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Poll: Libertarian Johnson beating Trump, Clinton among active troops
thehill.com ^ | July 20, 2016 | Kristina Wong

Posted on 07/21/2016 5:37:59 PM PDT by grundle

Military troops favor Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson for president over Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, according to a new survey.

Johnson garnered 38.7 percent of the active duty vote, versus 30.9 for Trump, and 14.1 for Clinton, according to the survey, which was conducted via the popular military personality Doctrine Man.

Although the survey was not a scientific poll with a margin of error, it provides a snapshot of the preferences of about 3,500 active duty, reservists, retired and former members of the military and their family members, 95.7 percent of which were registered voters.

Among all services except for the Navy, Johnson performed better than Trump and Clinton.

Current, reserve and former members of the Army preferred Johnson at 35.4 percent. Trump, the Republican nominee, came in second at 31.4 percent, and Clinton, the likely Democratic nominee, at 15.3 percent.

Among the Marine community, an overwhelming 44.1 percent chose Johnson, while 27.1 percent chose Trump, and 12.7 percent chose Clinton.

The majority of the Air Force respondents chose Johnson at 39 percent, but Trump next at 29.9 percent and Clinton at 12.9 percent.

Trump ranked the top choice for the Navy community, at 32.4 percent, versus 31.7 percent for Johnson and 22.9 percent for Clinton.

Despite Clinton's underwhelming performance among active duty troops in the poll, their family members preferred Clinton at 29.4 percent to 27.5 percent for Trump. Johnson came in third, at 24.5 percent.

Trump came out on top among members of the military who retired after serving at least 20 years.

Retirees preferred Trump at 37.4 percent, compared to 32.2 percent for Johnson and only 11 percent for Hillary Clinton.

However, when former members of the military who served fewer than 20 years were included, Johnson came in first, at 36.1 percent, while Hillary Clinton garnered 12.6 percent.

The new survey underscores the unpopularity of both Trump and Clinton, something that was also reflected in a recent Military Times survey.

Troops have found themselves at the center of several heated campaign debates, many of them sparked by Trump.

Trump has said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who was held captive during the Vietnam War, is "not a war hero" and has said that if he ordered troops to re-institute waterboarding, they would do it. Trump has also called for killing terrorists' families.

Trump has also railed against the Department of Veteran Affairs and suggested Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl should be executed for leaving his post.

The attention to troops this campaign cycle has prompted the nation's top military officer, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Marine Gen. Joseph Dunford, to remind troops not to politicize the military during the elections.

"What we must collectively guard against is allowing our institution to become politicized, or even perceived as being politicized, by how we conduct ourselves during engagements with the media, the public, or in open or social forums," he wrote in the July issue of Joint Force Quarterly, a military academic journal.


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To: usafa92

Hmm - that one doesn’t include the Libertarian candidate - nice try (ok, not really a good try at all)


41 posted on 07/21/2016 6:02:11 PM PDT by utford
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To: utford

Hey moron, read the article, Gary Johnson at 13%. Apparently not only are you lazy, but illiterate as well.


42 posted on 07/21/2016 6:04:41 PM PDT by usafa92 (Trump 2016 - Destroying the GOPe while Making America Great Again)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

I saw a Military Times article saying basically the military hates Trump. Not long ago, a Military Times survey said Trump was very popular. So I did a short search. Most didn’t mention Johnson. This is the article I saw. There were lots of pie graphs and what not on some of the articles. The first article from MT, it was very hard to find the actual title of the article.

Losers The next commander in chief
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/election/2016/07/17/military-times-survey-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/87024898/

More than 61 percent indicated they are “dissatisfied” or “very dissatisfied” with Trump as the Republican nominee, including 28 percent of those who intend to vote for him. More than 82 percent said the same about Clinton, the Democratic nominee, with 30 percent of those pledging to vote for her voicing displeasure with the choice.

Military Times survey: Troops prefer Trump to Clinton by a huge margin 8:57 a.m. EDT May 10, 2016
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/election/2016/05/09/military-times-survey-donald-trump-beats-hillary-clinton/84132402/
In a new survey of American military personnel, Donald Trump emerged as active-duty service members’ preference to become the next U.S. president, topping Hillary Clinton by more than a 2-to-1 margin.

Poll: The Military Wants Trump To Be President
03/15/2016
http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/15/poll-the-military-wants-trump-to-be-president/

In total, 27 percent of troops listed GOP front-runner Donald Trump as their preferred candidate, with Democratic Sen. Bernie Sanders following closely behind at 22 percent. GOP Sen. Ted Cruz gained 17 percent of support, while the next in line is former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton at 11. 17 percent.

