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DNC affiliates: blame Bush for attack, accuses of conspiracy to force war; apologism for Afghanistan
Democrats.commies, left wing DNC affiliates ^ | 9/12-today | democrats.commies, Bob Fertik

Posted on 09/16/2001 5:10:47 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist

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NOTE: The following excerpts are the front page comments about the recent terrorist attacks that are currently displayed by Democrats.com, a far left wing Democrat Party front group that is run by DNC insiders, ex Clinton administration officials, and ex Gore campaign strategists. They are literally using every opportunity possible to smear Bush and to politically exploit the recent tragedies. See their disgusting tasteless comments for yourself:

Bush's War in His Own Words: What EXACTLY Are We Fighting For?
Bush says "we're at war," and we take his words with deadly seriousness. If America's youth are going to be sent off to fight and die - and countless innocent lives taken abroad as "collateral damage" - then Bush owes America and the world a clear and meaningful and explanation of what we're fighting for, who we're fighting, and how we're going to win. We won't settle for platitudes, vague statements or meaningless generalizations - either from Bush or from the Republican media. We demand the truth!

Is America Being Set Up for War by the Bush Corporate Machine?
According to the mass media, you'd think at least 2/3 of all Americans are itching to go to war. But talk to young people across the nation (those with the most at stake!), people in banks, grocery stores, restaurants, and you will find a VERY different story. Most want justice, not revenge. This discrepancy between the man on the street and the media machine, which has from day one been an alternating lap and attack dog for Bush, shows that America is being set up big time. While justice against the guilty cannot be turned into a corporate profit, war most certainly can. War can be used to stave off a recession (gets all those young men and women out of the work pool for a while), can force a corporate iron control into countries where an advantage may be gained (Bush has widened his targets now to SIXTY nations), and can make it easy to push through your anti-environmental, anti-human rights agenda in the name of "national security."

Bush Now Threatens to Attack 60 Nations: Are We About to Be Led Off the Edge of a Cliff By a Madman?
When we saw the following story in the BBC, we were chilled with a thought that had never before stuck us, no matter how frustrated and angry we may have been at Bush:  Is he insane? In less than one week, he has gone from threatening to attack any nation  harboring the actual guilty parties to now vowing to unleash the "full wrath" (direct quote) of the U.S. on SIXTY nations. Pumped up by the first real wave of support (born of grief and chaos) that he has ever received and urged on by the two most fanatically intolerant people in his administration (Ashcroft and Rumsfeld), has he gone over the edge into some bizarre John Wayne fantasy? More critically - Will Americans be self-destructive enough to follow him over the edge?

PREVIOUS DEMOCRATS.COM EXCERPTS AND DISCREPENCIES WITHIN THEM:

Compare the following excerpts I and II. Excerpt I is Democrats.com's commments on Afghanistan as they appear AT PRESENT. Excerpt II is that exact same article when it was first posted late Friday. Democrats.com apparantly removed and altered some of the more inflamatory language AFTER freepers took notice of it.

(EXCERPT I - CURRENT ARTICLE)

Bush's Threats May Cause the Starvation of Hundreds of Thousands of Afghan Civilians by Winter
Carefully stoking the anger and fear of Americans still reeling from the disaster, Bush has repeatedly threatened nations harboring terrorists. To Bush, it's just a few words. But for hundreds of thousands of desperately poor Afghan farmers, already living under subsistence conditions brought on by 20 years of war and the worst drought in decades, it may soon mean starvation.

(EXCERPT II - SAME ARTICLE AS OF LAST FRIDAY EVENING)

Bush Threats Expected to Lead to the Starvation of 250,000 Afghanistani Civilians by Winter

Bush is basking in the temporary support of the masses he has gained through the tragedy. Playing upon the anger and fear of Americans still reeling from the disaster, he has made vague inflammatory threats against nations harboring terrorists. To him, it's a photo op moment. For hundreds of thousands of desperately poor Afghanistani farmers, already living under subsistence conditions brought on by 20 years of war and the worst drought in decades, it may soon mean starvation.

