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  • Back from Bunkerville – Back from the Brink – My Report from the Front Lines

    04/23/2014 6:37:24 AM PDT · 50 of 52
    butterdezillion to humblegunner

    GMA and Nightline belong in “news”. Unless what is on GMA and Nightline is being further scrutinized; then it doesn’t. And you haven’t made it your life’s mission to chew people out for posting content that’s in “news” - only for posting content that’s not in the “news”.

    I don’t know if you’ve ever said why this eyewitness account, for instance, could be posted without harassment from you if it was posted under the “Good Morning America” filter, but would automatically be trash if it was published independently - like, say, on a blog.

    Why is that, HG? If none of it is credible, then why single out only the things not endorsed by the MSM? Do you consider the source on this thread’s article to be credible? Why or why not? Your buddies have already accused a long-time Freeper of blog-pimping and implied that the eyewitness report of this Vietnam vet who rose to the call of duty in NV is trash. Why? Why are real people fit to be trashed for speaking up, while the MSM people get a free pass to say all they want without harassment here?

    And what’s sad is that the people piping up the loudest to ridicule and belittle the normal people who speak up with the information they have... are the same people who are on the Freepathon threads telling us we should contribute so we can “resist tyranny”.

    Makes no sense.

  • Back from Bunkerville – Back from the Brink – My Report from the Front Lines

    04/23/2014 6:04:07 AM PDT · 43 of 52
    butterdezillion to humblegunner

    I was giving you a chance to clarify.

    Seems to me you told me that Good Morning America and Nightline are credible sources. But then you didn’t want to see what they actually had in their video...

    So I’m a little bit confused. Seems like you think GMA’s BENT/commentary on footage is credible but not the actual footage that they’re commenting on.

    So it seems like maybe MSM ANALYSIS is credible, and everything else is just chat, bunk, or whatever.

    But as always, I’ll leave room for you to clarify. Maybe I’m misunderstanding. If so, you can set the record straight.

  • Back from Bunkerville – Back from the Brink – My Report from the Front Lines

    04/23/2014 5:43:08 AM PDT · 41 of 52
    butterdezillion to humblegunner

    You tell me. What sources do you consider credible?

  • Back from Bunkerville – Back from the Brink – My Report from the Front Lines

    04/23/2014 5:22:12 AM PDT · 39 of 52
    butterdezillion to humblegunner

    The “credible” sources that never reported Extortion 17 or what this blog post reports about the Bundy ranch (or a host of other important things)?

    I’m glad you’ve suspended your usual derision of non-MSM reports long enough to allow this blog’s eyewitness account of what happened at the Bundy ranch - which is NOT being reported in any of the sources you consider so credible.

    Without such reports, Free Republic would be engaged in a game of “wherever the media points, FR dutifully looks”. As if Freepers have a duty to busy ourselves with false flags like political gossip - as if we’re mere political paparazzi groupies - while real flags fly unnoticed on the grave of our country and its heroes.

  • Back from Bunkerville – Back from the Brink – My Report from the Front Lines

    04/22/2014 7:56:30 AM PDT · 27 of 52
    butterdezillion to Mariner; sarasmom

    Amen, brother.

    What’s interesting is that Extortion 17, that she’s presenting herself as being concerned about, was not reported on the supposedly “credible” sources that are supposed to govern what Freepers think/talk about. Either the tagline is camouflage, or she’s acting very hypocritically.

    Now it’s back to real life, where I can think about what I think is important and not what the media shills want us to be talking about. At least this important subject was allowed to be in the public view - even on the sidebar, without new snarky ridicule being added into the thread title every hour or so. Must be one of the approved topics.

  • BREAKING: Emails Show Lois Lerner Fed True the Vote Tax Information to Democrat Elijah Cummings

    04/10/2014 5:13:07 PM PDT · 292 of 307
    butterdezillion to humblegunner

    You can’t tell anything from any of the 5 images I posted, which most people have acknowledged are people (with the exception of the image some here have claimed is a shoe and pants)?

    It’s funny that when ABC posted the video I didn’t hear people wondering why ABC showed all this garbled junk, where you couldn’t even tell there were any people in the images...

    People who had no trouble saying that this vague dark stuff must be Fuddy’s hair, or this little glimmer of purple must be her shirt.... somehow couldn’t see anything else in those images with enough clarity to be sure of anything - in spite of clear shapes, sizes, colors, connections, etc.

    The cylinder is roughly the width of Yamamoto’s face. It has something tubular along its upper contour. It’s a bronze color. Those are objective observations. Anybody can come up with that much.

