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Request to Freepers - Terrorists training in our backyard
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Posted on 09/16/2001 6:43:27 AM PDT by Aaron_A

I was going over a thread on some jihadi webring hosted by Yahoo, and Captain11 noticed an interesting link. This was for a 'security' company by the name of Sakina Security Services (http://www.sakina.fsbusiness.co.uk/ultimate.htm).

Doing a google search, I found their complete site (http://www.sakinasecurity.com/). Some information on this site is extremely disturbing to me. Here's a snippet;

THE ULTIMATE JIHAD CHALLENGE

THE ULTIMATE JIHAD CHALLENGE IS A TWO-WEEK COURSE IN OUR 1,000-ACRE STATE OF THE ART SHOOTING RANGE IN THE UNITED STATES. DUE TO THE FIREARMS LAW OF THE UK ALL SERIOUS FIREARMS TRAINING MUST BE DONE OVERSEAS.

THE COURSE EMPHASIS IS ON PRACTICAL LIVE FIRE TRAINING. YOU WILL FIRE BETWEEN 2,000 TO 3,000 ROUNDS OF MIXED CALIBER AMMUNITION. CLASS THEORY IS KEPT TO A MINIMUM. YOU WILL BE TAUGHT THE FOLLOWING SKILLS: -

WEAPONS FAMILIARIZATION
LIVE FIRE MARKMANSHIP
LIVEFIRE FIREARMS DRILLS
LIVE FIRE PEDESTRIAN ESCORT
ACTIONS ON LIVE FIRE
TACTICAL AMBUSH (UNDER FIRE)
LIVE FIRE TACTICAL TEAM FORMATION
LIVE FIRE WORKING AS A TEAM (UNDER FIRE)
LIVE FIRE VEHICLE ANTI-AMBUSH DRILL
LIVE FIRE SHOOTING ON THE MOVE
LIVE FIRE ENGAGING MULTIPLE TARGETS
LIVE FIRE CONCEALED CARRY
LIVE FIRE COVER & CONCEALMENT
LIVE FIRE PRO-ACTIVE ENCOUNTER
LIVE FIRE SHOOTING FROM MULTIPLE POSITIONS
LIVE FIRE COMBAT JUNGLE RUN
LIVE FIRE SNIPER / COUNTER SNIPER
LIVE FIRE SHOOTING AT, THRU & FROM VEHICLE
LIVE FIRE HOSTAGE RESCUE
LIVE FIRE NIGHT & DIM LIGHT SHOOTING
LIVE FIRE WEAPONS FIELD STRIPPING & MAINTENANCE
UNDERSTANDING AMMUNITION CAPABILITIES

Sakina security services provide an instructor development course for the students who want to make a career out of this specialist training.


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I think this deserves a seperate discussion.
1 posted on 09/16/2001 6:43:27 AM PDT by Aaron_A
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To: captain11,Byron_the_Aussie, Sawdring, Pericles, Black Jade, Alamo-Girl, Travis McGee, Mad Russian
Bump!
2 posted on 09/16/2001 6:45:24 AM PDT by Aaron_A
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To: ATC, goody2shooz, vooch,rdavis84,oxi-nato, super175 , Lent, Askel5
Bump!
3 posted on 09/16/2001 6:48:16 AM PDT by Aaron_A
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To: Aaron_A
Just from what you've posted it sounds like an anti or counter-terrorist type of training. In other words, challenging the Jihad. Just my 2 cents.
4 posted on 09/16/2001 6:48:16 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Aaron_A
hell, sign me up! that looks cool.
5 posted on 09/16/2001 6:48:23 AM PDT by AntiTyrant
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To: Aaron_A
Terrorists training in our backyard

Whose backyard? The company is based in London. England.

6 posted on 09/16/2001 6:53:04 AM PDT by wysiwyg
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Check the website...looks like 'working' in dangerous environments. I have also found another reference to this company in a BBC article.

"An extremist religious organisation is believed to be targeting young men in cities such as London and Birmingham to fight a holy war (jihad) in Chechnya and Kashmir. The recruits are trained in all aspects of warfare, with advanced training available abroad.

Adi Ya Ya
Adi Ya Ya, a 25-year-old from north London, spent four months at a military training camp in Kashmir. He returned to the UK to recruit others to fight for independence in Kashmir.

"I learned everything with respect to fighting - making bombs, using artillery, using a Kalashnikov, how to ambush," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme. Sakina Security Services, an international organisation funded by wealthy individuals, ran the course. Its website says it specialises in "high risk jobs in the former Soviet Union and in the civil war arenas of the world".

Islamic rebels are among those fighting the Russians in Chechnya Adi Ya Ya says the recruits trained to defend fellow Muslims. "If that means that we learn how to make bombs, then we learn how to make bombs. If that means that we learn how to kill, we learn how to kill...."

7 posted on 09/16/2001 6:53:52 AM PDT by Aaron_A
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To: wysiwyg
All weapons training is conducted in the United States.
8 posted on 09/16/2001 6:54:37 AM PDT by Aaron_A
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Just from what you've posted it sounds like an anti or counter-terrorist type of training. In other words, challenging the Jihad. Just my 2 cents.

I think you're right. The sort of thing I might have sneered at a week ago as the fantasies of overgrown adolescents.

"LIVE FIRE PEDESTRIAN ESCORT" and "LIVE FIRE HOSTAGE RESCUE" don't sound like things terrorists would do.

9 posted on 09/16/2001 6:54:46 AM PDT by BurkeanCyclist
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To: Aaron_A
Oh. Maybe you're right. Then arrest the bastards.
10 posted on 09/16/2001 6:56:21 AM PDT by BurkeanCyclist
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To: BurkeanCyclist
http://www.qoqaz.net/ Link on that page to a Palestenian Group. Hardly anti-terrorist
11 posted on 09/16/2001 6:56:40 AM PDT by rube
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To: Aaron_A
All weapons training is conducted in the United States.

In the immortal words of Emily Litella, "Never mind."

12 posted on 09/16/2001 6:57:49 AM PDT by wysiwyg
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To: wysiwyg
Maybe we should all take the course, and become our own anti-terrorist jihad. :^)
13 posted on 09/16/2001 7:15:36 AM PDT by meyer
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To: Aaron_A
It does deserve a separate discusion. Deb started running amuck on the thread here ---- Bin Laden British cell planned gas attack on European Parliament
14 posted on 09/16/2001 7:24:52 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: madrussian
heard of these gus?
15 posted on 09/16/2001 8:15:10 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Aaron_A
The Jihad - coming to a theatre near you.
16 posted on 09/16/2001 9:07:45 AM PDT by Lent
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To: Travis McGee, FBI, INS, All
There are quite a few pro-terrorists web sites some of which are hosted in the US. That jihad webring links page has some of them. Also:

www.qoqaz.net
www.azzam.com
www.amina.com

17 posted on 09/16/2001 10:21:42 AM PDT by madrussian
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To: madrussian
Also

www.kavkaz.org

18 posted on 09/16/2001 10:23:51 AM PDT by madrussian
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To: madrussian
traceroute to www.kavkaz.org shows as the last two hops:

p3-0.dist2.irv-ca.us.xo.net (64.0.0.174)
www.kavkaz.org

I don't know if that reliably determines that a bunch of terrorists are residing in irvine, ca. Time for a sweep by the FBI.

19 posted on 09/16/2001 10:31:38 AM PDT by madrussian
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To: Aaron_A
Check out the info I posted. Call the FBI and tell them to check those guys out.
20 posted on 09/16/2001 10:32:29 AM PDT by madrussian
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