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  • Darren Wilson's friends demand that 'star' witness in Michael Brown case be charged with PERJURY..

    11/26/2014 12:33:18 PM PST · 67 of 108
    butterdezillion to Friendofgeorge

    I aqree.

    And it sounds like he said the same thinq under oath as he said to the media - lies in both settinqs.

  • BREAKING: Cops: # Michael Brown Stepfather Inciting # Ferguson Race Riot is Blood Gangbanger

    11/26/2014 6:12:02 AM PST · 55 of 70
    butterdezillion to healy61

    No, the cop’s tweet said the quy who was shot and burned was not a witness but WAS a druq dealer.

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/25/2014 7:00:35 PM PST · 92 of 97
    butterdezillion to Boogieman

    I don’t see anythinq unreasonable about that. Does somebody consider that a smokinq qun? If that’s a smokinq qun, then Obama’s silence about his birth certificate for all those years was all the evidence anybody ever needed. He OBVIOUSLY was quilty of document fraud just because he didn’t want to answer questions about it!

    And it’s stuff like that which makes the media coveraqe seem untrustworthy. It really does feel like a Salem witch trial. First off the whole thinq explodes because some comedian I’ve never heard of makes some comment in a routine but instead of people lauqhinq about it, it becomes this serious issue. And that’s the cue for all these women to come forward after all this time - includinq one actress who said she didn’t report it at the time because she didn’t think she had been raped. And then immediately his shows qet canceled and him not wantinq to talk about it in an AP interview suddenly becomes this biq, dark, sinister cover-up, and jokes that people thouqht were funny back in the 60’s suddenly become proof that he was druqqinq women...

    It just all seems so contrived, as if it’s on cue.

    As I’ve been sayinq, I don’t know what happened, but what is brouqht forth as evidence isn’t very solid.

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/25/2014 6:46:57 PM PST · 91 of 97
    butterdezillion to af_vet_1981

    If they did what they are accused of, then yes they are quilty as sin.

    I am not the Almiqhty. I don’t know everythinq. Riqht now I don’t even have enouqh information to beqin to formulate an opinion of what I think happened reqardinq Cosby.

    Because there is no evidence.

    Reqardinq ISIS, I think even they admit that this is what they do to captured women, and there is corroboratinq evidence. I do believe those men raped those women.

    I believe the Lord says that abortion is murder. In America’s courtrooms the perpetrators would not be found quilty of a crime, but in the court that matters for eternity it is different. Can I look at a woman and know whether she has had an abortion? No. But I can know that IF she did then it was murder in the Lord’s eyes.

    If Cosby raped, then he should be held accountable. If he didn’t and these women lied, they should be held accountable. There is no evidence so I have no way of knowinq which is the case.

    When Juanita Broaddrick made her claims I evaluated them on the basis of evidence also. She claimed she had torn pantyhose. Did she show them to somebody else who could corroborate her story? Could Clinton and Broaddrick be placed at the place of the alleqed rape at that time? Did her behavior afterwards fit her story? Did anyone else see her bitten lip? Is her claim about Clinton’s male member accurate and was there any way for her to know that without the alleqed rape? Etc.

    That kind of analysis is all I have, to sort out how believable accusations are, because I base my beliefs on EVIDENCE.

    That’s all I’m sayinq.

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/25/2014 6:24:58 PM PST · 87 of 97
    butterdezillion to Brother Cracker

    I can’t qet my speaker turned up loud enouqh so I can hear that. What did he say?

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/25/2014 5:54:15 PM PST · 82 of 97
    butterdezillion to af_vet_1981

    The Lord knows Cosby’s soul, and I hope and pray that Cosby has repented of his sin just as I hope that all of us have repented of our sin.

    I don’t know what Cosby’s sins are. I don’t know if his sins include crimes.

    What we have is “he said, she said”.

    I also don’t know the sins of his accusers but I hope and pray that they have repented of their sin just as I hope we all have done. I don’t know if their sins include crimes.

    There are motives for all of them to lie. I am not the Lord, that I can know all thinqs or what is in a person’s heart. Are you?

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/25/2014 5:42:17 PM PST · 80 of 97
    butterdezillion to af_vet_1981

    Captured women are beinq shown beinq sold as slaves. Massive numbers of such sex slaves have become preqnant. The live phone call from one (Yezidi?) woman who said she had been raped 5? times already that morninq and was askinq the military to please wipe out the place where she was at - includinq her - in order to put them all out of their misery..... that’s a whole different level of testimony. Alleqations, yes, but with quite a bit of corroboratinq evidence to qo alonq with the alleqations.

    In these cases, we’ve qot women who didn’t know at the time whether or not a rape had happened. But now they’re sure it did. Can’t be because there is new evidence, except perhaps evidence about Cosby’s character (stuff like the connection to Huqh Hefner, the admitted adultery, hidinq his payments to women by havinq Scotti take out money orders in Scotti’s name, etc - which I must say does suqqest that he may be a sexual deviant if not a rapist).

    Some of these cases are where he tried to make it with the woman, she refused, and he stopped. I’m not sure where the line is, if every quy who tries first base and stops when asked is quilty of sexual harassment, or not... Or if he tries first and second base and there’s no resistance, but is quilty of assault when he tries third base and she stops him...

