If someone claims to be an apostle and teaches a "new" gospel, then it becomes a "new" religion, not the same as Jesus taught. Since Scripture says God is unchanging, then the sender wasn't God. A "new" revelation is fine as long as it agrees with the 1st revelation. If a prophesy is made and it doesn't come to pass, should we kill them?
Making sodomy acceptable to God messes up much of the purpose of the Bible if Jesus used "as it was in the days of Lot", as a descriptor of His imminent return. The days of Noah describes extensive violence. As I watch trucks running over people on sidewalks and 50 people being shot watching a concert for no reason, One might forget the millions of babies murdered in the womb with almost no fanfare each year.
We don't need a new apostle giving us new revelation if it disagrees with the old apostles and the old revelation.
As an example, a church I actually attended, voted in a new pastor after the old one left. I had been there probably about 7 years. The new guy preached fairly good sermons, but periodically would put some statement in I found fault with. As time went on, I found out he was enamored with Bill Johnson. I was the Sunday school teacher there and he gave me several books to read by Johnson. The books were alarming for me, but I didn't get too upset. As he gave me another book, I told him I had enough to read in the Bible to keep me busy for a lifetime. A couple of weeks later, he dissolved Sunday School. Said he need more time to preach and still get out for lunch. Later, he was overheard saying those over 55 yo should just leave to get rid of the Pharisees in the church. We were too judgmental.
Then one day he was giving his sermon and claimed that Jesus was NOT GOD until he was baptized by John in the river. He gave another sermon where Jesus met the woman at the well and he claimed Jesus didn't know why he stopped at the well. He was just tired and needed water. Well, I was taught that Jesus was the Son of God when He was born of Mary because the angel said so then. If Jesus is God, He is Omniscient. If Jesus is God, He is the Word spoken of in John 1. If he is the Word, He wrote the Bible. He surely knows what's in it and why it's there.
I left.
I hear from other members that they are looking for falling gold dust and feathers falling from the ceiling of the church now. This all came about over the period of 2-3 years. Upon further study, I found out California has sent 7-8 "missionaries" that meet in a town about 75 miles from my town and they have spread this same message to 20-30 churches in East Texas now. This has gotten bigger than a few outliers. Many now are selling DVD courses and you can visit the Redmond base church for courses if you pay. These courses are as much as $4500 for about 6 weeks. IMO, this has surpassed the idea of a cult and gone on to a denomination. They generally use music to draw in the young people. I recently found a worship team I love called "Upper Room" in Dallas, and the first sermon I heard was straight out of Bill Johnson's playbook. It's way past time for an expose on 60 minutes. There are too many today that have NO IDEA what's in Scripture.
Today, there remains about 8-12 left from about 150. Those that come, come from as far as 60-70 miles away. I don't know how they keep the lights on. I've also heard he has preached whole sermons out of a Bill Johnson book with no scripture to back it up. He quoted Johnson from the pulpit. I knew Bill Johnson was a problem, but I didn't know there were more.
Just as another aside, Todd White used to go there in Bethel, but recently is found in Gateway church in Dallas. I love Gateway, but they have 5-6 campuses and many tens of thousands of members with BIG names going there. I can't discern if Todd left BECAUSE of error, or if he came to spread "Bill Johnson". He has been used as a preacher a few times. I hate to be suspicious but it's almost like cancer and I've seen it first hand. I can't believe Robert Morris would release the pulpit to a usurper.
The reason these NAR churches stay in business is that their corporate entities all “tithe” to each other, church entity to church entity, thereby getting around the problem of individual church members voluntarily supporting the “laborer (of the Word) who deserves his wages”.
That’s what I witnessed in my former NAR church. I imagine this practice is widespread and you can understand the corruption that stems from a “church entity” tithing to another “church entity”, instead of the preacher relying upon voluntary donations of people to those leaders who feed them spiritually.
Ponzi schemes like this betray all false teachers/false prophets.
But then it isn’t really a new revelation then, is it?
And it also isn’t needed either since we already have the old revelation to reveal it to us.
So if the new revelation is already in Scripture, it’s redundent, therefore not needed and can be ignored, and if it doesn’t agree with Scripture, then we know it’s not from God and again, can be ignored.
Very interesting testimony.
I know another person who used to be in Benny Hinn’s church before he went off the rails.
This person said that the church went from a warm, loving, Spirit-filled congregation to ice cold demonic.(His descriptive words)
They left the church as did many of the godly members.