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  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/17/2014 8:35:57 PM PST · 1,623 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to annalex

    Matter of fact, they say exactly what I said ...

    Luke 1:43 - “lord”, used of Messiah.
    Exodus 3:2 - OT not written in Greek.

    Mary was bearer/mother of Messiah.

  • JIMROB TO ENDORSE ROMNEY

    12/17/2014 8:33:41 AM PST · 35 of 182
    aMorePerfectUnion to Friendofgeorge

    Have you made your new FR name to use after your addiction brings you back...?

  • Michelle Obama: I Was Asked to Take Something Off a Shelf at Target

    12/17/2014 8:31:45 AM PST · 157 of 184
    aMorePerfectUnion to COUNTrecount

    “Because she didn’t see me as the first lady, she saw me as someone who could help her. “

    “I demand recognition!”

  • 2015 HOOTERS CALENDAR

    12/17/2014 8:29:35 AM PST · 17 of 21
    aMorePerfectUnion to navysealdad
  • Moroni From the Realms of Glory

    12/17/2014 8:27:09 AM PST · 19 of 54
    aMorePerfectUnion to skyman

    “Run, hide your children the Mormons are coming!!”

    I take it as a teaching opportunity to explain what a cult is and why people are drawn into one.

    When my kids were very young, the nicest kids in the neighborhood were Hare Krishna kids. I let them play together, but explained what they believed and why.

    Mormons are only different in that they wear magic underwear instead of saffron robes.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/17/2014 8:24:25 AM PST · 1,388 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to annalex

    “Mary is the Mother of God.”

    Ah, I see you insist on making a title out of your claim that God Himself never makes. Why???

    “That is not my opinion but a biblical fact.”

    It is opinion and not fact. God’s Scriptures do not say it. God never gives her the title.

    It is unsubstantiated opinion. Not just yours. Many who disregard the authority of Scripture and prefer feelings or religious teachings share that opinion.

    “Deal with it.”

    Oh, I don’t need to deal with it. Idolatry falls squarely in God’s realm of authority. Not mine. If you mean, “deal with your personal belief,” well no. Again, God’s realm of authority. All I can do is point out the truth of His Word. The results are all his.

    best.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/16/2014 8:50:39 PM PST · 1,312 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to Grateful2God

    “If she is that, why didn’t God ever give her that title? Answer. She was not mother of God.”

    Christ was God. Mary bore Messiah - why she was called favored.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/16/2014 8:04:09 PM PST · 1,291 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to annalex

    “Huh? Christ had another mother, heavenly?”

    What part of “God never called her that,” is unclear?

    He could have called her any of the false titles used today, but chose not to do it.

    Why add things to Mary that God never did?

    Let’s honor and celebrate and give her honor as God’s gracious choice.
    Let’s not try to pump her up into a demigod.

  • In Defense of the Immaculate Conception: Part 3

    12/16/2014 7:45:06 PM PST · 12 of 13
    aMorePerfectUnion to sargon

    “Why Catholics feel compelled to cling to such unnecessary and unscriptural Goddess mythology is truly inexplicable.”

    By making Mary into a demigod - higher than all humans, but not completely God - she is approachable, she can intercede because they cannot. She can bend the Son of God to her will, so it gives an inside power.

    It is a desire for true spirituality and connection to God that is absent in the teachings. The human heart craves a relationship with God. When absent, all options for spirituality are pursued. Idols, charms, amulets, demigods.

    Please note that there are many dear catholics who have come to saving faith, to His glory. May all people come to Him for eternal life.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/16/2014 7:38:41 PM PST · 1,277 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to annalex

    “He didn’t?”

    Never.

    “Jesus is not God?”

    Always.

    “Mary was not His mother?”

    Earthly mother.

    “It is not a “title”, it is what she is.”

    Than why do you make it into a title, complete with capitalization, “Mother of God?” You gave her a title.

    But of course, she isn’t. God calls her only highly favored with His grace for being chosen as bearer of Messiah.

