Posted on 12/17/2017 1:17:19 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
One of the greatest evidences that there is a God -- to whom we owe our very lives, and whose Word we are to follow -- is the mere existence of a nation called Israel. Thus the rampant hatred for the children of Abraham. Nevertheless, science again makes clear what Scripture long ago revealed.
A 60 Minutes episode from 2000 -- for which I have a transcript -- reported on a genetics study that revealed a “priestly Y-chromosome” among the general Jewish population. In other words, all those who claimed to be Jewish priests (only males) shared a common male ancestor. As Lesley Stahl reported, “The results proved that Jewish priests from all around the world are, in fact, descended from one single man, a common paternal ancestor somewhere back in time.”
To tease her listening audience, Stahl asked, “How long ago did this great, great, great-grandfather live?” The scientist she was interviewing provided the answer: 3,000 years ago. In other words, right in line with the timeline presented by the Bible for when Moses’ brother Aaron -- the patriarch of the Jewish priesthood -- lived.
Likewise, in the year 2000, a study widely reported on revealed that the Jews and the Arabs shared a common genetic heritage. The study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, looked at the Y-chromosome -- which passed directly and unaltered from father to son -- of male Jews and Arabs and found that they shared “ common set of genetic signatures.”
This should come as no surprise to anyone who knows -- and believes -- Scripture. The first two sons of Abraham were Ishmael -- the son of Hagar and the patriarch of the Arabs -- and Isaac, the son of Sarah and patriarch of the Jews.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Right, but the article implied that it was something modern, so that was the assumption I was operating under.
Thats funny Marv but there is truth to that snarky comment...having worlked on 47th street for eight years with Israeli partners there and São Paulo and done business in Raman Gan many times I am pretty familiar with Israel and how Yankee Jews feel about her and probably have more time in Israel than the average American Jew ever will and that is precisely why i support Israel for practical personal reasons more than for end times good luck charm reasons and also why I know the notion American Jews hate Israel is claptrap...they mostly prefer Labor over Likud but they don't hate Israel except for a few wacky outliers....Happy Chanukah Marv
“One of the greatest evidences that there is a God — to whom we owe our very lives, and whose Word we are to follow — is the mere existence of a nation called Israel. Thus the rampant hatred for the children of Abraham.”
A very solid statement.
Thanks the lowdown on Jews.
Another great evidence is that those who don’t believe in God, or are unwilling to fully accept God, know in their hearts of the ongoing sin that keeps God out.
Scripture shows us that repentance is part of following the Lord, and that loving sin gets in the way of repentance.
This can be examined privately in a strategic, factual manner, apart from passion.
They just don’t love fest over Israel like end times obsessed hageeist Christians do
I’m ambivalent
My support of Israel is more secular and practical fair play oriented
Than end times talisman
It’s just weird to me....no offense...not that I don’t trust Revelations or that last John feller
And there the Bible thing but I’m more ambivalent about that than most freepers
Well . . . no one can say you're not honest. It's about time some "palaeos" came forward to admit that they're not religious fundamentalists (as the atheists on the left like to claim).
"Palaeos" regard religion as merely one factor among many in one's ethno-racial identity, and it is the latter, not the former, that is the center of their worldview. Many of them (like Sam Francis, Ben Klassen, and Revilo P. Oliver) have been atheists. Their moral traditionalism is as groundless as the "social justice" crusades of the leftists because they don't hold their beliefs out of submission to G-d but for some other reason.
This is why the ancient world was so superior to either the modern or the medieval world. In the ancient world there was no concept of "religion" as one aspect of reality among many others. The "gxds" (or in the Jewish sense the One True G-d) was the ultimate reality in an unbroken continuum of reality, not one tiny little tile in a giant mosaic. Furthermore what we call "religion" was not a matter of private opinion or "faith" but of law (and in Judaism, absolute certitude). There was no "offer of salvation" and no "freedom of religion" but rather commandment and statutory obligation. Classical chrstianity made a division between G-d and Caesar, the "city of G-d" and the "city of man"--the "enlightenment" merely took these to their ultimate conclusion.
And now we have chrstian "conservatives" hitting the idea of Theocracy over the head with the critiques of Voltaire, Paine, and Jefferson and worshiping and exalting "western civilization" over G-d A-mighty Himself, as if G-d were an "idea" some particular civilization had come up with. We are being punished for this idolatry at this moment with more punishment on the way if we don't get our priorities straight. G-d doesn't need white people, Europe, or "western civilization." Rather they need G-D. Yet the more secularism we face (secularism being the natural outcome of the creation of "religion" as a separate category) the more bowing and scraping to "western civilization" conservatives engage in. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
My friend Hrvatski Noahid, the only true ally I've ever had on this forum, has been banned for merely defending the Truth. I don't suppose I will be permitted to post here much longer.
That's not why he was banned. At least you don't overtly mock and denigrate Christianity and Christians. Smart thinking seeing as this is a pro-God, pro-Christianity website - something your noob friend apparently didn't understand and which you failed to explain to him. I think JR is very tolerant of other religious views as long as there is mutual respect.
I wonder what was in a couple of deleted comments.
There's also possibility (I admit I didn't check before writing this) that it was a suspension rather than out-right ban?
My friend Hrvatski Noahid, the only true ally I've ever had on this forum, has been banned for merely defending the Truth. I don't suppose I will be permitted to post here much longer.
That's not why he was banned. At least you don't overtly mock and denigrate Christianity and Christians. Smart thinking seeing as this is a pro-God, pro-Christianity website - something your noob friend apparently didn't understand and which you failed to explain to him. I think JR is very tolerant of other religious views as long as there is mutual respect.
