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  • N.H. mom on Ron Paul: ‘Feel like he’s talking to me’

    12/22/2011 8:14:44 AM PST · 60 of 64
    Bokababe to presidio9
    "Fox News had to BEG Ron Paul to come on for MONTHS before he agreed to. Here he provides a wonderful example of just how he manipulates his followers with lies and half-truths. He wouldn't go on, because he didn't want to answer any inconvenient question. That's the only reason."

    Yeah, I can see why a then-candidate for president would reject all the free publicity he could get./s

    I love the stupid crap that comes out of the mouth of the anti-Paul camp. It's so obviously made up as you go along.

    Fox News' Cavuto recently went on air saying that Ron Paul is NOT getting a fair shake from media pundits.

    Guess no one at Fox told him about the "begging" incident./s LOL!

  • Gallup Daily: Newt 25%, Mitt 23%, Paul 12% (All Others, Single Digits)(Steady For Almost Two Weeks)

    12/21/2011 11:42:44 PM PST · 40 of 68
    Bokababe to TitansAFC

    If you look at that graph, the only one “staying steady” is Romney. Newt’s trajectory is downward and Ron Paul’s is upward — as is Perry’s slightly upward trend. It remains to be seen as to where those trajectories go

  • Ron Paul: Racism & the War on Drugs

    12/21/2011 11:37:58 PM PST · 87 of 201
    Bokababe to SteelTrap; All
    While Newt & Romney both have outreach organizations to Hispanic voters-- Ron Paul isn't playing that game. When in one of the debates, Jose Diaz Ballart asked Ron Paul what his message was to Hispanic voters, Ron Paul's reply was, "The same as my message to everyone else."

    This wonderful Black man, TMOT definitely gets Ron Paul's point.

    So who are the Leftist Progressives -- the ones kissing minority butt for votes & promising them "something extra" as TMOT suggests, or the ones treating them like everyone else as simply Americans?

  • N.H. mom on Ron Paul: ‘Feel like he’s talking to me’

    12/20/2011 11:33:02 PM PST · 55 of 64
    Bokababe to pterional
    Ron Paul speaks to Americans who love freedom.

    Yes, he does. But it appears that to many here, liberty and the Constitution are over-rated. They prefer safety, security and control --or the temporary illusion of it.

    Apparently this Mom isn't alone in feeling "Ron Paul is talking to her". Here's another guy who thinks the same, but for very different reasons. (Poor guy seems to have missed the "Ron Paul is a racist" memo/s!)

  • Gingrich Collapses In Iowa, As Ron Paul Surges to the Front

    12/20/2011 3:16:30 PM PST · 161 of 162
    Bokababe to rideharddiefast
    So in the entire time Appeasement Paul served he was never promoted. Is that correct? A doctor goes in as a captain. Dr. Appeasement serves five years and even during Viet Nam is not able to receive even one promotion. I guess he was just as ineffective in the military as he is in politics.

    Yeah, brilliant....yawn.

    Ron Paul was never stationed in Vietnam. He was stationed elsewhere during the Vietnam era -- I think that I read it was in Egypt.

    You can't compare the two men's service -- Rick Perry & Ron Paul's --other than to say that they both served honorably. But they did it for different reasons.

    Rick Perry enlisted because military was Rick Perry's only real ticket out of poverty. He excelled at what he did and was promoted -- good for him -- but he was young & single and it was the sole focus of his life at the time. And the US was not at war when he was in.

    Ron Paul was already a physician and married with kids when he went in, the war in Vietnam was ramping up & he had no idea where he'd be stationed, the military was never going to be his planned career or life-- this was just part of his life, not all of it. He was older and had other responsibilities.

    Then again, you could also compare all of that next to the candidates who got out of military service altogether by hiding behind college deferments, but have no problem "bravely" sending others off to war at the drop of hat.

    All of this military service was decades ago, so the details are relatively unimportant. But I think that a far more relevant question for a potential president should be: "How have they treated Veterans?". I mean we've had Hotdog McCain up on the Hill for decades and what has he done for Veterans? Nothing.

    I don't know the record of other candidates on taking care of Veterans, but I do know that Ron Paul has an excellent record of defending Veterans benefits and rights all the way back to the Reagan era-- even going head to head with Obama on it recently. That is nothing to be ashamed of.

  • US extradites war crimes suspect to Bosnia

    12/20/2011 1:34:29 PM PST · 6 of 6
    Bokababe to Nachum

    He just picked the wrong victims. If he’d have killed Serbs, they’d have let him stay and probably bought him a house (which they likely did anyway).

  • Angelina Jolie inflames new ethnic emotions in Bosnia with her debut as film director

    12/20/2011 8:35:21 AM PST · 39 of 42
    Bokababe to Honorary Serb

    The debut was “co-sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations”.

    State-sponsored political propaganda at it’s finest!