    We needn’t make Mary into more than God did. It is sufficient. To make her into a demigod, as catholocism does is a terrible thing to do to dear Mary.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/16/2014 7:25:29 PM PST · 1,264 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to annalex

    “Well, Messiah is a Jewish term; I would not use it.”

    Then you do not understand that Christ was Jewish. Messiah was promised to the Nation of Israel. We benefit -read Romans 11. He was born of a Jewish woman in fulfillment of promises God made in Hebrew Scriptures.

    “Also “birther” is a strange verbal convolution.”

    Accurate.

    “Mary is simply Mother of God.”

    If she is that, why didn’t God ever give her that title? Answer. She was not mother of God.

    She was simply chosen to bear Messiah. That is enough. we do not need to try to make her into more than God did. She received His favor, being chosen by Him to bear Messiah.

  • In Defense of the Immaculate Conception: Part 3

    12/16/2014 7:21:32 PM PST · 10 of 13
    aMorePerfectUnion to NYer

    “You posted a rebuttal; that does not constitute an invalidation.”

    Oh, it clearly was rebutted and invalidated. It was demonstrated that the passages did not and could not mean what was claimed.

    I realize that in matters of religion, people believe for non-rational reasons. Christians are commanded to study and love God with all their mind.

    “If these threads do not interest you, then skip them. I pinged a Catholic list. “

    Open thread. Also an opportunity to encourage you to post higher quality articles worthy of discussion.

  • In Defense of the Immaculate Conception: Part 3

    12/16/2014 6:08:59 PM PST · 8 of 13
    aMorePerfectUnion to NYer

    NYer,

    Actually, on your previous threads, the points in each article were addressed and invalidated. I am noting that this occurred on your latest thread, since you are starting this from scratch.

    We have also responded fully to the faulty analysis of Greek in the Luke passage already.

    I realize this does not stop faulty articles from being posted again and again. It is the nature of the internet.

    What stands out is the lack of understanding of hermeneutics and language displayed by those who are posting these types of articles and those who then stop by to compliment the OP on what a great article it is. I can only imagine it sounds authentic to them. I can understand this on the surface, if they are uninformed, if they have never made the personal effort to learn, if they are uninformed, etc.

    For this reason, I urge you and others to take God’s admonition seriously:

    “Study to show yourself approved...” Apostle Paul
    “Love God with all your mind...” Jesus Christ

    Go deeper. These commands fall on all who claim the name of Christ. Don’t accept the shoddy stuff that circulates as truth, but is eisogesis or worse.

    Best.

  • President Trump? Says 'there's a substantial chance' he'll run & slaps Cruz for being born in Canada

    12/16/2014 3:11:53 PM PST · 43 of 70
    aMorePerfectUnion to 2ndDivisionVet

    Oh, sure. Trump is “running” again.

    ;-)

    It’s great PR.

    I have thoughts that Jeb Bush is doing the same to promote his offshore investment funds.

  • In Defense of the Immaculate Conception: Part 3

    12/16/2014 3:07:57 PM PST · 4 of 13
    aMorePerfectUnion to NYer

    “In Part 1 we saw that Mary is the woman from Genesis 3:15 and Revelation 12 who is at enmity with the devil. In Part 2, we saw that Mary is the Ark of the New Covenant.”

    Well, no we did not see it. This was some of the worst examination of the Word of God I’ve ever seen. It was an idea in search of cobbled together support.

    That a catholic would believe it indicates how little they understand Scripture.

    best

  • If you had to choose: Jeb Bush or Chris Christie as nominee? (Allahpundit relishing the trolling)

    12/16/2014 2:15:23 PM PST · 68 of 94
    aMorePerfectUnion to C19fan

    “let me note: (1) conservatives say that every time a moderate lands the nomination and every time they end up turning out for him in the general”

    Speak for yourself.
    I drew the line after McLame.
    No RINOmney for me last time.
    No RINOs in the future.

  • I rise today in support of the NYPD

    12/16/2014 10:44:20 AM PST · 37 of 63
    aMorePerfectUnion to imardmd1

    “I certainly know this, but the cause of death for Eric Garner is/was not a penalty for illicit sale of smokes. The cause of death was not the fact that the officer applied a blood-circulation (not air restriction) hold. The cause of death was the defiant resistance to arrest and transport magnified by the resister’s asthmatic and heart condition.”