Poll: Military Prefers Trump Over Clinton 2-1
Sunday, 17 Jul 2016 06:26 PM
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/military-poll-Trump-Clinton/2016/07/17/id/739074/

Here’s the breakdown in support, according to Military Times:

Trump: 49 percent
Clinton: 21 percent
Libertarian Gary Johnson: 13 percent
Third-party candidate: 23 percent
Won’t vote: 7 percent

Active military personnel support Trump over Clinton, Sanders, new survey suggests
May 10, 2016
http://theweek.com/speedreads/623440/active-military-personnel-support-trump-over-clinton-sanders-new-survey-suggests

If the 2016 election were held just among active-duty military service members, reservists, and members of the National Guard, Donald Trump would win in a landslide, according to a new poll from Military Times. Trump beats Hillary Clinton, 54 percent to 25 percent, and Bernie Sanders, 51 percent to 38. More than 20 percent of respondents said they would not vote for either Clinton or Trump, while 11 percent would sit out Trump-Sanders.

Military Times survey: Troops prefer Trump to Clinton by a huge margin
— Military Times (@MilitaryTimes) May 9, 2016


43 posted on 07/21/2016 6:04:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: grundle

44 posted on 07/21/2016 6:04:54 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Nothing special re words "radical Islam"!, Nation of IsIam is just "Islam." NOI/ISIS equals murder!)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

How many of these Cruz supporters that got pissed off last night will flock to Johnson no? Enough to pass 15?


They don’t need many. Mormons, Branch Cruzidians, dopers, Bernsters, etc. could easily add up to 15%. This is real, IMO.


45 posted on 07/21/2016 6:05:50 PM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: grundle

I can’t imagine Manafort allowing this pot head idiot Johnson on the debate stage

It would be deja vu like ‘92 all over again.


46 posted on 07/21/2016 6:06:07 PM PDT by sheehan (DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS.)
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To: timestax

Thanks Timestax!

47 posted on 07/21/2016 6:07:25 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Nothing special re words "radical Islam"!, Nation of IsIam is just "Islam." NOI/ISIS equals murder!)
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To: grundle

So do you believe in this bs poll?


48 posted on 07/21/2016 6:08:25 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Nothing special re words "radical Islam"!, Nation of IsIam is just "Islam." NOI/ISIS equals murder!)
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To: grundle

Who the hell is Doctrine Man?

https://www.facebook.com/DoctrineMan/


49 posted on 07/21/2016 6:08:29 PM PDT by maggief
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To: DAC21

Sad that there are d-bags that actually collect a check for posting this drivel


50 posted on 07/21/2016 6:09:32 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Nothing special re words "radical Islam"!, Nation of IsIam is just "Islam." NOI/ISIS equals murder!)
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To: usafa92

OK - missed that, but FU with the moron comment. Did you try adding up the numbers in that poll - not much of one to actually refer to.


51 posted on 07/21/2016 6:10:06 PM PDT by utford
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I don’t believe this poll.


52 posted on 07/21/2016 6:10:24 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I am so very blessed! Thank You, JESUS!)
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To: grundle

I’m not buying it.


53 posted on 07/21/2016 6:10:51 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

The polls is BS. But I have no doubt that “Republicans” 4 Hillary will gin up Johnson to 15% and get him on the debate stage.


54 posted on 07/21/2016 6:13:51 PM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: grundle

I’m Active Duty, have been for just about 29 years...this poll is BS. BIGTIME.


55 posted on 07/21/2016 6:17:03 PM PDT by TheGunny
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To: lodi90

Hopefully Trump can make Johnson as irrelevent as he did the 16 other candidates he easily defeated.


56 posted on 07/21/2016 6:17:57 PM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: grundle

I don’t know about this poll, but I’ve been frustrated discussing politics with my nephew who is an active duty Marine. He is a Gary Johnson fan and hates Trump. I tried to reason with him that a vote for Johnson helps Hillary. I got nowhere. Makes me sad.


57 posted on 07/21/2016 6:23:24 PM PDT by ConservativeLawyer (Trump--A man with all the right enemies.)
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To: grundle

Come election day, just watch all these votes just disappear too!


58 posted on 07/21/2016 6:24:48 PM PDT by TMSuchman (Tis time to feed the Tree of Liberty again!!)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

none of my colleagues in uniform that I know are supporting Johnson. None. Zero. I know one GS civilian who is thinking about it. The only people I hear supporting Hillary are the females with excessively short haircuts.

Anecdotal, but it’s as scientific as the poll referenced.


59 posted on 07/21/2016 6:29:46 PM PDT by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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To: grundle

The only poll of military voters that has any credibility is the survey conducted by the Military Times newspapers. Their most recent results, published in May, gave Trump a 2:1 lead over Hillary. Johnson wasn’t mentioned; either he wasn’t an option or didn’t register in the results.

I’m retired military and I follow these surveys with a great deal of interest. Never heard of the poll cited in the article—reliability is extremely suspect.


60 posted on 07/21/2016 6:29:54 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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