NOTE: Perhaps most telling are Democrats.com's comments from immediately after the disaster occurred. Pay careful attention to the final sentence in the excerpt of this article by Democrats.com co-founder and bigwig Democrat political consultant Bob Fertik. Apparantly the "another time" he talks of is now, less than a week after the horrific tragedy.

(EXCERPT)
"This wasn't the moment to denounce the unelected pretender in the White House, who will inevitably want to appear "tough" by unleashing bombs and terrifying someone else's child. That's what terrorism is - grownups feeling justified - or worse, feeling compelled - to frighten, maim, or kill someone else's child.

(Of course, the Republican media will never accuse Bush of "wagging the dog" to divert attention from his lies and sagging polls, as they did when Clinton punished
Saddam Hussein. Nor will they insist that military action will weaken our troops' readiness and morale, as they did when Clinton stopped Slobodon Milosevic. And they certainly won't argue that Bush's malign neglect of the Middle East conflict put America at risk, or his mindless vacationing while warnings swirled, or his raw contempt for world opinion on a dozen global issues. But we'll leave these for another time."


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NOTE: Though the above comments seem to stretch from the fringe left wing extreme of american politics, do not be mistaken as they are comments directly from mainstream circles of the Democrat Party. Democrats.com is literally run, owned, and operated by a who's who list of the Democrat Party's top political consultants. Included on its board of directors are top level Democrat pollster Stan Greenberg (husband of Rep. Rosa DeLauro), DNC bigwig technology consultant Dick Bell, Al Gore's chief campaign strategist and Greg Simon (Simon was part of Gore's innermost circle of advisors along side Donna Brazille and Bill Daley), former Clinton Whitehouse webmaster David Lytel, feminist left wing "non-profit" organization guru and high level democrat campaign manager Bob Fertik, and several figures formerly of the Clinton Whitehouse's media affairs office. This is what the DNC insiders are REALLY thinking behind the scenes about the recent tragedies, despite the faces of sorrow and uncanny willingness to cooperate exhibited by the likes of Dick Gephardt and Tom Daschle in the last few days. To them, this horrific tragedy is nothing more than another political happening to exploit, doctor, spin, and use to smear Bush and the GOP. That is what makes these people truly sickening.
1 posted on 09/16/2001 5:10:47 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
Those people at that site are in need of some intensive help. Pathetic! I feel very sorry for them.
2 posted on 09/16/2001 5:18:18 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOPcapitalist
I check in on them every so often. They have actually toned it down a bit since Tuesday. But still, totally disgusting and absolutely anti-American. The Demonrats have nothing to offer the American people except misery and totalitarianism, so they attack anyone who disagrees with their warped and twisted idea of what America should be.
3 posted on 09/16/2001 5:22:23 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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To: GOPcapitalist
G-Cap, you're gonna give yourself a stroke going over there!
5 posted on 09/16/2001 5:24:38 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: GOPcapitalist
Dubious congratulations. You have found the home page of America's Newest Fifth Column. Like bin Laden, these cowardly snakes strike then crawl back under the rocks from which they emerged. Send this stuff to Rush Limbaugh, Howie Carr and other radio personalities and shine a little light on the vermin.
6 posted on 09/16/2001 5:25:40 PM PDT by SpinyNorman
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To: SentryoverAmerica
I'd like to think that when this is all over, the fifth columnist traitors will be called to account for their words and actions. However, with the Demotraitor party's abject partisanship (as we saw during the Clinton impeachment), and with 50% of the sheeple voting for Clinton's clone Gore in the last election, I'm not very hopeful this will happen.
7 posted on 09/16/2001 5:26:15 PM PDT by white trash redneck
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To: GOP_Lady
Unfortunately they are beyond help. These are the type of people who put their left wing political agendas above ALL else. Period.

