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  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/26/2016 6:41:59 AM PDT · 488 of 489
    butterdezillion to WildHighlander57; 4Zoltan

    Black hair drawn to the middle in the back. That does not show when we see the whole bottom line of the hat.

    4zoltan, using the most blurry image and ignoring the clearer ones does not make you look honest at all.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 9:45:31 PM PDT · 485 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    We can’t see how far down it goes because the seat is in the way.

    But we CAN see that his black hair sticks out the bottom of his hat.

    On image #5 we see the whole bottom of the hat and there is no black hair sticking out the bottom. And the reddish hair that DOES stick out there goes down no more than maybe an inch. That is NOT Jake’s hair. He had black hair sticking out from his hat, drawn from the sides into a ponytail in the middle at the back of his neck. No sign of ANY of that in image #5.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 8:58:32 PM PDT · 483 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan
    You chose the most blurry image there is for that "hat". Look at #5 There is a clear line where the bottom of the "hat" is. There is no black hair underneath that line. Not at the sides, not in the middle. Not at all like #4 where there's black hair showing. To have a ponytail you draw the hair from both sides and it hangs in the middle. There is some fuzzing out there but not enough to fuzz out the lower edge of the hat and there is no black hair seen ANYWHERE along the bottom of the hat - not to draw hair from by the left ear, from by the right ear, or to join them in a ponytail holder in the middle. There's just nothing.
  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 6:29:07 PM PDT · 473 of 489
    butterdezillion to Fred Nerks

    You have no idea the qualifications of the person you’re talking to, or of the people who have looked at his information.

    What you’ve mentioned does not explain the phenomena on video.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 6:29:07 PM PDT · 472 of 489
    butterdezillion to smokingfrog

    Briley is good at telling fictional stories, I guess.

    Treaded water for 2 hours and thought they had reached the end, before the USCG was sighted?

    When the USCG took off the infant lifejacket from “Fuddy”, did Briley happen to notice the bright pink shirt she had on - rather than the white sleeveless shirt his wife had on? How could you mistake the one for the other?

    And Yamamoto must have been mistaken when he said HE saw Fuddy stop breathing when she was still with him - and then she drifted out to sea. So she must have still been warm (according to Briley’s story) after quite some time without breathing.

    The bad thing is that cardiac arrhythmia would kill you suddenly. It doesn’t fit either Yamamoto’s or Briley’s stories. Or the USCG’s either, for that matter - with the earlier rescuer concluding she was already dead and the later rescuer condluding she was in critical condition. And the coroner based her COD almost entirely on what these goons had to say - even though they contradicted each other AND the way cardiac arrhythmia works.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 5:35:06 PM PDT · 469 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    Maybe the “unnamed official” was Obama’s good friend Gov. Neil Abercrombie, who told Mike Evans he had a team investigating and they could not find a BC for Obama anywhere in HI. Evans had called him to ask about his comments to a Hawaii columnist, saying they had actually found something written down in the archives when searching for Obama’s BC...

    The comments to Evans were right before (like a couple days?) his administration forced HDOH Director Neal Palafox to resign so Fuddy could replace him - and then were caught lying about it when Palafox said he didn’t know why he was resigning. Eventually they admitted that they had asked him to resign but wouldn’t say why or why they initially lied about it. The new AG, David Louie, had his office leak stories to the media about Palafox possibly being investigated for Medicare fraud... even though Palafox had not been informed of any such thing as would be required. Kind of your typical, “You’ve got a nice medical practice here. It’d be a shame if anything happened to it...”

    That same AG may well have figured that Hawaii statute regarding witness protection gave him the authority to do ANYTHING to “protect” somebody who could possibly at some time in the future be a witness for the state. Including faking an autopsy, telling OIP attorneys to lie in order to delay UIPA request responses until it’s too late, etc.

    He went to school at Occidental...

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 5:35:06 PM PDT · 468 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    When it’s wet it goes down to the middle of his back because it’s not curly then.

