don’t give those writings the weight of wisdom from God”

    Do what?

    “they (we) use the Bible...”

    ...incorrectly, to propagate error.

  • THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries

    09/30/2014 12:05:58 AM PDT · 1,133 of 1,399
    dsc to editor-surveyor

    “He was a fool and a liar!”

    James Michener, historian and historical novelist, was a fool and a liar.

    I call that pretty bold talk.

  • THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries

    09/29/2014 11:05:52 PM PDT · 1,132 of 1,399
    dsc to Religion Moderator

    “Posts such as this one of yours, filled with false information and claims, can cause flame wars.”

    Filled with false information and claims? Really?

    It seems that I was wrong when I claimed that someone hit the abuse button. That’s one. If my post is “filled with false information and claims,” where are the others? That is an extremely hostile and demeaning remark.

    The silver lining on that cloud is that now I know.

  • THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries

    09/29/2014 2:46:48 PM PDT · 897 of 1,399
    dsc to Elsie

    “What was it you said?”

    Having seen a given poster informed of a given fact on numerous occasions, I came to the conclusion that the poster was aware of that fact.

    This, apparently, constitutes “mind-reading” — when it is convenient.

    “Remember Torquemada”

    Which one? The one that exists only in what James Michener called “the Black Legend,” or the historical figure?

    He also wrote that no one who could say, I am a Jew, I have always been a Jew, and everyone has always known that I am a Jew, was ever punished by the Inquisition.

  • Sowell: Random Thoughts

    09/29/2014 2:38:48 PM PDT · 8 of 14
    dsc to Arm_Bears

    “Republicans in DC can’t wait to roll-over for Obama.”

    So, what can be done?

  • THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries

    09/29/2014 2:13:27 PM PDT · 887 of 1,399
    dsc to Syncro

    “As has been mentioned many times, if you (or any poster) is too thinskinned for the open threads, they should not be on them.”

    Vladimir Ilyich Lenin said, “Accuse others of what you do.”

    The fang and claw crowd wants to deflect attention from the circumstances of this set-to, which are these:

    This particular kerfluffle began with one or more of the fang and claw protestants hitting the abuse button over something I said.

    It started with *them* being thin-skinned. To hide this, they immediately started slinging accusations that *others* are being too sensitive.

    Occasionally I am motivated to comment on the bias in the moderating here. I don’t really know why, because it is the very tone the management wants.

    In the final analysis, though, it was not I who brought the moderator in with false accusations of “mind reading.” It was the fang and claw protestants that wanted to ensure that the strongest arguments against them are stifled, and, whether he did so knowingly or not, the moderator became their cat’s paw.

    Remember Sinkspur.

  • THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries

    09/27/2014 6:52:48 PM PDT · 123 of 1,399
    dsc to boatbums

    “What you probably mean is that you don’t like that Catholicism is freely disputed here by other Freepers who aren’t Catholic.”

    No, what I actually mean is that the management is hostile toward Catholicism.

    You don’t “freely dispute” Catholicism; you malign it with the constant repetition of “inaccuracies.”

    Unreason, malice, dishonesty, all are protected here so long as they are directed at Catholics—personally—and Catholicism.

  • THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries

    09/27/2014 1:24:25 PM PDT · 48 of 1,399
    dsc to narses

    Catholicism has never been liked here.

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/27/2014 1:33:29 AM PDT · 2,072 of 2,148
    dsc to WVKayaker

    “It seems the ones trolling on this thread are the ones insisting that they cannot err as long as they follow Rome.”

    That is no part of Catholic doctrine, nor has it ever been. It is astounding that you could be unaware of that.

    “Yet, when confronted with Scripture refutations of their folly, they insist the others are not conforming to their ideas as dictated by Rome.”

    Your restatement of others’ remarks is inaccurate in the extreme. No one has made such an argument.

