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The essence of blogging has been the one-man band, the big mouth in the basement, the pajama-clad pontificator taking on the media establishment. Now Arianna Huffington, who knows something about seizing the spotlight, wants to change that. Today she launches a 300-person blog, the Huffington Post, featuring lots of her famous showbiz friends, that could redefine the nature of online commentary, or at least bring her another 15 minutes.

Actress: 9/11 our fault By MAGGIE HABERMAN DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER Maggie Gyllenhaal Actress Maggie Gyllenhaal, star of a new flick about the aftermath of 9/11, believes the United States "is responsible in some way" for the devastating terror attacks. Gyllenhaal, 27, made the comments at the Tribeca Film Festival, where her new movie "The Great New Wonderful" - which has a plot centered on the destruction of the World Trade Center - premiered Friday. "I think what's good about the movie is that it deals with 9/11 in such a subtle, open way that I think it allows it...

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REPORT OF THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW PANEL DICK THORNBURGH AND LOUIS D. BOCCARDI ON THE SEPTEMBER 8, 2004 60 MINUTES WEDNESDAY SEGMENT “FOR THE RECORD” CONCERNING PRESIDENT BUSH’S TEXAS AIR NATIONAL GUARD SERVICE JANUARY 5, 2005 KIRKPATRICK & LOCKHART NICHOLSON GRAHAM LLP Michael J. Missal, Esq. Lawrence Coe Lanpher, Esq. 1800 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20036 (202) 778-9000 Counsel to the Independent Review Panel i TABLE OF CONTENTS I. INTRODUCTION..............................................................................................................1 II. EXECUTIVE SUMMARY ...............................................................................................4 A. 60 Minutes Wednesday Background..............................................................................6 B. The Pursuit of a Story on President Bush’s TexANG Service ......................................7 C. Obtaining Documents ....................................................................................................8 D. The Production of...

LONDON (Reuters) - Veteran pop star Sir Cliff Richard, flamboyant singer Boy George and other British musicians plan to release a song to raise money for victims of the devastating Asian tsunami, the tune's composer said. Radio DJ Mike Read wrote the song "Grief Never Grows Old" before the Dec. 26 disaster, but said he was now getting stars on board to release it within weeks. "We've tracked down quite a few people, who have said,'Yes I would love to do a few lines on it,"' Read told Sky News television, adding that Robin Gibb of the Bee Gees and...

The long weekend before Election Day in my home town of Cleveland was like the rushed, nonsensical climax of a dream. Diehard leftists, down-and-out bohemians, and famous performers flooded in from across the nation, as people from Bruce Springsteen to an extra from One Life To Live (I gave him a lift after he’d finished a long day of canvassing) put themselves on the line to keep their idea of the American Dream alive. Then, on Election Night, just when we all started to suffer our mass rude awakening, De La Soul showed up. These three seminal forerunners of today’s...

HOLLYWOOD has-been Chevy Chase lashed out at President Bush at a liberal love-in Tuesday night, calling the commander-in-chief a "dumb f - - k." Chase was master of ceremonies at People for the American Way's Defender of Democracy awards gala at the Kennedy Center in Washington, D.C. But the organization got more than it bargained for when Chase went off the rails in a potty-mouthed rant, the Washington Post reports. "This guy in office is an uneducated, real schmuck," Chase fumed, "and we still couldn't beat him with a bore like [John] Kerry." He then joked about Cabinet changes,...

Comedian George Carlin, 67, known for his shockingly obscene monologues got himself in trouble in Las Vegas recently – but not because of his filthy mouth. In the his last performance at the MGM Grand after four years before 700 paying customers, he reportedly said: "People who go to Las Vegas, you've got to question their f-----g intellect – traveling hundreds and thousands of miles to essentially give your money to a large corporation is kind of f-----g moronic. That's why what I'm always getting here is these kind of f-----g people with very limited intellects." But that's not the...

BARBRA STREISAND is sick of advertisments for anti-impotence drugs, deeming them "morally questionnable". The singer and actress claims Hollywood films hardly ever shape our moral attitudes, unlike commercials for CIALIS, which improves a man's ability to function for up to 36 hours. She moans, "I resent this thing about Hollywood and moral values. What movies are out now that have questionable moral values? "You know what I think has questionable moral values? The Cialis commercials."

