Posted on 03/17/2018 6:16:06 PM PDT by pcottraux
Well, y'know...I was already at a pretty high word count and wanted to stay on topic.
That said, I try not to just write my opinions but encourage people to comment on it themselves so we can get an interesting discussion going--then if there's anything I left out (such as those aspects of Newton's mindset), it can be brought to the table.
To be honest with you, I wonder that about theoretical physics as a whole sometimes. I mean, I'm sure *some* of it can be tested and verified, but by definition, isn't a large chunk of it just guesswork or unprovable theories?
Thanks, I didn't want to attack him personally for any reason (though a few have let me know I could have been tougher on him, lol). My thinking wasn't so much to condemn him or anything, but that the biggest smackdown possible would be to critique his SCIENCE. If there were holes in his proposed models that he claimed got him around the need for God, then that needs to be exposed more than his personal life.
Great explanation. I think what has caused the animosity between science and religion is that for most of recorded history people subscribed everything to the supernatural. Then science comes along and says, no diseases are caused by germs and viruses not demons. Weather patterns are caused by natural occurrences not by the god(s) being angry.
Even now there are people that believe the earth is only 6,000-4,000 years old. Even though all the evidence we have from science(and I mean all the sciences;biology, chemistry, geology, and physics) says its much older.
I dont see how science could ever prove the existence or non-existence of a god or gods through science. It has to be taken on faith.
Heh - “The writer”. I didn’t realize it was you! Nice article! My dad knew a guy that was one of the developers of radar back in WWII, and also a strong Christian. My dad (strong Christian) asked him if his science and his faith ever got in the way of each other. “Oh no! The more I learn in the sciences, it only confirms my belief in an all-powerful, all-knowing God.”
Right, you can’t prove or disprove God through science, because science and religion are two different methodologies. One requires observation and fact, the other requires faith, and you can’t interchange them and be true to the methodology. One atheist told me that since no one can prove God exists, that’s proof he doesn’t exist. Really? No one knew about germs a couple centuries ago. Does that mean they don’t exist?
Thank you.
I demonstrate that by following Jesus’s teachings one can increase the action potential firing rate in the brain neurons and increase the frequency of consciousness to where thoughts and the consciousness of others becomes physical to your perception.
By tuning it even higher with prayer and meditation one can perceive the Holy Spirit and Jesus.
The process is simple to understand and demonstrate but a bit difficult to let go of the old anchors and ballast of ego life to attain.
It’s happening soon for most as we are in the springtime of soul growth.
Science can definitely prove God exists, but not by scientists that have not transcended self and experienced God.
God is beyond their comprehension as He is beyond description with words.
I’ve experienced God and don’t want to be here in this body any more. I want to go home.
Boy, are you in luck. Nobody in the history of mankind has been screwed out of dying.
It’s more than dying. I already did that in 1988. There are many levels of Heaven.
Not everyone who dies experiences God.
I’ve also been shown what you’d call miracles, but that is not scientific proof. Science doesn’t even include ‘proof’ as part of the scientific method. Evidence, however, must be something that you can repeat under controlled conditions, like in a laboratory. You can’t fit God into a laboratory, however, so God is beyond our current definition of science.
I don’t know why they could not convert. Maybe one can quench the Holy Spirit and it become a permanent thing. Maybe as you suggest the repentance is only used as a safe bet and lacks true humility. Those people whose death bed conversions did not result in grace and mercy is chilling.
For me, science is the process of gaining understanding of “How God Works.”
That's okay. I'm thrilled to have been mistaken for a professional writer instead of the total imposter that I truly am. :)
That’s a very interesting way of putting it, thank you!
Which reminds me of something. I’ve heard that science is just another path to God: that you can understand God by understanding what he created, and not just the Bible and so forth. However, can you really understand Rembrandt or da Vinci by their paintings? Or Edison by the light bulb? Wouldn’t it be better to study their writings if that was your purpose?
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“However, can you really understand Rembrandt or da Vinci by their paintings? Or Edison by the light bulb? Wouldnt it be better to study their writings if that was your purpose?”
I imagine that BOTH are important. I’m not sure how much Edison wrote - but I imagine some of it is pretty technical and pretty dry. Some is probably his thoughts and dreams - many I suppose that were never realized. On the other hand - just switching on a light in the kitchen is no big deal all by itself.
BUT - go through Edison museum down in Florida (Ft. Meyers? It’s been years) and go through it and read about him and all of his variety of efforts - and then see a light bulb that has been burning there and left on for 60 years or whatever - that is something, and gives one a sense of amazement of who Edison was and what he did.
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