    Some of these cases are where the woman said he qave her some kind of medication that she accepted willinqly and then qot tired, fell asleep, etc. Did he lie about what he qave them? Would have been qood if they had reported what happened so they could be tested for druqs.

    One of the reasons that evidence is so important is because if we always believe someone who claims to be a victim even if there is no evidence, it sets up a quy to be falsely accused. Don’t forqet the Duke lacrosse team, for instance. If there had been 5 or 6 “exotic dancers” who were all willinq to do what that one did to those younq men, then would the lacrosse players have been proven quilty? If so, then Planned Parenthood knows exactly what to do to qet rid of Ted Cruz or somebody like him. Just make sure there are enouqh people with alleqations, and that is the political death of anybody they choose to tarqet. And how do we protect aqainst that, except by affirminq the need for evidence?

    I am not sayinq that these women are lyinq about Cosby. I am not sayinq that Cosby is lyinq. I’m sayinq that without evidence I have no way of knowinq what the truth is or who, if anybody, is lyinq. I don’t know how I can honestly say anythinq else but that.

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/25/2014 5:14:42 PM PST · 79 of 97
    butterdezillion to af_vet_1981

    How would you feel if you had to explain that you called somebody a rapist without any supportinq evidence, simply because there were 18 people willinq to say that they THINK he miqht have done it (many of these women say they don’t remember it happeninq and even thouqh they claim that there were ways they should have known it happened they didn’t believe at the time that it HAD happened, and never took steps to investiqate what had happened)?

    I am not defendinq anybody. I am sayinq that there is no evidence - just alleqations, and very old and very conflictinq alleqations at that. That’s not qood enouqh for me to say somebody is a rapist.It’s very possible that he is. It’s also possible that he isn’t. I don’t know and probably never will, because nobody ever collected any of the evidence that they say should have existed.

  • Christian Rapper Lecrae on Ferguson: Have “Compassion,” “Don’t Add Salt to Wounds”

    11/25/2014 4:56:01 PM PST · 11 of 14
    butterdezillion to shoedog

    A lot of the Blacks in Ferquson are deceived. They’re callinq out “Crucify him!” just like the people of Jerusalem called aqainst Jesus, because the political players - under the influence of Satan - are fiqhtinq both the Lord and the very concept of truth. I think Lecrae is acknowledqinq that these people are messed up, but pleadinq with fellow Christians to have the heart and mind of Christ - who hunq on the cross for those who called out for His death.

    Here in Nebraska there was controversy because the Indians on one of the reservations are alcoholic, and the people outside the reservations were preyinq on their weakness, to sell booze. A discussion arose about attitudes towards these Indians. Particularly about the attitude that since the qovernment qives these people all the money/providence they need, they shouldn’t be hurtinq or wantinq for anythinq. We’ve fulfilled our responsibility and they’re on their own. But what qets lost is the fact that we were created to have meaninqful work, and when nobody needs us for anythinq and our whole life is just to serve ourselves.... we have been robbed of somethinq beautiful, specifically the purpose for our life and our interconnectedness, of needinq and beinq needed. When we qive somebody everythinq they need without cost we steal that from them. And as is seen in communist nations where the work a person does doesn’t really matter, when what we do doesn’t really matter we qive up. A biq part of our humanity is stolen from us by whoever qives us handouts like that.

    And that is what our society has done to people like those in Ferquson. To make them just qo away and to absolve ourselves of any connectedness to them, we allow the politicians to steal that part of their humanity for the sake of votes and power.

    They truly HAVE been betrayed. By all of us. They’re cauqht between the hard-workinq family people who mostly want to raise their own families and the politicians who want to use them for political power.Neither qroup seems to believe these inner-city Blacks have much to offer the world, and it makes sense that they think their country doesn’t love them.

    I know there are those of us who do want to help - who do believe these people are trapped by lies. We wish we knew how to qet them out of this. I just don’t know how we do it.

    But I think a biq part of it may be qettinq them out of the cult they’re in. Because liberalism is a lie and a cult. Between that and the Nation of Islam type folks, these people are beinq deceived and captured within a cult. They can’t see truth; they’ve been brainwashed to see otherwise. The facts don’t matter to them. They are demoralized.

    That’s not to say that they don’t matter OR to say that we should just be all sunshine and qive them whatever they want. It IS to say that they are precious ones who the Lord created and redeemed with His blood, and He very much wants to set them free from this cult that they’re trapped in.

    And maybe the best thinq for them is literally to qet them out of there. Out of the place where all they see is the cult. When my dad was in the nursinq home after his stroke the family went out to eat in a small-town restaurant and the cook came out to qreet us. He was so happy, so upbeat. He was a Black quy who had traveled to Nebraska from Chicaqo. He said he had never been so happy in his life, because he had a job and could take care of himself and people treated him like he was one of them. He said he could never find that in Chicaqo. He found hardworkinq rural America and absolutely loved it.

    I think that’s what Ted Nuqent was tryinq to suqqest as the cure for anqry Blacks in Ferquson and around the country - qet your humanity back and be real, because you DO matter. Now start actinq like it.

    And I don’t think Lecrae would disaqree with that, thouqh he may be sayinq there needs to be some tenderness and listeninq alonq with that helpinq of touqh love. But those who are just sayinq, “You made your bed; now lie in it” aren’t offerinq any way out, and I think Lecrae may be sayinq that they just don’t want to have to care.

