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  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/29/2014 1:28:16 PM PDT · 65 of 65
    miss marmelstein to jmacusa

    Hee, hee!

    American Indians are Americans. I wish they would join the rest of us and get out of those hellhole reservations. Of course some of them have, which is a good thing.

    I remember when they worked in building the highrises of NYC - it was said their balance was so excellent they could walk on beams and rafters like ballet dancers.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/29/2014 1:14:15 PM PDT · 64 of 65
    jmacusa to miss marmelstein

    Hello dear, nice to see you here. I’m with you. I’m a Native American. I was born here.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/29/2014 1:11:16 PM PDT · 63 of 65
    jmacusa to kearnyirish2

    No Irish, I didn’t mean to say you did. I’m going by the sort standard narrative that has always presented the Indian as the sort of ‘’happy children of the forest’’ image. Bullsh!t to that. They were a bunch of warmongering bloody savages and the whole concept of all of this as ‘’their land’’ is bullsh!t too.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/29/2014 5:53:32 AM PDT · 62 of 65
    miss marmelstein to jmacusa

    Hello! I always think of you as Jim - I guess because of the “jm.” The Indians migrated from somewhere in China - I think Mongolia. I’ve seen pictures of the ones who stayed behind - living in teepees. It is human nature to explore the world. The left needs to get over it and its crocodile tears over Indians. I refuse to call them by their pc name, Native Americans.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 7:56:03 PM PDT · 61 of 65
    kearnyirish2 to miss marmelstein

    I was just at Fort Ticonderoga; at one point the Indians played a critical role in the wars for control of the northeast. Hardly bystanders, and certainly not non-violent types...

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 7:54:49 PM PDT · 60 of 65
    kearnyirish2 to jmacusa

    I didn’t do anything to them; it was “their land” by the fact that they were living on it, then forced off. Sort of you like if someone came onto your land and pushed you off (with extreme prejudice if necessary).

    I have no illusions about what life was like in pre-Columbian America, and hardly presented it as “happy”.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 5:27:00 PM PDT · 59 of 65
    Kickass Conservative to 2ndDivisionVet

    Did I miss the MEGA SUPER DOOPER BARF ALERT?

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 5:18:14 PM PDT · 58 of 65
    jmacusa to kearnyirish2

    Dude, who in the hell said it was ‘’their’’ land? They migrated here from somewhere else too and they were hardly ‘’the happy children of the forest’’, ok? I’m sick of hearing what ‘’we’’ did to the Indians. Point of fact I didn’t do squat to them and in the long European emigration didn’t do them too bad at that.. The horse, firearms, iron and steel implements and casino gambling.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 2:47:09 PM PDT · 57 of 65
    miss marmelstein to kearnyirish2

    I’ve been to Deerfield and seen the burial mound there. Quite sad - beautiful country.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 2:29:52 PM PDT · 56 of 65
    kearnyirish2 to jmacusa

    There certainly is no justification for evicting them from it, even if they were just “borrowing it” from Mother Earth and Father Moon...

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 2:27:06 PM PDT · 55 of 65
    kearnyirish2 to miss marmelstein

    The Deerfield Massacre in the early 1600s showed they had fight in them; they just didn’t have the numbers. They played an active role before and throughout the Revolution (I’ve seen the site of the massacre at Ellenville NY where they joined with Tories); afterwards it was just a slow push westward for them...

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 11:24:26 AM PDT · 54 of 65
    driftless2 to LS
    "revised downward"

    I won't disagree.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 11:08:18 AM PDT · 53 of 65
    miss marmelstein to LS

    Thanks I just looked up your book and plan to buy it.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 9:45:52 AM PDT · 52 of 65
    LS to driftless2

    I understand, but I’m telling you that even the numbers of the groups you mention have been steadily revised downward. My point is that TOTAL numbers have been moved downward decade by decade.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 9:15:50 AM PDT · 51 of 65
    driftless2 to LS
    Mexico and the Aztecs had cities with stone buildings, infrastructure, cultivation of large amounts of land, etc. Those are the hallmarks of large populations. Nothing like that existed north of the Rio Grande. Some historians, whose names I can't recall, for obvious political reasons try to dramatically increase the numbers north of the Rio Grande.