    Somebody on my blog suggested it could be the container that sometimes holds the life jackets. But Puentes filmed himself getting the life jacket out of a paper packet inside the pocket of the seat in front of him, so it’s not that.

  • BREAKING: Emails Show Lois Lerner Fed True the Vote Tax Information to Democrat Elijah Cummings

    04/10/2014 4:59:39 PM PDT · 290 of 307
    butterdezillion to 2harddrive

    The states are where the serious law enforcement has to happen.

    But don’t hold your breath. The state AG’s are beholden to the media and to the rotten party players. It’s all one great big orgy of power.

    If ever we needed the REAL power to have a grand jury, it’s now. Why doesn’t that ever seem to work?

    Now that Lerner’s not in her position any more, could the Tea party sue her into bankruptcy in a civil lawsuit, at least?

  • BREAKING: Emails Show Lois Lerner Fed True the Vote Tax Information to Democrat Elijah Cummings

    04/10/2014 4:55:29 PM PDT · 289 of 307
    butterdezillion to Skooz

    Why do we let them get away with this? Why does the media get away with either burying or outright lying about the serious things going on in our country? Why do we play their game? We dance to whatever tune they play. Rush and the other talkers never break their own stories; they just piddle around with the stories the lamestream media wants us to piddle around with.

    And it’s pretty close to that here too.

    At some point we have to do more than sit on here and b!tch. When is the Texas AG going to file charges against Lois Lerner for crimes committed against constituents in his state? How do we Freepers make it happen?

    Let’s roll.

  • BREAKING: Emails Show Lois Lerner Fed True the Vote Tax Information to Democrat Elijah Cummings

    04/10/2014 4:49:32 PM PDT · 287 of 307
    butterdezillion to NOVACPA

    Who is the Sergeant at Arms right now?

  • BREAKING: Emails Show Lois Lerner Fed True the Vote Tax Information to Democrat Elijah Cummings

    04/10/2014 4:47:35 PM PDT · 286 of 307
    butterdezillion to butterdezillion

    Sheesh. Should have been:

    “According to the story, Fuddy was picked up by Mark Peer, the rescue swimmer in the 2nd USCG helicopter to arrive there. The 2nd helicopter arrived on-scene at 4:54. Fourteen minutes AFTER the media reported one dead.”

  • BREAKING: Emails Show Lois Lerner Fed True the Vote Tax Information to Democrat Elijah Cummings

    04/10/2014 4:44:39 PM PDT · 285 of 307
    butterdezillion to humblegunner; Jim Robinson

    I don’t feel that what I’m posting is nutbaggery in any way.

    Jim, did you tell me that if I thought it was nutbaggery I shouldn’t post it, or did you tell me not to post about Fuddy’s death? Or did you say something else?

    HG and I seem to remember things a bit differently so maybe you can clarify.

  • BREAKING: Emails Show Lois Lerner Fed True the Vote Tax Information to Democrat Elijah Cummings

    04/10/2014 4:41:52 PM PDT · 284 of 307
    butterdezillion to humblegunner

    How is looking more closely at what’s in an ABC video any different than looking more closely at what’s in an NBC “memo”?

    And I would note that you mocked the images from the video but never earnestly said what those 5 images were, or the cylindrical stuff in the water, or the tube-type stuff, or anything.

    I’ve noticed something about you, HG: you very rarely post substance. It’s easy to mock from the sidelines, a lot harder to put real skin in the game.

  • BREAKING: Emails Show Lois Lerner Fed True the Vote Tax Information to Democrat Elijah Cummings

    04/10/2014 4:37:01 PM PDT · 283 of 307
    butterdezillion to humblegunner

    According to the story, Fuddy was picked up by Mark Peer, the rescue swimmer in the 2nd USCG helicopter to arrive there. The 2nd helicopter arrived on-scene at 4:54. Fourteen minutes before the media reported one dead.

    In reality, the USCG report doesn’t have that helicopter picking up anybody from the water. The CAD communications have the USCG PLANE picking up somebody from the water at 4:35. But the plane claims it was flying at 1500 ft and had only 8 persons on board at all times.

    IOW, none of the USCG aircraft admit to picking up Fuddy at any time. So how did she get picked up out of the water?

    Somebody started to write a note in the USCG plane’s comm sheet at 4:39 but then they left the line blank. Something was happening then but they left that part out. I wonder why.

    The USCG plane’s comm sheet - the on-scene commanders whose job was to keep track of all this stuff - says the first USCG helicopter pulled one person from the water, and that’s all they have record of ANY USCG aircraft retrieving. The CAD communications have the plane itself retrieving one, didn’t report how many the first helicopter had retrieved, and didn’t have the 2nd USCG helicopter retrieving anybody. Neither document matches what the USCG rescue swimmers told the media afterwards.