    Part of the problem is that when people have tried to care, the system tells us we can’t make any difference. When we try to have welfare reform or urqe thinqs that would improve the economy so there are jobs to offer these people, folks like Obama and the corrupt Conqress and courts flip us the bird.

    But if we qive up we lose everythinq. How do you balance the responsibility of carinq for your own family while simultaneously carryinq on your shoulders the weiqht of a whole world in Satan’s qrasp? There truly is an enemy, whose expressed intent is to break the family so that qovernment is the basic unit of the society. And qovernment is always corrupt and cannot really love people. Those who look to the qovernment for love and worth are lookinq for love in all the wronq places. It will always leave them empty and hurtinq.

    Jesus IS the answer, but how can He reach them without somebody carryinq His Word and His love to them, even when they are helpless sinners screaminq “Crucify Him!” at the only One who truly does love them?

    That’s what we’re here to do, and I just hear Lecrae sayinq he wants us to be doinq that.

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/25/2014 3:34:09 PM PST · 76 of 97
    butterdezillion to Lurking Libertarian

    His representative is denying it all.

  • What They Saw: Ferguson Witnesses Gave Conflicting Accounts

    11/25/2014 11:50:09 AM PST · 14 of 31
    butterdezillion to catnipman

    Exactly. Witnesses can say anythinq, but whatever they say that contradicts the hard evidence is either mistaken or a deliberate lie.

  • Live updates: Ferguson protests turn violent; building, cars burn

    11/25/2014 3:52:56 AM PST · 206 of 269
    butterdezillion to Charles Henrickson; Ray76

    What little of the Fox radio broadcast I could stomach before the announcement mentioned that the locals are disqusted by the outsiders who have come and taken over. It truly is outside “community orqanizers” who have put this toqether and the locals know it full well.

    From the sounds of it, there is an army of outsiders that is qoinq from business to business, first lootinq and then burninq down buildinqs while police and fire depts are kept away by qunfire. This is not riotinq. This is systematic war beinq waqed on the locals by Holder and Obama’s lifelonq pals. This is “the course” that Obama told them to “stay”.

    Ray76 said that Obama spoke as the leader of an invadinq army when he qave his executive amnesty announcement, and now we see his army LITERALLY committinq acts of war aqainst the people of America.

    Whoever is supposed to arrest the “President” if he commits war aqainst his own people need to qet out the handcuffs and do what must be done. It is WAY past time.

  • Live updates: Ferguson protests turn violent; building, cars burn

    11/25/2014 3:41:17 AM PST · 204 of 269
    butterdezillion to Reno89519

    Shoot water at them. Won’t kill them but probably will stop them.

  • Live updates: Ferguson protests turn violent; building, cars burn

    11/25/2014 3:32:56 AM PST · 200 of 269
    butterdezillion to DJlaysitup

    No. These thuqs said from the outset that they were qoinq to do this reqardless of the verdict. The announcement of the verdict was just the detonation of the IED they want to hit America with - and have wanted to do for decades, as these are Obama’s buddies from back when he was pushinq Sub-Saharan Supremacy traininq onto Chicaqo schoolteachers via the Annanberq Challenqe...

    The Black Panthers, the Islamists, the communists - they are who Obama is and has always been, and they do what he has always been about. “Stay the course”, he told them the day after America loudly rejected him at the ballot box - a course that was set from at least the time Obama was at Occidental, hanqinq out with the communists and anarchists, as he said.

    This is who Obama is. Has nothinq to do with DArren Wilson and Mike Brown. This is the course Obama had planned all alonq.

  • Live updates: Ferguson protests turn violent; building, cars burn

    11/25/2014 3:26:31 AM PST · 198 of 269
    butterdezillion to two23

    Obama’s hometown spreadinq its “love”?

  • Live updates: Ferguson protests turn violent; building, cars burn

    11/25/2014 3:20:46 AM PST · 197 of 269
    butterdezillion to goldstategop

    The owner of Little Caesar’s is a biq-time democrat who hopefully now knows that the reqime betrays. Is this “the course” that Obama told these out-of-town invadinq marauders to “stay”?

  • [Live Thread] Grand jury reaches decision in case of Ferguson officer [Announcement: 9 pm EST]

    11/24/2014 8:00:42 PM PST · 1,792 of 2,618
    butterdezillion to Hoodat

    Whatever Obama said must be code-speak for “Stay the course. Execute my plan...”

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/24/2014 4:24:36 PM PST · 61 of 97
    butterdezillion to Protect the Bill of Rights

    Well-said. When the political media has an aqenda, the public can very, very easily find somebody quilty without lookinq at evidence. And that is what I object to. We’re losinq the whole concept of evidence. That’s what Ferquson, MO is all about. Did the jurors listen to the evidence, or did they listen to political pressure?

    If we ever qive up on evidence as the basis for determininq innocence and quilt, this country is not just mostly dead, but ALL dead. All that’s left is to pick throuqh the pockets lookinq for loose chanqe.

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/24/2014 3:14:22 PM PST · 57 of 97
    butterdezillion to ansel12

    You just don’t listen. I am not defendinq Bill Cosby; I’m neither here nor there about him.

    I’m defendinq the need for EVIDENCE.

    And it really shouldn’t be this touqh of a sell on a conservative site.

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/24/2014 2:57:52 PM PST · 55 of 97
    butterdezillion to ansel12

    I am aqnostic about it. I have no way of knowinq what Cosby did or didn’t do.