    And it’s also black when it’s wet.

    And the bottom of that blue cap still all shows and there’s still no hair hanging out underneath it. There is just red curly stuff at the nape.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 5:35:05 PM PDT · 467 of 489
    butterdezillion to trisham

    Thank you. I really don’t mean to be an arse.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 4:33:24 PM PDT · 461 of 489
    butterdezillion to trisham

    I apologize. I didn’t notice that you were responding to the first post.

    Must have been somebody else who added “zot” to the keywords.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 4:33:24 PM PDT · 460 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    The video was an attempt to discredit those who questioned the narrative. Donald Trump was one name/quote that they listed in the Nightline clip...

    We’ll find out more about ABC as this thing goes along, but for now there’s the answer that is easy to see just by watching the Nightline clip.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 3:55:00 PM PDT · 456 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    You’re saying that in the ocean it is normal to “float” upright, with lifejackets not even touching the water?

    Just for the record and to make sure I’m understanding what you’re saying, you’re saying that is normal? A person can go out into the deep water of the ocean and just stand there upright in the water without touching anything on the ground?

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 3:55:00 PM PDT · 455 of 489
    butterdezillion to trisham; rodguy911

    If you think a conversation is “ridiculous” then why waste your time on it?

    Was it you who added “zot” to the keywords? Is that the plan so that these questions don’t have to be addressed? Zot the poster(s) and the issue goes away?

    In case you missed it, rx has said several times that the evidence is in the hands of people who will carry this forward even if unpopular voices get zotted from Free Republic. This is much bigger than anybody here (except rodguy911) is willing to even consider. If the factual evidence is not welcome on Free Republic, amongst Free Republic’s “conservatives”, it says something.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 3:30:54 PM PDT · 452 of 489
    butterdezillion to smokingfrog

    I don’t know how to delete cookies. But if the headline says that Bruce Briley says in his book that Fuddy died in his arms, then the article isn’t even accurate, because Briley doesn’t say that in his book.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 3:30:44 PM PDT · 451 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    What two things are sticking out of the water in the 3 top plane images at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3428362/posts?page=425#425 ?

    And it’s mighty funny turbulence/ripples, to be gray and have a definite shape like what appears in that 2nd image.

    And I notice nobody is tackling what that object is in front of the door...

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 3:30:44 PM PDT · 450 of 489
    butterdezillion to trisham

    Nobody is forcing you to read.

    Or are they?

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 3:30:44 PM PDT · 449 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    If they weren’t standing on an outcropping of the ocean floor, then how were they able to be upright in the water when their lifejacket wasn’t touching the water? Again, multiple people at multiple times.

    Also bear in mind that this video has had the exif data removed so any editing could have been done and we would only know by how disjointed the transition from one frame to another is - which is easy to justify since Puentes was bobbling the camera above and under the water, videotaping feet and bubbles, etc the whole time. What we’re seeing is what Puentes and ABC and the NTSB wanted us to see.

    We’ll find out just how trustworthy they all are...

    But I eagerly await your answer to explain Yamamoto and Rosa, for example, being upright in the water when their lifejackets are not even touching the water.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 2:32:17 PM PDT · 444 of 489
    butterdezillion to butterdezillion

    Should have said the USCG said they CUT - not tore - the lifejacket off of “Fuddy”.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 2:25:04 PM PDT · 443 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    What’s making that shadow on the wing there?

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 2:24:54 PM PDT · 442 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    Then how can they be upright in the water with lifejacket not even touching the water? Multiple people at multiple times.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 2:22:04 PM PDT · 441 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    Amazing that the water breaks to that large a degree because of two little antennas but there’s not water breaking similarly anywhere else in the image.

    And there is something grayish sticking up above the engine in the one image that rx posted, and a large object in front of the door in another image. Surely you don’t think those are just the waves too?

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 2:04:04 PM PDT · 437 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    Not if I can just float, which was the case for all of these people - even Bruce Briley who didn’t have a lifejacket and is seen floating on his back.

