Posted on 05/18/2023 5:04:16 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
The word “rapture” is not even in the Bible. It is an English word after all.
The Bible uses the Greek word “harpazo” which means to seize or snatch. The Latin is “raptus.” (I Thes. 4:16)
You clearly haven’t studied the bible, my friend.
1 Corinthians 15: 51-52 for starters
Many others, i’m happy to say. Start with that one however and look forward to our Blessed Hope!
Amen 🙏🏻!!!!
So are mine!
correct- We were judged already- AND then forgiven for our sins when we accepted Christ-
In heaven we will face the ‘Judgement seat of Christ- BUT,
the judgment seat of Christ is not punishment for the things we have not done that were good to do. Instead, we will be judged for the things that we have not done —unto God’s glory—
Those things that we failed to do for God’s glory will be burned up- folks may think they are doing good things for God- but deep down, they may do them for selfish purposes- or for advancement or whatever- These things will be judged and then burned up as worthless- and the person will lose crowns as a result- They will be shocked that their ‘works for good’ were found out and exposed as worthless because of the person’s inner intent-
others, who think they are worthless for Christ or who others think are backslidden because they ‘aren’t out there in the limelight doing great things for Christ”- Yet who help others that folks aroudn them won’t deign to help, ie say the down and out druggie- the Drunkard etc- who might the person brings a drunkard a blanket, or coat or give them a hot meal now and again- or whatever the case may be- These are the folks that will be rewarded more i think because they selflessly did things that brought honor to God even when they had no intention of doing so for reward-
Christians will not have to face the great white throne judgement where sins and deeds are judged- thankfully-
We just need to check our motives here on earth and make sure we are doing things for the glory of God - whatever those things might be- Some Christians will find they have done nothing of real importance for Christ while alive- and they will not get the rewards that other Christians who did all to the glory of Christ (regardless of how much they accomplish- ie the stay at home mom who hardly ever gets out to ‘do great Christian things” with others, yet who raises her kids up in Christ for the Glory of Christ will be rewarded handsomely me thinks right along with the missionary who gives up all to preach the word of God to the unsaved all their lives-
I Thessalonians 13-18.
Sorry. I Thessalonians 4:13-18.
Nice find...I appreciate your posts.
Such is the response from an amateur who’s done ZERO research into the Rapture Doctrine and gets his talking points from the ignorant (and possible heretics).
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God Bless You Mrs. Z!
Keep rolling your eyes.
You faithless folks have no idea what The Power of God entails, nor do you believe that He Saves His Children.
I put you guys in the same box as those who think “god is love” and will forgive all.
Neither group really knows Him, but you will one day.
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What is the judgment seat of Christ?
https://www.gotquestions.org/judgment-seat-Christ.html
It’ll be sobering for us all I imagine.
Such is the response from an amateur who’s done ZERO research into the Rapture Doctrine and gets his talking points from the ignorant (and possible heretics).
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Okay Rapture Man, if you say so. So what else have you discovered in your Crystal Ball? Are you one of those Pentecostal snake handlers? Be careful now because old Beelzebub will soon be coming after you. She feeds on fools like you, you know!
Actually dude, you are the one with the old serpent wrapped in your head telling you lies and willing to believe them.
Scripture is full of confirmation of what the Rapture is and how it will happen.
If you even cared to do 10 teeny minutes of research, your “Darby theory” would be crushed. But since you follow lies, and the father of lies - well your mind is made up.
Go back to sleep...
Agreed
We are on the same page and I used that word for ease of convenience but the fact is, the Bible says that upon Christ return we meet him in the air. After the dead of in Christ arise first. There is no secret rapture we are being prepared as Salt and Light to spread the gospel, especially during difficult times. Why in the world would God remove us right when it hits the fan?
Who is it who breaks the seals of the scroll?
There are no scriptures that support a secret early rapture. No matter what anyone tries to point to or parse, we are the bride of Christ and we are taken up at once at Christ’s return.
You asserted that the Tribulation was Satan's wrath. It is not. The Tribulation begins when Jesus starts breaking seals on the scroll. Does Christ need to slap his bride around just prior to the wedding feast?
——>Scripture is full of confirmation of what the Rapture is and how it will happen.
No, it’s not. There is only one second coming of Christ.
It is HISTORICAL FACT that John Darby tweaked Rapture information he received from Edward Irving/Margaret Macdonald, who he personally visited. Irving got his FUTURISM/Rapture information and ideas from a book by JESUIT Manuel De Lacunza, who built on the information written by JESUITS Francisco Ribera, Cardinal Robert Bellarmine, and Michael Walpole. It’s not even debatable. It’s historically documented FACT. FUTURISM was concocted by the Papacy to deflect Reformation criticism that they were the Antichrist power, which literally every single Reformer believed and saw as coming from bible prophecy. They also came up with the equally ridiculous theory of Preterism. Both were categorically rejected by the Reformers as total crap, which is what the PTR doctrine is. It is a lie, propagated by the Papacy.
And here comes one of my favorite guys, Theologian and author Samuel Prideaux Tregelles, who personally witnessed the utterances of Margaret Macdonald, in Edward Irving’s church. He said this (and actually much more):
“I am not aware that there was any definite teaching that there would be a SECRET RAPTURE of the Church at a secret coming, until this was given forth as an utterance in Mr. Irving’s Church, from what was there received as being the voice of the Spirit. But whether any one ever asserted such a thing or not, it was from that supposed revelation that the modern doctrine and the modern phraseology respecting it arose. It came not from Holy Scripture, but from that which falsely pretended to be the Spirit of God, while not owning the true doctrine of our Lord’s incarnation in the same flesh and blood as His brethren, but without taint of sin. p. 26.”
The Hope of Christ’s Second Coming: How is it Taught in Scripture? And Why? S. P. Tregelles. March 17, 1864.
§ VIII. (p.23.)
“But there is a very different theory of the coming of the Lord as the hope of His Church, which many teach, and which many more receive, as though it were unquestioned truth.”
“It is said that there shall be a SECRET coming of the Lord Jesus Christ; that at this SECRET coming His believing people who are in their graves shall be raised, and the living changed, and that a secret rapture of the Church shall then take place; that this SECRET coming and SECRET rapture are our hope, and not the manifested appearing of Christ in the clouds of heaven.”
“It is said that after this SECRET removal of the Church, the full manifestation of human evil, for some years at least, will take place, during which time shall be the display of the power of Antichrist,—the persecutions foretold in the Revelation, the extreme trials of Israel, the unequaled tribulation,—and that the end of this will be the manifestation of Christ visibly coming with His Church in the cloud of glory.”
“This is the doctrine of the SECRET coming of Christ, which many now preach as if it were the acknowledged truth of God, instead of its being (as is really the case) that which at every point would require proof from Scripture.”
“But not only is this doctrine of the coming of Christ not taught in the Word of God, but if, in what has been previously said, there is any point of truth, then this whole system stands in distinct contradiction of what the Scripture reveals.”
——>If you even cared to do 10 teeny minutes of research....
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