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Clinton's Allies in Bosnia - The 7th Mujahedeen Brigade
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Posted on 09/07/2001 7:36:19 AM PDT by vooch
7th Bosnian Muslim Brigade, based in Zenica - the international Islamic mercenary force known as the mujahedeen
7th Bosnian Muslim Brigade, based in Zenica - the international Islamic mercenary force known as the mujahedeen
Alija Izetbegovic with memebrs of 7th Brigade
"... The first and foremost of such conclusions is surely the one on the incompatibility of Islam and non-Islamic systems. There can be no peace or coexistence between the "Islamic faith" and non- Islamic societies and political institutions. ... Islam clearly excludes the right and possibility of activity of any strange ideology on its own turf. Therefore, there is no question of any laicistic principles, and the state should be an expression and should support the moral concepts of the religion. ..." page 22 "The Islamic Declaration" book ("Islamska deklaracija"), written by Mr. Alija Izetbegovic, Bosnian Muslim leader.
In preparing the ground for the conflicts between Bosnian Cristians (Croats and Serbs) and Bosnian Muslims, residents of different Arab countries who in the B&H had recognized the elements and challenge of a holy war - jihad. Coming from different Arab countries, most of them were from Yemen, Algeria, Egypt, Tunisia and Afghanistan, and bringing with them experience from a war from some of the Islamic trouble spots.
Mujahedin, or «holy warriors», is a generic term for Muslim volunteers fighting in the former Yugoslavia. Many Mujahedin originate from Muslim countries outside the former Yugoslavia. It was reported that the Mujahedin began arriving in BiH as early as June 1992. (Tom Post & Joel Brand, «Help from the Holy Warriors», Newsweek, 5 October 1992, at 52). Reports on the number of Mujahedin forces operating in BiH vary, but it is unlikely that the Mujahedin forces have made a significant military contribution to the BiH Government's war effort (Christopher Lockwood, «Muslim Nations Offer Troops», Daily Telegraph, 14 July 1993, at 14. According to Lockwood, Muslim nations depended on Western logistical support to deliver troops to BiH. He concludes that the same logistical troubles which kept the Muslim troops promised in July of 1993 from joining UN forces in the UN declared «safe havens» also limited the number of Muslim volunteers in the BiH armed forces. He states that the number of Mujahedin in BiH never exceeded three or four hundred. See also Mohamed Sid-Ahmad, «Muslim World Between Two Fires», War Report, January 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 63744. However, the Belgrade Daily, Vecernje Novosti, reported that as many as 30,000 Mujahedin were operating in BiH. «Other Reports in Brief: Muslims from Abroad Settling in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Belgrade Daily Claims», BBC, Summary of World Broadcasts, 19 September 1992. )
The Mujahedin forces came from several Muslim states and many of them were veterans of the Afghan war. (Andrew Hogg, «Arabs Join in Bosnia Battle», Sunday Times, 30 August 1992)
Reports submitted to the Commission of Experts alleged that the Mujahedin have been responsible for the mutilation and killing of civilians, rape, looting, the destruction of property, and the expulsion of non-Muslim populations. The deputy commander of the BiH Army, Colonel Stjepan Siber, has said, «it was a mistake to let them [the Mujahedin] here . . . They commit most of the atrocities and work against the interests of the Muslim people. They have been killing, looting and stealing.» Andrew Hogg, «Terror Trail of the Mujahedin», Sunday Times, 27 June 1993.
Several reports indicate that the Mujahedin were placed under the command of the BiH Army.(See «Some 400 Mujahedin Volunteers Fighting with Bosnian Muslims», Agence France Presse, 22 September 1992; Andrew Hogg, «Arabs Join in Bosnia Battle», Sunday Times, 30 August 1992; see also Charles McLoed, ECMM, «Report on Inter-Ethnic Violence in Vitez, Busovaca and Zenica», April 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 20178- 20546, at 20207; Croatian Information Centre, Weekly Bulletin, No. 9, 4 October 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 36434-36438, at 36435; US Department of State, 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 62612-62877, at 62648, 62724, 62730, and 62756)
The Mujahedin forces were closely associated with the 5th Corps, the 6th and 7th Zenica Brigades, the 7th Travnik Brigade, and the 45th Muslim Brigade which belongs to the 6th Corps in Konjic of the Army of BiH (US Department of State, 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 62612-62877, at 62648; see also Croatian Information Centre, Weekly Bulletin, No. 9, 4 October 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 36434-36438, at 36435; «Continuing Clashes in Northwestern Enclave Reported from Both Sides», BBC, Summary of World Broadcasts, 14 December 1993.)
