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Could irradiation kill anthrax? [yes!]
abcnews ^ | 10/23/2001 | Jeff Carpenter

Posted on 10/23/2001 6:44:41 PM PDT by Aquinasfan

Suggestions on how to decontaminate mail range from microwaving to household irons. In a laboratory setting, bacteria and bacterial spores are routinely killed with bleach, or by exposure to extremely high heat in what is called an autoclave.

But many experts agree that there is very little, if anything, you can do to kill bacteria short of destroying your mail.

"Steam irons are not going to get you where you need to be," said Dr. John Clements of Tulane University in New Orleans.

Can Irradiation Kill Anthrax?

There is a technology that certain companies believe will kill anthrax — irradiation.

Titan Corp. suggests its irradiation technology, currently used to kill harmful bacteria in foods such as meats, eggs and fresh produce, could be used to kill anthrax. The item in question is bombarded with electrons that kill bacteria. When asked if use against anthrax was feasible, Clements said, "In theory, you could because radiation kills [anthrax] spores."

The company estimates that it would cost approximately one penny per letter to decontaminate mail. It added that irradiation works on everything except electronics, which could be damaged by the process.

Another company, Aramsco, is offering a decontamination service using gamma rays. It is sending out mail from clients to be irradiated by an anonymous company that normally uses the process on food.

"Anthrax is very easy to kill with irradiation," said Aramsco President Dave Naylor.

How It Works

In Titan's irradiation technology, ordinary electricity is used to create a beam of electrons. These electrons are accelerated and "shot" at the item to be sterilized. The beam that is generated is capable of penetrating the target up to a depth of 1 foot.

If the object being decontaminated is larger, X-rays can be used. The same electron beam is directed at a metal target, which generates X-rays. The X-rays are then capable of penetrating up to several feet.

Both the electron beam and the X-rays have the effect of breaking up the DNA of the bacteria almost instantly. This causes immediate death in most cases, and those bacteria that survive are incapable of multiplying.

"Whether it's a package of medical equipment, or a package of hamburger, or whether it's an envelope with anthrax in it, it kills the bacteria inside," said Titan CEO Gene Ray. The material sent out by Aramsco is exposed to a cobalt source that generates gamma rays. Cobalt is a radioactive substance that emits gamma rays, which are high-energy waves that are often used to treat cancer, and sterilize food. A More Familiar Form of Irradiation Might Work Lambda Technologies in North Carolina believes that microwaves can kill the anthrax bacteria. The process would involve exposing mail to microwaves in large industrial sized machines.

These machines are not like your microwave at home. These machines use what is known as variable frequency microwave technology. This allows them to tune the machine to obtain the most efficient killing. The technology also eliminates arching, or sparks, that form when metal is put in conventional microwave ovens.

According to Howard Reisner, an immunologist at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, it has been reported by several sources that microwaves can kill bacteria and bacterial spores.

Is it Safe?

Many people are concerned about safety when they hear the term irradiation. One fear is that the food itself will become radioactive. According to the Food and Drug Administration, "Irradiation does not make foods radioactive, just as an airport luggage scanner does not make luggage radioactive."

Another concern that people express is that irradiation will mutate bacteria, and create even more harmful forms. "There is no evidence that mutants that may be produced by irradiation are any more virulent than the parent microorganism; in fact, the opposite is more likely to be the case," according to the FDA.


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I heard on the radio today that the Post Office has ordered $200 million worth of irradiation equipment. I don't know if that was for my area (Massachusetts) or nation-wide.
1 posted on 10/23/2001 6:44:41 PM PDT by Aquinasfan
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2 posted on 10/23/2001 6:48:05 PM PDT by callisto
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To: callisto
the bell just went off on the mississippi crop dusting test run. the argument against this being effective is because the harmful material tends to get dispersed in the atmosphere and is rendered harmlessly diluted. Not so with a closed in structure such as the SUPERDOME. With its multitude of air intake points one pass over the dome and bunches of this stuff would conceivably end up being drawn inside the structure. The result would be nothing less than catastrophic. surely the FBI is making the casual connection. A cropdusting plane has a very limited flight path radius. Mississippi to NO is within that range I am certain. It's a stone's throw.
3 posted on 10/23/2001 6:51:08 PM PDT by kingh99
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To: Aquinasfan
ut many experts agree that there is very little, if anything, you can do to kill bacteria short of destroying your mail.

This is all I need to read. No more bills for a few months...

4 posted on 10/23/2001 6:58:00 PM PDT by Fury
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Irradiation?

Yeah, I can just picture some PO'd postal guy running around
with a radio-active wand.

At least bullets don't make your hair fall out.

 

5 posted on 10/23/2001 7:08:05 PM PDT by Deep_6
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Radiation will kill Antrax bacteria, but not the spores, according to what I have read.
6 posted on 10/24/2001 4:47:25 AM PDT by snopercod
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When asked if use against anthrax was feasible, Clements said, "In theory, you could because radiation kills [anthrax] spores."

From the article above. I hope the irradiation equipment comes on line soon. It's supposed to increase the cost of a letter by one cent.

7 posted on 10/24/2001 4:50:22 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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I hope the irradiation equipment comes on line soon.

Not technically possible. It will take years just to get the permits for this equipment, let alone to build it. And I am not convinced that it will work against Antrax spores.