  • Newt Gingrich suggests Ron Paul unprepared, a threat

    12/20/2011 12:04:59 AM PST · 13 of 22
    Bokababe to Jim Robinson
    He's dropping in the polls and Ron Paul is rising. Newt isn't going down without a fight. Scaring people on Ron Paul's foreign policy is a strategic campaign decision for Newt-- it's exactly what I'd do if I were him in the same circumstances. It also keeps people's mind off Newt's Freddie Mac stuff.

    No one ever said that Newt is short on political survival skills. Remains to be seen as to whether or not it works for him.

  • Gingrich Collapses In Iowa, As Ron Paul Surges to the Front

    12/19/2011 11:14:50 PM PST · 141 of 162
    Bokababe to triceratop
    Speaking of the military, isn’t Paul the only veteran besides Perry?

    Yes. Both Ron Paul and Rick Perry were Air Force and both were discharged with the rank of Captain.

    Ron Paul served 1963-1965 in the AF as a Flight Surgeon, then in the United States Air National Guard from 1965-1968. Rick Perry served 1972-1977 as a pilot.

  • Angelina Jolie inflames new ethnic emotions in Bosnia with her debut as film director

    12/19/2011 6:42:39 PM PST · 37 of 42
    Bokababe to Honorary Serb

    I cleared the Firefox browser cache & now it works.

  • Angelina Jolie inflames new ethnic emotions in Bosnia with her debut as film director

    12/19/2011 5:29:29 PM PST · 36 of 42
    Bokababe to Honorary Serb

    OK. The link works properly in IE, it redirects to Media Cleansing in Firefox. That’s weird.

  • Angelina Jolie inflames new ethnic emotions in Bosnia with her debut as film director

    12/19/2011 4:40:48 PM PST · 34 of 42
    Bokababe to Honorary Serb

    I believe you, but I have no idea how you are getting there because that link just keeps taking me to the book when I click on it. I even tried a cut & paste and it redirected me to GM Books anyway.

  • Gingrich Collapses In Iowa, As Ron Paul Surges to the Front

    12/19/2011 4:35:50 PM PST · 129 of 162
    Bokababe to John D
    I think that this is a very different generation than my husband's was going to Vietnam and a hugely different military.

    This generation, even in the military, doesn't just blindly trust what the politicians say like Vietnam era Vets did. This generation has access to news, information & opinions via the internet -- and so do their wives and families -- in ways that earlier generations never had before. (My husband said that when he went to Vietnam, he was the only one in his group who even knew continent Vietnam was on.) And with information on politics, locations and wars, come opinions -- political opinions -- again, political opinions that earlier generations of military really didn't have before they went.

    This is an all volunteer military. They are in it because they chose it. It's more like "employment" than being drafted was.

    Given all that, should it really be such a surprise that they would attempt to also chose their own boss -- their Commander and Chief? Especially, given which Commander and Chief they get might mean the difference between their own life & death? I really don't think it's so shocking. That they'd choose political candidates and send them a few bucks really doesn't surprise me at all.

    That said, it's Obama's popularity with them that astounds me -- but then again, his picture is on their wall everyday whether they like it or not.

  • Angelina Jolie inflames new ethnic emotions in Bosnia with her debut as film director

    12/19/2011 3:48:20 PM PST · 32 of 42
    Bokababe to Honorary Serb

    It’s not fixed. I emailed them again. Its still takes you straight to Brock’s Media Cleansing book

  • Gingrich Collapses In Iowa, As Ron Paul Surges to the Front

    12/19/2011 3:40:05 PM PST · 126 of 162
    Bokababe to Grunthor; All
    And I won't even post this to another thread lest it cause mass wrist-slitting by many Freepers, but a new poll also shows that Ron Paul has overtaken Newt in New Hampshire, too.

    Romney 35%, Paul 21%, Newt 16%, Huntsman 13%. Everyone else in single digits. 8% Undecided.

  • Gingrich Collapses In Iowa, As Ron Paul Surges to the Front

    12/19/2011 3:27:07 PM PST · 125 of 162
    Bokababe to John D
    No one said they are contributing $500 a piece except you

    Go to the site that is putting this bunk out and they are saying that is the average contribution.

    And which site would that be? ABC News? The Wall Street Journal? Politifact?

    As near as I can figure, what you are are referring to is some obscure article on a blog from the 2008 election saying that he had "the highest amount of military donations and the average was $500". That was then -- and I agree, in all likelihood bogus. But this is now and it's real.

    That Ron Paul has the highest amount of military donations of any candidate in this election cycle is a an accepted fact -- even by his Republican rivals.

  • Gingrich Collapses In Iowa, As Ron Paul Surges to the Front

    12/19/2011 2:26:49 PM PST · 118 of 162
    Bokababe to ohioWfan
    LOL! Where in any of that exchange did I say that he was "my guy"? Seriously. Doesn't matter whether he is or isn't -- we were talking about Ron Paul's military support and why THEY would support him, not who I support and why.