Not tragedy, nor disaster, nor common sense, nor common decency itself can convince these types from putting their leftist agendas aside for even one minute. It's a perfect demonstration of the "ends justify the means" mentality that runs the daily lives and actions of the far left. To them, the end of taking political cheap shots justifies their means of exploiting a tragedy to do so. It's beyond sickening, but it's the way it is and that cannot be emphasized enough. If only the public knew what truly sickening creatures lurked inside the Democrat inner circles even at the time of the worst tragedies imaginable.

8 posted on 09/16/2001 5:26:53 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
New York was in the "Blue Zone" in the election. I doubt that it is now.

These idiots think the US is so big a carcass that they can run it down to increase their power and still benefit. If they lived in New York, they might not be talking this way.

Hillary and Bill are a perfect example. They figured it didn't matter how much they fed China and Lippo--they were above it all. Well, you're not above it all if the bombs are crashing all around you. (Although I bet Hillary and Bill still feel that way. She's just bummed that GWB is getting all the attention.)

9 posted on 09/16/2001 5:28:23 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: GOPcapitalist
The BIG LIE, invented by totaitarian regimes and perpetrated by Dems and Big Media, is alive and well.

"They are not STUPID, they are EVIL."

Theya re not patriots, they are megalomaniacs,

caring only about the promulgation and perpetuation of their POWER

and increasing the numbers of Americans who are dependent upon their control through BIG GOVERNMENT.

10 posted on 09/16/2001 5:30:56 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: GOPcapitalist
The BIG LIE, invented by totaitarian regimes and perpetrated by Dems and Big Media, is alive and well.

"They are not STUPID, they are EVIL."

Theya re not patriots, they are megalomaniacs,

caring only about the promulgation and perpetuation of their POWER

and increasing the numbers of Americans who are dependent upon their control through BIG GOVERNMENT.

11 posted on 09/16/2001 5:30:57 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: GOPcapitalist
The Dems are rapidly doing to themselves what the Republicans did to themselves after Pearl Harbor was bombed. When that happened a number of Republicans (such as Herbert Hoover) pitched the idea that FDR had provoked the Japanese into attacking. A few Republicans also pitched the idea that FDR had known all along that the attack was coming and had done nothing to stop it. The results for the Republican party were not happy ones during that period. So I hope the Dems keep this up. They're going to end up turning Bush into the FDR of the 21st Century.
12 posted on 09/16/2001 5:32:04 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: GOPcapitalist
IMO, we should be encouraging the leftists to put out this kind of crap. The backlash alone will set the DemocRAT Party back decades ... or force them to abandon the anti-American leftists that support them.
13 posted on 09/16/2001 5:32:52 PM PDT by LiberalBuster
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To: GOPcapitalist
Republican media


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Oh, if ONLY! Then these scum wouldn't be able to get away with this kind of garbage.
14 posted on 09/16/2001 5:33:27 PM PDT by Green Knight
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To: GOPcapitalist
I think Clintoon was involved in this grand plot too. After all, his half-@ss bombing of an aspirin factory was merely a ruse, luring Americans into a false sense of security. Hey, it actually makes more sense.

Personally, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the real "powers that be" did permit this tragedy to happen, in order to profit from a war (wouldn't be the first time). However, I doubt very much Bush had anything to do with it.

16 posted on 09/16/2001 5:36:04 PM PDT by LiberalBuster
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Of course, the Republican media will never accuse Bush of "wagging the dog" to divert attention from his lies and sagging polls, as they did when Clinton punished Saddam Hussein. Nor will they insist that military action will weaken our troops' readiness and morale, as they did when Clinton stopped Slobodon Milosevic. And they certainly won't argue that Bush's malign neglect of the Middle East conflict put America at risk, or his mindless vacationing while warnings swirled, or his raw contempt for world opinion on a dozen global issues. But we'll leave these for another time."

the Republican media

No comment necessary. This is just too silly.

will never accuse Bush of "wagging the dog" to divert attention from his lies and sagging polls

No comparison. Clinton's actions were the very definition of "wagging the dog," while Bush is simply responding, with proper restraint, to the worst crisis America has faced in decades.

when Clinton punished Saddam Hussein

When Clinton "punished" Saddam Hussein? Hmmm...don't remember that. It was so thinly veiled that only a die-hard Clinton defender would see it as punishing Saddam Hussein instead of the cowardly media diversion. Clinton was a desperate, desperate man at that point. Is Bush similarly desperate? Not hardly.