    “Scripture is just something taken out of context to use as a springboard for establishing some alleged validity to their traditions of men.”

    The FR Religion Forum is a place where liars can ply their mischief freely, secure in the knowledge that it is forbidden here to characterize a lie as a lie.

    “Jesus warned us against them!”

    Jesus called Satan “the father of lies.”

    “not into some manmade institution that requires rote response and blind allegiance.”

    There are two inaccuracies in that passage: the Church is not man-made, nor does it ask blind allegiance. You really should investigate those things before you go around spreading…inaccuracies.

    “It was Benedict XVI who amended the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) before he became pope.”

    Right, because he had authority to act alone, and no one could overrule him. (Man, the things some people believe.)

    “…a lie of course”

    A lie does not arise from confusion, ignorance, honest mistake, or even sensationalism. Lying is this, no more and no less: “deliberately uttering or causing to be uttered statements known to be false for the purpose of deceiving the listener or reader, or causing visual media to be edited or falsified in such a way as to deceive the viewer.”

    “Apparently, Roman Catholics do not believe Jesus is the Creator, either.”

    So, I guess here we must assume that the writer is speaking from confusion, ignorance, honest mistake, or sensationalism (hyperbole, in this instance), because the other alternative is not allowed.

    “The CCC says…”

    The CCC is not Divinely Inspired. It is neither prescriptive nor proscriptive, in that all tenets of faith are grounded in other sources that are Divinely Inspired.

    “Pope John Paul II repeated this statement even more clearly…”

    John Paul the Hastily Canonized was not speaking ex cathedra. Ergo, Catholics are free to disagree with him on this point. I personally think St. JPII was wrong, although he may have been trying to avoid sparking the sort of Christian genocide seen throughout the region during the “Arab Spring.”

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/27/2014 12:41:09 AM PDT · 2,069 of 2,148
    dsc to Elsie

    “It would be the ‘right’ thing to do.”

    Perhaps it would seem so to a child.

  • Blood of San Gennaro Liquefies -- VIDEO

    09/27/2014 12:40:12 AM PDT · 361 of 363
    dsc to Elsie

    “Or someone with thin skin that is getting their widdle feewings hurt...”

    In the absence of information, anyone can say anything.

    For instance, I could say Protestants over Catholics 100 to 1.

  • Why You Shouldn’t Sleep With Your Boyfriend

    09/26/2014 5:49:32 PM PDT · 28 of 31
    dsc to Chickensoup

    “that should liven up the conversation. But it is true. A woman who is having good sex is one that wants to please and look good. Frequent good sex keeps couples happy including women.”

    It has been observed that both men and women gain weight when they are happy in their relationships and lose weight when they go on the prowl.

  • Blood of San Gennaro Liquefies -- VIDEO

    09/26/2014 4:24:32 PM PDT · 359 of 363
    dsc to Elsie

    “At least have the intellectual honesty to distrust ROME when it is are pimping for a pet cause...”

    I always distrust anyone who “is are” grinding an axe, until I look into things for myself.

    How about I accuse the pastor of your church of “pimping” for something?

    I wish I could see who clicks the “abuse” button and what for.

  • Blood of San Gennaro Liquefies -- VIDEO

    09/26/2014 4:21:34 PM PDT · 358 of 363
    dsc to Elsie

    “I’ll bow out; deferring to your great scientific expertise.”

    Do your homework.

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/26/2014 4:20:48 PM PDT · 1,864 of 2,148
    dsc to Religion Moderator

    Has it never occurred to you that a prohibition on calling a lie what it is serves only to advantage liars?

    This is a very bad rule.

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/25/2014 11:49:34 PM PDT · 1,635 of 2,148
    dsc to Religion Moderator

    “The mindreading comes in with the statement “You know that.”

    As I explained, I know that he has been told “that” on numerous occasions. That is not mindreading. It is observation.

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/25/2014 10:54:15 PM PDT · 1,608 of 2,148
    dsc to Religion Moderator

    “Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.”