    That's why I question your ability to be rational on this -- because you must personalize it and can't even see possible motivations why someone else might do something you wouldn't do -- for reasons that you don't have.

  • Gingrich Collapses In Iowa, As Ron Paul Surges to the Front

    12/19/2011 1:40:37 PM PST · 115 of 162
    Bokababe to ohioWfan Imposters, one and all, I’m sure!

    Our military swears their life to preserving US Constitution — so does Ron Paul. Ron Paul wants them only to go to war when it is specifically for national defense and not for regime-change or nation-building, and only when Congress passes a Declaration of War, the whole country is behind it, they go to win and come home — rather than turning them into the policemen of the world with no win & no end of the WOT in sight. Ron Paul is a Veteran and Ron Paul has fought even Obama to preserve Veteran’s benefits.

    If you don’t see the appeal of that message to members of the US military, then you aren’t putting yourself in their place at all. And if you can’t do that, then you aren’t even rational.

  • Gingrich Collapses In Iowa, As Ron Paul Surges to the Front

    12/19/2011 1:03:47 PM PST · 108 of 162
    Bokababe to John D
    And BTW, I already knew there was an active "Veterans for Ron Paul" organization, Facebook page and movement, so I did a search for similar organizations for each of the major candidates.

    There are no "Veterans for Newt Gingrich", no "Veterans for Mitt Romney" organizations that I can find on a Google search, and no Veterans' orgs for any of the other candidates with the exception of Rick Perry. There was a "Veterans for Rick Perry" organization that got him to run for president but according to their website, they disbanded when he jumped into the race.

    That should lso tell you something.

  • Gingrich Collapses In Iowa, As Ron Paul Surges to the Front

    12/19/2011 12:40:58 PM PST · 105 of 162
    Bokababe to John D
    You know that graph is bogus.

    You and I have had this conversation before.

    No one said they are contributing $500 a piece except you -- most of his contributions are small $20, $50 dollar donations. Would Paul fans spam polls? Sure. Would they-- en masse--risk committing a Federal offense by falsifying their Federal political contribution information? Not likely.

    Believe what you like. Doesn't change anything.

  • Gingrich Collapses In Iowa, As Ron Paul Surges to the Front

    12/19/2011 11:56:17 AM PST · 101 of 162
    Bokababe to Roninf5-1
    Yeah, that Islamic threat is such a danger that after 9/11 Bush let millions of illegal aliens from God-knows-where carrying God-know-what waltz right in though the Mexican border and then he allowed hundreds of thousands of Muslim immigrate legally. Thank God he created the DHS and TSA to spy on American citizens and grope Grandma and kids at the airports. And that Al Qaeda! They are such a dangerous, mortal enemy that the US and NATO bombed the people of Libya to hand that country over to them.

    Uh-oh, someone who actually thinks. Houston, we may have a problem. ;)

  • Gingrich Collapses In Iowa, As Ron Paul Surges to the Front

    12/19/2011 11:07:13 AM PST · 94 of 162
    Bokababe to ohioWfan
    Although you make a few good points about what 'young people' are looking for, you miss all the massive negatives about Ron Paul's dangerous foreign policy (remember, the 'young people' you refer to are the ones in our military who have been sacrificing their lives and freedom to fight Islamic terrorism - your claim that they care more about 'losing freedoms' than the danger of terrorism isn't valid, IMO).


    You may not like the information or the conclusions based on facts on the ground, but that doesn't mean that they are wrong.

    Virtually no one here like the fact that Ron Paul is leading in the polls in Iowa, but again, that doesn't mean it isn't true.

  • Gingrich Collapses In Iowa, As Ron Paul Surges to the Front

  • Gingrich Collapses In Iowa, As Ron Paul Surges to the Front

    12/19/2011 10:35:20 AM PST · 85 of 162
    Bokababe to Grunthor
    Holy crap.....Romney or Paul?

    The GOP is being taken over by the younger generation who has no loyalty to Party, only to their futures. They can't do anything to change the Democratic Party and they don't want Obama because they see him as no better and even worse than Bush, so they, along with the Independents and disaffected Democrats, are flexing their muscles and taking over the Republican Party to elect Ron Paul.

    They are counting on that "Anybody but Obama" rhetoric coming from the GOP faithful actually meaning something come election day -- and Ron Paul is their choice of "Anybody".

    Like it or not, I think that the GOP is going to face a big choice -- Change or Die -- this election. Retool & remake itself for the future and return to its Constitutional roots, or these young voters are going to drive this election and this Party into a ditch.

    You may hate it, but I really think that this is what's happening.