    And these people are seen STANDING in the water in multiple places, so having to tread water doesn’t even apply to this situation. Rosa sometimes has her lifejacket inflated and sometimes not. Obviously she didn’t consider it very necessary - probably because she can stand in the water, as she is seen doing in multiple places in the video. Like Keith Yamamoto is seen doing right next to Fuddy. His lifejacket isn’t touching the water at all.

    For that matter, it looks doubtful that HER lifejacket is even touching the water at that point, as she is laying horizontally with shoulders/lifejacket and knees above the water. That doesn’t work for normal floating. What is holding her above the water at that point - the same point when Keith Yamamoto is standing in the water with lifejacket not touching the water?

    What would explain that?

    And why would Loretta Fuddy be frightened enough to have an arrhythmia in water she could have stood in?

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 2:04:03 PM PDT · 436 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    We can see the whole bottom edge of the blue cap that you guys are claiming is Jake. There is no black hair sticking out anywhere. Only red curly hair at the nape.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 2:03:51 PM PDT · 435 of 489
    butterdezillion to rx

    Maybe the Dolly that was lifted with the USCG in the half-inflated infant lifejacket was made so it appeared to have rigor mortis. But then when the USCG got it in the helo they saw the tag that said, “critical condition” so they did CPR.

    Maybe that’s why it was also claimed on the very poorly-filled-out USCG helo communication log that Puentes, as he was being transported to Honolulu, may have been “slightly hypothermic” after deliberately staying in 79-degree water for about an hour before making a 6-minute-max swim/walk onto shore. Maybe that’s why they bundled him up like a mummy. Maybe there was a sticker on him that said “HYPOTHERMIA”. An hour in water the temperature of a “very warm” swimming pool - according to a site I linked earlier which said that even a very sensitive person could be comfortable in 79-degree water for a long time...

    Seems like it was somebody here on FR who first suggested that maybe Fuddy was hypothermic - so cold in that water that it caused a heart attack or something...

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 2:03:51 PM PDT · 434 of 489
    butterdezillion to rx; Fred Nerks; smokingfrog; WildHighlander57; 4Zoltan

    So Bruce Briley is the one who didn’t have a lifejacket, which explains why there are only 7 lifejackets in the NTSB line-up.

    Marilyn had 2 lifejackets; the one with the phallus/transmitter which she hid between her legs underwater is not in the NTSB’s line-up either. But the other one is there.

    Which means that one of those there is the one the USCG says they retrieved “Fuddy” with and tore off her. Only one is torn. Not much chance to mistake which one the USCG claimed to have taken off of Fuddy... It’s the one that the NTSB marked with “FUDDY” and analyzed the CO2 cartridges from. It had one CO2 cartridge intact - in spite of the many images you’ve posted, rx, showing that both her lifejacket’s chambers were inflated. What the USCG claims to have retrieved with Fuddy is not what Fuddy is videotaped wearing. Who DID they retrieve, then, and claim it was Fuddy?

    So Bruce is saying Fuddy died in his arms. How does that work when she was put next to him in the helo and was supposedly being given CPR? And why would he tell an interviewer that he couldn’t be sure it was her because he was out of his mind at that point - yet go on to put in his book that he held her as she died?

    I can’t see the article because I’m not a subscriber to “Maui Now”. Apparently the rest of this crew here must be subscribers. I wonder if they’re from Maui. Where you guys all from?

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 1:05:09 PM PDT · 429 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    WE’re supposed to believe that his hair was that curly and went down his back that far and yet when he was in the seat there was no hair sticking out under his clue cap - not even the straight black hair that we SEE sticking out under his cap when we’re sure it’s him?

    I hope my previous post didn’t get stuck in moderation: Where is his right arm in that image?

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 1:05:09 PM PDT · 428 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    Why edit out the cabin portion of a video that you give to the NTSB as if it was intact?