    Where did I do that?

    “Also be aware that mindreading on the Religion Forum is not allowed.”

    I engaged in no “mindreading.” Is it also forbidden to understand the implications of what posters write?

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/25/2014 1:35:12 PM PDT · 1,422 of 2,148
    dsc to CynicalBear

    “I said I was, I meant I was and I didn’t stutter.”

    But you were wrong.

    “The arrogance of your comments is stunning.”

    I know it must look like that from your perspective, but I just don’t have the patience to sugar-coat it today.

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/25/2014 1:33:30 PM PDT · 1,420 of 2,148
    dsc to CynicalBear

    “Once again with the mind reading.”

    Not at all. I’ve seen you instructed in that a number of times.

    It is typical of leftists—theological or other—that they try to get the opposition silenced, so keep accusing me of “mind reading.” Who knows, the moderator might believe you.

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/25/2014 1:29:51 PM PDT · 1,419 of 2,148
    dsc to metmom

    “Mockery.”

    Humor.

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/25/2014 1:29:22 PM PDT · 1,418 of 2,148
    dsc to CynicalBear

    “Who do you think you are telling people what they know or don’t know?”

    Someone capable of discerning that from their remarks.

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/25/2014 1:27:23 PM PDT · 1,415 of 2,148
    dsc to CynicalBear

    “You can read minds now?”

    Following a stated proposition to its necessary conclusion is not mind reading.

    If I were mind-reading around here I’d be starved for material.

  • Blood of San Gennaro Liquefies -- VIDEO

    09/25/2014 1:25:47 PM PDT · 352 of 363
    dsc to Elsie

    “Nature, Vol. 337, No. 6208, pp. 611-615”

    Nature is scorned on FR as a politicized tool of greentard wankers.

    The official report lies, as has been substantiated.

    At least have the intellectual honesty to distrust Nature when they are pimping for a pet cause, as well as when they are beating the drum for anthropogenic global warming.

    I’m going to go do family stuff now, involving football practice, a farmer’s market, and a pool league, in that order.

  • Blood of San Gennaro Liquefies -- VIDEO

    09/25/2014 1:16:57 PM PDT · 351 of 363
    dsc to Elsie

    “So; NO tests were done on any part of the Shroud that was not cut out; right?”

    Do you ever have a discussion without having to try these silly little gotcha games? Grow up, already.

    It has been posted here that “The shroud has been subjected to numerous scientific tests over the years, culminating in 1988 with a radiocarbon measurement and dating procedure.”

    This is the only test that matters for the purposes of this discussion, as should not have needed stating.

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/25/2014 1:10:21 PM PDT · 1,407 of 2,148
    dsc to CynicalBear

    “Proof from scripture please. Book and chapter.”

    I do not insist that God never said anything that is not in the Bible.

    The Bible doesn’t say that.

    God never said that.

    I know it to be false, from first-hand experience.

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/25/2014 1:05:47 PM PDT · 1,405 of 2,148
    dsc to metmom

    “And I didn’t say that either.”

    Road apples. You may think you are saying something “deeper” or “more intellectual” than that, but your position boils down to a prohibition on love or veneration for anyone or anything except God.

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/25/2014 1:03:37 PM PDT · 1,403 of 2,148
    dsc to metmom

    “That is not license to make up stuff and pass it off as truth.”

    I don’t believe that one needs “make up” your reliance on sola scriptura.

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/25/2014 1:02:10 PM PDT · 1,401 of 2,148
    dsc to CynicalBear

    “Why do Catholics always twist someone’s words?”

    That is a malicious lie.

    “No one has said love for someone is idolitry.”

    They sure did. You and others just love to repeat the lie that veneration for Mary and others is idolatry.

    “It’s when that “love” comes before Christ.”

    Which, in the Catholic Church, it never does. You know that, and I suspect that God will hold you responsible for your every reiteration of that lie.