    The claims in these reports are all REALLY screwed up. On all the major details.

    These screwed-up reports are every bit as real as Lerner’s email.

  • BREAKING: Emails Show Lois Lerner Fed True the Vote Tax Information to Democrat Elijah Cummings

    04/10/2014 3:53:14 PM PDT · 281 of 307
    butterdezillion to humblegunner; Jim Robinson

    You said, “I don’t see anyone banned for or from speaking about anything”, darling. And that sounds totally different than what both you and I saw Jim post.

    I didn’t make that video. That video was put out by ABC - which you, at one point, said made it worthy of being in the “news” section. I’m simply pointing out what is there. Sort of like those who pointed out what was in the Bush memo that Dan Rather aired on TV. None of the “experts” took up that banner. They considered it “batsh!t crazy”.

    They didn’t like the natural conclusion so they refused to admit the evidence into scrutiny. They let Rather’s claims stand but refused to submit his evidence to scrutiny. Just like ABC’s claims are allowed to stand (nothing to see here folks; the “birthers” are crazy) but an examination of ABC’s own EVIDENCE is forbidden. Right here on Free Republic.

    If evidence that supports an “unacceptable” conclusion is not OK here then somebody better tell us what conclusions are OK so we make sure to regurgitate only the evidence that supports those conclusions.

    And if only undisputed evidence is allowable then - like I said - FR will become very quiet. This isn’t about me. It’s about the role of evidence. Are we an evidence-based community, or are we an agenda-based community? If we don’t have the truth, or don’t care if we have the truth, then we’re no different than the politicians and ideologues that we claim to despise.

  • BREAKING: Emails Show Lois Lerner Fed True the Vote Tax Information to Democrat Elijah Cummings

    04/10/2014 3:27:12 PM PDT · 279 of 307
    butterdezillion to humblegunner; Jim Robinson

    I have no desire to fly under the radar. This is his place. If he’s going to tell me not to post on that subject then that’s that. But you better not lie about the fact that he said it.

    If evidence becomes “bat-sh!t crazy” because somebody else either sees or interprets it differently, then Free Republic is going to get really, really quiet because there will be NOTHING left to say. For anybody.

  • THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)

    04/10/2014 3:22:43 PM PDT · 172 of 368
    butterdezillion to CatherineofAragon

    Your reading comprehension is terrible. I don’t wish to hijack this thread so I’ll just say to anybody looking at this to go look at that post - or anywhere in that thread or anyplace else - and show me where I said there WAS a wax double in the casket. My argument is that there was nothing resembling a body in that casket - based on the one inside-casket image that we know is genuine from that funeral. Sheesh. What do they teach in schools these days anyway?

    What I brought to this thread was the same standard/epistemology that was applied to me: that if somebody decides that the conclusion you might reach is unacceptable, they will forbid your evidence.

    You, CatherineofAragorn thought it was laughably crazy to think that the regime (or whoever) would fake a death, complete with faked funeral, so you watched the other thread with amusement and agreed when I was told not to speak of the evidence any more.

    Did you do the same in the thread about dozens of Benghazi witnesses being given new identities to evade Congressional investigation? It’s the same thing, CatherineofAragorn. Is that such an incredible, ridiculous, BATSH!T CRAZY conclusion that you got great entertainment out of watching the people who brought forth evidence being ridiculed and silenced in that thread?

    Oh, wait. That didn’t happen to them, did it? Why not? How do you suppose they give new identities to people? How do they get rid of the old ones?

    If somebody suggests in this thread that the EPA or other federal agencies are trying to keep land from being farmed to produce food - for Agenda 21 purposes, anti-fracking purposes, or whatever - will their theory and any evidence of it be called “batsh!t crazy” and shut down?

    What I’m talking about here is an epistemology. I go where the evidence takes me. If that’s not acceptable - if some evidence is out of bounds for “respectable” people - then I and any other evidence-based people are in the wrong place, and people here better be careful what they say. Better look over their shoulder before speaking just like they have to do with the regime.

    Is that really how we want things to be here?

  • BREAKING: Emails Show Lois Lerner Fed True the Vote Tax Information to Democrat Elijah Cummings

    04/10/2014 3:05:11 PM PDT · 277 of 307
    butterdezillion to humblegunner; Jim Robinson

    Am I allowed to speak about the Fuddy evidence then?

  • THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)

    04/10/2014 2:14:11 PM PDT · 149 of 368
    butterdezillion to crz

    Start right here at the comment I’m replying to, to see how people justify serious comments just like the sarcastic ones I made.