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 1:05:09 PM PDT · 427 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    Where’s his right arm in that image?

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/25/2016 8:26:19 AM PDT · 405 of 489
    butterdezillion to Fred Nerks

    You said there was one lifejacket missing and it’s obviously Fuddy’s. I’m saying it seems pretty clear that none of those lifejackets is what Marilyn was using so it must be Marilyn’s that is missing from the NTSB’s line-up.

    It’s not rocket science.

    I have enough frustration dealing with my husband whose Mayo Clinic diagnosis of Posterior Cortical Atrophy gives him a reason to be confused. He is never willfully confused though, and it is a joy to be with him for that reason. I am going to spend my one day off this week with him.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/24/2016 11:03:51 PM PDT · 387 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    Anything could have happened while Puentes videotaped everybody’s feet, right before this. And remember how the first stories said that they tried to get the door open and couldn’t and then Jake figured out how to get it open? Isn’t it strange how none of that shows up in the video? We have no idea what has been edited out of this video. It’s been a long time since I looked at some of these details (and I’ve been dealing with a lot of stress in my life since then, for some reason...) but I vaguely remember the ABC announcer talking about how far into the video it was when the passengers were out, but the time that had actually transpired on the video was less than the timestamp he mentioned, which suggests that some of the footage was edited out of what we were allowed to see - easy to do when the exif data is removed, as was the case for these video frames, if I understand correctly. There was a point at which Puentes made the video go black, which allowed him to resume at whatever point he wanted to, and the discrepancy suggests he took out a chunk of time.

    But it’s late and it was all too long ago. And I’m not going to go on a wild goosechase to find the old information. Nobody is any more willing to consider it now than they were back then. And some who pretended to consider things back then seem to be a little less fearful of their mask slipping now.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/24/2016 11:03:51 PM PDT · 386 of 489
    butterdezillion to WildHighlander57

    There is no way that wad of hair was tucked up inside that blue shower-cap-type thing. And what would be the reason for him to tuck it in anyway? All of these photos show that there should have been more hair sticking out from under his hat, if that blue hat on the window side of the neckrest was really his. There was a lot more hair sticking out from the blue cap on the aisle side of the neckrest...

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/24/2016 11:03:51 PM PDT · 385 of 489
    butterdezillion to Fred Nerks
    You don't even realize what you sound like, do you? As long as we assume that everything the USCG and NTSB said is wrong, we can assume that the story they tell is true... (shaking head) Marilyn Briley's "lifejacket" is missing from that collection. It had a phallus shape attached to it (transmitter of some kind?) and looked like this: which is obviously not a half-inflated infant lifejacket that was mistakenly labeled as being Fuddy's. So they are all accounted for. Five adult lifejackets (Yamamoto Puentes, Bruce Briley, Rosa, and Jake) two infant lifejackets (Hollstein and supposedly Fuddy), Kawasaki had no lifejacket, and Marilyn's lifejacket is not normal and is missing from the line-up. That's nine. All PIW's lifejackets accounted for.
  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/24/2016 8:23:50 PM PDT · 377 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    You ever hold a kid in your lap?

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/24/2016 8:08:06 PM PDT · 373 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    He’d have to scoot over to be seated straight up with his head on the window side of the neckrest. If he simply leaned over, as you suggested, his head would have been at an angle, not sitting straight up.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/24/2016 7:57:25 PM PDT · 371 of 489
    butterdezillion to Fred Nerks; rx

    That doesn’t fit the story at all. Are you saying those people all lied?

    Where she allegedly died is irrelevant to the problem at hand, though. The USCG says they cut away a lifejacket from her, and the NTSB says that the cut lifejacket the USCG provided to them had a CO2 cartridge that was still intact. As you see in that photo - which is what rx asked everybody to look closely at - both chambers of Fuddy’s lifejacket are inflated. IOW, both CO2 cartridges were punctured. How, then, could one of them still be intact when the USCG recovered her body? You can’t un-pop a balloon, and you can’t un-puncture a CO2 cartridge.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/24/2016 6:55:41 PM PDT · 368 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan; Fred Nerks

    If Jake was scooting his butt over in the seat (which would be necessary for him to be sitting straight up when “his” blue hat shows on the window side of the neckrest) then why don’t we see his head above the neckrest as he scoots over?

