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WHY I BECAME A PRETERIST
Prophecy Questions Blog ^ | April 10, 2024 | Charles Meek

Posted on 04/10/2024 5:22:37 PM PDT by grumpa

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1 posted on 04/10/2024 5:22:37 PM PDT by grumpa
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To: grumpa

On a scale of eternity, the last million years prior to the Second Coming can still be called the last days because it is still a short period when you are measuring eternity.


2 posted on 04/10/2024 5:39:10 PM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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To: grumpa

Fair enough but 7 is not an argument and 13 contradicts his 7.

Inn7 he’s trying to argue something based upon others being wrong or being charlatans. That’s not an argument for anything and is irrelevant for his argument.

In 13 he says he wants to follow the shepherd, not the sheep. That’s right, but 7 is doing just that in an inverse manner - going the opposite direction of sheep.

He should take out 7 as it’s not an argument and undercuts his 13.


3 posted on 04/10/2024 5:39:29 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: grumpa
I discovered that there are over 30 passages in Revelation that (a) demand fulfillment soon after being penned, and (b) Revelation does not introduce new concepts, but rather connects the events described there with the same ones mentioned elsewhere in the Bible.

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Then post them.

4 posted on 04/10/2024 5:44:43 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: grumpa

Here’s a discussion about eschatology: We’ll find out when the time comes. So chill.


5 posted on 04/10/2024 5:48:33 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: grumpa; aMorePerfectUnion
11. The Great White Throne Judgment. All those in hell will be brought forth, and all the wicked from all eras of history will be resurrected to stand before God in a final judgment (Revelation 20:11–15). The verdicts are read, and all of sinful humanity is cast into the lake of fire.

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Explain this one through your lens of "understanding".

6 posted on 04/10/2024 5:50:40 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

excerpt from my book re Revelation:

We will not attempt to cover every detail of Revelation. There are some 300 references in Revelation to the Old Testament, and the book ties everywhere to other parts of the New Testament. But we do want to get a solid understanding of the big picture. We will present some of the important time-reference texts for the reader’s consideration. We will also attempt to identify the major themes of the book.
Some two dozen passages in the book of Revelation tie the date
of the events of Revelation to first-century Israel, either (a) by specific 142 Christian Hope through Fulfilled Prophecy
time-reference, (b) by correlating to other texts that are limited by a time-reference (some of which we have studied in previous chapters), (c) by pointing specifically to Jerusalem or the nation of Israel, or (d) by being confirmed by actual historical accounts of first-century Jerusalem as the place and time of the apocalypse. Here is a list of such passages:

Revelation 1:1; 1:3; 1:7; 1:9-10; 1:19; 2:10; 2:16; 2:25; 3:10; 3:11; 4:1; 6:12-17; 8:13; 10:6-7; 11:2; 11:8; 11:15-19; 12:5; 14:7; 14:14-20; 15:5-8; 16:6; 16:19; 17:8; 18:19, 24; 20:7-10; 20:11-15; 22:6; 22:7; 22:10; 22:12; 22:20.

If the reader takes the time to look up each of these passages he will
note familiar language that we have already discussed. The passages
in bold specifically say that the events in view, including the Second Coming, were to happen soon or were near or were going to take place without delay (“must shortly take place.”). In addition, certain of these passages (1:19; 3:10; 8:13; 10:7; 12:5; 17:8) contain the Greek word mello,
which, as we have already noted, is translated in Young’s Literal Translation and in interlinear translations as “about to” (happen). These timetexts are definitive, and they are noteworthy by being consistent with the imminency passages in the rest of the New Testament. We strongly suggest that any eschatology that denies a plain literal interpretation
of the New Testament time-texts, has adopted an overly elastic and, frankly, unscriptural position that damages the Bible’s integrity.

Some interpreters believe that Revelation is to be divided into sections, some to near events and some to distant events. But we see imminency language and other references that tie to first-century Israel at the beginning, the middle, and the end of the book. Riley O’Brien Powell, on her website, comments:

The letter of Revelation itself says nothing about a shift in audience or subject matter. It says nothing about a delay in timing or a change in intended audience. EVER.. . .


7 posted on 04/10/2024 5:55:44 PM PDT by grumpa
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To: grumpa

Why is there still sin? Jesus said death will be thrown into the lake of fire. He also said he would wipe away every tear? When did this happen?


8 posted on 04/10/2024 5:59:27 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: grumpa

You’re saying the biggest anticipated event in all of human history....the Second Coming of Christ....has already happened??


9 posted on 04/10/2024 6:01:08 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: grumpa

Isaac Newton wasn’t a preterist.


10 posted on 04/10/2024 6:01:27 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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To: LukeL

“Why is there still sin?”

It’s only in heaven. See my article about this:

https://prophecyquestions.com/no-more-tears-death-or-suffering/


11 posted on 04/10/2024 6:06:20 PM PDT by grumpa
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To: grumpa
10‘Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. Rev 3:10.

Exegete this passage please.

12 posted on 04/10/2024 6:06:37 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: grumpa

Fool


13 posted on 04/10/2024 6:09:24 PM PDT by MAAG (The LORD does not choose sides, HE is a side.)
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To: ealgeone

Question about the Great White Throne judgment.

Preterists believe that was a comprehensive judgment that included judgment on apostate Israel and the dead in hades. Here’s my article about the General Resurrection:

https://prophecyquestions.com/the-general-resurrection-of-the-dead/


14 posted on 04/10/2024 6:09:44 PM PDT by grumpa
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To: ealgeone

from Chilton’s Days of Vengeance re Rev 3:10:

“it is speaking of the period of tribulation which was ABOUT TO COME. Does it make sense that Christ would promise the church in Philly protection from something that would happen thousands of years later?. . . .” (pg 129)


15 posted on 04/10/2024 6:15:42 PM PDT by grumpa
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To: grumpa
Insufficient answer.

I'm not giving your blog any hits and no one else is either.

You're saying this has already happened....that everyone has been judged and is now in the Lake of Fire??

I guess I should ask if you believe in a literal hell....do you?

Here's the passage. Exegete it please.

11Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. 12And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds. 14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

16 posted on 04/10/2024 6:16:03 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: grumpa

Prophecy is unfolding before our very eyes, and you come out with this???

You seem to be working overtime here...every day you are coming out with this kind of bs that pretty much says “Ignore the bible!... It’s meaningless!”....

Tell me this... WHEN WAS DAMASCUS DESTROYED??? Hmmmm???

That has not happened yet... Neither has the rapture... but it’s coming sooner than you think, and based on your posts, you will still be here going through it, talking about why you are a preterist.

Good luck with that.


17 posted on 04/10/2024 6:16:29 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: grumpa; LukeL
No one is interested in your article. Post your answers here.

This is the playground....you either put up or hush up.

18 posted on 04/10/2024 6:16:57 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: grumpa

Nope....I want YOUR exegesis of the passage.


19 posted on 04/10/2024 6:17:47 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

MWT judgment you want more. I refer you to my article “Making Sense of Revelation 20”:

https://prophecyquestions.com/making-sense-of-revelation-20/


20 posted on 04/10/2024 6:19:34 PM PDT by grumpa
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