    BTW, I never did say I thought there was a wax dummy in a casket, and anybody who says otherwise has really poor reading comprehension. I said I was surprised that there WASN’T - but instead there was a photoshop of some images that didn’t match the genuine photo of the casket.

    The method is the same though. Start out with the assumption that there are some things beyond the dignity of this thug regime (such as faking a death/funeral in order to give somebody a new identity away from potential Congressional investigation - like we already know they did with dozens of Benghazi witnesses) and then when anybody comes up with evidence that suggests that this unthinkable thing actually happened, you mock it (or watch the thread for amusement purposes) and then say that the idea is batsh!t crazy so go away to Alex Jones.

    That’s how it’s done. People get a real kick out of laughing at claims that the regime (or somebody else) might have done elsewhere exactly what was done in Benghazi.... It’s just such a hilarious subject... What kind of morons would think that the regime would go to the trouble of faking deaths to evade investigations? .... Only idjits. We all know Benghazi didn’t happen....

  • BREAKING: Emails Show Lois Lerner Fed True the Vote Tax Information to Democrat Elijah Cummings

    04/10/2014 2:02:39 PM PDT · 273 of 307
    butterdezillion to humblegunner

    The video with concrete lines, curves, etc is just as real as the email with concrete lines, curves, etc.

    The media report of a death 37 minutes before Fuddy was still called in “critical” condition is real.

    If somebody said they saw different words in that email than what the R Congressmen said they saw, then would those emails be “crazy”, and no longer evidence?

    Would we banned from speaking about those emails on FR then?

  • THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)

    04/10/2014 1:57:47 PM PDT · 139 of 368
    butterdezillion to demshateGod

    The government can do whatever it wants, until somebody stops it.

    That’s where we’re at. Sad but true.

    Either we figure out a way to stop it, or it will bulldoze right through everything we hold dear.

    That’s exactly what the Founders believed. And our totally broken system of accountability has proven them right.

    There’s supposed to be a way to stop the government from using our money against us for reasons that aren’t even supported by any factual evidence of need. But the system is broken; unelected bureaucrats can say whatever they want and we the people have no real recourse.

    In the end all resistance will be made unlawful, and then we’ll be in a boat we never thought we’d be in. I don’t know if this family is justified or not, but I do believe that the boat they’re in is the same one we’ll all be in soon unless we somehow FORCE the government to obey the Constitution.

  • THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)

    04/10/2014 1:34:37 PM PDT · 126 of 368
    butterdezillion to demshateGod

    What hill should we die on?

    Dead serious question.

  • THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)

    04/10/2014 1:33:37 PM PDT · 125 of 368
    butterdezillion to CatherineofAragon

    I’ve never said I thought there was a wax dummy in a coffin. I said that what was in the coffin was immaterial to me because there are ways to make it appear like a person is there - but that I brought the subject up because there was EVIDENCE that KITV photoshopped the footage, and because the one known-authentic image did not fit what was in the photoshops. Just like what’s actually in the “Good Morning America” and “Nightline” videos don’t fit what is in the official narrative. Nor does what is in the official reports fit what is in the “official narrative”.

    But oh well. Nothing to see here. Only crazy people would care that none of it makes sense.

    Evidence doesn’t matter. That’s the lesson to be learned in all of this. At Free Republic evidence does not matter. What matters is if “mainstream people” will think that we’re pointing out evidence that suggests something BATSH!T CRAZY.

    IOW, take the posts I’ve put in this thread, remove anything that I put in that let people know I say it sarcastically, put it in the mouth of the leadership here, and you’ve got a pretty good picture of what’s going on.

    Anybody wanting to discuss evidence that might suggest something is wrong - REALLY wrong - in America, be careful or you may be labeled batsh!t crazy and told to get a life.

    Just want to make sure everybody knows that because there are a LOT of threads on FR that people like ABC would call “batsh!t crazy”, and people who participate in those threads might want to think twice before commenting, or suggesting anything “unapproved” - regardless of what evidence they cite to support their comments.

  • BREAKING: Emails Show Lois Lerner Fed True the Vote Tax Information to Democrat Elijah Cummings

    04/10/2014 1:21:16 PM PDT · 271 of 307
    butterdezillion to ConservativeMan55; humblegunner

    You must be CRAZY to think that anybody in our government would do anything corrupt. You know how many people had to be in on that conspiracy? No WAY could anything like this have ever happened. Too many powerful people watching.