    What you’ve posted shows that he did NOT scoot over, as is necessary for the scenario you guys are relying on.

    The absence of a mannequin at any point means nothing, since a mannequin could easily have been leaned forward in the seat so it wouldn’t show over the back of the seat - and brought upright at any point, especially if being prepared to carry it out.

    But if there is a photo showing Jake on one side of the neckrest at the same time as the blue cap is on the other side, that destroys your hypothetical scenario. What say you to the image that rx posted which claims to do just that?

    And on all these photos what you guys are overlooking is that black head of hair that shows under Jake’s hat every time. Except when it’s a different-shaped blue hat on the other side of the seat after Jake did NOT scoot over... in which case it is reddish hair at the nape.

    And the best anybody can do is say that the NTSB mis-labeled the lifejacket as being Fuddy’s? Keep in mind that the USCG said they cut that lifejacket away from Fuddy, and that is the only lifejacket that is cut.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/24/2016 6:21:14 PM PDT · 366 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    We don’t see all the way to the other end of the neckrest and the other blue cap (the taller blue cap, with reddish hair at the nape and no ponytail or straight black hair to be seen anywhere) was on the other side of the neckrest. So that image tells us nothing.

    All it takes is one photo showing both Jake and this other blue cap at the same time, and rx posted that.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/24/2016 5:56:53 AM PDT · 342 of 489
    butterdezillion to WildHighlander57

    I don’t see any reaching and grabbing. The images you say show reaching and grabbing are partial images and the blurriest of the lot. The images that are clear show a hand with fingers in constant position relative to each other, with the pointer finger slightly more forward than the others. Early in the sequence you can see more of the other fingers than later, so the hand swung slightly while maintaining the same positioning of the fingers.

    Whose hand was it? Rosa’s? Jake’s? Puentes’? Whose hand?

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/24/2016 5:56:53 AM PDT · 341 of 489
    butterdezillion to WildHighlander57

    What you posted does not make the question go away: What happened to Jake’s ponytail and the large amount of straight, black hair sticking out under his hat in the images we have of him shortly before the camera moved?

    Rx brought up another question that nobody seems to be addressing: how likely is it that Jake moved his butt over on the seat in the fraction of a second that it took for the camera to similarly move? That’s what would have to happen, for the blue-capped person to be sitting straight up in the seat on both the right and left sides of the neckrest, before and after the camera quickly shifted.

    But I’ve noticed something on this thread. Nobody is really addressing the actual evidence. Nobody has explained whose dangling right hand could be that high and at that angle. Can’t be Rosa, Jake, or Puentes. Too fat to be Hollstein’s and he wasn’t there anyway, in that narrow aisle that already had 3 sets of feet showing in the image. Whose hand is it, and how would they even have room to be there, unless they were above the 3 people whose feet show on the floor?

    Nobody has explained who the USCG actually pulled out of the water with one CO2 cartridge still intact. Can’t be Fuddy; both her lifejacket chambers were inflated so both her CO2 cartridges were punctured. There’s no way to make a punctured cartridge go back to being intact. So it couldn’t be Fuddy. Who was it then, and why did the USCG claim that it was Fuddy if it wasn’t a Dolly made to look like her, complete with curly reddish hair at the nape and pudgy hands as we see in the cabin images that you and your buddies are trying to call Jake?

    The voices here are not addressing the substance of the evidence presented. You posted a lot of bandwidth that doesn’t change or even address the substance of the argument. We don’t need more bandwidth that distracts from the central questions.

    I’ve asked these questions many times. How long will it be before somebody actually answers them?