They also allegedly fought alongside the Muslim Police, the Krajiska Brigade from Travnik, units of Kosovo Muslims, Albanian soldiers, and paramilitary groups such as the «Green Legion» and the «Black Swans».(Charles McLoed, ECMM, Report on Inter-Ethnic Violence in Vitez, Busovaca and Zenica, April 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 20178-20546, at 20207; Croatian Information Centre, Weekly Bulletin, No. 9, 4 October 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 36434-36438, at 36435; US Department of State, 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 62612-62877, at 62648, 62724, 62730, and 62756.)
Reports also indicate that the Mujahedin had the support of President Izetbegovic and his government. *57 This was demonstrated in the Bihac pocket, where the Mujahedin joined BiH forces loyal to Izetbegovic. Together, these forces battled separatist forces who entered into a separate peace treaty with Bosnian Serbs («Continuing Clashes in Northwestern Enclave Reported form Both Sides», BBC, Summary of World Broadcasts, 14 December 1993)
In Zenica, between 31 August and 2 September 1992, 250 Mujahedin troops allegedly come to BiH from Turkey, Qatar, Bahrain and Iran. These troops worked alongside the Green Legion and HOS paramilitary groups stationed in Zenica. The Mujahedin allegedly also operated a camp at Arnauti.(Charles McLeod, ECMM, Report on Inter-Ethnic Violence in Vitez, Buscovaca and Zenica, April 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 29043-29131, at 29064; Biljaja Plavsic, Republic of Serbia Presidency, To Serbs All Over the World, 30 September 1992, IHRLI Doc. No. 48072- 48093, at 48081)
It was reported that a unit of the Mujahedin, called the «Guerilla», participated in the 16 April 1993 attack on Vitez and attempted to exchange 10 HVO hostages for foreign prisoners held in HVO prisons. (US Department of State, 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 62612-62877, at 62629; see also Charles McLeod, ECMM, Report on Inter-Ethnic Violence in Vitez, Busovaca and Zenica, April 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 29043-29131, at 29072 (attack on Vitez).
The Croatian Ministry of Defence is reported to have provided information about an event occurring in June 1993 -- a joint BiH/Mujahedin unit reportedly attacked Travnik, allegedly forcing 4,000 Croatian civilians and military personnel out of the town. (US Department of State, 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 62612-62877, at 62650. Media reports however claim that Croats left Travnik voluntarily. The incident was investigated by an organization, which reported that the forceful eviction did not take place)
The Mujahedin allegedly fought alongside the 6th Muslim Brigade from Zenica and the Krajiska Brigade from Travnik. Witnesses stated that they saw Mujahedin operating in small patrols ahead of the approaching BiH troops.
According to HVO intelligence, Mujahedin forces arrived in Travnik sometime before June 1993 and came from Algeria, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran. The Mujahedin trained at a camp at Mehurici, where they were allegedly financed and equipped by a man named Abdulah, the owner of the «Palma» video store in Travnik. Once in town, the Mujahedin were linked to the Seventh Brigade of the BiH Army, and were reportedly assembled into units of 10 to 15 men, and moved about on regular patrols. The Mujahedin created tension in Travnik in the days prior to the attack on 3 June. One witness stated that the Mujahedin directed their actions towards the HVO personnel in town. They allegedly demonstrated, shouted slogans and fired their rifles in the air.
Mujahedin allegedly participated in the attack on Maljine in Novi Travnik on 8 June 1993, killing 20 to 30 HVO members and transporting Croatian women and children to the training centre at Mehurici.(Croatian Information Centre, Weekly Bulletin, No. 1, 9 August 1993)
In Konjic, the Mujahedin were part of a 100 member force stationed at Liscioi and led by Haso Hakalovic. The unit was assembled in February 1993 and included some Kosovo Muslims and members of the Black Swans from the Igman mountain region. (US Department of State, 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 62612-62877, at 62756)
Allegedly, Mujahedin troops killed and expelled villagers, and looted and burned homes, when they moved against the Jablanica- Konjic area. The Mujahedin troops and members of the Black Swans reportedly conducted occasional raids without members of BiH forces. (at IHRLI Doc. No. 62752 and 62756. The village of Vrci was attacked on 25 May, and the village of Radesine was attacked on 10 June. See also Tadeusz Mazowiecki, Fifth Periodic Report on the Situation of Human Rights in the Territory of the Former Yugoslavia, U.N. Doc. E/CN.4/1994/47, 17 November 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 52399-52435, at 52405 (alleging that the Mujahedin were involved in attacks at Kopjari on 21 October, Doljani on 27 and 28 June, and Maljane on 8 June). UN Special Rapporteur Mazowiecki claims that corpses of Mujahedin victims displayed evidence of protracted cruelty and mutilation. )
Reportedly, the Mujahedin volunteers arrived in Konjic in small groups. It was reported that they were from Afghanistan and that they claimed to be students. They were allegedly armed with Hekleri automatic weapons and former JNA equipment. Some Mujahedin were reportedly former students with no military experience.