  • Gingrich Collapses In Iowa, As Ron Paul Surges to the Front

    12/19/2011 10:18:39 AM PST · 69 of 162
    Bokababe to GlockThe Vote
    Ron Paul has a better chance than Romney TBH Why? Paul will peel off demo votes whereas Romney will not.

    Precisely. Obama is scared witless of Ron Paul for precisely that reason.

    Perry may be surging a bit with the anti-Romney vote moving from Newt to Perry, but these are fluid voters who've moved around a lot from Cain to Newt already. The Ron Paul voters, once decided, don't tend to move around as much as any of the others, according to the polls.

  • Public Policy Poll: Ron Paul leads in Iowa

    12/19/2011 9:29:30 AM PST · 31 of 31
    Bokababe to Cincinatus' Wife; All
    I believe a lot of Ron Paul’s support is cynical (follow the money). Young people “looking forward” to no jobs in the Obama depression...

    I think that you have it partly right, although not for the same reasons.

    I think that a huge part of Ron Paul's support is generational. The generations younger than the Baby Boomers have woken up to the reality that their own futures are being horse-traded by cynical politicians and global corporations in the Halls of Congress, and if they don't stand up an reclaim their futures, they are going to be sold into debt slavery for the rest of their lives. It may surprise you but I think that young people really were listening to the Tea Party a few years ago when it was screaming that "Our kids' futures are being mortgaged to finance the Stimulus & the Bailouts". They see both Parties complicit in this and are motivated to stop it to save their lives.

    These younger people and other voters have "followed the money" and found the guy that they think is the least corrupted and corruptible. They want someone who is going to overturn this DC corruption and give them their futures & their freedom back, someone who speaks plainly and believes what he says even if he occasionally says something stupid or stumbles. They love the guy because they trust that whatever he is, he's for real.

    As much as everyone would like to call Ron Paul followers "a cult", in many ways, he's got the opposite of a cult because he DOESN'T make it about him. He explains the history and the economics of issues from the Federal Reserve to Iran, the Constitutionality of his position, etc and how they are going to lose their liberty and their Constitution if they don't fight for it. It's just that he's the only one saying it and who has stood up for it. If the Republicans had someone twenty years younger with the same message, who was willing to educate and support the same or similar positions -- a "Ron Paul" lite -- they'd vote for him, but we don't. Instead we have mostly political re-treads running -- Gingrich, Romney -- and even Rick Perry whose resemblance to GW is not unnoticed and has the same following. Newt may rock the world of the Baby Boomers, but to anyone younger, he just looks like an insider that helped create the mess we are in now.

    By comparison, on issues of war, corporatism, civil liberties, and the DC boondoggle that is stealing money from taxpayers, Gingrich, Romney -- and even Obama -- look more alike than different to them when compared to Ron Paul.

    I know that no one wants to hear it, but the fact is that for many voters -- and especially for younger voters -- they are far more afraid of losing our freedoms and going broke than they are afraid of Islamic terrorism and terrorists. Rightly or wrongly, right now, it's banks and DC who are destroying their homes and dreams of the future, not al Qaeda. That Republican McCain & Graham championed NDAA bill last week that brought WOT to our doorsteps and allowed indefinite detention of American citizens on American soil, did not change that picture of Republicans for them

    You mention an OWS affiliation of connection -- young people, Democrats, etc. I was just looking at an article on the demographics of OWS yesterday and it surprised me. We've all got a picture in our heads of Obama-loving Democrats and "clueless college students" in our heads when it comes to OWS, but a study by Baruch College paints a different picture. One third are over 35, only 10% are full time students (wi 1/4 taking classes), most of them identify themselves as Independents & not Democrats. It was obvious that Democrats tried to win over OWS when they sent in Michael Moore and the Unions, but they didn't succeed. I will give you that most of OWS IS totally clueless and there are likely many Leftists, but they aren't that young (av age 33) or poor. They are just a bunch of pissed off people who have no idea how or why they got screwed, and have no idea how to fix it. That is NOT the core of Ron Paul's support, but because their understanding of how it all happened and what to do about it, is so muddled, it doesn't mean that they wouldn't be open to someone who explained it to them -- which Peter Schiff and some RP supporters tried to do.

    The more that the media & the GOP establishment tries to insult, humiliate and marginalize Ron Paul and Ron Paul supporters, the more that Ron Paul winds up looking like a martyr -- the heroic, downtrodden little guy trying to do the right thing, fighting the DC machine-- "Mr. Deeds Goes to Washington". Deep-down, America still loves an honest underdog, trying to do the right thing. With so many who have lost their jobs and their homes, Ron Paul is successfully getting the message across that "Ron Paul is them" -- insulted, humiliated, marginalized and get screwed over by the System -- so they open their wallets and give their time, sure that THEY are the only ones who own Ron Paul, not the establishment, not the corporations. The more that the media tells Iowans that "If you vote for Ron Paul, Iowa won't matter anymore" as a nominee predictor, the more Iowans want to vote for him because they resent being told what to do. I don't blame them. I think that all this is the precise opposite of what anyone planned -- the media and the GOP elite has always been sure that they could intimidate people into supporting their choices, but it doesn't seem to be working out that way.