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/23/2016 8:39:00 PM PDT · 324 of 489
    butterdezillion to Fred Nerks

    Maybe the dummy didn’t “sleep with the fishes” but was actually in the infant lifejacket with an intact CO2 cartridge that the USCG claims was the Fuddy they picked out of the water. The video shows us Fuddy’s lifejacket’s CO2 cartridges were both punctured so it can’t have been her. So what was it? Why does the USCG’s description of the Fuddy they pulled out of the water not match what we see in the video of Fuddy in the water?

    What DID match the description of what the USCG retrieved from the water? It had to be something that looked like Fuddy. What was it?

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/23/2016 7:06:02 PM PDT · 320 of 489
    butterdezillion to Fred Nerks
    Look at all the hair around Jake's ear. It goes down to a ponytail: Then look at the differently-shaped, tight-fitting hat (showing no bulge for a ponytail) with no black hair but reddish hair at the nape (not at the ends of the hair, but where the hair attaches to the scalp) It's not the same hat and not the same hair. And why would Jake, in the middle of a catastrophe where they claimed they expected to die, decide to tuck his ponytail under his hat? What would be the purpose of that? And where's your evidence to suggest that he did? Show me the video footage where his arms reach up to tuck his hair in.
  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/23/2016 4:28:34 PM PDT · 314 of 489
    butterdezillion to WildHighlander57

    I’ll ask it again. Maybe one of these days you’ll actually answer the question: What happened to Jake’s ponytail? Why is there not straight black hair sticking down below the bottom of his cap any more, like there was when we saw him on the aisle side of the neckrest?

    Unless there’s a shot of the whole seat we would not expect to see 2 heads.

    And of course, everybody has just ignored the hand hanging down that could not be Jake, Puentes, or Rosa...

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/23/2016 6:57:57 AM PDT · 296 of 489
    butterdezillion to WildHighlander57

    Did Jake grow a ponytail in five minutes? Did he instantly shift his butt over to the other side of the seat? Did his hat suddenly become longer so it covered more of his hair?

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/22/2016 7:46:07 PM PDT · 286 of 489
    butterdezillion to Fred Nerks; rx

    Rosa Key was standing in the water, just like Yamamoto was. She was so “scared” that she alternated between having her lifejacket inflated (for show) and uninflated (for comfort).

    Flip Hollstein’s hour and a half (when he started having doubts, according to the article you posted) turns out to be six minutes at most according to Puentes’ video, as shown by rx .

    What an absolute load of crock these people are all serving up in lockstep.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/22/2016 4:50:13 PM PDT · 282 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    How did Jake grow a ponytail between the time of that image and the time he sat on the wing?

    When Jake’s head was shown on the aisle side of the neckrest he had a lot of dark, straight hair sticking out underneath his cap. Where did it all go in such a short time?

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/21/2016 5:39:22 PM PDT · 253 of 489
    butterdezillion to rx
    On the image at https://s6.postimg.org/4q2fvqr81/Pv0743ochestthings.jpg it looks like she's sitting on something. To lie back on her lifejacket she'd have to be floating but to float you need your legs down and back arched. She's closer to being in fetal position, with her legs bent above the water. In that image her lifejacket may not even be touching the water; hard to tell. I'm not an expert but I'm imagining myself trying to do this in a lifejacket and I just can't see it. It almost looks like Yamamoto (or somebody else) is lifting her out of the water. How soon does it switch to a different camera and show the tall guy there instead of her?
  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/21/2016 5:39:22 PM PDT · 252 of 489
    butterdezillion to rx

    On that second image down, Yamamoto is clearly standing with his lifejacket far above water level, even as his body is close enough to touch hers. We’re supposed to believe he allowed her to die from fright floating on her back in her fully-inflated lifejacket when at any time he could have simply said, “Loretta, stand up like I am!”