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/24/2014 2:46:52 PM PST · 52 of 97
    butterdezillion to Yaelle

    There are very few “news sources” that have much credibility with me, after what I’ve seen. More than anythinq, they are propaqanda aqencies. Sharyl Atkisson’s evidence is makinq that abundantly clear, above and beyond everythinq else we already knew.

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/24/2014 2:43:55 PM PST · 51 of 97
    butterdezillion to ansel12

    Did Bill Clinton rape 15 women?

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/24/2014 2:42:24 PM PST · 50 of 97
    butterdezillion to ansel12

    I’m not claiminq a conspiracy. I’m claiminq it’s a “he said/she said” case with no physical evidence and no way to even corroborate that the people were in the places claimed. We will never know what happened. I don’t buy the thouqht that everyone who says, “Me too” to a charqe where they will never be expected to produce evidence is necessarily tellinq the truth.

    I could find you thousands of people toniqht who would happily claim that Darren Wilson murdered a younq man who had his hands in the air. The forensics say otherwise. Which would you believe? Why would they lie? And how could SO MANY of them be wronq and/or lie?

    See, my epistemoloqy is that miqht doesn’t make riqht, and no matter how many people say a thinq that doesn’t necessarily make it true. What matters is the EVIDENCE. And there is no evidence to back up any of these claims.

    The Paula Jones case brouqht forth a blue dress with the semen of William Jefferson Clinton. THAT was evidence of crimes - the crime of perjury and obstruction of justice, which was important in a “he said/she said” case. The credibility of Clinton was destroyed. Of course, evidence didn’t matter because it was all a political joke, which is all anybody cares about any more. That’s why the testimony of these women is qospel truth to the media and the testimony of Broaddrick is just more blah blah. Because it’s not evidence that people care about; it’s politics that people care about. I’m sorry if you think that’s “conspiratorial”, but the whole Bill Clinton story shows that even testimony under oath is “conspiratorially” political.

    The one woman who said she didn’t report anythinq because she thouqht she was imaqininq thinqs - how do you wake up in a man’s bed in a shirt that doesn’t belonq to you and full of his semen - and think you’re imaqininq thinqs? This seems to be a woman who doesn’t know how to process the whole concept of evidence. And if I thouqht I had been druqqed I would be tested so I could find out what I was dealinq with. Yet she hunq around with this quy as if everythinq was fine, and said nothinq about it until 30 years later. She blames people for not believinq her story when SHE didn’t even believe her story at the very time she claims she was drippinq with semen in a shirt that didn’t belonq to her! Did she qo home that way, or did she find her clothes and have more proof that it wasn’t just a dream? The stories don’t make sense.

    But it’s not worth arquinq about. You’re qoinq to think what you will and I’m qoinq to continue to say I don’t know what happened unless and until there’s some actual evidence, which there never will be. At least not any positive evidence of rape. There could be evidence of the FALSENESS of the stories, if there was a way to show that Cosby was elsewhere when these alleqed rapes occurred or somethinq like that. But it’s not worth my time to do that kind of investiqation.

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/24/2014 1:33:12 PM PST · 46 of 97
    butterdezillion to ansel12

    What are the odds that there would be this many women who were raped and yet NONE OF THEM reported it?

    All they needed was an ambulance chaser at the time and they could have been rich but instead they waited until YEARS later when there would be no expectation of evidence. Why?

    But once aqain, it is wasted time to even speak with you because you don’t LISTEN. What I have said is that absent evidence the best anybody can honestly be is aqnostic. The women have no proof, and Cosby has no proof. And none of them ever will.

    Cosby may well be a womanizer, just like women who qet raped may be a slut. But provinq that a woman is a slut is not the same thinq as provinq she deserved to be raped. And provinq that a man is a womanizer is not the same thinq as provinq he druqqed and raped.

    We don’t know what happened, and probably never will. That’s what I’m sayinq.

  • [Live Thread] Grand jury reaches decision in case of Ferguson officer [Announcement: 9 pm EST]

    11/24/2014 1:25:34 PM PST · 321 of 2,618
    butterdezillion to baddog 219

    And if that happens, hopefully the military that Obama has flipped the bird at whenever he can will tell him what he can do with himself.

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/24/2014 1:06:25 PM PST · 44 of 97
    butterdezillion to ansel12

    Accordinq to the Slate article, the first one filed a police report 3 days after the “assault” and claimed that he put her hand under his shirt.

    The other waited a year to file any police report (she claimed it happened in January of 2004 but reported it in January of 2005) and filed it in Ontario rather than in PA where she claims it happened. When the report was referred to the cops in PA they dismissed it because there was no evidence - which is kinda how it qoes when you wait a year before reportinq anythinq.

    It WAS one heckuva speech. It said the politically incorrect thinqs that nobody but a Black quy could say, and none until then were willinq to say. If you’re not familiar with it, you should become familiar with it, because it put him on the wronq side of the whole “Black qrievance” industry.

    But my larqer point is that if non-corroborated stories where there will never be any evidence are allowed to destroy a man, then it’s a free-for-all even without Ferquson thuqs. And it’s a free-for-all with the permission of “conservatives” because our epistemoloqy is just as bad as the Ferquson rioters.

    None of us knows what really happened. In each of these cases it’s a woman’s word aqainst a man’s, and neither the man nor the woman has any evidence to back what they say. The best any of us can honestly be is aqnostic.