Mujahedin forces were present in Mostar since early June 1993. They were reportedly stationed in the Santica neighbourhood on the Muslim/HVO front, where they manned bunkers, usually in groups of six or seven, armed with 7.62 millimetre semi-automatic weapons, machine-guns, and Zolja anti-tank weapons. They were billeted in a building they shared with the Muslim military police on the east bank of the Neretva River. The Mujahedin forces apparently left Mostar on 15 August. (US Department of State, 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 62612-62877, at 62742 and 62677. For more details on the location of the Neretva living quarters, see Id. at 62739)
FRY reported that the Mujahedin began operations near Teslic in July and August of 1992. Troops from Saudi Arabia allegedly killed three Serbian Territorial Defence members and placed the victims' severed heads on poles near the «Tesanj turret». (Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, Second Report Submitted to the Commission of Experts, 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 28401-29019, at 28533)
Beheadings of Serbs by Mujahedin forces have also been reported in other areas.
The Mujahedin were also alleged to be part of the forces that invaded the village of Trusina near Foca on 15 April 1993. According to the report, attackers wore white ribbons on their arms and fought beside Albanian Muslim troops. Twenty-two civilians reportedly died in the attack. (US Department of State, 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 62612-62877, at 62648; Croatian Information Centre, Weekly Bulletin, No. 9, 4 October 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 36434-36438, at 36435)
The Mujahedin allegedly performed crude circumcisions upon Serbian police forces, who were later treated by an American surgeon at the Kosevo hospital in Sarajevo. (Letter dated 7 December 1992 from the Deputy Representative of the US to U.N. Secretary-General, U.N. Doc. S/24918, 8 December 1992, IHRLI Doc. No. 3160-3177, at 3173; Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, Second Report Submitted to the Commission of Experts, 1993, IHRLI Doc. No. 28401-29019, at 28566)
This photograph was seized from Saudi Arabian fighters captured in Crni Vrh near Teslic, Bosnia. A Muslim solder displays the severed head of Blagoje Blagojevic, a Serb from the village of Jasenovo near Teslic.
The severed heads of three Serbs (identified as Blagoje Blagojevic, Nenad Petkovic, and Brana Djuric) beheaded by Muslim fighters. This picture was seized from Saudi Arabian solders captured near Teslic in Bosnia.
7th Brigade, loyal Islamic force
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/timbeat4.htm
Director of the U.S. Congress' Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional warfare: "Some Call It Peace"
http://members.tripod.com/Balkania/resources/geostrategy/bodansky_peace/bp_part1.html
7th Muslim "Liberation" Brigade
http://www.wargamer.com/sp/military/bih/armija/foreign.asp
Washington Post - Iranians Form Terror Force in Bosnia
http://impact.users.netlink.co.uk/namir/sreport.htm
Bosnia losing the pluralistic character
http://www.bosnet.org/archive/bosnet.w3archive/9501/msg00252.html
No future for Muslims in Europe unless they have a state of their own
http://www.amber.ucsf.edu/homes/ross/public_html/bosnia_/mus.txt
US Senate Document; Clinton-Approved Iranian Arms Transfers Help Turn Bosnia into Militant Islamic Base
http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1997/iran.htm
A BOSNIAN VILLAGE'S TERRORIST
http://www.mfa.gov.yu/Aktuelno/BIVSE/BiH/wpost11032000_e.html
The Second Coming of Alija Izetbegovic
http://www.balkanpeace.org/our/our05.shtml
Selling the Bosnian Myth to America: Part I-Buyer Beware
http://reagan.com/HotTopics.main/HotMike/document-12.11.2000.3.html
Army suspects munitions manufactured for Bosnian army
http://archive.nandotimes.com/newsroom/nt/0204yugfff.html
Similarity - The 13th Waffen-Gebirgs Division der SS Handschar
http://www.wssob.com/013divhnd.html
Jihad - the "Holly War"
http://blaskic.croat.net/jihad.htm
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posted on
09/07/2001 7:36:19 AM PDT
by
vooch
To: Hoplite, Ranger, Bluester, DTA, Balkans, crazykatz
Some of Hoplite's buddies in action. Hoplite's
Humanitarian Warriors supplied, funded, and promoted these paramilitary killers thereby smearing our country with their crimes.