    I had a sociology prof. in college who was a hysterical (he thought the Bush I admin was trying to murder the Indians) advocate of immense Indian populations in the area of the present U.S. His "specialty" was/is N. American Indians, and he occasionally gets his articles printed in the local rag. He never presented any proof, and I've never seen any proof that Indian populations were any more than 2-3 million. No big cities, no huge stationary populations, no remains of millions of people.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 8:26:14 AM PDT · 50 of 65
    LS to driftless2

    Unfortunately, if you look at the sidebar in my book, most demographic historians and demographers don’ t make that distinction. Could be one that I missed. Most of them in their “North American” estimates include modern day Mexico.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 7:50:57 AM PDT · 49 of 65
    driftless2 to LS

    Er.....I said north of the Rio grande.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 7:27:20 AM PDT · 48 of 65
    NCLaw441 to 2ndDivisionVet

    The German spoke of “decades” of responsibility for the Holocaust. We have had many decades since the end of the Civil War, and many decades since the Civil Rights Acts. I’d say enough decades have passed for everyone to stand on his own two feet. Racism persists, but not all of us are responsible for it. Go after those who actually practice racism.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 7:25:25 AM PDT · 47 of 65
    LS to Caipirabob

    It’s standard leftist drivel. We cover this in our sidebar “Did Columbus Kill All the Indians” in “Patriot’s History of the United States” and my book “48 Liberal Lies” which has a chapter on this.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 7:21:10 AM PDT · 46 of 65
    LS to driftless2

    Er, that’s 15-40m existing, total, in N and Central America

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 7:20:19 AM PDT · 45 of 65
    GeronL to miss marmelstein

    Long before Columbus landed, okay he didn’t get to the mainland... the native population was reduced by war and disease amongst themselves. Their population had been reduced from - maybe that many - to much much much less. They may have gone from a more advanced state to one of pretty primitive in a matter of 2 or 3 generations.

    THEN the “white man” came....

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 7:20:06 AM PDT · 44 of 65
    LS to driftless2

    See our sidebar “Did Columbus Kill All the Indians” in our “Patriot’s History of the United States.” The number in the US/Mexico is now put at 15-40m (numbers vary wildly).

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 7:16:59 AM PDT · 43 of 65
    LS to miss marmelstein

    See our numbers, from the latest sources, in “A Patriot’s History of the United States.” This is tripe.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 6:54:08 AM PDT · 42 of 65
    greeneyes to jmacusa

    Good point. In fact, the Indians thought they were pulling a fast one by trading the land for blankets and beads, etc.

    They thought they were getting something for nothing since everyone knew that you didn’t own the land.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 6:49:34 AM PDT · 41 of 65
    greeneyes to greeneyes
    pressent = present
  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 6:48:23 AM PDT · 40 of 65
    greeneyes to 2ndDivisionVet
    Begin our healing process? What BS. My husband is a member of the Choctaw Tribe, and he has no hatred for the “white” man and would find this guys lament stupid.

    I don't feel any guilt either. My ancestors were Scott's Irish/German, and immigrated well before WW1, but weren't even in this country during the time of the Indian “genocide”. I'd say that we are already healed.

    I'll just mention that the Government totally disrupted the life in the Appalachian area supposedly for the benefit of the citizens living in less than perfect conditions, but actually because developers wanted their land and trees. By and large white folks IIRC. And don't forget that the Irish were facing a lot of discrimination.