    You can argue whether this faith in Ron Paul is warranted, but it is his appeal and it is why he is climbing in the polls and IMHO will likely continue to do so.

  • Public Policy Poll: Ron Paul leads in Iowa

    12/19/2011 12:12:53 AM PST · 8 of 31
    Bokababe to Berlin_Freeper
    I would think the question should be asked.

    LOL! Ask the current frontrunner if he wants to dump this race and maybe start over in another Party, sounds like a smart question to you? LOL!

  • Public Policy Poll: Ron Paul leads in Iowa

    12/19/2011 12:03:30 AM PST · 6 of 31
    Bokababe to Berlin_Freeper
    Does that mean Ron Paul has decided not to run as third party?

    No, but it just might mean that they stop asking him that question now.

  • Public Policy Poll: Ron Paul leads in Iowa

    12/19/2011 12:01:59 AM PST · 5 of 31
    Bokababe to newzjunkey

    I actually though that he might have shot himself in the foot in the last debate, but I guess not.

  • Public Policy Poll: Ron Paul leads in Iowa

    12/19/2011 12:00:16 AM PST · 3 of 31
    Bokababe to All

    And yes, I know that many — if not most — here will not be happy with this!

  • Public Policy Poll: Ron Paul leads in Iowa

    12/18/2011 11:54:22 PM PST · 1 of 31
    And Ron Paul raised over $4M from a December 16th online Money Bomb.
  • Ron Paul on Michele Bachmann: ‘She Hates Muslims’

    12/18/2011 2:36:29 PM PST · 63 of 63
    Bokababe to All
    Here is the complete Ron Paul Interview with Leno, including that statement on Bachmann, for anyone who wants to watch it.
  • Paul on Bachmann: she hates Muslims

    12/18/2011 2:35:23 PM PST · 62 of 62
    Bokababe to All
    Here is the complete Ron Paul Interview with Leno, including that statement on Bachmann, for anyone who wants to watch it.
  • Ron Paul Takes Swipes at GOP Rivals, Says Michele Bachmann ‘Hates Muslims’

    12/18/2011 2:34:55 PM PST · 55 of 61
    Bokababe to Cincinatus' Wife
    Here is the complete Ron Paul Interview with Leno, including that statement on Bachmann, for anyone who wants to watch it.
  • Angelina Jolie inflames new ethnic emotions in Bosnia with her debut as film director

    12/18/2011 11:17:41 AM PST · 29 of 42
    Bokababe to montag813; All
    Another “big lie” smear job of the Serbs.

    Yes, must keep that anti-Serb propaganda going lest someone forget their fifteen years of Serb-hating, mental programming. Anglina Jolie is also a UN Ambassador. Coincidence? I don't thinks so.

    ANYTHING to defend the Muslim hordes. Bosnia. Kosovo. Wherever. The Muslims are ALWAYS the victims. Digusting.

    Yes again. But in all honesty I don't think that it is really about "defending the Muslims" per se or even about some abject hatred for Serbs. I think that it's really about the politicians and policy wonks defending THEMSELVES, their policies and their actions. The powers that be have to keep demonizing the Serbs to make what is clearly persecution and imperialistic behavior by the EU & NATO toward the Serbs seem "justified" to cover their own butts for what they are doing. So when Serb Christians in Kosovo have no heat, their churches have been blown up and their children are starving -- those that created this situation for their own benefit, must "remind the world of the Serb rapists in Bosnia" to pretend that "the Serbs are getting what they deserve".

    While all this may feel very personal for those of us with Serb ancestry because Serbs are the target this time, I suggest that the intention isn't as personal as it feels. These bastard politicians would and will do the same to anyone in their way, anyone who is inconvenient to their agenda, anyone they want to steal from -- and anyone who shows them for the cold, bloodless, profiteering and narcissistic monsters that they really are.

    The Serbs may have been the first victims of this complete demonization, but they won't be the last.

  • Angelina Jolie inflames new ethnic emotions in Bosnia with her debut as film director

    12/17/2011 9:15:29 PM PST · 14 of 42
    Bokababe to PieterCasparzen
    "It is completely objective and it really tells the facts of what happened during the war. She succeeded in telling the story of the whole war in her film and to show... situations that detainees faced - mass executions, rapes, [being used as] human shields and all the other horrors."

    Yeah, it is so "objective" that the Bosnian Muslim government wouldn't even let her film there until she rewrote the script repeatedly until the it fit the narrative that the so-called "Bosnian (Muslim) Survivor" groups approved.

    She is stirring up a hornets nest that had just begun to settle down. What a foolish woman she is.