    No. The cause is the rule that prohibits circumventing the high cost of cigarette taxes. Everything else flowed from there. All enforced with violence. He was such a threat selling loose cigs on the corner that they had to do whatever it takes to arrest him. /s

    “That method of hold is not life-threatening.”

    If only he had taken better care of his health, he would have fared much better while being choked.

    “If in this case you would jail the officer, I believe that you have a bad case of misplaced compassion.”

    No. I have no compassion for the one who resisted arrest, nor for the poorly trained and violent officer, nor the taxing authority. I would jail the officer without compassion for killing during a minor arrest issue. I would also jail the idiots who passed this law. I would fine Mr. Garner.

    “The person who needed to be jailed was the hustler for his continuous history of disobeying the law.”

    No. He didn’t need to be jailed. He could have been fined on a civil basis. The last thing we need is more people in jail for selling cigarettes or other minor offenses. The tax payers do not need to pay for his upkeep. He was taking care of that on his own by selling loose ciggies. One of the only opportunities for income in the Obama economy.

    “If you believe in this exaggeration of the conduct of police against law-breakers, it sounds to me like belief in a fairy tale. “

    Sorry, I’ve met great officers like that. Other nations do not visit violence nor incarcerate for minor offenses. Nor do they justify escalating police action to death for minor offenses.

    And it is an offense to me “

    Your offense may be important to you, but not interesting to others. Why waste your time being offended? You’re alive. He’s dead. You’re offended??

  • [Supreme] Court: Traffic stop OK despite mistake of law (Roberts v. Fourth Amendment 8-1)

    12/16/2014 8:36:42 AM PST · 44 of 94
    aMorePerfectUnion to Olog-hai

    Never give consent to a warrant less search.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/16/2014 8:31:09 AM PST · 1,031 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to annalex

    “Did she give birth to Jesus? Not a complicated question.”

    Ah, i see what you’re doing. You’re changing her name to Birther of Messiah. Clever.

  • Pope Francis: "Disinformation" Is Media's "Most Insidious" Sin

    12/16/2014 5:49:18 AM PST · 8 of 13
    aMorePerfectUnion to Biggirl

    He needs to expand this list to 7... If he wants it posted regularly to FR.

  • I rise today in support of the NYPD

    12/16/2014 5:44:24 AM PST · 28 of 63
    aMorePerfectUnion to imardmd1

    “You forgot the “/sarc” tag.”

    No sarcasm. All laws are enforced at the threat of physical violence. Even tax laws.

    In this case NYC doesn’t want a small time loosie hustler cutting into their revenue. I’d jail this officer.

    In the country I grew up in - America - police were respected public safety officers, who were respectful and well disciplined to use minimum force. Today, in the United States, they are arrogant, quick to use force, and disrespectful to citizens.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/15/2014 9:11:08 PM PST · 871 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to annalex

    “Precisely. That means she is the God-giver or if you prefer God-bearer. No one is making her a “demi-god”, by the way.”

    Mary did not give Messiah. God gave Messiah. Mary bore Messiah.

    She is certainly fashioned as a demigod by Catholicism. It is sad.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/15/2014 8:22:57 PM PST · 851 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to annalex

    “Mary is the God-giver “

    Another name God never uses of Mary.

    Mary did not give us God. She was chosen by God to bear Messiah. That is all. It is enough. We don’t need to make her into a demigod.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/15/2014 8:20:50 PM PST · 850 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to vox_freedom

    “of course you wouldn’t believe it.”

    If God’s Scripture taught it, I’d believe it. It doesn’t. Totally bogus, pagan teaching to make Mary into a demigod.

    http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius09/p9ineff.htm";

    If it was taught in Scripture, it wouldn’t take a couple thousand words to try to justify it.

    That papal encyclical and about $3.00 will get you a strong cup of Starbucks coffee.

  • Well I did it tonight....