    A student once said to my husband, you are just punishing me cause I'm black. My husband told him, "I don't want to hear your complaints about white men and prejudice. The white man killed and scalped my ancestors. Get over it." Learn the past, but don't live there. What I say is: Live in the pressent, and do right. This will anger some people and astonish the rest. Can't remember who said some of that.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 6:46:33 AM PDT · 39 of 65
    jmacusa to kearnyirish2

    “Theft of land’’? It always surprises me that a people who proudly proclaimed to have no concept of ownership, ‘’owning’’ the land, water and sky, as it were, suddenly start acting as if they’ve been the victims of massive fraud and the land and water they never owned is/was ‘’theirs’’. What a crock.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 6:10:36 AM PDT · 38 of 65
    bk1000 to 2ndDivisionVet

    Can we get a barf alert on this article?

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 6:03:20 AM PDT · 37 of 65
    miss marmelstein to Morpheus2009

    I don’t think it was atrocious. I always believed that Indians gave as good as they got. They were a typically indigenous people - brutal and backwards. Unlike a close friend of mine with a degree in American Studies - I do not believe they influenced the Constitution. (Actually, I think she secretly believes they wrote it.)

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 5:27:14 AM PDT · 36 of 65
    Caipirabob to miss marmelstein; LS
    I think our own resident historian, LS might be able to shed some light on this.

    LS - Any thoughts on who is primarily responsible for this bit of propaganda?

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 5:22:57 AM PDT · 35 of 65
    Morpheus2009 to miss marmelstein

    I do call it cooked, I also pointed out that this is far from anything close to a “Holocaust” event. 400 years is a long time for a real extermination campaign, if you read my post, I poibted out it’s rediculous compared to the one percent of that time frame spent really focusing on killing every last Jew by the virtue of the Final Solution 1941-1945. It’s far from a deliberate extermination campaign. Unjust and attrocious, but a far different magnitude.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 5:12:16 AM PDT · 34 of 65
    miss marmelstein to Morpheus2009

    The estimate is obviously cooked - you’d have to be totally naïve not to believe that. I’m bloody well sick of Indians and their gullible running dogs crying about their less than stellar history - when they were viciously murdering each other, burning up the landscape and generally acting a lot less like a holocaust victim.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 5:05:28 AM PDT · 33 of 65
    miss marmelstein to Covenantor

    Oh, that craaaaaaaaaazy shark hoax! If only the imaginations of the permanently aggrieved were put to GOOD use.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 5:00:16 AM PDT · 32 of 65
    SMARTY to 2ndDivisionVet
    “Mr. Holzschuh said that during his school years, he and his fellow German citizens were repeatedly exposed to the horrors of the Holocaust and taught about the responsibility Germany bears for allowing it to happen.”

    If he wants to examine the idiocy of mindless idolatry and idiotic tolerance, all he has to do is look at the support for “O” as a Presidential candidate, as President and also as leader of the free world who daily and hourly breaks promises to allies, ignores lawlessness and himself is the primary PRACTIONER of political lawlessness!!!

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 4:53:50 AM PDT · 31 of 65
    King Moonracer to Brad from Tennessee

    Lol. Freepers are the best and brightest!

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 4:49:47 AM PDT · 30 of 65
    TADSLOS to Caipirabob

    Another fake but accurate meme. It’s the seriousness of the charge. It’s just another Rev Wright diatribe, another Barry Sotero dream to fulfill.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 4:45:03 AM PDT · 29 of 65
    driftless2 to Arm_Bears
    "where are corpora delicti"

    They exist only in the fevered imaginations of leftist historians who constructed the myth of the progressive Indians living in huge cities. Of course, in reality the huge cities didn't exist, and there are no remains of over 100,000,000 Indians.

    These leftist historians are kin to the afro-centrist "historians" who claim ancient Egypt was a black civilization from which the Greeks stole everything they knew.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 4:44:24 AM PDT · 28 of 65
    elcid1970 to 2ndDivisionVet

    Comparing America to the Third Reich is a tired old leftist tool. Just like this jerk.

    Oh, and if you reject the notion of `global warning’, then beware, infidel, fatwa is about to be pronounced on you.