    The REPUBLICANS would never have let the Tea Party be targeted; they would have defied the media and stepped right in and forced federal law enforcement to do something. NO WAY would they let Eric Holder only protect “his people” in such a blatant manner, right in front of everybody, without ever making a move to truly stop him.

    It could never happen here. These emails must be a mistake. They must be faked by the Tea Party, in a crazy attempt to frame her as participating in some half-baked conspiracy plot. Those Tea Partiers should get a life. If there was really anything bad in those emails they would never have been released. And since the media vetted Lerner and found her innocent - heck, her innocence may already have been decided on TWITTER, for gosh’s sakes! - there’s no way she could be guilty of wrong-doing.

    Go take your batsh!t crazy conspiracy theories somewhere else. They don’t belong here.

    Right?

  • THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)

    04/10/2014 1:05:40 PM PDT · 103 of 368
    butterdezillion to crz

    No WAY could Lois Lerner be doing anything wrong; if she had done anything wrong the REPUBLICAN Congress would have ousted her years and years ago. She would have been arrested before her little thought could even make it onto an email to be sent out. Her co-workers in the regime would have jumped on her so badly that she would never have been able to do a thing! Because the system works. Really, really, REALLY it works (and I don’t even have my fingers crossed behind my back when I say that either!). It stops all the bad guys before they do bad things. Nothing truly bad can ever happen in America. No corruption. No crimes. No conspiracies to do anything but love people and honor the Constitution, here in this country. There is no battle for the soul of America and the free world. That’s all just a big lie made up by crazy people who need to get a life.

    There are no cats in America and the streets are paved with cheese. Everybody knows that.

    Only freak conspiracy theorists would say otherwise. And if you want to peddle that kind of conspiracy nonsense you better go someplace else.

  • THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)

    04/10/2014 12:45:35 PM PDT · 71 of 368
    butterdezillion to Lou Budvis

    I haven’t followed this story much, to be honest, but it seems like the daughter is saying that the cattle belong to them but are being stolen by the feds, and that the fees they’d been forced to pay were used AGAINST the very people who were supposed to be served by those fees.

    As an aside, maybe some of us could buy out the land that the US capitol and White House sit on, and then maybe we could set our own rules for what could go on in those places...

    Oh, wait, we supposedly already DO own that land, and supposedly already DO have established rules for what can be done there...

    Maybe however the feds choose to get rid of this family.... is how we the people who own the Capitol and White House should get rid of the squatters there... who have broken every contract we the people have ever made with them - namely, the Constitution.

  • THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)

    04/10/2014 12:37:23 PM PDT · 67 of 368
    butterdezillion to crz

    When I was told something similar here there was no sarc tag anywhere.

    Nor was there playful banter to make the sarcasm evident. It was dead serious.

  • THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)

    04/10/2014 12:31:48 PM PDT · 65 of 368
    butterdezillion to Lou Budvis

    There you go! Somebody SANE, for once. Somebody like Obama, who recognizes that unless you were the first person to set foot on a piece of land, you can’t own it.

    As soon as the first person to set foot in America can show us his birth certificate he can have the whole place.

    Er... OK, as soon as somebody can show us a US birth certificate from about 5000BC, they get the whole place.

  • THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)

    04/10/2014 12:27:33 PM PDT · 61 of 368
    butterdezillion to crz

    What NSA scandal? Where are you getting your information from anyway? Some crazy conspiracy site? We would never let that kind of batsh!t crazy talk happen here.

    The NSA would NEVER even want to do something scandalous, even if the ever-vigilant, patriotic everyday people in this country were willing to scream loudly enough to keep our ever-just federal law enforcement from investigating even the SLIGHTEST HINT of corruption. NO WAY would our people or Eric Holder’s justice department EVER let the NSA get away with a scandal or something bad against this country.

    You are clearly just WAY too conspiratorial.

    Go back to Alex Jones’ site where you belong, and keep that crap out of here.

  • THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)

    04/10/2014 12:23:04 PM PDT · 55 of 368
    butterdezillion to Dead Corpse

    But they make us LOOK bad. It makes us look really bad when they go on about that vast conspiracy with millions of Jews being burned in the ovens before WWII - crazy huge conspiracy talk. We do everything in our power to tell them they’re nucking futs but just having them here making those claims .... in spite of all the evidence we offer against them... makes us look really, really bad.

    No, I think we need to burn them at the stake. They’ll taste even better burnt.

  • THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)

    04/10/2014 12:15:41 PM PDT · 50 of 368
    butterdezillion to crz

    You must be CRAZY if you think that the regime would target Free Republic just because it’s the center of conservative debate and gets lots and lots of hits. This place is impenetrable because the people in charge are all-knowing and could NEVER be tricked by somebody posing as a conservative when they’re really a government shill. You’ve GOT to be batsh!t crazy to not take everybody at face value here. If they say they’re conservative, gol’durn it, they must be conservative.

    Go someplace else with your crazy conspiracy talk. Leftists have such a keep sense of justice and decorum that they would NEVER invade a private enterprise and seek to manipulate public thought in such an underhanded way!

    Wow, some people are just so crazy. Why can’t they just play the political tapdancing games that all the OTHER sites and posters are playing? Sheesh. You’d think we were in a war for our survival or something, and there could be double-agents and saboteurs amongst us...

  • THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)

    04/10/2014 12:05:32 PM PDT · 43 of 368
    butterdezillion to Hornet22

    Nah, it could never happen here. People in America aren’t willing to be bought with mere money. Some of these people are REPUBLICANS, after all - and we know that the political system has NEVER been able to buy co-conspirators with mere MONEY! You must be another one of those crazy conspiracy talk people, who believe that humans are corruptible and that government can conspire against its own citizens.

    I bet you’re so crazy you actually believe that all those millions of Europeans actually stayed silent while millions of Jews, handicapped, elderly people, and dissidents were burned in ovens right before WWII.

    Batsh!t crazy talk. No way that coulda happened. It would have been a MASSIVE conspiracy. You’re gonna make everybody think we’re a bunch of LOONS here. Just go away.

  • THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)

    04/10/2014 12:01:01 PM PDT · 38 of 368
    butterdezillion to Dead Corpse

    I’m glad there’s somebody else on this thread who is sane! Good grief, this place is going to lose its reputation if us good intellectual types don’t kick out all the witches that are making us look bad.

  • THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)

    04/10/2014 11:54:14 AM PDT · 30 of 368
    butterdezillion to Dead Corpse

    That’s right. Anybody who would think this could be about fracking instead of about turtles is obviously somebody who thinks the moon landing was faked, because turtles and the moon always go hand in hand.

    Batsh!t crazy talk, all of it! Anybody suggesting such a crazy, conspiratorial thing should be tested to see if they float like a duck and if they do.... it’s a witch!

  • THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)

    04/10/2014 11:46:27 AM PDT · 20 of 368
    butterdezillion to Dead Corpse

    No way it could be about something besides tortoises. The government said it was about tortoises and our government would never *lie* to us. That would be a conspiracy, and conspiracies can’t happen here. It’s just crazy for anybody to even suggest such a thing.

    I’m really glad you didn’t suggest such a thing.

    Right?

  • THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)

    04/10/2014 11:41:01 AM PDT · 15 of 368
    butterdezillion to xzins

    Isn’t this crazy conspiracy talk? Why is this even being discussed? None of this could really happen here. Did you hear all those people she’s saying have been bought off by our angelic government? That’s just crazy. It could never happen here.

    Right?

  • House panel to hold contempt vote on IRS official [Live Thread]

    04/10/2014 9:24:42 AM PDT · 311 of 435
    butterdezillion to Political Junkie Too

    I don’t get it. Everybody knows that conspiracies and crimes do not happen with the US government. That’s crazy talk. We keep talking like this, and we’re going to lose all our credibility.

    Right?

  • CIA was Involved in Benghazi Attack

    04/10/2014 8:36:45 AM PDT · 5 of 16
    butterdezillion to edcoil

    Nothing is ever proven.

    Especially things that nobody with the authority has the guts to put on trial.

  • BREAKING: House Ways and Means Committee Votes to Refer Lois Lerner For Criminal Charges

    04/09/2014 10:55:53 AM PDT · 44 of 74
    butterdezillion to Cicero

    Pathetic. When are the idiots in DC ever gonna figure out where this country is at?

    Maybe when the rest of us figure it out and say it plainly without worrying about losing our “credibility” in the eyes of the same incestuous media-political orgy that put us in this mess in the first place...

  • Evidence the Hawaii Medical Examiner turned a blind eye to the death of Loretta Fuddy

    04/08/2014 5:23:49 AM PDT · 663 of 665
    butterdezillion to little jeremiah

    Nah. Too “conspiratorial”. Doesn’t matter if it’s factual.

    That’s where we’re at right here on Free Republic.