Sarah Jessica Parker has been ordered to cover up after her Lux billboard advert offended Israel’s Orthodox Jews. Within 24 hours of the billboard being displayed, a senior rabbi contacted the Israel office of consumer magnates Unilever to threaten a boycott of the company's entire range of products, not just Lux. With this potentially devastating boycott in mind, Unilever decided to appease the rabbis by drawing up new posters that conceal the 39-year-old’s exposed flesh.

What the Republicans did, cleverly, was to establish effective "memes" in the minds of the public and the pundits... Bush became the "winner" of a dead heat, in the midst of an incomplete recount, when a premature victory was declared on her own unnecessary deadline by his Florida campaign co-chairwoman, who also held the crucial post of secretary of state... [I]t was clearly a shameless ploy to slam the door before the election escaped. A meme was born. The other effective GOP meme was the mantra, "we counted, and counted again, and then a third time." These words were chanted...

Woodstock performer Joe McDonald (Country Joe and The Fish) leads crowd in singing 1960s antiwar songs Thin, clean-shaven, balding and slightly stooped, the 62-year-old McDonald says he's still a socialist but confesses he's now part of the middle class. Organizers had tried to get people out. Groups involved in the protest included the Edmonton Coalition Against War and Racism, Marxist organizations, non-Muslim supporters of the Palestinian cause, members of the Unitarian Church and the occasional Vietnam war draft evader and army deserter. McDonald's sound system was handled by Mike Tulley, an American army draftee who arrived in Canada in April...

May one gloat if one was right? Indulge me. Last December, in a review of retiring Georgia Senator Zell Miller's book about the Democratic Party, A National Party No More, I concluded that "the Republicans will not only canter into power in 2004, the Democratic party may find itself on the verge of a total meltdown." I knew Miller got it right when he said it was all about values. The dichotomy between the parties' values is nowhere better illustrated than in their respective assessments of celebrity entertainers. John Kerry over-estimated their influence and embraced them, while George W. Bush...

Cancellation To all those planning to attend the Saturday night Jon Bon Jovi, Bruce Springsteen, Barbara Streisand, Dixie Chicks, and Dave Matthews Concert hosted by Michael Moore on the White House lawn are hereby notified that it has been cancelled. God Bless America!

By Jim Emerson Editor, RogerEbert.com October 14, 2004Who's the, uh, biggest villain in "Team America"? Kim Jong Il or Hollywood celebrities?"You should learn to keep your opinions OUT of your reviews!" Every critic I know has received at least one letter like that from an indignant reader. Of course, it's an absurd proposition; critics are paid to express their opinions, and the good ones (who exercise what is known across all disciplines as "critical thinking") are also able to cite examples and employ sound reasoning to build an argument, showing you how and why they reached their verdict. Well, since...

It is so great to win, and win big. I am going to gloat and be a sore winner, because of the abuse I've taken for my positions from so many around me. That being said.... It is now being said that Brad Pitt and Jennifer Anniston are buying a home near Gwyneth Paltrow in London because they don't want to live here anymore. I just won a few hundred dollars in wagers from my very left wing co-workers. I am willing right now...to donate every bit of it to a fund that will buy plane tickets to any liberal...

NEW YORK - If President Bush (news - web sites) wins re-election on Tuesday, you'll see Patti LaBelle with reddened eyes on Wednesday. The R&B diva, an ardent supporter of Democratic nominee John Kerry (news - web sites), said she "can't even think about it" happening. "I'm going to cry a lot, but I know that's not going to happen, because too many people have come out of the sleep that they've been in," LaBelle told The Associated Press last week. She acknowledges that she was in a sleep herself, as far as voting was concerned, for years. "I've not...

Helen Hunt just got off the phone with Omaha radio hosts Todd and Tyler pushing for Kerry. Looks like I won't be watching my copy of Twister any time soon.

While watching the "100 Scariest Movies" on Bravo, there was an interesting moment. John Landis was commenting on "The Exorcist" and said something like "It took a completely unbelievable situation and made it seem realistic, that the devil would take over a young girl and the Catholic Church would be the good protecting us from evil, when they weren't molesting young boys..." First, what an assinine thing to say, but typical for a Hollywood idiot. Now, I know demonic possession is not believed in by most people these days (myself included), but there are some who do believe in it...