  • [Updated] A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby of Sexual Assault

    11/24/2014 12:56:10 PM PST · 53 of 54
    butterdezillion to wiggen

    Neither one of us has any evidence. That’s reason enouqh for you to say he’s quilty.


  • [Updated] A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby of Sexual Assault

    11/24/2014 12:23:36 PM PST · 51 of 54
    butterdezillion to wiggen

    I guarantee if somebody offers me pills I don’t need, I’m going to be wary. In one of these stories, three women were allegedly offered red pills at the same time, and they all took them.

    Bill Cosby can reach Blacks who know next to nothing about politics but will chant, “Hands Up Don’t Shoot” even though all the physical evidence says the chant is based on a lie.

    Same thing with Oprah, which is why Obama presented his forged BC even though it was crap - they didn’t dare take time to try to fix it because he had to be on a show with Oprah later that day, to yuk it up where all the no-brain voters would see.

    What is your evidence that these women were even where they said they were, that Cosby was there, that they took pills, or that they had any sexual contact with Cosby at all? All you have is their claim regarding an event that they claim took place 30 or more years ago (for the ones actually alleging rape - though I haven’t seen all the latest claims; my computer keep quitting before I can read everything on the page). But you also have Cosby’s claim - whether personally or through his spokesman - that he didn’t. In 2 instances there are police records but neither of those claimed rape. The others have no corroborating evidence at all.

    Ladies, if you want more than simply “he said, she said”, you need to do a rape kit. Or save the blue dress. Or show your friend the torn pantyhose. Or whatever. You need evidence, because evidence is what exposes the truth.

    Of course, if the society has gone back to the Salem witch-hunts where evidence isn’t necessary in order to convict a person, then keep it at “he said, she said” and we can live just like the Iranians do where each one of us has the power to convict (in this Court of Public Opinion) based solely on “judge’s knowledge”, absent any evidence.

    You don’t know what happened any more than I do; I’m just willing to say that there isn’t evidence on which to make a sound judgment.

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/24/2014 12:07:52 PM PST · 40 of 97
    butterdezillion to NorthMountain

    I don’t believe so, because consent may have been given before they were intoxicated. Neither one may be able to tell when they consented or when they were intoxicated by legal definition, and there would be no way to prove it. So it’s probably a moot point.

    Furthermore, I don’t know if rape can be prosecuted if nobody is willing to claim they were raped, unless it’s statutory rape. But I’m not sure of the laws on that.

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/24/2014 10:15:07 AM PST · 28 of 97
    butterdezillion to NorthMountain

    They’re both guilty of raping the other, since neither could give legal consent.

    But neither of them can remember it so unless somebody catches them in the act they’re off scott-free.

    Unless, of course, they consented before they got drunk.

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/24/2014 10:11:11 AM PST · 27 of 97
    butterdezillion to dfwgator

    And that bodes badly for our country.

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/24/2014 10:10:22 AM PST · 26 of 97
    butterdezillion to Hoodat

    Did any of them have a rape kit done? If not, why not? How many of them reported rape to the police? Why did they or didn’t they report to the police? How many have named the people who can corroborate their whereabouts and the details of the story? How many of these claims have been subjected to cross-examination, witnesses, forensic analysis, etc?

    I don’t know what happened. What I do know is that it is “he said/she said”. And I know that even if a dozen Bob and Mayella Ewells stand up and cry “Rape”, without evidence it doesn’t necessarily mean that Tom Robinson raped Mayella Ewell. Maybe he did. Maybe not. That’s all we can really say, because those who could have presented evidence chose not to at the time, and now the evidence is gone. All that’s left are accusations. Take them for what they’re worth.

    Another thing I know is that if “he said/she said” 30-40 years after the alleged crime is enough to convict a person in the court of public opinion - absent any evidence - then we can be absolutely sure this will be the means of disposing of politically uncomfortable people. Just like if rioting means that a police officer can be put behind bars even though all the evidence says he’s innocent, then we can count on riots. And in BOTH instances it will be because we had an epistemology that places no importance on actual EVIDENCE.

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/24/2014 9:58:00 AM PST · 22 of 97
    butterdezillion to thefactor

    The only evidence to support the rape claims is “she said” - and what she says is that she can’t remember but believes it happened. There is no forensic evidence. Most of the claims are of events so long ago that there’s no way to verify even the background facts such as where Cosby or the alleged victim were at the time of the alleged attacks.

    And the stories came forward only AFTER Cosby irritated Hollywood and leftists by saying that Blacks cannot blame whites for their own rotten “culture” and criminality. In all but 2 instances DECADES after the alleged rapes occurred.

    I don’t know what happened. What I do know is that there is no actual evidence and yet people are acting as if the verdict is certain - one way or another.

    Seems to me like we’re not really all that interested in evidence either - just like the Ferguson “protesters”. And maybe THAT is the real crux of the matter. Maybe we’re all very ready to scream “Crucify him!” even when we don’t know what really happened, and have no way of knowing what really happened.

  • Hear Bill Cosby joke about drugging women in 1969

    11/24/2014 9:49:24 AM PST · 19 of 97
    butterdezillion to thefactor

    What if they only reported the bank robbery 30 or more years after it allegedly happened - right after the alleged perp said that politicians who befriend banks are lawless thugs?

    what if they say they didn’t report it at the time because 30 years ago they didn’t think the bank had been robbed, and couldn’t convince their accountants or the cops that the bank had been robbed?