  • Evidence the Hawaii Medical Examiner turned a blind eye to the death of Loretta Fuddy

    04/07/2014 9:17:09 AM PDT · 651 of 665
    butterdezillion to butterdezillion

    The redaction in the USCG report indicates the Dr. who first contacted the USCG asking about Fuddy and Yamamoto has 5 letters in the first name and 5 in the last name. Maybe Linda Rosen, who has been chosen as Fuddy’s permanent replacement. See http://governor.hawaii.gov/blog/governor-names-dr-linda-rosen-as-department-of-health-director/

    The guy who was immediately made the interim director - bypassing Keith Yamamoto, Fuddy’s deputy director - was Gary Gill (see http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20131224_Gill_named_interim_director_at_state_health_department.html )

    Gill was the guy in charge of the HDOH’s state laboratory division, which does laboratory testing for autopsies...

  • Evidence the Hawaii Medical Examiner turned a blind eye to the death of Loretta Fuddy

    04/07/2014 8:32:35 AM PDT · 650 of 665
    butterdezillion to cousteausghost

    I will say you’ve got me there though. I do not attend many funerals from different denominations. So maybe other people do things differently.

  • Evidence the Hawaii Medical Examiner turned a blind eye to the death of Loretta Fuddy

    04/07/2014 8:26:14 AM PDT · 649 of 665
    butterdezillion to cousteausghost

    I don’t believe there was a wax dummy. Please listen.

  • Evidence the Hawaii Medical Examiner turned a blind eye to the death of Loretta Fuddy

    04/07/2014 7:48:29 AM PDT · 646 of 665
    butterdezillion to GBA

    We’re never as aware of our own body odor as the people around us are.

    It’s pretty easy to smell the obvious ones here. The more dangerous ones are those who’ve learned to use deodorant. I think there are quite a few here and they’ve covered themselves amazingly well...

  • Evidence the Hawaii Medical Examiner turned a blind eye to the death of Loretta Fuddy

    04/07/2014 7:44:06 AM PDT · 645 of 665
    butterdezillion to cousteausghost

    I can just see it. Somebody touches Fuddy’s dead body in the casket and says, “Wow. She feels really rubbery!”

    Sheesh. How many funerals have you attended? My husband is a pastor; I’m a church organist. Funerals are a huge part of what we do. I’ve been to funerals where I couldn’t even tell it was the same person in the casket - in fact, just about a month ago.

    You don’t mess with the body in a casket, and you don’t question the arrangements the family made. Not if you’re an attendee of the funeral.

    Granted, I’m different than most because I don’t watch TV, but I’m not sure how many people who were at the funeral would have watched the kitv report about it afterwards, and even if they saw that there were hands showing in the maybe 1-second clip, do you really think they’re going to tell the world, “No! KITV photoshopped that clip!”?

    And even if they did, loudly enough for anybody to know? I’ve got video showing extra stuff in the water after the crash and I can’t even make a dent in the number of people who saw ABC’s original posting of the video, claiming it would silence the “crazy conspiracists”.

    This is Hawaii. And anybody who’s investigated anything in Hawaii knows exactly what that means.

  • Evidence the Hawaii Medical Examiner turned a blind eye to the death of Loretta Fuddy

    04/07/2014 7:34:41 AM PDT · 643 of 665
    butterdezillion to cousteausghost

    Some guy claiming to be a James Ah Lo who worked with Fuddy went on my blog to chew me out for being so insensitive. But even HE - who wanted to debunk my claims - never said he saw her body in the casket, which is the obvious thing for somebody to say to rebuke the claim that her body wasn’t in that casket.

    It’s neither here nor there whether they say they saw her body, because it could easily be a wax double anyway, but it is very curious that even when trying to chew me out nobody will say they saw the body in the casket.

    And why the photoshopping by kitv?

    See, it doesn’t make any difference to me whether there was what appeared to be a body in the casket or not. The only reason I’ve said anything about it is because the photoshopping is bizarre. The appearance of the casket from above, in the image we know is authentic from the Honolulu Diocese website, is bizarre. It is not what I expected, and there’s no reason for it to be that way - ESPECIALLY if there was anything posing as her body in that casket.

    Her pasty white hands from the kitv image are supposed to be the dark blob in the Diocese image? None of her body (elbows, stomach, etc) shows from above even though the lining of the casket that’s visible shows the depth to which we are able to see into the casket itself? And why the photoshopping in the kitv images?

  • Evidence the Hawaii Medical Examiner turned a blind eye to the death of Loretta Fuddy

    04/07/2014 7:09:02 AM PDT · 641 of 665
    butterdezillion to cousteausghost

    You are so tiresome. You don’t listen.

    I never said they didn’t file past her casket. I asked you which of them specifically said they saw Fuddy in the casket. And you’ve still not answered. Give me the name of somebody who specifically said they saw Fuddy in that casket that day.