Win or lose, Sen. John F. Kerry [related, bio] has pulled off something people have tried to do for more than a decade: reuniting the surviving members of Nirvana. Dave Grohl and Krist Novoselic, who made rock history in Seattle with the late Kurt Cobain, will appear today at a Kerry rally at the Stardust Casino in Las Vegas. Grohl will perform with his band, Foo Fighters. Novoselic, an activist who authored ``Of Grunge and Government,'' will speak. Also expected are Kerry's daughter, Alexandra, stepson, Chris Heinz, and Tom DeLonge of punk band Blink 182.

SEASON PREMIERE Wednesday, October 20, 9:30PM ET/PT CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE stars Emmy Award nominee John Goodman in a comedy about a family man who, by default, is the go-to guy for his eccentric extended clan. John (Goodman) and Kate Barnett (Jean Smart) are still very much in love after 20 years of marriage and are looking forward to the next 20. Only one thing interrupts their bliss: John's family. His sex-obsessed father, Art (Ed Asner), and his loopy mother, Marge (Olympia Dukakis), have a penchant for coming over unannounced, ready to stir the pot. The owner of a security...

Remember Michael Kranish, the Boston Globe reporter who is one of the Kerry campaign’s prime boosters in the media, and whose name mysteriously disappeared from the official Kerry campaign book sometime during the publication process? Well, look who’s starring in a new film about John Kerry’s Vietnam service: Going Upriver: The Long War of John Kerry. From IMDB: Credited cast: Ben Affleck .... Narrator (voice) John Kerry .... Himself Michael Kranish .... Himself http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407263/

Hosts of ABC's "The View" Gang Up on Giuliani for Backing Bush Joy Behar ridiculed Giuliani for claiming that the first thing he said after the 9/11 attacks was "thank God" George W. Bush "was our President" and she insisted that "of course" Al Gore would have been just as "tough" on terrorism. Former CBS News correspondent Meredith Vieira, who participated Sunday in an anti-Bush march, seemed similarly ignorant, scolding Giuliani: "The implication is that if you disagree, I think, with the administration that somehow you are on the side of the terrorists. " Giuliani shot back: "That isn't who...

The heated argument consumed nearly eight minutes, so space permits only some limited excerpts as provided by the MRC's Jessica Anderson who caught the August 31 exchange: Joy Behar: "Did you really say that, 'Thank God he was our President'? That's the first thing you said? You didn't say 'Oh, expletive,' or something?" Rudy Giuliani: "No, no, that wasn't the first thing I said. That's one of the things that I said on September 11th to my police commissioner. It really came out because that was just a few months after that disputed election, and so I had called the...

George Bush-bashing celebs have joined forces with Moveon.org on a new series of campaign commercials. The celeb-studded spots feature the voices of Matt Damon, Scarlett Johansson, Martin Sheen, Rob Reiner and Ed Asner and star Rebecca Romijn-Stamos, Woody Harrelson, Illeana Douglas and Margaret Cho. Janeane Garafalo hosted Tuesday night's kick-off at Hammerstein Ballroom, billed as "10 Weeks: Don't Get Mad, Get Even!" Howard Dean, Kevin Bacon, Edie Falco, "School of Rock" director Richard Linklater and Al Franken fired up the faithful. Musical guests included The Roots, Natalie Merchant, Moby and Perry Farrell, who joined forces for Jane's Addiction's "Idiots Rule,"...

"Our goal is to change the direction of the government and change the current administration come November." -- Bruce Springsteen, writing a guest editorial in Rolling Stone magazine. Attention, all Bush-loving conservatives! We need to talk about your taste in music. Do you have anything by any of the following artists: Bruce Springsteen, Sheryl Crow, the Dixie Chicks, Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds, Usher, Pearl Jam, R.E.M., Five for Fighting, Bright Eyes, My Morning Jacket, Ben Harper and the Innocent Criminals, James Taylor, Jackson Browne, Bonnie Raitt, Jurassic 5, Keb' Mo' and/or Death Cab for Cutie. If so, I regret to inform...