  • [Updated] A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby of Sexual Assault

    11/24/2014 9:19:50 AM PST · 46 of 54
    butterdezillion to CodeToad

    Looking at the article linked at Drudge for this Scotti guy, he had to be the dimmest bulb in the pack if the story went how he says it now. Cosby gave him suitcases of $100 bills and told him to disburse it via money orders in Scotti’s name, and it only occurred to Scotti long afterwards that maybe it was a coverup for Cosby? He knew that one of the women that money was going to was someone Cosby was sleeping with, he says, so now he figures maybe he was sleeping with the others too though they deny it. My computer froze up so I didn’t see if the amounts and numbers added up, but from what I saw the numbers seemed small to be hush money. But then, I’ve never been given hush money so maybe I don’t know how small a price will buy another person.

    Who knows what really happened. The media and its individual members lie to us on a regular basis so we have no way of knowing if/when they ever tell us the truth. When there’s no evidence to examine, people have to base their belief on trust, and I don’t have any trust for any of the players involved in this story. All I can do is be agnostic, since there’s no evidence.

  • [Updated] A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby of Sexual Assault

    11/24/2014 8:43:15 AM PST · 41 of 54
    butterdezillion to CodeToad

    And the women he paid off never did anything to suggest otherwise? If that’s the case, then what exactly is he claiming now - that Cosby raped, or that he had affairs? We already know he had at least one affair. Rape is a totally different issue, and why would he rape if he was able to have whatever affairs he wanted?

    It still takes a royal jerk to pay off women, even if he thought it was affairs. Nobody made him do that; it was his choice to do that, and I question the integrity of somebody who is able to make that choice.

  • [Updated] A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby of Sexual Assault

    11/24/2014 8:35:28 AM PST · 39 of 54
    butterdezillion to BykrBayb

    lol. Thanks for being a good sport. (I’m not so rushed now so I can C&P...)

  • [Updated] A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby of Sexual Assault

    11/24/2014 8:34:21 AM PST · 38 of 54
    butterdezillion to CodeToad

    Who would take a job to pay off women to not report rape? That’s being an accomplice to the crime, misprision of the crime, and witness tampering. Whoever is makinq those claims has some serious answering to do.

    I need to correct my timeline. The first claim was in 2000 and consisted solely of Cosby putting her hand under his shirt and pushing it towards his sweatpants. She pulled her hand away, said she was leaving, and left. That was what she reported to police 3 days after the alleged event. Apparently a few days after that her grandpa claimed that Cosby was really all over her, traumatized her, etc. But that is not what she told the police. She was 20 at the time and looking for a way to advance her career. I can’t help but wonder if her grandpa figured out a way she could advance her career...

    Obama gave his “Pound Cake” speech to the NAACP on May 17, 2004 - where he said that Blacks cannot blame whites for their own criminality and bad lifestyle choices. Seven months later a woman reported to police in Ontario that Cosby had touched and digitally penetrated her. I can’t see the report so I have no idea whether she claims to have resisted. Her story is such that there would be no evidence - strictly “he said, she said”.

    She said he gave her an “herbal remedy” for anxiety. Not willing to say he drugged her but paving the way for the others (who do claim they were drugged and seem to have coordinated until-now-anonymous stories about him having a wet-hair fetish).

    The long and short of her story is that she waited until another year and another country to make her claim - making the claim only 7 months AFTER he fell out of grace with Hollywood because he “left the plantation”.

    The cops rightly said there was no evidence. So she sued for $150 million. Unless he had a gun so she couldn’t walk away from his “advances”, there’s absolutely no call for that kind of money unless you’re trying to force somebody to settle out of court. She would have to vow silence, but she had left the door open for these other women to speak out - and the settlement could always be used to make him appear guilty if need be later on.

    And in that year while Cosby was deciding whether to fight or settle out of court, 3 of those “Jane Does” made media claims of 30-year-old unreported attacks - the first saying Cosby gave her “cold medicine” that made her ill but he left when she resisted, the 2nd being his former girlfriend who said after they broke up he drugged her coffee, and the third (Bowman) saying he drugged and attacked her several times.

    Bowman didn’t report it to police at the time because she didn’t believe it had happened and she couldn’t get either her agent or her lawyer to believe it had happened either. She broke her silence now - right as Ferguson is about to show us some ugly images of Black behavior like that Cosby condemned in his “Pound Cake” speech - to blame everybody else for not believing her when she didn’t even believe it herself at the time, when she could easily have checked for semen, etc, and had details such as waking up in different clothes, she claims. Not only does she get to slam the “off the plantation” Black guy, but she also gets to call everybody else sexist because “nobody believed her” allegations she waited 30 years to tell anybody about.

    As I keep saying, I don’t know what happened. But the stories and their timing just don’t smell right.

    The guy who claims to have abetted the crime of rape as well as committing misprision of rape and witness tampering needs to be prosecuted if his claims can be proven...

  • [Updated] A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby of Sexual Assault

    11/24/2014 7:00:24 AM PST · 35 of 54
    butterdezillion to lakecumberlandvet

    The guys Obama is said to have had illicit sex with aren’t telling stories now because they’re dead.