I will admit that JR has been very tolerant of me. As for mocking or denigrating chrstians, I have seen no post of Hrvatski Noahid doing so--only pointing out that chrstianity is a false religion and defending this position as well as the position that what used to be the One True Religion (Judaism/Noachism) is still the One True Religion. Does no one but me see the irony in "conservatives" defending a radical, revolutionary innovation as the "conservative" foundation of civilization???
Furthermore HN is much more learned than I (he has learned much more systematically than I have; I've picked up stuff here and there over a lifetime), and he was less emotional and more logical. So I don't see where the "mocking" and "denigrating" came in. But I suppose if you have no answer, any argument seems like mockery and denigration. And I have never read on this forum any proof of chrstianity other than to endlessly quote its own claims about itself, as if they were self-verifying. If quoting the "book of mormon" doesn't "prove" mormonism, why in the sam hill does everyone assume that quoting the "new testament" somehow proves it is true?
I assure you that I am quite certain that chrstianity is a false religion. It is false because it is new. How in the world "conservatives" or "right wingers" can consider the retention of the original religion some sort of "revolutionary spirit" is beyond me. Most chrstians can't even read the Bible in the first place (since it cannot be translated). How in the sam hill can they actually claim to understand the Holy Torah more than the people who received it at Sinai, who studied it under Moses and Aaron for forty years, and who have the rules and regulations that enable them to hand write copies in such a way that they are identical to the First Scroll? The very idea is ludicrous on its face.
As for being pro-G-d and pro-chrstian, I assure you that I am very much pro-G-d--certainly more pro-G-d than people who condemn islam, not because it is false, but because it violates Thomas Jefferson's "enlightenment" philosophy. Most so-called "chrstian conservatives" sound just like the ACLU when they criticize islam. Do they think that Joshua wasn't really commanded to exterminate all the Canaanites because "G-d would never do such a thing?" I'm afraid that ancient Biblical Judaism is much closer to islam than it is to chrstianity--especially the "enlightened," tolerant, Protestant kind.
Furthermore, being pro-G-d has nothing whatsoever to do with being pro-chrstianity. Most Americans are chrstians because it's "the American religion." But there is no "American religion." There is only truth and falsehood. And in determining this truth, the authority of one's ancestors is exactly zero. Where do so many so-called "supporters of objective truth" get the idea that the first duty of every person is to belong to the traditional religion of his homeland, whatever it may be? That sounds like "palaeoconservative" idolatry or maybe Freemasonry--not a belief in Objective Truth.
Furthermore, if American is a "chrstian nation" and not being a chrstian is somehow un-American and un-conservative, isn't America also a Protestant nation? Yet FR Catholics constantly attack Protestantism and the founder of Protestantism in the vilest terms. Why aren't they banned for being "un-American?" To Torah Jews and Noachides J*sus was merely the Jewish Martin Luther. Why is it perfectly understandable for Catholics to oppose Luther in the strongest terms but completely beyond the pale when Jews and Noachides feel the exact same way about J*sus?
Furthermore the Catholics on this site promote evolution and higher criticism (and the few Catholics who claim to be against those things never seem to say anything) and have excoriated Fundamentalist Protestants with the vilest of ethnic slurs: brain-dead bibliolators, Cletus, snake-handlers, bobble-toters, Billy Bob's Glory Barn, bigots, ignorant, etc. Yet somehow the very "un-American" religion of Catholicism (and that of Eastern Orthodoxy as well) are considered honorary good ole boys. If the whole purpose of FR is to defend and propagate the Traditional American Religion and nothing else, shouldn't every Catholic and Eastern Orthodox be banned when they say these things?
Unlike the FRoman Catholics, I assure you that HN believed every word of the Torah was from G-d--not from supposed stone age savages who didn't really hear from G-d at all but only attributed their own genocidal savagery onto G-d, claiming He had ordered their destruction when He allegedly really didn't!
The vast majority of the chrstians of the world are highfalutin' Grecophile intellectuals who look down on American Fundamentalists as congenitally retarded and who subscribe to evolution and "theistic" evolution because "that stuff isn't important." Even C.S. Lewis, whom so many American Fundamentalist inexplicably worship filled his chrstian stories with pagan "gxds" and myths and believed in evolution (even calling J*sus the "next step in human evolution").
So no . . . I don't know why HN was banned from this site, especially when there are still anti-Semites here who continually to post the vilest and most Nazi-type attacks on `Am Yisra'el without even a slap on the wrist, even though anti-Semitism is officially "against the rules" here.
Nobody's perfect. I'm not perfect, HN wasn't perfect--but neither are the mods. I regard HN's banning unfair. But I acknowledge that JR owns the site and has the right to ban anyone for any reason whatsoever. I just don't know how much longer I'll last here now.
I do my best to defend the Truth but I don't do as good a job as HN. I shall continue to do my very inferior best as long as I am permitted to post here.
That's not why he was banned.
I wonder what was in a couple of deleted comments.
There's also possibility (I admit I didn't check before writing this) that it was a suspension rather than out-right ban?
He told me he had been banned and couldn't even contact me here any more.
Hrvatski Noahid only had one weakness: he was from a very Catholic country (Croatia) and had no knowledge of the internal logic of Protestantism (especially American Fundamentalist Protestantism) at all. He knew only Catholicism, and his arguments against Protestantism were the same as his arguments against Catholicism--something that is simply inadequate. The one area where I am more knowledgeable than he is my growing up in the American Bible Belt. And I doubt that anyone who didn't grow up in that milieu can ever understand it.
Oh well. At least American Fundamentalist Protestants have a country now that is so bereft of their presence that they could probably move there and become a protected left wing urban minority group!
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