A summer night of love for protest songs of the Sixties They came from the 1960s. Most were in their sixties. But the crowd listening to Crosby, Stills & Nash in Bethlehem, PA did cross generations, and even the youngsters were singing the tunes that gave a bittersweet taste to those years seemingly long ago. The band, however, brought them to the stage at MusikFest's RiverPlace Tuesday night. With a vengeance. They opened with "Carry On," and on a sour note to boot. Oh lordy, if this was the sound they were going to offer all night long, this was...

The Best Quotes From The Left Since 9/11 by John Hawkins Yesterday, after hearing that 126 of 208 house Democrats voted against protecting American lives by removing Saddam Hussein from power, I was inspired to put together a list of the best quotes from the left since 9/11. Read and enjoy... Are You Wearing Your Tinfoil Hat? "Who knew the World Trade Center was gonna get bombed; Who told 4000 Israeli workers at the Twin Towers To stay home that day Why did Sharon stay away? Who? Who? Who" -- From a now notorious poem by New Jersey poet laureate...

(CNSNews.com) - A government watchdog group says the finances of the "Vote for Change" rock-music tour deserve the same scrutiny as the finances for the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth ad campaign. The controversial Swift Boat ad features Vietnam Veterans who accuse Sen. John F. Kerry of lying about his war record. The Democratic Party says none of the veterans appearing in the ad served on a Swift Boat with Kerry. Democrats call the ad completely false -- a smear campaign. The Vote for Change tour - featuring Bruce Springsteen and other anti-Bush pop music celebrities - is billed...

Bruce Springsteen, REM, and more tour for political change. SEATTLE, WA.  Friday 8.6.2004  /netmusiccountdown.com/ -- Is political change in the air for the USA? Artists like Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band, REM, John Mellencamp, Babyface, John Fogerty, The Dave Matthews Band, Ben Harper, Pearl Jam and the Dixie Chicks hope so. These musicians, along with James Taylor, Bonnie Raitt, Jurassic 5, Keb' Mo', Bright Eyes, Death Cab for Cutie and My Morning Jacket, have formed a coalition of musicians who make up the Vote For Change Tour. Presented by MoveOn PAC, the tour launches October 1, one month before the...

With a fervor that hasn't been witnessed since musicians in the late '60s united to protest President Richard M. Nixon and America's involvement in the Vietnam War, some of the biggest names in popular music are coming together for an unprecedented series of fund-raising concerts with the goal of unseating President Bush on Nov. 2. Superstars from several diverse genres in rock and country -- among them Bruce Springsteen, Dave Matthews, R.E.M., Pearl Jam and the Dixie Chicks -- are among the more than 20 bands taking part in the Vote for Change tour, announced Wednesday with a publicity blitz...

New York Times August 5, 2004 OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR Chords for Change By BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN nation's artists and musicians have a particular place in its social and political life. Over the years I've tried to think long and hard about what it means to be American: about the distinctive identity and position we have in the world, and how that position is best carried. I've tried to write songs that speak to our pride and criticize our failures. These questions are at the heart of this election: who we are, what we stand for, why we fight. Personally, for the last...

The culture war just got a little louder Concert tour aimed at defeating Bush Music stars target swing states with a series of shows featuring more than 20 acts By Cary Darling Star-Telegram Pop Culture Critic The culture war just got a little louder. With Wednesday's announcement that music superstars such as Bruce Springsteen, the Dave Matthews Band, the Dixie Chicks, R.E.M., John Fogerty and Jurassic 5 are launching a series of October concerts specifically designed to defeat President Bush in November, the entertainment industry is pumping up the volume on an already high-pitched political season. "I feel this is...

At the Democratic National Convention, Janeane Garofalo -- comedienne, talk show host and liberal pundit -- called me a "house Negro" and a "fascist." Well! For four days, the Democratic Party put on its quadrennial scare-old-people-and-minorities party. Democrats, of course, rely on the 90-plus percent monolithic black vote. Thus, a black "non-liberal" poses a direct threat to the party's national prospects. When Garofalo agreed to a sit-down, she clearly knew nothing about me. When I defended the administration on the War on Terror, a frustrated Garofalo started to get up and leave, muttering, "This show sucks." After I called her...