From a CNN interview:

GUILLEMIN: Sunshine destroys anthrax spores, but very little else does. Heat doesn't, radiation doesn't. It's resistant to explosives. That's precisely the reason why anthrax was developed as a weapon, because it's tough, whereas most bacteria and viruses are fragile.
Jeanne Guillemin is a medical anthropologist, and a Professor of Sociology and Senior Fellow at MIT's Security Studies Program. In 1992, she was part of a team that investigated a suspicious anthrax epidemic that took place in 1979 in the former USSR. She is an affiliate of the Harvard-Sussex Program, which is involved with the elimination of chemical and biological weapons.

8 posted on 10/24/2001 5:05:31 AM PDT by snopercod
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"Sunshine destroys anthrax spores, but very little else does. Heat doesn't, radiation doesn't."

The amount of radiation typically given to kill bacteria in food is not sufficient for spores.

Doses of radiation used industrially to process foods are stated in terms of "D-value" or the dose that will kill 90% of the target organisms. Since the killing is logarithmic, 2D will kill 99%, 3D will kill 99.9% 4D will kill 99.99%, etc. It is not uncommon to give a "4D" dose. E.coli O157 has a D-value of 0.3 kiloGray.(1 Gray=100 rad) The usual dose given to food is 1.2kiloGy (4D).

According to CDC data on food irradiation, the D-value for sporulated (spore form) bacteria in general (not anthrax specifically) is 2.8 kilogray. The 4D dose would be 11.2 kiloGy. I do not know if anyone has actually done dose/response curves for anthrax spores specifically. I have seen doses mentioned as high as 50 kiloGy (5 million rad). As you can see, this is over 40 times the dose needed to eradicate E.Coli. I don't know anything about the typical throughput time for commercial food irradiators, but with a radiation source with a fixed output like gamma radiation (with small daily decrease due to radioactive decay) it will take approximately 40 times as long to achieve these types of doses.

9 posted on 10/24/2001 5:49:26 AM PDT by SC DOC
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To: Aquinasfan; Physicist
Maybe one good thing to come out of this will be the breakdown of peasant superstitions against the use of irradiation technology.

(Paging Physicist to see if any key scientific points have been overlooked.)

10 posted on 10/24/2001 5:55:39 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: SC DOC
To put it in persepctive (from rad hard electronics work I've done) 14 Kilocuries of Co-60 at ~6 inches will give you 225 rads/sec which means over 6 hours of irradiation to reach that 5 megarad level.

Don't try this at home kids.

11 posted on 10/24/2001 6:02:25 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Aquinasfan
I'm hearing that irradiation won't kill anthrax, but exposure to ultra-violet light will.

The solution??? Take your mail with you to the tanning salon.

12 posted on 10/24/2001 6:09:48 AM PDT by rogers21774
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"Sunshine destroys anthrax spores, but very little else does. Heat doesn't, radiation doesn't."

I'm no physicist, but isn't sunshine itself a form of radiation? Why isn't it possible to artificially replicate this form of radiation and thus kill the spores? Just wondering.

13 posted on 10/24/2001 6:11:28 AM PDT by JHL
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To: JHL
Frequently Asked Questions on Irradiation
14 posted on 10/24/2001 6:13:41 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: SC DOC
To put things in perspective a chest xray dose is about 1/2 Gray.
15 posted on 10/24/2001 6:15:36 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Aquinasfan
I've owned Titan Corp. (TTN) stock for a couple of years now. Bought 100 shares at $7. Its 52 week low was $11.12, its 52 week high, $25.49, and it closed yesterday a little over $19. In after hours trading it's up to over $22.

The company had already been getting lots of government contracts to irradiate food and I'm hoping that they'll get a lot more now to irradiate the mail! Private mail carriers like FedEx will probably want to use their services also.

This may still be a good stock to invest in even at $20. a share.

16 posted on 10/24/2001 6:17:08 AM PDT by Matchett-PI
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To: Aquinasfan
Even more pertinent, radiation kills a-rabs.
17 posted on 10/24/2001 6:36:04 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: SC DOC
The amount of radiation typically given to kill bacteria in food is not sufficient for spores.

Gamma radiation is more energetic than sunlight, therefore some dose will kill anything. The comparision with food irradiation makes perfect sense. You don't want the food cooked or affected in any noticable way, so the dosage would be minimized. But we don't care if ordinary mail is cooked.

Packages containing food or electronic equipment are another matter.

18 posted on 10/24/2001 6:47:57 AM PDT by js1138
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"Another concern that people express is that irradiation will mutate bacteria, and create even more harmful forms. "There is no evidence that mutants that may be produced by irradiation are any more virulent than the parent microorganism; in fact, the opposite is more likely to be the case," according to the FDA."

There is a new book out that effectively debunks the environmentalist wacko claims. It is written by a "reformed" Green. :) There is a really good review of the book which I'm linking you to here, if you're interested:

"The Skeptical Environmetalist" by Bjorn Lomborg - HERE

BTTT

19 posted on 10/24/2001 6:51:58 AM PDT by Matchett-PI
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To: SC DOC
it will take approximately 40 times as long to achieve these types of doses.

Even if this is true, we don't seem to be left with any alternatives. Otherwise, if the terrorists drop ten envelopes a day into the mail, they will have effectively ended the postal system.

20 posted on 10/24/2001 7:09:32 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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