  • Angelina Jolie inflames new ethnic emotions in Bosnia with her debut as film director

    12/17/2011 9:03:49 PM PST · 12 of 42
    Bokababe to sickoflibs; joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ...
    Thanks, SOL!
  • The day the tea party embraces Mitt Romney is the day the tea party accepts defeat

    12/17/2011 8:30:47 PM PST · 186 of 293
    Bokababe to JediJones
    The ironic thing is the liberal media would have a much stronger card to play against Newt if they had bothered to cover Freddie/Fannie’s culpability in the housing collapse from the beginning......So in a way it’s the media’s liberal bias that has resulted in Newt having an easier time of it right now.

    In theory, I agree with you. But this SEC Civil Fraud suit was just filed yesterday. The MSM hasn't even had time to react yet or even beginning to connect the dots of a storyline between Syron & Newt. Give it a few days.

    And this is just a Civil Fraud Suit against Syron. Wait. "The BB Swami" says that Newt/Syron & Freddie Mac connection stories will start showing up soon, then there will be a criminal indictment of Syron, then it will start really drawing Newt political blood.

    My bet is that Newt could well be public relations roadkill somewhere between Iowa and New Hampshire....

    Again, I could be wrong, they could do nothing to Newt, but I wasn't wrong about Cain, from Day 1, start to finish while everyone else was attacking his accusers and acting like they weren't credible to anyone.

  • The day the tea party embraces Mitt Romney is the day the tea party accepts defeat

    12/17/2011 1:37:46 PM PST · 95 of 293
    Bokababe to Jim Robinson
    Anyone but Romney or Obama... or Paul

    I know that you are going to hate it, but in terms of support within the Party and ability to beat Obama, I predict that it is going to come down to Romney or Paul.

    I really can't imagine Santorum, Bachmann or any of the others catching fire at this late date and it's going to be too late for anyone else to jump in as Republican. ANY third Party candidate will just dilute the Republican vote & give it to Obama.

    This election is going to be a wild ride.

  • The day the tea party embraces Mitt Romney is the day the tea party accepts defeat

    12/17/2011 1:15:05 PM PST · 84 of 293
    Bokababe to Jim Robinson
    No matter how you feel about Gingrich, I'd keep another anti-Romney candidate in your back pocket, Jim.

    Given that the SEC just filed a fraud suit against Freddie Mac's Richard F. Syron on Friday, you've got to know that the MSM is going to turn over every rock laboriously to find a way to connect to Newt Gingrich's very real payments from Freddie Mac to Syron's malfeasance. Newt was taking heat for those payments when Syron wasn't identified as a crook. Imagine what's going to happen IF they prove that Syron & Newt were longtime friends and associates -- which is how Newt got the job at Freddie Mac in the first place -- and then the messy details of how Syron screwed American taxpayers starts invading every headline.

    I could be wrong but I don't see this ending well for Newt at all.

  • Ron Paul on Michele Bachmann: 'She hates Muslims. She hates them' (Video)

    12/17/2011 12:07:03 PM PST · 66 of 72
    Bokababe to 1malumprohibitum
    Bigger question after he said this is why is he helping islam in any way in any form? Who in the world was he trying to impress with this?

    Like it or not (which admittedly I don't), there 1.8 million Muslims in this country and they are Americans or on their way to being Americans. That's a fact we have to live with, because they aren't going away. So we have a few choices -- send them all back, which I'd have no problem with but you and I know is never going to happen -- treat them as a "special group" with outreach and all the BS jockeying for power and influence via CAIR -- or treat Amerian Muslims as simply "Americans" like anyone else, no special favors, no special status, no derision or exaltation to "victim" status, no special classrooms for Muslim prayer -- "You are just an ordinary American, act like it but go to jail if you commit a crime against us". The latter is what he is going for. Given we aren't going to do #1 and we've tried #2 and it hasn't worked, what other choice is there?

    Likewise, there are Muslims in the world whether we like it or not, and unless we are up for a Crusade, then we have to deal with them diplomatically, too. Again, we aren't prepared to blow them off the map, so why antagonize them with rhetoric when it does no good?

    I really don't think that he is like Carter and has ME funding, largely because he makes a point of cutting off foreign aid to "Israel's enemies too" (read "Muslim countries") Graft-ridden ME potentates would not be at all happy with that, so they wouldn't have much reason to support him if they aren't going to get anything out of it -- $$$ really is an even more powerful motivator than Israel-hatred to their leadership.

  • Video: Bachmann takes down Ron Paul on Iran (Plus a wrap-up of last night's debate)

    12/17/2011 11:38:55 AM PST · 96 of 101
    Bokababe to Las Vegas Ron; SeekAndFind
    Thanks for the Birthday wishes! Had a great evening.

    Interesting article. Maybe Israel will use this one year opportunity to deal with Iran -- and I have no problem with that. I'd say, "Go Israel! You think that Iran's nuke potential is a threat to you, you have every right to do what you think is necessary to preserve and protect your sovereign country!"