  • Obama Administration Plotting to Usurp Control Over Elections

    08/21/2016 12:31:27 PM PDT · 130 of 139
    butterdezillion to Liz

    Looks like Richard Cloward and his wife, Francis Fox Piven. The ones who wrote the plan to destroy the US through these means.

    After that, though, they had to get the reuirements to apply in each STATE - to bridge the gap between this federal law regarding voter registration and the Constitutional requirement that Senate and Presidential elections be administered only by the STATES. And the person who brought that case to force the federal law onto the individual states’ requirements for the elections they administer was..... Barack Obama. The signed member of Piven’s group, The New Party.

    They’re a whole gaggle of communists, bent on deliberately collapsing the USA as she has always been known, and turning our lands and resources over to the communist nations of the world.

    And now that they’ve got the Islamists on their team too... this nation is no longer recognizeable.

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/21/2016 12:42:02 AM PDT · 244 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    They didn’t switch any life vests. According to the stories there wouldn’t even have been a chance for anybody to switch life vests. They had a mannequin in a partially-inflated infant life jacket that was retrieved by the USCG as if it was Fuddy.

    That mannequin is filmed in the cabin in the same seat with Jake and had a blue cap like his, except that it was the wrong shape and there wasn’t Jake’s hair (including ponytail) sticking out of the bottom of the mannequin’s hat - but was reddish hair held inside the hat (red hair that later shows up right next to Jake as he first got into the water). That mannequin was sitting straight-up on the outside-most side of the seat while Jake sat straight up on the interior-most side of the seat. That mannequin’s lifelike pudgy hand is seen in the cabin footage dangling down from a high position at an angle where it could not have belonged to any of the 3 people within that tiny space (Jake, Rosa, and Puentes). At that point Jake is making a beeline for the exit, apparently carrying the mannequin (with dangling hand) over the top of Puentes’ camera which at that point was studiously recording everybody’s feet.

    What happened to the real Fuddy, in the fully-inflated adult life jacket she was recorded wearing next to Yamamoto? She obviously wasn’t retrieved by the USCG and thus examined by coroner Lindsey Harle. Where did she go? I have some suspicions, but it seems like the NTSB or FBI should be answering that question, no? The NTSB had the video; they saw that Fuddy’s jacket was fully inflated so had to have 2 punctured CO2 cartridges. They saw that what was retrieved from the ocean (claimed as being Fuddy) still had a CO2 cartridge intact. They therefore knew that what was retrieved was not Fuddy. Why did they fail to find out what really happened? Why did they go along with the big lie?

  • Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

    08/20/2016 11:05:16 PM PDT · 242 of 489
    butterdezillion to 4Zoltan

    If Fuddy’s lifejacket had both chambers inflated (both cartridges punctured to inflate the jacket) there was no way to get the cartridge unpunctured when the USCG retrieved her. What the USCG retrieved CANNOT be the same lifejacket as Fuddy was wearing if the cartridges were both punctured when Fuddy wore the lifejacket.

    At http://www.safeboatingcampaign.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/2016-Inflatables.pdf it explains, “Inflatable life jackets are reusable, but, after each use, the CO2 cylinder needs to be replaced.” That’s because to get the jacket inflated, the CO2 cylinder has to be punctured, letting out the CO2 into the jacket chamber. Once the CO2 is punctured there’s no more air to inflate the chamber with again.

    What the NTSB, in effect, is saying is that Fuddy was videoed in the water wearing two popped balloons (CO2 cartridges) but when she was retrieved from the water only one of the balloons was popped. Can’t be. You can’t un-pop a balloon.

    And in the images of Fuddy next to the plane AND the images of her next to Yamamoto, both chambers are clearly seen as inflated. So at the point that she supposedly let go of Yamamoto’s hand to drift off by herself, both her balloons/cartridges were popped. There was no way for anybody to unpop one of the balloons so that one was still intact when the USCG lifted her from the water.

    There is NO WAY that what the USCG retrieved from the water was the same Fuddy as is seen in the video, if the witnesses’ stories are accurate.