    Guess I’ll amble over to Whole Foods wearing my Vietnam vet cap & see if I can elicit angry stares from greying ponytails of either sex. This Kos creep sounds like he’s one of them.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 4:42:10 AM PDT · 27 of 65
    Covenantor to miss marmelstein

    This sounds like Rep-D Major Owens claim that 400,000,000 IIRC African slaves died on the trip over and that to this day sharks swam the slave trade routes looking for chum.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 4:39:52 AM PDT · 26 of 65
    Prospero to 2ndDivisionVet
    The "collective guilt" meme doesn't fly with this American.

    The difference between guilty feelings and true moral guilt is lost on too many, but these are mutually exclusive concepts, as feelings of guilt and the state of being legally or morally guilty before law rarely automatically go together.

    Because the Left has a blind spot when it comes to moral guilt altogether, while at the same time it's practitioners trade almost exclusively in shame, the clear distinction is a challenge to their entire worldview.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 4:39:24 AM PDT · 25 of 65
    driftless2 to Flag_This
    There were many Indian wars where one tribe ruthlessly massacred many members of the other tribe. And there were Indian tribes, like the Sioux, who allied with the fed gov. to help subdue/slaughter enemies of the Sioux like the Sac.

    The Sioux were more than happy to help the fed. gov. kill hundreds of Sac including women and children at the Battle Of Bad Axe in 1833 just down river from where I live. Many Indian tribes were peaceful, and many Indian tribes were fierce warriors....just like all the other peoples of the earth.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 4:35:59 AM PDT · 24 of 65
    Morpheus2009 to driftless2

    Different tribes were at war with each other.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 4:35:58 AM PDT · 23 of 65
    2ndDivisionVet to Altura Ct.
    I can't presume to speak for someone so obviously intellectually superior to myself. Perhaps if you e-mail the author, he will (condescendingly) explain it in detail.
  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 4:35:27 AM PDT · 22 of 65
    TADSLOS to miss marmelstein

    Just another self loathing leftist asshat projecting his own self hate on the rest of us.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 4:33:12 AM PDT · 21 of 65
    Morpheus2009 to miss marmelstein

    This was an estimate of what happened over the course of more than 400 years. Not say 4 or 5 years of final solution. However, as attrocious as it was, it’s not the same as what the nazis did. The Nazis’ mission wasn’t putting Jews on the reservation, it was to kill every last one.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 4:32:12 AM PDT · 20 of 65
    Altura Ct. to 2ndDivisionVet

    BTW - who is “Our” in your title?

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 4:31:45 AM PDT · 19 of 65
    Altura Ct. to 2ndDivisionVet
    "Although we are not guilty nor liable for what happened during the Nazi era, we believe we bear a lot of responsibility for what our country did,”

    Blah, blah, blah. Why don't you just kill yourself? I am not guilty of anything that you suggest we should be.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 4:29:12 AM PDT · 18 of 65
    miss marmelstein to Caipirabob

    I’ve known the blanket hoax for years. But this gigantic population hoax is new to me - do you know who started it?

    I think we need to write to Chuck Baby - the author and ask him.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 4:25:42 AM PDT · 17 of 65
    Caipirabob to miss marmelstein
    115,000,000 million Indians killed? If they had that many, they would have wiped us out.

    This has been proven, beyond a doubt, to be an outrageous falsehood.

    It is an invention, pretty much a wet dream of liberals, who's only additional wish is that they were actually there so they could pass out "euthanasia" plague blankets to women and small children.

  • Our Heritage of Hate

    08/28/2014 4:24:53 AM PDT · 16 of 65
    miss marmelstein to kearnyirish2
    It's obviously a cooked number from a writer hoping against hope to reach low information voters and Europeans who have guilty consciences from their own atrocities and are trying to push that guilt onto us.

    The Indians were not Jews lined up for slaughter. Many of the tribes were warrior by nature. I've visited many colonial houses in Massachusetts with their “safe houses.”