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/25/2014 12:55:28 PM PDT · 1,398 of 2,148
    dsc to kinsman redeemer

    “I’d like to know what version you quoted, please.”

    Now what hobby horse are you off on?

    Most of them include the word “first,” while the others use the synonym “foremost” and the synonym “most important.”

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/25/2014 12:51:49 PM PDT · 1,397 of 2,148
    dsc to metmom

    “Chapter and verse?”

    I actually laughed when I read that.

    It’s pathetic.

    “God GIVES us gifts, He doesn’t OFFER them”

    Considering that He leaves you free to hurl them back in his face, the word “offer” is completely correct.

    “and they are listed in 1 Corinthians 12 and Romans 12.”

    Laughing again, more sadly.

    Protestantism in its more virulent forms is theological leftism.

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/25/2014 12:48:43 PM PDT · 1,396 of 2,148
    dsc to metmom

    “On what planet?”

    Yours.

    “A person can be saved without being baptized, but nobody ever said that baptism is *false*.”

    You do, in your next sentence.

    Besides, you can’t rebut the observed phenomenon with one cherry-picked instance.

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/25/2014 12:46:21 PM PDT · 1,395 of 2,148
    dsc to CynicalBear

    To those who speak English, to “depend on” something and to comprise the whole of something are not synonymous.

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/25/2014 9:11:40 AM PDT · 1,381 of 2,148
    dsc to metmom

    Let’s recap the action.

    I wrote, “He said it was the first commandment. He didn’t say it was the first of two. A person would have to be a drooling moron to think that God left us only two instructions.”

    You replied, “Wrong. He said it was the GREATEST commandment, not the first.”

    I replied, “Read down a little further.”

    To which you answered, “He never said the second was the greatest. He said the second is like it.
    How can there be two greatest commandments?”

    This seems to me a complete non sequitur.

    What I meant was read down to Matthew 22:38. “This is the greatest and the first commandment.”

    Those passages do not say that we are to have no love for anyone or anything except God.

    Some people here seem to think they say that, but they do not.

    “Link?”

    www.freerepublic.com

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/25/2014 8:23:06 AM PDT · 1,380 of 2,148
    dsc to metmom

    “Talk about bilgewater.....”

    How would you know? You have no experience of it. Your opinion on the matter is worthless.

    “We are to be set apart for God and to God and NO ONE ELSE.”

    Because there were Protestants in my life whom I loved and respected, I thought my mother was too harsh when she called them petty and narrow-minded.

    “To do so is idolatry.”

    Okay, so in your world, to love someone whom Christ loves is idolatry. Wow. I sure am glad that your world is not the one God created.

    “If Catholicism is so tied to Mary, then it’s not about Jesus.”

    That idea is petty and narrow-minded. God gives with both hands, freely and generously. He gives us wise men to guide us, holy men to show us the way, Saint Joseph to be an example to fathers; the Blessed Virgin Mary to be an example to mothers; Saint Peter to teach us about courage, loyalty, and human failings; Saul of Tarsus to teach us that we can be wrong, and Saint Paul to teach us that even if we are wrong, God can put us right—et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

    “If Mary had played such a pivotal role in salvation, God would have told us in Scripture”

    Right, sure, that idea is not petty and narrow-minded, because everything God has ever wanted to communicate to us or will ever want to communicate to us is in there. And the KJV is not incomplete and rife with translation errors.

    Here’s some news: God still communicates with us; sometimes directly, sometimes through saints. He still works miracles. And sometimes He chooses to allow the Blessed Virgin Mary or some other saint to be the agent of His works.

    “All that extraneous stuff that Catholicism loves to add on about Mary is NOWHERE mentioned in Scripture by the Holy Spirit.”

    So, if God talks to you, you’re going to reject what He says because it’s not in scripture. Good thinking.