  • Evidence the Hawaii Medical Examiner turned a blind eye to the death of Loretta Fuddy

    04/07/2014 7:07:25 AM PDT · 640 of 665
    butterdezillion to butterdezillion

    Seems like the word “autopsy” is used to refer to the forensic examination of the body. The coroner’s inquest into the cause of death may or may not include a forensic examination of the body.

    The statute doesn’t say what the forensic examination includes - except that it must be done by a certified anatomic or forensic pathologist. The statutes provide for costs for lab work on organs and tissues but nowhere says that an autopsy has to include those things. So we really don’t know whether that stuff was done. The way we would know is by having the lab results cited but the AP report on the autopsy doesn’t cite any lab work. Just external, psychological stuff that could be claimed to rely on witness statements.

    841-18: “§841-18 Coroner’s physician; laboratory facilities. The medical examiner or any of the medical examiner’s assistants in the city and county of Honolulu, and any experienced or qualified government physician designated by the coroner in the counties of Hawaii, Maui, and Kauai, shall be the coroner’s physician for such county or city and county. The facilities of the laboratories of the state department of health shall be made available to the coroner’s physician. The term government physician as used in this chapter means a physician employed by the State or any of its political subdivisions. [L 1949, c 355, pt of §5; RL 1955, §260-18; am L 1962, c 8, §2; HRS §715-18; ren L 1972, c 9, pt of §1; gen ch 1985]”
    >>>>

    IOW, the HDOH does the lab testing. Convenient.

    It was interesting in the USCG report: it was a female doctor from the HDOH who contacted USCG asking the status of Fuddy and Yamamoto, at 5:15pm, which was 2 minutes before the MCFD said that the USCG reported one in critical condition. That wouldn’t be somebody at the Vital Records Dept; that would be somebody else. I wonder what department at the HDOH has doctors. Maybe the lab? Who else?

  • Evidence the Hawaii Medical Examiner turned a blind eye to the death of Loretta Fuddy

    04/07/2014 6:45:17 AM PDT · 637 of 665
    butterdezillion to butterdezillion

    §841-14 Autopsies and further investigations. If, in the opinion of the coroner, or of the coroner’s physician, or of the prosecuting attorney, or of the chief of police (in the city and county of Honolulu), an autopsy of the remains of any human body appearing to have come to death under any of the circumstances set forth in section 841-3 is necessary in the interest of the public safety or welfare, that person shall cause to have performed, such an autopsy. If, in the opinion of the coroner’s physician, a further or additional investigation as to the cause of death is necessary, the coroner’s physician may conduct the same or have the same made, and the expenses thereof shall be paid by the county concerned, and for this purpose, the coroner’s physician shall have the duties and powers conferred upon the coroner or deputy coroner by sections 841-4 to 841-8.
    >>>>>

    An “autopsy” apparently doesn’t have to include a forensic examination of the body. But if the coroner’s physician needs to do a forensic examination of the body in order to determine the cause of death, that examination is to be done.

    Which makes the autopsy report especially suspicious. Is there anything in that report that even indicates that a forensic examination of a/the body was done?

  • Evidence the Hawaii Medical Examiner turned a blind eye to the death of Loretta Fuddy

    04/07/2014 6:45:16 AM PDT · 636 of 665
    butterdezillion to butterdezillion

    §841-14 Autopsies and further investigations. If, in the opinion of the coroner, or of the coroner’s physician, or of the prosecuting attorney, or of the chief of police (in the city and county of Honolulu), an autopsy of the remains of any human body appearing to have come to death under any of the circumstances set forth in section 841-3 is necessary in the interest of the public safety or welfare, that person shall cause to have performed, such an autopsy. If, in the opinion of the coroner’s physician, a further or additional investigation as to the cause of death is necessary, the coroner’s physician may conduct the same or have the same made, and the expenses thereof shall be paid by the county concerned, and for this purpose, the coroner’s physician shall have the duties and powers conferred upon the coroner or deputy coroner by sections 841-4 to 841-8.
    >>>>>

    An “autopsy” apparently doesn’t have to include a forensic examination of the body. But if the coroner’s physician needs to do a forensic examination of the body in order to determine the cause of death, that examination is to be done.

    Which makes the autopsy report especially suspicious. Is there anything in that report that even indicates that a forensic examination of a/the body was done?

  • Evidence the Hawaii Medical Examiner turned a blind eye to the death of Loretta Fuddy

    04/07/2014 6:26:49 AM PDT · 634 of 665
    butterdezillion to cousteausghost; Jim Robinson

    Jim, cousteausghost has asked me what I see in the video. Am I OK to tell him?