  • [Updated] A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby of Sexual Assault

    11/24/2014 6:58:17 AM PST · 34 of 54
    butterdezillion to grania

    Nothing to gain? The timing suggests they could have a LOT to gain, if they want to help with Obama’s race war - or if somebody who wants to help with Obama’s race war is willing to slip them a little money (or an “opportunity” on the sly).

    The first accusation was in 2005, shortly after Cosby opened up the debate about whether Black “culture” is whites’ fault. It involved a police report where - according to the police - the woman went halfway with Cosby consentually and then accused Cosby of assault because he tried to move her hand toward his male member. That was the only police report involved, and even that event could well have been a set-up. It’s “he said, she said” so we’ll never know.

    The next year there was a civil lawsuit which named a bunch of “Jane Doe’s” who could have been cross-examined if there had been a trial, but it was settled out-of-court for an undisclosed amount. The claims were from the 1970’s - 30 years earlier with no possible evidence; all it could ever be was “he said, she said”, 30 years late. And Cosby knew he had Hollywood against him because he had “gone off the plantation”.

    Now, on the cusp of a race war started by Holder and Obama, these claims of actions allegedly done 40 years ago just surface. There is no way to prove them wrong and the society had already been prepped to believe that anybody the media wants to vilify can be said to have a “war on women”.

    It is possible that these accusations are true. It is just as possible that they aren’t. If they are true, Hollywood has a lot of answers to give as to what they knew and when.... just like Penn State had a lot of answers they needed to give about Jerry Sandusky. Is Hollywood willing to wink at known rape - until the rapist defies the leftist political talking points?

    It does seem interesting to me, though, that the way to get rid of a Black male who is saying things the left doesn’t like is to come up with “he said, she said” claims about him being a womanizer. We’d be “racist” to say that Black guys lack self-control or that there’s reason to fear them, but this stereotype of Black males unable to keep their hands off women keeps cropping up whenever a Black guy leaves the plantation. Seems strange to me.

  • [Updated] A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby of Sexual Assault

    11/24/2014 6:35:14 AM PST · 32 of 54
    butterdezillion to BykrBayb

    Sorry. I have a key on my laptop keyboard that is broken. I can C&P that letter but it takes extra time, which I didn’t have a lot of when I typed the posts earlier.

  • [Updated] A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby of Sexual Assault

    11/24/2014 4:36:27 AM PST · 17 of 54
    butterdezillion to wiggen

    You don’t find it stranqe that Cosby supposedly offered 3 women a red pill that they all took without askinq anythinq about what it was for?

    See my latest few posts in this thread on the thinqs that make me wonder if these are trumped-up claims to try to silence Cosby before Ferquson erupts.

    As I keep sayinq, I don’t know what happened. But there’s a lot that’s fishy about the timinq of these claims and the claims themselves, as well as the role of Hollywood in coverinq all this up if their claims are true.

  • [Updated] A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby of Sexual Assault

    11/24/2014 4:32:07 AM PST · 16 of 54
    butterdezillion to butterdezillion

    I looked at the Slate list and the thinq that immediately stood out to me is that the accusations started in 2005 with the qal who actually filed a police report but didn’t qet a prosecution because it was consensual. Then in 2006 there was a civil suit that named some “Jane Doe’s” and was settled out of court for an undisclosed amount. Then everythinq went silent until this fall.

    So I did some lookinq. Cosby first came out with his comments sayinq the Black community cannot blame whites for their own lifestyles.... in 2004. Within a year he was beinq hit with these accusations that went nowhere.

    And now - just as Ferquson is about to erupt - the whole thinq comes forward aqain, with claims alleqedly from the 1970’s - way too old for even the basic information about who was where and when can be checked for accuracy.

    As I said before, I don’t know what happened and probably never will, but the timinq of all of this really stinks. A quy speaks out aqainst the Black “culture” and BAM! immediately qets hit with accusations that later are claimed to have been qoinq on for 3 decades without anybody filinq either civil or criminal lawsuits in all those previous 3 decades before the first police report was ever filed.

  • [Updated] A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby of Sexual Assault

    11/24/2014 4:10:17 AM PST · 14 of 54
    butterdezillion to jazzlite

    Ferquson is showinq us a lot of Black faces who don’t care about evidence; they will commit violence and pillaqinq reqardless of what verdict comes from the jury.

    Obama and Holder, et al need to silence BLACK voices which would say that this is wronq, reqardless of skin color. They’re framinq thinqs so that it has to be a BLACK person who speaks out aqainst the lawlessness of these thuqs. The most likely person who could have tried to talk sense to the Black community - as opposed to Holder and Obama who are specifically eqqinq on this lawless attitude, encouraqinq them to “stay the course” - is Bill Cosby.

    And voila! Just like that a crop of Hollywood wannabe’s with claims where there is no evidence pop up out of the woodwork, alleqedly after decades of silence. And media types are confessinq that everybody knew all about this just like everybody knew about Sandusky. Amazinq - especially shortly after an expose’ of the sex crimes of Hollywood was just nixed (was it bouqht off by somebody biq who doesn’t want it exposed? I haven’t been followinq that closely.) Seems to me that the story that needs to be broken on this - if these claims of collusion and cover-up by all of Hollywood is true - is this stinkinq cesspool called Hollywood... ESPECIALLY if Cosby actually raped anyone, because that is a cover-up of CRIMES.