    12/15/2014 7:52:22 PM PST · 48 of 51
    aMorePerfectUnion to US Navy Vet

    Welcome to freedom!

    The next step after that is to deregister...

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/15/2014 7:46:59 PM PST · 834 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to terycarl

    “the book of life, as you describe it has certain requirements in order to remain in it.”

    “Sealed.” The Spirit did it. I believe it.
    “I will lose none.” Christ said it. I believe it.
    “That you may KNOW you have eternal life.” God said it. I believe it.

    “Yes, Jesus died to atone for our sins, but He certainly expects us to clean up our acts.”

    The life of Christ is evident in those who have believing faith.

  • I rise today in support of the NYPD

    12/15/2014 7:10:13 PM PST · 19 of 63
    aMorePerfectUnion to Two Kids' Dad

    “Was the official police policy to kill anyone caught selling loosies? I think not. The penalty is the penalty as adjudicated through the system. Garner’s death was not the intent. It happened as a result of the escalation of the situation. I won’t lay blame for who caused the escalation.”

    All tax policy is carried out at the point of a sword or barrel of a gun. If you do not believe this, just keep refusing.

    The police have many ways to subdue grossly overweight people without killing them. They didn’t.

    Garner was violently subdued for selling ciggies. His death resulted. Police should be trained to deescalate situations, but seem to do the reverse so often these days.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/15/2014 7:05:14 PM PST · 810 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to vox_freedom

    “She was born without original sin.”

    Not in the Bible.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/15/2014 7:04:25 PM PST · 809 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to LurkingSince'98

    “could you show us point us to any printed or unprinted bibles prior to 1500 AD that were not the Latin Vulgate or a local translation of same.”

    Not sure why you are even asking me this.

    Please elaborate FRiend. You must have something in mind that brings this up here.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/15/2014 7:01:42 PM PST · 805 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to LurkingSince'98; Elsie

    “Bet not one prot ever went to him private mail and said ‘slow down boy!”

    You apparently don’t know just how incorrigible Elsie is!

    Even his goats butt him - and it has no effect!

  • I rise today in support of the NYPD

    12/15/2014 6:23:52 PM PST · 11 of 63
    aMorePerfectUnion to combat_boots

    The problem is escalation and criminalizing so very many offenses in our country.
    We now incarcerate more people than Russia and China - combined.

    I don’t even know how many swat teams are out there risking lives every day for small things.

  • I rise today in support of the NYPD

    12/15/2014 6:16:03 PM PST · 6 of 63
    aMorePerfectUnion to Altura Ct.

    “A crackdown on the sale of illegal, untaxed cigarettes - called “loosies” since they are sold in singles rather than in packs - had been ordered just days before Garner’s arrest by the highest ranking black police officer in the NYPD, Philip Banks. “

    The penalty for tax collection non-compliance is death.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/15/2014 6:06:20 PM PST · 754 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to editor-surveyor

    “The reformers hardly had the power to set straight more than a thousand years of error generated by Constantine’s cult, but Yeshua will do it “in the twinkling of an eye” at the last trump!”

    Let’s bow our heads and enjoy this moment of agreement :-)

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/15/2014 6:05:14 PM PST · 752 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to terycarl

    “but what about Christ saying that I am with you from NOW UNTIL THE END OF TIME..I hate broken promises, don’t you??”

    Christ is still here with every true believer. No broken promises.

    “all people would have access to the Bible.”

    Not only that, but they read it.

    “The FACT that the Catholic church had saved the bible from oblivion doesn’t even occur to you. “

    Now how can you mind read like that?

    “Catholics wrote, compiled, edited, copied (by hand) the Bible that you have today.”

    God inspired 2/3 of His Word before a single Christian was on earth. Your boast is empty.

    “Without the Catholic Church, you’d have to run down to your local Synagogue to read a copy of the Old Testament and that’s all that would be available.”

    I have a stronger view of God’s sovereignty than you, apparently.

    “about 11,600 years after the founding and preservation of Christianity by the Catholics,”

    I don’t know what calendar you are using terycarl, but it must be metric.