What bunk this is. I also feel sorry for these deluded people, but unfortunately they've got guys like Peter Jennings and Dan Rather to give credence to them by subtly (and not-so-subtly) attacking Bush's leadership.

17 posted on 09/16/2001 5:37:04 PM PDT by Mr. Mulliner
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To: GOPcapitalist
It seems to me that having both the Left and Right unified will help us get out of this mess. One way to embarass the Left into supporting the U.S. position is to begin to use the lexicon they themselves have concocted. Let's start calling the attack on the U.S. what it is: "A Hate Crime Attack on the U.S." Thousands of Christians, Jews and Muslims were targeted for killing and were killed. Unfortunately it seems the only crime that attracts attention these days are so-called "hate crimes" and if there is any crime (or act of war) in the annals of the U.S. that qualifies, Sept. 11 is it. Perhaps then the Michael Moore's of the world and the other Hate America First fellow travelers will begin to understand what happened and what is at stake.
18 posted on 09/16/2001 5:40:54 PM PDT by infocom
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Thousands of Afghan Civilians by Winter

Bush Threats Expected to Lead to the Starvation of 250,000 Afghanistani Civilians by Winter

Hey, what are a few thousand American lives? Let's just do nothing. Actually, I have to laugh at leftist predictions because they are nearly always exaggerated or patently false.

Examples:

SOVIET UNION

1981 - Expert - "It is a vulgar mistake to think that most people in Eastern Europe are miserable." (Paul Samuelson, Professor of Economics, MIT, Nobel Laureate, Economics, 1981)

1982 - Expert - "The Soviet Union is not now, nor will it be during the next decade, in the throes of a true systematic crisis, for it boasts enormous unused reserves of political and social stability that suffice to endure the deepest difficulties." (Seweryn Bialer, Professor of Political Science, Columbia University, Foreign Affairs Magazine, 1982/3)

1982 - Expert - "I found more goods in the shops, more food in the markets, more cars on the street ... those in the United States who think the Soviet Union is on the verge of economic and social collapse, ready with one small push to go over the brink are wishful thinkers who are only kidding themselves." (Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., 1982)

1983 - Expert - "All evidence indicates that the Reagan administration has abandoned both containment and detonate for a very different objective: destroying the Soviet Union as a world power and possibly even its Communist system. [This is a] potentially fatal form of Sovietphobia ... a pathological rather than a healthy response to the Soviet Union." (Stephen Cohen, Princeton University Sovietologist, 1983) 1984 - Expert - "The Soviet economy has made great national progress in recent years." (John Kenneth Galbraith, Professor of Economics, Harvard University, New Yorker Magaine, 1984)-->

1984 - Expert - "That the Soviet system has made great material progress in recent years is evident both from the statistics and from the general urban scene...One sees it in the appearance of well-being of the people on the streets...and the general aspect of restaurants, theaters, and shops... Partly, the Russian system succeeds because, in contrast with the Western industrial economies, it makes full use of its manpower." (John Kenneth Galbraith, Professor of Economics, Harvard University, 1984)

1984 - Expert - "On the economic front, for the first time in its history the Soviet leadership was able to pursue successfully a policy of guns and butter as well as growth ... The Soviet citizen-worker, peasant, and professional - has become accustomed in the Brezhnev period to an uninterrupted upward trend in his well-being ..." (John Kenneth Galbraith, Professor of Economics, Harvard University, New Yorker Magaine, 1984)

1985 - Expert - "What counts is results, and there can be no doubt that the Soviet planning system has been a powerful engine for economic growth...The Soviet model has surely demonstrated that a command economy is capable of mobilizing resources for rapid growth." (Paul Samuelson, MIT, Nobel laureate in economics, 1985)