    What I'd have a problem with is us doing it or directing/using Israel to do it. Because, I think that we (the US policy wonks) are using Israel for everything and anything we want to do in the ME, and we are leaving Israel holding the bag for our policies.

    If I were Netanyahu after that debacle with Obama some months back, I'd have left the White House giving Obama & the US the three fingered salute. Israel doesn't need us -- we need Israel to "morally" justify our ME presence. And I believe that we are actually doing Israel more harm than good.

  • Ron Paul on Michele Bachmann: 'She hates Muslims. She hates them' (Video)

    12/17/2011 10:16:08 AM PST · 62 of 72
    Bokababe to 1malumprohibitum
    Couldn’t disagree with you more. I think absent WTC 93 & 9/11 most Americans could care less about islam & muslims. Before the government decided we “needed” tons of muslim refugees and immigrants, islam was barely on the radar. The truth is, the combination of the above has awoken a lot of people to the fact that there is evil in the world and it wants to kill, convert or subjugate them regardless of what they or their governments have done or not done.

    Where's the disagreement? I never said that BEFORE 9/11, we hated Muslims, or BEFORE we had such massive Muslim immigration to the US, we hated Muslims. Quite the opposite, the sympathy for "the plight of the Bosnian Muslims" and "the poor Kosovo Muslims" was overwhelming in this country, which was the reason so many got into the US in the first place, without the American public objecting. I am saying that since 9/11, we have learned to hate them -- and lying about that serves no purpose.

    How does “smearing the bottom rung candidate help him?

    I don't think that it was a smear -- I am very sure that he believes it to be true. What it did was give context to his statement to her in the debate about, "To declare war on 1.2 billion Muslims, and to say all Muslims are the same..." If he would have said to Romney or Gigrich, it would have been off-base. But he said as a response to Bachmann because he knows she hates Muslims. She lied (has repeatedly misstated in spite of repeatedly being corrected by the media) and baited him, and he fell into the trap in that debate with her. In the Leno interview, he just provided the context as to why he said what he said to her. That "bottom tier candidate" was not going to take him down. Can't blame him for that. He's in this to win.

  • Ron Paul on Michele Bachmann: 'She hates Muslims. She hates them' (Video)

    12/17/2011 9:32:29 AM PST · 55 of 72
    Bokababe to YankeeReb; All
    But if he's right about Bachmann, maybe I should take another look at her candidacy

    And there it is -- it's out of the bag and on the table -- It's not about Obama's or even Bush's "liberating, regime change or nation-building the fill-in-the-blank Muslim country of the week in the ME" or whatever screwing around with ourselves "ME strategies" we devise . It's really about hatred for Muslims --ostensibly because they hate us & proved that on 9/11.

    The truth is that most of us hate Muslims and want to wipe them all out, whether we want to admit it or not. That's why it's so easy to take us to war over there with little or no pretext. It's also why few are screaming their heads off that Obama is taking this on himself without getting Congressional approval -- because "We the People" don't want to take responsibility for starting a Crusade --and neither does Congress.

    No one has to tell me about Muslims and how they hate us, their history, etc. I know it. I'm descended from people who spent 500 years under the Ottoman Turks and were delivered back to these Islamists 15 years ago in the Balkans -- by the very NATO who is currently fighting them.

    IMHO it has nothing to with justifications, it has to do with admitting it and realizing that it influences all our political opinions.

    Ron Paul does have a way of calling "a duck, a duck", when everyone one else is dancing around "potentially evolved, flat-beaked, web-footed, feathered, reptiles." It's useful.

  • Who Wrote The Ron Paul Newsletters? Ron Paul Wrote Them – Clear Proof

    12/17/2011 8:48:59 AM PST · 22 of 26
    Bokababe to apoxonu
    With that said however, the culprit who wrote the controversial articles was a Ron Paul staffer named Eric Dondero, who was fired by Paul after the newsletter incidents. If the blogger had bothered to do his/her research with an open mind, the real story about the newsletters is out there from credible sites. This has been hashed, rehashed and triple-hashed. It's utter bull and was debunked years ago. Yet every time Paul runs for his seat or for POTUS, this crap resurfaces again and again.

    Yes, and the strangest part of all of it is that it is the fired and discredited Dondero who spends his days spreading the newsletter issue far and wide to try and take down Paul with it. Dondero hates Paul with a vengeance -- I am assuming it's precisely because he was fired and not allowed to use Ron Paul's name to spread his rambling racists rants.

  • Ron Paul, enemy of Iowa

    12/17/2011 8:27:25 AM PST · 27 of 31
    Bokababe to Smokin' Joe
    No matter where you stand on Ron Paul, I would crap on someone on the radio telling me who I could or could not vote for "if I wanted my state to be taken seriously". Are Americans little whiny children that they can't make up their own mind without this sort of junior high level peer pressure? Sheesh.

