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New Memories Erase Old By Generating New Neurons
Unisci ^ | 7 Dec 01 | staff

Posted on 12/07/2001 8:29:14 AM PST by RightWhale

New Memories Erase Old By Generating New Neurons

Scientists have found that existing memories may be erased in our brain by a process that involves the generation of new neurons. This clearance might be important to “make room” for the acquisition of new memories.

The results are reported in today's issue of Neuron.

The research team, led by Joe Tsien of the Department of Molecular Biology at Princeton University, generated mice that lack a protein called presenilin-1 throughout much of the brain. Mutations in presenilin-1 are responsible for the majority of cases of early-onset Alzheimer's disease, but the function of the protein in the context of the normal CNS is poorly understood.

These mice were viable and grew normally, but the researchers observed that after spending time in a rich, stimulating environment filled with diversions and mouse toys, the brains of presenilin-1 mutant mice generated fewer new neurons than the brains of normal mice.

Tsien and colleagues initially thought that this reduced neurogenesis might cause learning deficits, but, after months of testing, none could be detected. The researchers did observe, however, that time spent in an enriched environment generally enhanced the retention of recent learning.

To their surprise, they also found that some newly formed memories were harder to erase in the mice lacking presenilin-1 than in the control mice.

This suggested to the authors that generation of new neurons is important for the memory-clearance process.

Memory retention ordinarily seems like a good thing. However, as Tsien points out, “adding new neurons to existing networks may potentially disrupt, rather than improve, the function of these networks”.

These findings raise a possibility that chronic abnormalities in this clearance process may contribute to the devastating memory disorder associated with Alzheimer's disease.

In addition, they raise a potential cautionary note about the therapeutic use of neural stem cell transplantation for neurodegenerative disorders.


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Some scientists assume the axiom that memories are stored in the brain, but such memory storage is not necessarily the case.

Hypothesis: Memory is a process of synthesis with constant reality check via analysis of environment.

Memories are not stored, and cannot be transferred to machines.

Leap to conclusion: This is not the path to immortality.

1 posted on 12/07/2001 8:29:14 AM PST by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
The results are reported in today's issue of Neuron.

As opposed to the liberal-leaning medical journal Moron.

2 posted on 12/07/2001 8:35:23 AM PST by Timesink
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To: RightWhale
interesting
3 posted on 12/07/2001 8:47:39 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: RightWhale
Bad logic on your part. Memory has to be stored in some way, simply because it's there. I remember scenes from my childhood - that doesn't come solely as a "reality check" with my current environment. Whether you can download human memory into a computer, it's already been done - from a criminal, about 10GB worth. As whether you can process and reconstruct this information with a computer is another matter. You'd probably need to know how the brain works before you can figure out how to process the information in it.
4 posted on 12/07/2001 8:57:54 AM PST by billybudd
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This explains a heck of alot about why democrats lie to their diaries I suppose. They are off killing so many of their brain cells all the time and regenerating new ones they eventually all lose their minds. Senator Byrd, anyone?
5 posted on 12/07/2001 9:35:54 AM PST by The Bolt
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To: RightWhale
So I guess this proves Homer Simpson was right when he said "Every time I learn something new, It pushes something old out"
6 posted on 12/07/2001 9:44:07 AM PST by Not now, Not ever!
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To: billybudd
Bad logic on your part

That memory is stored in the brain at all is merely a hypothesis. A hypothesis that has produced no useful results.


Must memory be stored in the brain?

First, memory, dreams and creativity are easily explained by a single phenomenon, they are all the same.

Second, why in the brain?

Third, equating common sense with logic generates tiny monsters.

7 posted on 12/07/2001 10:54:08 AM PST by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
Ignorance must be bliss.
8 posted on 12/07/2001 11:02:25 AM PST by billybudd
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Seriously, where do you think memory is stored, the liver? Memory is definitely stored in the brain because it's been physically proven. Whenever you think of a particular thing, a particular set of neurons light up. And this happens consistently when you think of that particular thing. There have been thousands of scientific studies that have conclusively proven this. Ignore science at your own risk.
9 posted on 12/07/2001 11:04:52 AM PST by billybudd
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Ignorance must be bliss

That's twice.

10 posted on 12/07/2001 11:12:24 AM PST by RightWhale
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This sort of gives new meaning to that old "Farside" comic, with the kid asking to be excused from class because "his brain is full."
11 posted on 12/07/2001 11:16:42 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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Huh?
12 posted on 12/07/2001 11:17:05 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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First, memory, dreams and creativity are easily explained by a single phenomenon, they are all the same.

No need to be so mysterious, man. Tell us about this phenomenon.

13 posted on 12/07/2001 11:20:03 AM PST by Junior
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To: RightWhale; TigerLikesRooster; Skynet; Victoria Delsoul; Fraulein; Physicist; monkey; Askel5...
BUMP for later read.
14 posted on 12/07/2001 11:24:21 AM PST by Cool Guy
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I dunno...I'm gonna have to kill off a whole lot of neurons before the lyrics to the "Brady Bunch" get flushed...
15 posted on 12/07/2001 11:24:43 AM PST by Billthedrill
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Whether you can download human memory into a computer, it's already been done - from a criminal.

I don't think so. What are you refering to?

16 posted on 12/07/2001 11:25:10 AM PST by mlo
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Seriously, where do you think memory is stored, the liver?
This thread brings to mind (no pun intended) a little-known fact about brain cells. It seems a few years ago some scientists discovered that our stomachs actually contain certain kinds of brain cells. Off hand I don't specifically remember what kinds of brain cells were located there, but it makes one stop and wonder about the old "butterflies-in-the-stomach" and whether or not maybe our brain is trying to tell us something we simply aren't hearing.
17 posted on 12/07/2001 11:27:02 AM PST by callisto
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To: RightWhale
Scientists have found that existing memories may be erased in our brain by a process that involves the generation of new neurons.

Lets start with question 1. How are neurons generated? Cell division? Thanks.

If it is cell division, then the connections and properties of the old cell which has information has to be destroyed. That brings it down to, the things you remeber for a long time, either are contained in neurons that do not reproduce or they are present in more than on neuron, and one of them do not reproduce.

18 posted on 12/07/2001 11:27:35 AM PST by Cool Guy
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To: Cyber Liberty
the kid asking to be excused from class because "his brain is full."

When that happens it is nap time. Some day they may grade students by how many interactive synaptic connections they have in their brain rather than specific ability to regenerate a page of Maclaurin series equivalents. Sleep encourages synaptic linkage growth and thereby improves the memory function. Does that make any sense? Speaking from within my hypothesis.

19 posted on 12/07/2001 11:28:31 AM PST by RightWhale
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Memories are not stored, and cannot be transferred to machines.

I forgot what this article was about.

I'm not wearing any pants.

20 posted on 12/07/2001 11:31:16 AM PST by Lazamataz
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