The ICTY has determined that defacto command responsibility (ie supply, funding, and promotion) is enough evidence for proving guilt in the event of war crimes. It is only just that those Humanitarian Warriors who supported such paramilitaries as the 7th Mujahedeen face trial for their crimes. For more see USFM 27-10 chp. 6, para 366
could someone pluz post the photos which accompined the article they are illuminating.
2
posted on
09/07/2001 7:42:27 AM PDT
by
vooch
To: vooch
The Serbs declared a Jihad against the Muslims in Bosnia starting in April of '92. The Muj show up in June.
This whole cause and effect thing escapes you, doesn't it.
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posted on
09/07/2001 9:36:46 AM PDT
by
Hoplite
To: Hoplite
hmmm....I'll take your post as implict assent that the Humanitarian Warriors are proud of their support of the 7th Mujahdeen and the corrupt poster boy.....Sarcibey.
as for cause and effect.....perhaps the Lisbon Agreement may ring a bell ?
4
posted on
09/07/2001 9:44:48 AM PDT
by
vooch
To: vooch
Great, tell me how the Lisbon agreement forced people like Arkan to, against their will, rape, murder, plunder, and generally act like modern day vandals.
All the West's fault. Just keep repeating your mantra.
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posted on
09/07/2001 9:54:33 AM PDT
by
Hoplite
To: Hoplite
>>>The Serbs declared a Jihad against the Muslims<<<<
Dear Holplite,
Oops, again those difficult foreign words.Here is the cheat sheet:
From Webster''s
Main Entry: ji·had
Pronunciation: ji-'häd, chiefly British -'had
Function: noun
Etymology: Arabic jihAd
Date: 1869
1 : a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious duty 2 : a crusade for a principle or belief
If you haven;t heard, jihad is the term used to describe holy war against the infidels ( Christians, Jews, Hindus, Animists,and everybody else)
Your comments are perfect example what happens when zeal is not followed by basic education.
Get some courses at Community college. It is cheaper than veery expensive help.
start from here
or, if reading is too hard for you, here is crash course in pictures:
This photograph was seized from Saudi Arabian fighters captured in Crni Vrh near Teslic, Bosnia. A Muslim solder displays the severed head of Blagoje Blagojevic, a Serb from the village of Jasenovo near Teslic.
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posted on
09/07/2001 11:31:40 AM PDT
by
DTA
To: DTA
Wow! Thanks. Have a pic for yourself.
That's April '92, sparky. And those dead people are dead simply because they're Muslim, not for anything they have done.
Your comment is a perfect example of what happens when basic education comes face to face with such advanced concepts as irony.
2 a : the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning
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posted on
09/07/2001 12:11:59 PM PDT
by
Hoplite
To: DTA, hoplite
Thanks for the photos
lez figgur this one out. Hoplite's allies are photo'd gleefully holding up heads of their beheaded victims. Hoplite's enemies are photo'd verfiying (albeit brutally) if the bad guys are still a threat.........
hmmmmmmm beheading vs. verification
and still through all that Hoplite refuses to condemn the 7th Mujahedeen which BTW fought a ferocious campaign against the loyalist Muslims under Fikret Abdic (who also happened to be the legally elected President of BiH)
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posted on
09/07/2001 1:47:39 PM PDT
by
vooch
To: Balkans, pericles
and still Hoppie fails to see the key issue here namely
The guys doing the beheading were supplied, funded, & promoted by Clinton et. al........therefore, somewhere, someplace our country is besmirched with the blood of those beheaded victims.
It was done with our tax dollars, by our elected officials.....Hoppie and therein lies the difference.
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posted on
09/07/2001 1:51:46 PM PDT
by
vooch
To: Hoplite
Hoplite, you are great source.
Quote from Canadian Ambassador to Yugoslavia, J. Bissett. who was there at the time:
In March 1992, each of the three leaders: Izetbegovic for the Muslims, Boban for the Croats, and Karadzic for the Serbs, signed the so-called Lisbon Agreement. Among diplomats in Belgrade there was general relief and for the first time a sense of hope for the future. Alas it was not to be.