    Completely agree! The title of the article actually should be, "Can Iowa's voters be Intimidated?"

    The DC establishment is running scared to keep up this overt --and insulting--pressure on Iowans. The GOP elite are the only ones wetting themselves over Ron Paul. Hell, I'd bet that Obama's people might be giving Romney & Gingrich $$$ at this point just to keep Paul out of the process just so they can keep their Stalinesque "choices" game in place.

    Re the big picture of the race, it's only going to be days before MSM stories start handcuffing Gingrich directly & personally to Freddie Mac's fraudster Richard Syron, and start filling in the blanks. And THAT will blow Gingrich out of the water, leaving only Romney and Paul.

    So if Iowans are actually successfully intimidated into voting for Gingrich & making him #1, then Iowa really WILL be discredited.

    It's an MSM Catch 22 for Iowa either way, so they might as well vote their hearts & give the nanny politicos a three-finger salute.

  • Video: Bachmann takes down Ron Paul on Iran (Plus a wrap-up of last night's debate)

    12/16/2011 2:09:34 PM PST · 85 of 101
    Bokababe to Las Vegas Ron; All

    I promise that I will read it but not right now. Today is my birthday, so I am going to take some time off of politics for now to go enjoy myself. Later!

  • Video: Bachmann takes down Ron Paul on Iran (Plus a wrap-up of last night's debate)

    12/16/2011 2:04:19 PM PST · 84 of 101
    Bokababe to SeekAndFind
    First of all, I do not think that ANYONE of these candidates are advocating all out war with Iran. NOT AT THIS TIME. Not anyone of them.

    I think that Bachmann falsely made the Iranian nuclear threat to Israel and the US seem absolutely confirmed, real and immediate. So if one believes that how do they not act?

    Will a President Ron Paul stand still and say -— this isn’t our business because if Iran wants to go to war with Israel, it’s Israel’s problem, not ours? They have the capability to fight back, so leave them alone. We can’t spend money and lives on this foreign war that does not concern us, not when our debt is nearing $20 trillion. Ron Paul seems to be giving me the impression that that’s EXACTLY what he would do. At least he’s not giving me the confidence, not based on his rhetoric and body language that he won’t react that way.

    And that is your impression and I respect that even if I don't agree with it.

    IMHO, it's because Ron Paul is a physician. He's dealt with life and death every day of his career -- learning how to cure a problem without killing the patient -- he's a thinker. It's all been life & death to him, which is why he doesn't rile or physically posture when dealing with things like that in ways that I see others do. It's not about ego posturing or aggression. But in all honesty, if God forbid all hell broke loose in some hypothetical scenario in that auditorium last night and no one knew what was happening or what to do, I'd put my bets on following that old man to safety rather than any of the others. He's the one who'd keep his cool and risk his butt if necessary.

    The one who scares me on this issue with his body language and attitude is Newt. He reminds me of someone I'm related to -- a smart-ass, self-important sneering little dictator who'd fold when the heat is on -- who thinks he's smarter than everyone else on every subject, but he's not, he's an empty windbag. I've known guys like him -- in life and in business and the only thing frightens me about them is how easily they fool people with their supposed "intelligence" that is supposed to take the place of having any real core values whatever other than self-preservation.

    But again, those are all impressions -- yours and mine. Different, but while you can argue facts, you can't argue with people's feelings about things.

  • Video: Bachmann takes down Ron Paul on Iran (Plus a wrap-up of last night's debate)

    12/16/2011 1:30:12 PM PST · 78 of 101
    Bokababe to Las Vegas Ron
    I grew up during the Cold War, learning to hide under my desk from the time I was in kindergarten. Nukes that could destroy the world over many times -- films about nuclear radiation, life in bomb shelters after nuclear winter and nuclear created monsters were the staple of my youth. I'm old now, I don't scare that easy anymore.

    3000/300,000,000. Chances are far better I'll go of old age and so will you -- unless we get some whacko yahoo in the White House who pulls the trigger to soon.

    Life--and foreign policy --is and has always been a risk. All I can say is that I have far less confidence in continuing the foreign policy mindset that has gotten to 9/11 and to where we are now, than I do in one that changes course in another direction -- a direction that sooner or later we are going to have no choice about changing because we will be too broke to continue. So do we make that choice when we actually have some dignity and strength about making a choice? Or do we wait until we have no choice, we are weak and our enemies know our every vulnerability? I choose the former.

  • Video: Bachmann takes down Ron Paul on Iran (Plus a wrap-up of last night's debate)

    12/16/2011 12:21:51 PM PST · 68 of 101
    Bokababe to All
    Video from 2005, but still valid for what the eventualities could well be: UN Inspector Scott Ritter: Fools would Bomb Iran