WARSAW, Poland - "Fahrenheit 9/11" opened Friday in Poland - a U.S. ally in Iraq - with some critics comparing director Michael Moore's style to totalitarian propaganda. But politicians who opposed Poland's decision to send troops to Iraq urged the public to see the film. Moore's movie portrays President Bush as inept and the war in Iraq as an illegitimate campaign waged to further business interests. A critic for Gazeta Wyborcza, Poland's largest daily newspaper, condemned the movie as a "foul pamphlet" too biased to be considered a documentary and said it reminded him of methods used by Nazi propaganda...

Poles Say 'Fahrenheit 9/11' Is Propaganda Fri Jul 23, 3:44 PM ET By VANESSA GERA, Associated Press Writer WARSAW, Poland - "Fahrenheit 9/11" opened Friday in Poland — a U.S. ally in Iraq (news - web sites) — with some critics comparing director Michael Moore's style to totalitarian propaganda. But politicians who opposed Poland's decision to send troops to Iraq urged the public to see the film. Moore's movie portrays President Bush (news - web sites) as inept and the war in Iraq as an illegitimate campaign waged to further business interests. A critic for Gazeta Wyborcza, Poland's largest daily...

Fahrenheit 911 was apparently shown last week on Fidel Castro's Cuban state run TV!According to Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences rules, a motion picture feature is disqualified for documentary Oscar if it airs on TV or over the Internet within nine months of its bigscreen run..

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A recent broadcast on Cuban television of Michael Moore's film "Fahrenheit 9/11" has raised questions about the Oscar eligibility of one of America's most talked-about and critically acclaimed movies of the year. Under Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (news - web sites) rules, films are disqualified from competing in the Oscar race for best documentary if shown on television or on the Internet within nine months of their theatrical release. However, an unauthorized or pirated display of a film would not render the movie ineligible, academy spokesman John Pavlik said on Tuesday. "If somebody...

HOLLYWOOD VS. AMERICA1st Linda Ronstadt, now Don Henley booed'We used to be able to have civil debate in this country. Not anymore' Posted: August 3, 20041:00 a.m. Eastern © 2004 WorldNetDaily.com Don Henley Singer Don Henley was booed at a concert in Orange County, Calif., after mentioning his friendship with Linda Ronstadt, who gained national attention after alienating much of her audience with a song dedication to leftist filmmaker Michael Moore. At the Pacific Amphitheatre in Costa Mesa, Calif., on Thursday Henley made several political comments between songs, according to a report in the Orange County Register. One comment began: "Given what...

DAVID CROSBY AND GRAHAM NASH ANNOUNCE THEIR CANDIDACY FOR JOINT PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE VENERABLE PAIR ARE RUNNING ON THE PARTY PARTY TICKET Shelburne, VT, July 21, 2004: David Crosby and Graham Nash have thrown their respective hats into the ring for the Presidency of the United States, entering an already crowded and diverse field with their bid on the Party Party ticket. What distinguishes the Crosby/Nash candidacy is that theirs is a campaign for a “Joint Presidency,” where the two will share responsibilities on an alternate day basis. When asked who would be named their...

Thanks to negotiations today (July 21) between the Recording Artists Coalition (RAC) and the prospective new owners of Las Vegas's Alladin Theater, expect to see RAC member Linda Ronstadt back at the venue this fall -- with filmmaker Michael Moore on backup vocals. The singer was the recipient of heavy-handed treatment Saturday (July 17) when she dedicated the Eagles' "Desperado" (co-written by RAC co-founder Don Henley) to Moore, the director of the anti-President Bush documentary, "Fahrenheit 9/11." News reports said some in the audience booed, stormed out of the theater and tore down posters. Reports also said Ronstadt was escorted...

LAS VEGAS - One of the partners buying the Aladdin hotel-casino said singer Linda Ronstadt (news) would be welcomed back to the property after the performer was kicked out over the weekend by current management for praising filmmaker Michael Moore. Planet Hollywood CEO Robert Earl of Orlando, Fla., said he'd like to take Moore up on the filmmaker's offer to join Ronstadt on Aladdin's stage and sing "America the Beautiful" when Earl's management team takes control of the bankrupt casino, as early as September. "We respect artists' creativity and support their rights to express themselves," Earl said in a statement...