    “along came the revolutionaries ....They said, we decided that this particular thing doesn’t appeal to us so we’d better get rid of it, we don’t like that book in the bible so let’s eliminate it...Jesus didn’t really mean it when He Said “THIS IS MY BODY”...so lets just assume He was kidding.”

    Thankfully.

    “you are part of 30,000 or so “denominations” all of which think that they are right....They aren’t, The Catholic Church is correct, always has been, and always will be. Christ said so...believe Him!”

    Of course you believe this. You are catholic. What choice do you have? Hundreds of millions of us just smile when you say stuff like this. We think your claims are full of horse manure. :-)

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/15/2014 10:36:14 AM PST · 458 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to Servant of the Cross

    “At the founding of Protestantism, all of the Marian devotion that this thread rejects, were fully embraced by your Founders.”

    That the Reformers recovered the Gospel of Grace is more than one could hope for. To think they would set straight more than a thousand years of error in a brief lifetime is unrealistic.

    They did work to make Scripture open and available to the common man and set off a reexamination to see what God revealed. In this sense, God used them to correct and recover.

    No one claims they were perfect. No human is. For His own reasons, God uses flaw-ridden humans and an occasional donkey or fish.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/15/2014 9:32:54 AM PST · 441 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to Mike Darancette

    “she is blessed with all that is good and merciful in mankind.”

    Never in Scripture does God say this. Ever. Totally made up. Totally makes Mary into an idol.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/15/2014 8:37:37 AM PST · 418 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to CynicalBear
    "The Greek word plērēs is NOT used in any reference to Mary " I'm afraid that when you are talking to anyone who has repeated "Hail Mary, Full of Grace..." hundreds or thousands of times, the truth of the passage will not be convincing. The Greek words and lack of that word invalidates their personal experience and the choice of their church to "make it a bead" on the rosary - in fact, 10 times more prevalent a bead than the prayer of our Lord. What are they going to believe, their experience or the Scriptures?? Good luck!
  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/15/2014 8:34:13 AM PST · 416 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to LurkingSince'98

    “Im sure you believe in the Elf on the Shelf too.”

    I’ve actually seen it in stores.

    I also saw the Mensch on a Bench on Shark Tank last night.

    These things are real!

  • Mormons hate polygamy thiiiiiiiiis much

    12/15/2014 8:25:23 AM PST · 4 of 93
    aMorePerfectUnion to Morgana

    “86% of Mormons say that polygamy is morally wrong?* “

    And yet their cult teaches that there is still eternal polygamy. That’s a lot of celestial sex!

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/15/2014 8:22:06 AM PST · 408 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to LurkingSince'98

    “as a Catholic I have been interested in what goes on in a protestant service I have been to other Lutheran services same stuff different day “

    I suggest you look outside the Luthern church instead of generalizing. I always hear on FR how protestants have “30,000 denominations.” Visiting just one and generalizing is extremely thin gruel to draw your conclusion from. Nor did you ever address the Biblical basis of fellowship.

    “so your protestations aside fellowship is for protestants cause they don’t have the real deal - our Catholic Mass.”

    1. No protest. Just saying it isn’t my experience in 5 states and another country, in a number of different protestant churches. If you are pleased with generalizing from a sample size of one denomination on a couple visits, OK.

    2. Of course, you believe the “Catholic Mass” is the real deal. You are Catholic. Hundreds of millions of Christians read the Scriptures and reach a very different conclusion.

    “just doing for 2000 years what He commanded us to do.”

    If you are willing to never look under the rug to see what assumptions are swept under there to hide, you could reach that conclusion. I looked. It isn’t persuasive.

    I wish you the best.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/15/2014 7:12:24 AM PST · 346 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to LurkingSince'98

    “I was surprised at how many things that Lutherans

    You would be incorrect to generalize from this one experience. In more than 30 years, I’ve never had that experience.

    “Point of Justim Martyr’s quote is that they were doing in 155AD exactly what we do today.”