1985 - Expert - "It's clear that the ideologies of Communism, socialism and capitalism are all in trouble." (James Reston, New York Times, 1985)

1989 - Expert - "Can economic command significantly compress and accelerate the growth process? The remarkable performance of the Soviet Union suggests that it can. In 1920 Russia was but a minor figure in the economic councils of the world. Today it is a country whose economic achievements bear comparison with those of the United States." (Lester Thurow, Professor of Economics, MIT, The Economic Problem, 1989)

STARVATION

"The battle to feed all of humanity is over. In the 1970s and 1980s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now." --Paul Ehrlich, The Population Bomb, 1968

OVER-POPULATION

"There may be much disagreement with the statement that population and capital growth must stop soon. But virtually no one will argue that material growth on this planet can go on forever." --Paul Ehrlich

"...stopping population growth in 1975 and industrial capital growth in 1985...a world forum where statesmen, policy-makers and scientists...concerted international measures and joint long-term planning will be necessary on a scale and scope without precedent...a rational and enduring state of equilibrium by planned measures...A decision to do nothing is a decision to increase the risk of collapse" --Club of Rome

"...famine and ecocatastrophe...take immediate action...population control...hopefully through changes in our value system, but by compulsion if voluntary methods fail." --Paul Ehrlich, Prophet of Doom, Myopic Visionary

OIL RESERVES DEPLETION

"The era of growth is over and the era of limits is upon us." --Economist Robert Lekachman

"In oil, the United States is clearly approaching depletion. At today's rate of consumption -- not tomorrow's -- the United States has proved reserves of oil sufficient to meet the nation's needs for thirteen years." --Vance Packard, The Waste Makers, 1960

Yes, "clearly." This is obvious to all thinking people! When people like Packard use sweeping language to sound an alarm, beware. They just don't know what the hell they're talking about. If we listened to these clowns every time they predicted the end of the world, we would be in a state of paralysis. Incidentally, in 1973, thirteen years after Vance "Waste Maker" Packard made his prediction, oil reserves were 36 billion barrels. In 1960, reserves were 32 billion barrels. Oops!

GASOLINE SHORTAGE

The Prophets of Doom in Defense of State Intervention, 1970s:

"...obvious that gasoline could reach at least $2 a gallon after decontrol." --John Dingell

"...gas will cost $2 per gallon within a few years and $3 per gallon during the vehicle's lifetime." --Lester Brown, Worldwatch Institute

"...gasoline will soon go to $3 a gallon." --Senator Dale Bumpers, Defender of Liar-in-Chief Bill Clinton

"Ronald Reagan brushed aside energy issues during the campaign, insisting that shortages could be overcome by unleashing private enterprise. But not even his most fervent supporters in the energy business share that optimism. Virtually all private forecasts predict declining domestic oil production and liquid fuel shortages during the next decade." --New York Times

"There is a dwindling supply of energy sources. The prices are going to rise in the future no matter who is President, no matter what party occupies the administration in Washington, no matter what we do." --Jimmy "No Way No How" Carter, Master of Malaise

"We must adopt a system of gasoline rationing without delay...that demands a fair sacrifice from all Americans." --Senator Edward "Never Too Left" Kennedy

So what happened? Well, as was his style, Ronald Reagan ignored all the gloom-and-doom "Brain Trusters." In the first month of his administration (1981), he issued an Executive Order ending oil price controls. Within four months, the average price of unleaded gasoline fell from $1.41 to 86¢. Refineries' average cost of buying crude oil fell from more than $30 a barrel in 1981 to less than half of that by March 1986. And by the end of the 1980s, crude oil reserves were 41 percent higher than they were at the beginning of the decade.

19 posted on 09/16/2001 5:43:27 PM PDT by LiberalBuster
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To: GOPcapitalist
9-11 is a direct result of 8 years of Clintoon foreign policy.
20 posted on 09/16/2001 5:43:47 PM PDT by TheDon
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