The real deal Linda Ronstadt's current tour – 'a history lesson of music' – reflects her dedication to authenticity, and quality By George Varga July 15, 2004 Other singers may have a greater passion for music than Linda Ronstadt. But few have a greater passion for more types of music, or the willingness to perform them, even at the risk of falling on her face. "My career has befuddled other people, and it's befuddled me," admitted Ronstadt, 58, who finds her fans are polarized by her nightly on-stage salute to "Fahrenheit 9/11" filmmaker Michael Moore. "I've been dedicating a song...

Aladdin President Bill Timmins ordered security guards to escort pop diva Linda Ronstadt off the property following a concert Saturday night during which she expressed support for controversial documentary filmmaker Michael Moore. Timmins, who was among the almost 5,000 fans in the audience at the Aladdin Theatre for the Performing Arts, had Ronstadt escorted to her tour bus and her belongings from her hotel room sent to her. Timmins also sent word to Ronstadt that she was no longer welcome at the property for future performances, according Aladdin spokeswoman Tyri Squyres. How much weight that carries is debatable, since the...

Gere attacks Bush over sex education 18/07/2004 - 12:51:59 Hollywood heart-throb Richard Gere launched a scathing attack on American President George W Bush's attitude to sex education in Bangkok on Tuesday. The passionate actor was speaking at the 15th International Aids conference in the Thai capital, after visiting India the previous week with his younger brother David to highlight the Aids epidemic. Gere took the opportunity to attack Bush's unrealistic approach to sex education after the president proposed in the 2005 budget that $270m (?216.8m) should be put into funding programs which dissuade teenagers from having sex. During his time...

LIVINGSTON - With a brisk walk, actress Susan Sarandon made an unannounced trip Wednesday to Texas to visit her pen pal — a convicted murderer on death row. She had corresponded with the inmate, James Vernon Allridge III, for several years after buying some of the detailed drawings of flowers and animals he creates with colored pencils. Prison officials said she had only recently been put on his visitation list, and she would not tip her hand as to why she had come to see Allridge, who is scheduled for execution Aug. 26. "I'm trying to be as low-profile as...

• At least one Northern Virginia moviegoer walked out in a huff after watching just a half-hour of "Fahrenheit," and she wants our readers to know about it. Loyal Republican Lenora Tomalin, 81, called us to report that she left her relatives in their seats at the Regal theater in Sterling and headed for the lobby during the scene when Moore, in a voiceover, suggests thoughts President Bush might have had in a Florida classroom the morning of Sept. 11. "I was enraged . . . I thought it was very sophomoric," she says. "There was laughter and I would...

July 9, 2004 -- Whoopi Goldberg delivered an X-rated rant full of sexual innuendoes against President Bush last night at a Radio City gala that raised $7.5 million for the newly minted Democratic ticket of John Kerry and John Edwards. Waving a bottle of wine, she fired off a stream of vulgar sexual wordplays on Bush's name in a riff about female genitalia, and boasted that she'd refused to let Team Kerry clear her material. "I Xeroxed my behind and I folded it up in an envelope and I sent it back with a big kiss mark on because we're...

It would be simply impossible to gather from all the gushing press coverage last week about Corin Redgrave's Lear at Stratford what a truly terrifying influence he had in British theatrical circles for 20 years or more. As the most powerful member of the Trotskyite Workers Revolutionary Party within the actors union, Equity, he helped create political cells throughout the acting profession. Central to this was the nature of the WRP: it was less a conventional political movement than a fully-fledged cult, which monopolised the time, energy and financial resources of its members. At one level, the WRP was plain...

Streisand's Election Version of 'People' Fri Jun 25, 4:02 AM ET By The Associated Press Barbra Streisand sang a special 2004 election version of her hit "People" at a Thursday night fund-raising concert for Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry (news - web sites). Here are the lyrics: People I mean G-O-People Who'd believe there's such people in the world Bush sees a Lotta Condoleeza They're dividing the planet's oil According to Richard "Poil" And they're all just trainees Of Cheney's Now Rumsfeld We must get rid of Rumsfeld He's the spookiest person in the world As for Powell He's neither...