    “Mary fulfilled the role God had for her when she, as a virgin, gave birth to Jesus. That was ALL she had to do to fulfill prophecy and once that was done, there is nothing about her life that had or has any bearing on Jesus bringing salvation to the world, or the Holy Spirit working our salvation out in us.”

    Reading that filled my nose with the stench of Satan. It’s frightening. Martin Luther would probably have dealt a severe beating to anyone who said that.

    “Mary has no power to do what is God’s work alone”

    Mary has whatever power God chooses to give her, as is true of all His creatures. We Catholics are aware that, out of love for us, God has given Mary power and authority to help the living. You protestants, for whatever twisted reasons, insist that God is not capable of using Mary—or, apparently, anyone else—as He pleases.

    “and to claim that she does diminished the work of God and exalts her beyond what ought to be for a human being”

    Bilgewater. A God who can create the universe, all that is visible and invisible, can certainly use His creatures as He pleases. Since Mary wants to help us, God allows her to warn and comfort, and when she prays to Him, He listens. It is truly tragic that you Protestants cut yourselves off from the gifts God offers to us.

    “God will share His glory with no other.”

    Your god is a third-grader. Your god is stingy. Your god only gives his creatures a tiny fraction of what God offers. Your god is a limited god, a god who can’t rise above human failings, a god who thinks, as did the elder brother of the prodigal son, that anything received by anyone else diminishes himself.

    Shake off your ego. Admit that you could have been wrong all these years. Come worship God, the real God, the One who is above pettiness, who can allow His creatures to help Him in His plan—not because He needs help, but because He is infinitely loving. Come worship God, who doesn’t scrimp on blessings, who doesn’t give just the bare minimum needed to scrape our way to salvation, but showers blessings on us even beyond our ability to comprehend.

    Some Protestants think “If a person could be saved without this, it must be false.” That’s the way their god rolls. But God wants everyone to be saved, so he gives more than just the bare minimum. If a person *could* be saved without something, that means he *might not* be saved without it, so God offers it anyway—and this, and that, and the other thing, whatever might help.

    And you Protestants just fling it back in His face, judge for yourselves what is “necessary” to salvation, and, in so doing, impoverish yourselves spiritually.

    Stop that. Come worship God.

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    09/25/2014 7:11:52 AM PDT · 1,378 of 2,148
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    “Wrong. He said it was the GREATEST commandment, not the first.”

    Read down a little further.

    And you guys are so proud of your knowledge of scripture.

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    09/24/2014 4:29:40 PM PDT · 1,245 of 2,148
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    “It is true.”

    It is hogwash.

    “Real Christians pray to Jesus not someone who is dead.”

    Jesus tells us that souls do not die.

    “Why don’t y’all believe the Bible?”

    We do. Even the parts you have senselessly rejected. However, we are not silly enough to think that God has given us nothing else.

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    09/24/2014 4:26:54 PM PDT · 1,243 of 2,148
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    “Was that response the extent of your theological acumen?”

    In the same way that your view of Christianity is the extent of Christianity.

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/24/2014 4:25:20 PM PDT · 1,242 of 2,148
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    “If you consecrate yourself to someone, it is to the exclusion of others. If it’s to Mary, it’s not to God. If it’s to God, it’s not to Mary”

    Ah, a simple error of fact.

    Just as a sorrow shared is a sorrow halved, but a joy shared is a joy doubled, consecration to Mary has the result of strengthening one’s love for God.

    Stop looking on the dark side of everything.

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    09/24/2014 4:11:18 PM PDT · 1,241 of 2,148
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    “Just about every day, there is a thread about that.”

    Never one. Not in the history of FR.

  • Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

    09/24/2014 4:10:05 PM PDT · 1,240 of 2,148
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    “That leaves room for no one else.”

    Bilgewater. Buncombe. Nonsense.

    He said it was the first commandment. He didn’t say it was the first of two. A person would have to be a drooling moron to think that God left us only two instructions.