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CDC tests show no bioengineering of anthrax; spores similar to ones that infect animals
Oregonian ^ | 10/25/01

Posted on 10/25/2001 1:38:00 PM PDT by SAMWolf

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Genetic testing shows the bacteria in the anthrax-by-mail attacks have not been bioengineered and are quite similar to natural strains that sicken animals, federal health officials said Thursday.

"These strains cannot be distinguished from other anthrax isolates that are known to have caused disease in barnyard animals" in the United States and Europe, said Dr. Julie Gerberding of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

While CDC says the anthrax so far is susceptible to penicillin, preliminary tests suggest it also may contain an early signal of developing penicillin resistance. Thus CDC said Thursday that patients with inhaled anthrax should not be treated with penicillin alone.

But from an investigative viewpoint, that discovery "is entirely consistent with the natural biology of the organism," Gerberding said. In nature, anthrax strains often show that chemical signal.

"We have absolutely no evidence to suggest these isolates have been genetically altered or engineered in any way," she added. "We're quite relieved that their susceptibility profile looks like what we would expect from a naturally occurring strain."

So far, the CDC hasn't finished genetic tests on anthrax spores recovered from the Washington postal facility where two workers have died and two others become infected with inhaled anthrax. Those tests are important to help determine whether the anthrax came from the same batch as the bacteria in letters mailed to Florida, New York and a Senate office.

Then there's the nation's other antibiotic resistance worry -- that some 10,000 people now are taking Cipro while CDC figures out whether they were exposed to anthrax and thus are at risk. All of that Cipro use, infectious disease specialists worry, could cause everyday bacteria to mutate so that Cipro won't be useful against other infections.

The CDC won't be able to detect if that's happening right away, Gerberding said, "but I would be surprised if it was a zero impact."


TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anthrax; cdc
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1 posted on 10/25/2001 1:38:01 PM PDT by SAMWolf
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To: SAMWolf
Ok, so which is it??? I keep hearing that it is advanced anthrax, it isn't, it is, it isn't....They need to come clean on this...
2 posted on 10/25/2001 1:40:36 PM PDT by Maringa
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To: Maringa
Me thinks that the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.
3 posted on 10/25/2001 1:42:59 PM PDT by oc-flyfish
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To: Maringa
Ok, so which is it??? I keep hearing that it is advanced anthrax, it isn't, it is, it isn't....They need to come cean on this...

Seriously... at least get their lies together...
4 posted on 10/25/2001 1:43:08 PM PDT by Nouge
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To: SAMWolf
This article seems to contradict one that was posted last night from the Washington Post. What on earth is Ridge doing in his new post? Someone needs to come out authoritatively on all of the anthrax news.
5 posted on 10/25/2001 1:43:30 PM PDT by independentmind
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To: Maringa
It's a red herring. The key, course, is not whether the anthrax is bio-engineered, but how it is processed for delivery. The stuff in Daschle's office had to be processed to a very fine degree, which points to the involvement of a government, which in turn means a nuclear attack on Iraq's weapons facilities is due about now. Since the government finds that prospect unpalatable (or is, at least, not yet ready to embark on such a course), it is throwing up every red herring it can find to change the subject.
6 posted on 10/25/2001 1:44:23 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: SAMWolf
Will they all start talking on the same page, please! First its non-weaponized, then it is, now it isn't...gang that can't shoot straight.
7 posted on 10/25/2001 1:44:30 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: Maringa
Ok, so which is it??? I keep hearing that it is advanced anthrax, it isn't, it is, it isn't..

Hell if I know. I'm as confused as the rest of you!

8 posted on 10/25/2001 1:45:36 PM PDT by SAMWolf
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To: SAMWolf
Flip a coin...
9 posted on 10/25/2001 1:47:35 PM PDT by error99
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To: SAMWolf
I want some freakingn answers now. Is it bio-engineered or not!
10 posted on 10/25/2001 1:47:58 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: Maringa
It's just a question of which way one wants to spin it. On the one hand, the anthrax has not been genetically altered so as to make it resistant to antibiotics. On the other hand, the anthrax was processed in such a way as to change its electro-static qualities so as to make it more likely to become airborne. It is obviously quite lethal when inhaled.
11 posted on 10/25/2001 1:48:09 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: SAMWolf
The problem is that you guys expect them to even tell you the truth.
12 posted on 10/25/2001 1:48:41 PM PDT by smolensk
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To: SAMWolf
SOMEBODY really needs to get their act together........every 2 mins it's something new....
14 posted on 10/25/2001 1:50:12 PM PDT by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: smolensk
The problem is that you guys expect them to even tell you the truth.

Equally as big a problem seems to be accurate reportage from the media. Even if the story is straight from CDC, it's often not reported correctly. How many times have you heard anthrax referred to as a virus?

15 posted on 10/25/2001 1:51:16 PM PDT by Twins613
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Yes. Earlier today Ridge said, concerning the issue of weponized anthrax, 'it was utilized as a weapon'. That should be the end of the story. Weaponized but beatable with Cipro. Just thank the Pharmiceutical companies for developing this product. Without, we would be dropping like flies.
16 posted on 10/25/2001 1:51:48 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: SAMWolf
There is a great deal of crap out there about antibiotics "causing" bacteria to mutate.

First, antibiotics don't cause mutations.

Second, resistant strains develop in contageous diseases, which anthrax is not.

In order for a mutated form to spread it must first survive and then infect another host. This could be done rather quickly in the laboratory, but not easily in the wild.

18 posted on 10/25/2001 1:52:42 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Mr. Jeeves
It's a red herring. The key, course, is not whether the anthrax is bio-engineered, but how it is processed for delivery. The stuff in Daschle's office had to be processed to a very fine degree, which points to the involvement of a government, which in turn means a nuclear attack on Iraq's weapons facilities is due about now. Since the government finds that prospect unpalatable (or is, at least, not yet ready to embark on such a course), it is throwing up every red herring it can find to change the subject.

VERY well put. I do believe you're probably right.

19 posted on 10/25/2001 1:52:51 PM PDT by Jefferson Adams
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To: smolensk
"The problem is that you guys expect them to even tell you the truth."

And what is the reason for deception?

20 posted on 10/25/2001 1:53:14 PM PDT by verity
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