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Knives hint at thwarted hijackings/ Weapons found on other airplanes after Sept. 11 strikes
MSNBC ^ | 9/22/01 | Don Phillips and Dan Eggen

Posted on 09/21/2001 10:29:08 PM PDT by kattracks

Sept. 22 — Federal investigators found box-cutter knives on at least two airplanes during sweeps conducted in the aftermath of the deadly Sept. 11 hijackings, including two stuffed into seat cushions on a flight out of Boston and one found in a trash bin of an Atlanta jetliner headed for Brussels, government officials said yesterday. OFFICIALS SAID the discoveries provide the strongest indication yet that other hijackings may have been planned on Sept. 11, when terrorists commandeered four jetliners with boxcutters and other knives before crashing them into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a field in rural Pennsylvania. Thousands of people are missing and presumed dead.
       Investigators cautioned that they have not determined how the knives came to be on the planes and have not ruled out innocent explanations.

COMBING MANIFESTS
       FBI and Federal Aviation Administration investigators are combing passenger manifests in search of suspects who may have been planning a hijacking that was somehow averted. They are also investigating the possibility that the knives were not left by failed hijackers, but were planted by accomplices who worked for airlines or at airports.

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1 posted on 09/21/2001 10:29:08 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
the possibility that the knives were not left by failed hijackers, but were planted by accomplices who worked for airlines or at airports.

God this is scary stuff. I'm concerned about my fellow Californians who seem to think that LA is the logical west coast target. The plans found in the Phillipines outlined jet crashes into the Sears tower and the TransAmerica pyramid in SF. No offense to LA, but SF is a much prettier target.

2 posted on 09/21/2001 10:34:48 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: kattracks,maica
It looks like some other hijack teams got spooked when the jets suddenly dived for the nearest runways.

President Bush's fast order to get them all on the ground may have saved thousands of more victims.

But these vipers are still crawling among us....

3 posted on 09/21/2001 10:35:30 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
Yes! I think the hijackers (and their backers) must have been totally astonished that President Bush's team grounded all aircraft flying over or into our country (some went to Canada) so fast! And I don't know that I've heard this said - but the fact that all these planes got down safely so fast is a tribute to the skill of all these pilots AND the Air Traffic Controllers - AS WELL AS the determination of our President and his team that not ONE would be allowed to keep flying. I am certain also that this action saved untold hundreds if not thousands of more lives!
4 posted on 09/21/2001 10:41:19 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Travis McGee
I think you are right. Once the announcement was made that the plane was being divered and landing, the hijackers knew they no longer had surprise on their side and that they were likely to fail in their efforts.
5 posted on 09/21/2001 10:41:34 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: comebacknewt,Freedom'sWorthIt
Some of the jets with the knives may not even have gotten into the air.

There were at least two jets where the arab hijackers had a fit at the cancelled flights and ran away.

6 posted on 09/21/2001 10:45:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: GVgirl
Yes, but more "degenerate,Jewish entertainment infidels" live in LA.
7 posted on 09/21/2001 10:46:55 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: GVgirl
you said:
"...The plans found in the Phillipines outlined jet crashes into the Sears tower and the TransAmerica pyramid in SF..."
Can you hook me up with any info on this topic?
8 posted on 09/21/2001 10:47:14 PM PDT by error99
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To: comebacknewt, Freedom'sWorthIt
I never thought about it until now but can you imagine being in the air when that happened? That must have been pretty hairy. Have you heard anyone talk that experienced it?
9 posted on 09/21/2001 10:47:49 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Travis McGee
"...But these vipers are still crawling among us...."

Why is there no discussion of removing all illegals being heard on the broadcasts?
It seems to be the place to start to secure this country.
It's not that big a task.

All illegals out of the U.S. and scrutinize the legal immigrants through the proper procedures.

10 posted on 09/21/2001 10:54:02 PM PDT by ThinkNot
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To: kattracks
Did ja hear the one about the group of Irish highjackers who were going to highjack a few airplanes with flaming bottles of Bushmill's, but drank all the weapons of mass destrucion before the planes got off the ground? They were bombed. (This is a joke and I'm Irish, so no flames please.)
11 posted on 09/21/2001 10:54:54 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: Travis McGee
President Bush's fast order to get them all on the ground may have saved thousands of more victims.

Did you read that he made that order? I hadn't seen that yet.

I guess someone handed him a memo outlining it and he gave it his Johnny Hancock. I didn't think it would take a pres. directive but only the FAA to start shi++ing on everyone.

12 posted on 09/21/2001 10:55:35 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Yes, I have talked with one person who was in the air when this happened - a coworker on a trip back to America from her home in the Far East. She was in the air from Seattle, I think, and had to put down somewhere in the midwest. She said it was scary. But, she is young - and tough....:-)
13 posted on 09/21/2001 10:58:31 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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Investigators cautioned that they have not determined how the knives came to be on the planes...

How f__king stupid.

Until last week, I ALWAYS carried my knife (or knives) with me. Did it all the time, was never challenged or asked about it.

Of course, it's now a "crime" to carry a knife. Pretty soon, we'll see "knife registration" and licensing. How 'bout a two-week waiting period, before you're allowed to own one???

Stupid gubmint officials, thinking that outlawing the weapon will outlaw the crime, or the intent.

Guarenteed, I could do FAR MORE damage with a zippo and an aerosol can of automobile starting fluid, then with my 3" pocket knife...

Never let logic interfere with the liberal/emotional solutions proposed by govt. (FAA) nitwits...

14 posted on 09/21/2001 11:00:52 PM PDT by Capitalist Eric
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis, Big Ern
I don't know if all saw the website that shows American airliners - all of them - at once - and how they all disappeared in just a few minutes as they landed all across the country. Awesome job, pilots and ATControllers!!!

Big Ern - I don't know if Pres. Bush gave the order to shut down the airline traffic. Maybe he did, maybe he did not. But he gets the credit because the buck stops there. By the way - maybe you don't get it yet. We are in a war and we don't really CARE who gets the credit for doing smart, lifesaving actions. We just want lives saved. Then, we can give credit where it is due. Either way - we win - and you lose.

15 posted on 09/21/2001 11:02:29 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Then, we can give credit where it is due. Either way - we win - and you lose.

I guess you read more into my post than was there. I only wanted to know if he actually signed an order or the FAA did it. It was only a technical question. I don't lose despite your jumping to conclusions. Check out some of my other posts and you will see that I am not some infiltrator who is trying to bash Bush or someone who can't stand to see Bush get credit for the planes landing quickly.

Put down the daggers and quit jumping down my throat.

16 posted on 09/21/2001 11:08:48 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: error99
I'm looking. It was a good article on the Phillipine connections of the first WTC bomber. Wish Freepers would use better key words for searches.
17 posted on 09/21/2001 11:12:13 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: kattracks
Two of three men arrested in Detroit this week in connection with the case had previously worked as dishwashers for SkyChef, an airline food service, at the Detroit airport, officials said.

They definitely weren't afraid to fit right into American society, were they? Scary!

18 posted on 09/21/2001 11:16:53 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
" Have you heard anyone talk that experienced it?"

Check with 'Patriot1' or 'newslady' (They're sisters) one of these two were in the air and were diverted to Las Vegas on their way home to New Orleans.

19 posted on 09/21/2001 11:16:59 PM PDT by blam
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To: Capitalist Eric
FYI -- aerosol cans are now prohibited too!

What's next? Neckties (handy for strangulation and as a noose). Ditto for belts.

20 posted on 09/21/2001 11:19:33 PM PDT by onyx
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