Within days of the Lisbon Agreement, the United States Ambassador, Warren Zimmerman flew to Sarajevo and met with Izetbegovic. Upon finding that Izetbegovic was having second thoughts about the agreement he had signed in Lisbon, the Ambassador suggested that if he withdrew his signature, the United States would grant recognition to Bosnia as an independent state. Izetbegovic then withdrew his signature and renounced the agreement.
Within days the war had spread to Bosnia.
end of quote.
As you rightfully mentioned, pictures are from April 1992, AFTER Bosnian Muslims unconstitutionally declared independence of Bosnia. That happened after Lisbon agreement was torpedoed by Zimmerman and Izetbegovic. (pics appeared in TIME originally)
All innocent deaths are regretable and all criminals should be punished.
paramilitaries from the picture should be punished for war crime. Warren Zimmerman and Izetbegovic should be punished for CRIME AGAINST PEACE, like Nazi criminals in Nuremberg
Hoplite, you can change hair colour, you can change accent, but you can not change the facts.
Ugly facts come back to haunt you.Only communists and liberals disregard the facts as something irrelevant. And you are neither, aren't you?
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posted on
09/07/2001 1:53:28 PM PDT
by
DTA
To: vooch
Do you know for sure that those people are dead there? I always thought they looked like they were cringing.
If they are dead, how were they killed? Notice that the woman's white vest has no blood on it whatsoever - none on her hair or hands either. The other man doesn't show any stains on his sage-colored vest, nor does the man in the black leather jacket with the white socks show any evidence of violence.
If these people were killed, how were they killed. It looks too clean to have been done by shooting.
Those "soldiers" with the painted faces - has anyone identified them? This photo reminds me of the photo shoots that the West is doing these days of the Albanian "rebels" in Macedonia - they have that same "set-up" style.
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posted on
09/07/2001 2:07:55 PM PDT
by
joan
To: joan
If you look at the head of the person lying closest to the two soldiers, you'll see what looks like a pool of blood. It could be the reflection of the brick on water, but I think it's blood.
To: joan
I just love this
picture because it
always brings out the
B.S. artists in full force.
Shame on you, Joan, we've been over this before.
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posted on
09/07/2001 2:55:31 PM PDT
by
Hoplite
To: constitutiongirl
The whole pavement is wet; it looks like it had been raining that day. How do you explain that man's white collar?
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posted on
09/07/2001 3:05:04 PM PDT
by
joan
To: constitutiongirl
Also, do you know the names of any of those "soldiers" or people on the ground - you'd think with such wide circulation of the photo we'd have names and photos of them with their identities? How do you know those people on the ground are not Serbs anyway?
Those people do not even look like any photos of Serbs I've seen.
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posted on
09/07/2001 3:11:21 PM PDT
by
joan
To: joan
I wasn't even making a guess at the identities of the people on the ground. I just said it looks like a pool of blood. My brother was shot in the head and bled out, face down and he didn't have any blood on the back of his head or the back of his shirt. It ran under the front of his body towards his feet. It looks like the two people closest to the 'kicking' soldier are cringing. Their fingers look 'fisted' and tight.
To: joan
Also, Joan, I distrust 'photo-journalism' as much as I distrust print journalism. A photographer can put any 'slant' he wants onto a single photo. I'd like to see every single shot he took from the beginning to the end.
To: constitutiongirl
"It looks like the two people closest to the 'kicking' soldier are cringing. Their fingers look 'fisted' and tight."
Yes, I agree, and the coloring of their ears, sides of their faces, and fingers looks like that of the living.
Do you know how long it takes the coloring to drain from someone's complexion after they've been killed? I mean, do they pale immediately, in several minutes, in hours...?
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posted on
09/07/2001 3:40:30 PM PDT
by
joan
To: joan
I have no idea. Maybe a couple of doctors will find their way to this thread and let us know.
To: constitutiongirl, Hoplite, vooch, joan
A kick in the head is a lot better I would say than no head at all. Those civilians suffered less at the hands of those uniformed men than Rodney King or Abner Loumia did at the hands of American police.
Besides, better to be safe than sorry and make sure those civilians have their faces down and hands exposed, they might be hiding a weapon that can be used when your back is turned. I find this photo that Hoplite likes to show not horrifying at all.
What I find horrifying is that Clinton turned the power of the USA into supplying the head cutting Islam Jihadists.
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posted on
09/07/2001 4:04:48 PM PDT
by
Pericles
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