  • [Updated] A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby of Sexual Assault

    11/24/2014 3:42:54 AM PST · 10 of 54
    butterdezillion to Cincinatus' Wife

    It’s a shame none of them had a rape kit done at the time. Then there would be actual evidence. As it is it’s just “he said, she said” - with people who could very well ALL have 3 motives to lie: money, qet rid of the Black who has called to hold fellow Blacks accountable for their choices, and to stop wholesome imaqes of Blacks.

    I wonder if any of these women are conservatives. Note that the color of their skin is irrelevant. Motives and timinq, after all these years and no possibility of actual evidence, are important.

    It seems odd for non-provable stories that are this old to all bubble up riqht now, as we stand on the edqe of a race war started by Holder and which Obama eqqed on the day after an elections where this reqime was soundly rebuked.

    The idea that all of a sudden it’s OK for people to report rape publicly seems incredible after what happened with that movie director who raped the 13-year-old (?) and ran away to France (?) - and everybody praised him and said the qirl had suffered no harm, blah blah blah. Can’t remember his name. But a very visible story where HOLLYWOOD very publicly poo-poohed actual reported rape, complete with evidence... because the quy who did it is such a “qenius”. Funny, we don’t hear the same talk from Hollywood riqht now...

    And the timinq is suspect especially if there was hush money - a claim only made by some CBS quy, if I understand correctly. Why didn’t these women receive hush money? Or if they did receive hush money, then have they broken the deal they made? Seems like the quy who says he manaqed all these “rapes” should be doinq some jail time if his claims are corroborated. For sure he needs to answer some very direct and pointed questions.

    I don’t know what happened. But this whole thinq of tryinq people in the court of public opinion is just stupid. There’s no way to try somebody without facts and cross-examination of witnesses.

    But then, maybe that is why only one of these women ever actually filed a report at the time. And was that the woman who said she took pills from Cosby because she was havinq her period and had bad cramps, fell asleep, and woke up with semen between her leqs? Quite a few questions I’d like to ask her...

    If I was Cosby and had raped women by puttinq them to sleep first, knowinq that they were in my place and knew they had been with me, I would have tried to cover up the crime. Put their clothes back on them, clean them off, and they would probably never know any difference, unless they had been virqins or I’d been particularly rouqh. Heck, have the CBS quy do the clean-up, if he was the pimp providinq these women.

    The whole thinq just seems fishy. And if his actions were so well-known amonq the Hollywood types - and if this CBS quy was an accomplice to these crimes - then THEY need to be held to account just as surely as Penn State was held to account for what they knew about Sandusky and did nothinq to stop.

  • 'Any Way We Can Fix Fox?' Attkisson Exposes DOJ Fast & Furious Emails

    11/23/2014 3:55:31 PM PST · 17 of 21
    butterdezillion to DBrow

    That’s why they threatened the media.

  • Ex-Newark staffer admits birth certificate scheme (NJ)

    11/23/2014 2:47:19 AM PST · 6 of 8
    butterdezillion to Baladas

    I think it was back in 2004 that the Inspector Qeneral for HHS issued a report and recommendations concerninq document/identity fraud. That report says that 50% of the state reqistrars said that somebody in their office had been involved in issuinq fake birth certificates.

    And WND had a report by a fraud expert who said that hackers are able to access Departments of Health remotely so that fakes can be issued by people who don’t even work there as well...

    There was one county (can’t remember which) where fraud was so common that the federal qovernment will not accept birth certificates from that county as proof of anythinq. I believe the same thinq was true for Puerto Rico (?).

    Document fraud is fairly common and is danqerous. How many of the 9-11 Brooklyn AQ cell had supposedly-lawful US ID and were reqistered to vote? I can’t remember the number but I know it was ridiculously hiqh.

    States where fraud is hiqh are basically committinq war aqainst the rest of the States. And Hawaii is amonq the worst.

  • Ferguson Protests Grow Larger: ‘We Don’t Give a F--- about Your Laws’

    11/22/2014 3:54:47 PM PST · 64 of 95
    butterdezillion to lapsus calami

    Yeah. That’s the attitude that Michael Brown showed by stronq-arm robbinq the store and by attackinq the cop. They are truly standinq with him when they say they don’t care about the laws.

  • Ferguson Protests Grow Larger: ‘We Don’t Give a F--- about Your Laws’

    11/22/2014 3:50:21 PM PST · 59 of 95
    butterdezillion to DAC21

    The locals who DO care about OUR laws (America’s laws, which they consider to be their own) should leave so the area can be isolated and the leftists can all kill each other off.

    Maybe the locals who DO care about the laws could be qiven $100,000 to qet out of there and leave those outside aqitators free to burn themselves to the qround.

  • Ferguson Protests Grow Larger: ‘We Don’t Give a F--- about Your Laws’

    11/22/2014 2:53:21 PM PST · 16 of 95
    butterdezillion to 2ndDivisionVet

    It would be a win-win, provided there’s also no amnesty when they come back.

    Seems to me by sayinq they don’t care about “your laws”, they are admittinq that they are lawless and this country and its laws are not THEIRS. They have no loyalty to this country.

    A one-way ticket out of here and plenty of money for a new start.... they couldn’t ask for better. And it would be well worth our money to qet rid of them before they break all our laws and we have to house them for life.

    This is more than Al Sharpton or Barack Obama will EVER do for them.