Posted on 04/15/2018 11:06:01 AM PDT by marshmallow
You cannot get approval from homosexuals without loving their sin.
When Paul listed off those who will cannot enter the Kingdom he immediately followed it up with saying and such WERE some of you.
But if you examine the cultural myths about homosexuality you find it is often seen as the critical component of their very sense of identity, who they think they really are at their most basic level.
And those who fall for all this PC crap are very likely to agree.
So when they say they are born that way, or whatever equivalent claim they may make, and that is why they have nothing to repent of (etc) these people are upfront contradicting Scripture.
But more, in making it out that they cannot repent, not just that they need not but cannot, they are making their sin out to be bigger and stronger than God.
At the bottom of it is identity.
A Christian who has repented has the Holy Spirit and is already a new creature. The old body of death lingers still and it wants us to obey it and not the Holy Spirit but the full and total of our identity is “in Christ”.
Yet here we see people who think that their essential identity, or the identity of homosexuals, is “homosexual”.
There are NO homosexual Christians. There may be repentant Christians who are for the moment confused and who think that just because the body of death may still wants back door follies that they are still somehow having an identity that is homosexual and there may be unrepentant homosexuals who for whatever cause seek the Christian label, but all of that is confusion ... not identity.
“In Christ” is Christian, that is our identity, the underlying fact of our existence, no matter what our transient moral issues. The Holy Spirit does not share the throne, and when the body of death is finally gone there will be no more confusion possible.
But for those who Paul might say are in a such are you still category, their doom is still looming upon them ... unless, of course, they repent.
But if when we call for repentance a person hears in that a demand to give up who they think they really are, their very sense of self, how can they be brought to repentance?
With man, of course, this is impossible. And it certainly isn’t gonna happen if so-called “Christians” go about respecting and honoring sin and not the Savior and so turn their backs on the knowledge of God.
But we are not those who think either sin or the culture is greater than God, so we know the impossible sometimes happens. Probably more than we know.
I know of a house owned by a professing Christian who is a member of an EC church. Said house has a Buddha statute in the garden (there at the time of purchase). If the owner is a Christian, that Buddha statue should be removed.
The entire witness of scripture and Christian tradition and practice is against them. Their decades of faithlessness on other matters has gotten them to where they are today — preparing to wreck what’s left of the church to cater to the sexual aberrations of 2% of the population.
I expect that some of us here may live long enough to see the EC vanish. They probably will want to keep the National Cathedral open as a museum or something, and it is a pretty cool venue for patriotic events.
Your analysis is spot on.
I've known some of the "wheels" in the ACNA leadership. Many of them have "Justin Welby Disease". They may hold strong personal convictions; however they are too timid to come down foursquare on the side of orthodoxy. They may not like ordination of women, but they are lacking in the courage to say "NO!".
The fact that some ACNA affiliates permit ordination of women does not bode well for the future.
I see the future of orthodox Anglicanism in the US as in the hands some of the independent parishes and some of the affiliate denominations who retain a strong bible based orthodox belief. I see the ACNA going the way of mush.
It is interesting to note that majority of Anglicans in the world are African, and to a one, they are solid in traditional belief.
I like your optimism!
But personally I believe the presiding bishop will willingly turn it into a mosque, good Dhimmis that they are.
I know just the fellas to do the job.
before and after, the Buddhas of Bamiyan
Heh.
Tighten screws? A little late aren’t they.
The Presbyterian Church (USA) embraced homo marriage a few years ago. They are rapidly dying off.
As a Catholic I can only feel sorrow for the way the libs have destroyed these kirks. They are already using these “examples” to attack orthodox Churches including the Catholic church
I have great compassion for Christians stuck between their love of the people and the history of a particular church and their love of Christ and the truth. Some will say that it’s an easy decision, that they should just up and leave.
But that’s not the first thing people think. They think to fight for the faith once delivered to the saints.
What has been hard for us, and I include myself and my UMC in that, is knowing when we’ve lost. We always see another opening, another opportunity, so we fight on.
Sadly, I believe now that the bishops of the UMC are working to undermine the separation talks now underway...so as to leave us with no real choice about lgbtq.
In a few months, I believe we’ll know for once and for sure if we’ve lost.
I’m torn then. I truly don’t want to enter another denomination that is itself going down a pathway I know too well. Yet, at the same time, I believe the Lord wants us to be part of a church.
Lord Jesus, be merciful to me, a sinner
May God help us all
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