    I got your point. It has many assumptions implicit in that are unsupported. I find arguments without support (opinions) unconvincing.

    best

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/15/2014 6:33:38 AM PST · 317 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to LurkingSince'98

    “JUST CONTINUOUSLY DOING WHAT HE COMMANDED US TO DO “

    Well, of course you believe that. You are catholic. We also believe we are doing what He commanded - “Do this in memory of Me until I return.”

    As to gathering for fellowship, I showed you that God recorded that the earliest church did it. I sure wouldn’t let a discussion of proper grammer carry more weight than what God recorded for Christians. Clearly they were doing more than the Lord’s Supper.

    Best

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/14/2014 8:35:36 PM PST · 253 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to LurkingSince'98

    Really?

    Why would they genuflect?

    We kneel. That’s Biblical.

    Holding hands you object to for some reason?

    Fellowship. Something Christians have done since at least the earliest days of the church - “42 They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer.”

    Best.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/14/2014 7:07:02 PM PST · 202 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to LurkingSince'98; daniel1212

    “I didn’t know you prots were as stiff necked a people as the Israelites.”

    I’m amazed you could read daniel1212’s long, detailed post and not respond to a single fact, argument or thought, but went right to an ad hominem attack.

  • Another Obstacle For Jeb Bush.Lacking Of An Alluring Charisma.

    12/14/2014 7:04:55 PM PST · 9 of 31
    aMorePerfectUnion to Cruz_West_Paul2016

    I read the other day that whoever is leading in the polls a year from the primary is selected as the winner by Republicans. This person is the next person “in line.”

    This year, there is not one of those. RINOmney won the primary and lost the general.

    Democrats don’t go with who is logically next. They have to “fall in love” with their candidate and be inspired.

    This year that looks like Warren.

    Martin Armstrong documents the rise of the Cycle of Independents currently (ex. UKIP).

    I believe this election will be a crap shoot as one or more independents enter the race and do well - not well enough to win automatically, but well enough to really mess with the whole thing.

    Sarah fits this bill.
    Cruz fits this bill.
    Paul fits this bill.

    As a broader picture...

    Does it really matter which wing of the Central Oligarchy wins the Presidency? We get the same thing, as witnessed by the Omnibus disaster this week.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/14/2014 6:49:53 PM PST · 200 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to Arthur McGowan
    "Since it is not in Scripture, it CAN’T be true."

    This type of false logic has been examined and refuted many times. Here is one example. More at source that will help you further.

    OBJECTION: The doctrine of Sola Scriptura contradicts itself. For if the doctrine is true, then it ought itself to be stated in Holy Scripture. But in fact it is not.

    REPLY: We are offered an argument of the following form:

    (1) Sola Scriptura = “All true propositions are stated in Holy Scripture.”
    (2) Sola Scriptura is not stated in Holy Scripture.
    (3) Therefore, Sola Scriptura is not a true proposition.

    But in fact, the argument should be of the form:

    (1) Sola Scriptura = “All truths necessary to salvation are stated in Holy Scripture.”
    (2) Sola Scriptura is not stated in Holy Scripture.
    (3) Therefore, Sola Scriptura is not a truth necessary to salvation.

    http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/djw/lutherantheology.kiefersolascriptura.html

    Best to you

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/14/2014 4:33:31 PM PST · 145 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to warsaw44

    “I was asked a question and I answered it. To not do so is rude.”

    Makes sense and I commend you on your desire to be mannered.

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/14/2014 3:59:18 PM PST · 124 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to warsaw44

    “I am sick and tired of the anti-Catholic postings on this web site”

    And I tire of the opposite, the constant beating of the drum for catholicism and constant antiChristian threads posted by catholics...

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/14/2014 3:58:15 PM PST · 123 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to warsaw44

    “We do not care what you believe.”

    Yet it appears you care enough to persist on this thread...

  • Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

    12/14/2014 3:49:32 PM PST · 117 of 1,662
    aMorePerfectUnion to ealgeone

    Veneration of dear Mary - and the accompanying false teachings of perpetual virginity, immaculate conception, assumption, etc. - makes her into a demigod.

    She deserves better.
    She is to be honored, not made an idol.
    She is most blessed by God as bearer of Messiah.
    She is most blessed among women - not over women.