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The Pope and Jus soli: He will have to answer to history and God
Rorate Caeli ^ | August 21, 2017 | Chiesa e Post Concilio

Posted on 08/22/2017 12:09:43 PM PDT by ebb tide

The Pope and Jus soli: He will have to answer to history and God

Chiesa e Post Concilio
August 21, 2017

The Pope and Jus soli: 
Political interference -- Francis will have to answer to history and God

A position that will inevitably trigger off much debate. In his message for The World Day of Immigrants and Refugees, to be celebrated  on January 14, Pope Francis has explicitly sided in favour of jus soli: “At the moment of birth, nationality and regular access to primary and secondary education  should be recognized and certified.” Bergoglio has also shown his support for jus culturae inasmuch as he has asked for the recognition of the right to complete an educational path in the host country. 

Psychiatrist, Dr. Alessandro Meluzzi,  who was interviewed by Intelligonews, has harshly criticized what the Pope said:

What do you think of the Pope’s appeal in favour of jus soli?

“I think the Pope should talk about jus soli in Vatican City. There he could distribute passports to all the people he wanted, seeing as it is a Sovereign State.  As regards citizenship in the Italian Republic, on the contrary,  I find  this an improper and very serious interference since the Law of Papal Guarantees (1877).”

Why?

"It is difficult to understand why the Head of a State hosted in Italian territory should  voice an opinion on jus soli in Italy. He could say the same about jus soli in France, in Spain or in any other country the Catholic Church is represented.  In any case, jus soli is a monstrosity at a time of indiscriminate, violent and dangerous Afro-Islamic  invasion. Beyond the specific content, which would bring about never-ending problems, it would be an ulterior impetus for millions of people to come to Italy uncontrolled. Therefore it is wrong, dangerous, illegitimate and would lead to fatal consequences in a [situation of] demographic pressure already out of control."

On other questions, such as civil unions, the Pope has said: “I won’t get involved with that”. How do you explain this change?

“Bergoglio isn’t interested in Ratzinger’s so-called non-negotiable values. I’m referring here to gender, the family and abortion, which he considers “very negotiable” questions; instead the great leftist globalists like Soros are at the centre of his pontificate.  The only outcome [of all this] will be the Islamisation of Europe and Italy. I don’ think this is a good idea for a Pope. He will have to answer to history for this and more than likely to God [Himself].”

Translation: Contributor Francesca Romana


TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: francischurch; homos; illegals

1 posted on 08/22/2017 12:09:43 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

This isn’t “just” jus soli, it’s a whole full fledged socialist worldview.

Yeah, I am a crazy evangelical. But if Jesus wanted any part of the church to try to do this, I sure missed it in the bible. Directions for how the community of believers ought to act, are NOT directions for how they should lean on secular countries to act!


2 posted on 08/22/2017 12:17:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Yeah, I am a crazy evangelical.”

You don’t sound crazy to me. I’m Catholic, and I assure you what this Pope is talking about is NOT Catholicism or biblical Christianity (as you know). Pope Francis is crazy or evil or both.


3 posted on 08/22/2017 12:36:49 PM PDT by utahagen (but but)
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To: utahagen
I vote for “Both”.
4 posted on 08/22/2017 12:49:09 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to vitrory !!)
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To: ebb tide
“Bergoglio isn’t interested in Ratzinger’s so-called non-negotiable values. They are PROPERLY called 'non-negotiable" because that is EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE! (and should always remain so...)
5 posted on 08/22/2017 1:51:09 PM PDT by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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To: ebb tide

I was just thinking about this exact thing the other day.

As a Catholic, I demand citizenship in Vatican City.

At least I have a qualification.


6 posted on 08/22/2017 2:14:25 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
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To: utahagen

It’s kind of what happens when the idea of mixing church and state affairs is taken to its extreme and given a hard left spin.

Well at the least it serves as a reductio ad absurdam for that line of theology.

At best Francis has skipped a step. Get a society of believers. THEN we can talk about it making Christian sacrifices. And even yet that will be a matter of individual Christian consciences before God.


7 posted on 08/22/2017 4:53:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: BlessedBeGod

I don’t blame you folks in the Roman church at all for doing this.

“Peter” badly needs a “Paul.”


8 posted on 08/22/2017 4:55:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I had to look up "Jus soli" and found out it means, basically, birthright citizenship: if you're born in a country, no matter your parentage or the legality or whatever the circumstances, you're a citizen of that country. According to Wikipedia it is very much a minority stand among the nations of the world:

Jus soli... As an unconditional basis for citizenship, it is the predominant rule in the Americas, but is rare elsewhere. [No European country practices Jus Soli, and...] only 30 of the world's 194 countries grant citizenship at birth to the children of undocumented foreign residents...

Almost all states in Europe, Asia, Africa, and Oceania grant citizenship at birth based upon the principle of jus sanguinis (right of blood), in which citizenship is inherited through parents not by birthplace, or a restricted version of jus soli in which citizenship by birthplace is automatic only for the children of certain immigrants.

Of course, the State of Vatican City does not practice Jus Soli! It's one of the most restrictive countries in the world in terms of legal citizenship..

9 posted on 08/22/2017 6:04:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child who's got his own." - Billie Holliday)
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Jus soli!
10 posted on 08/22/2017 6:28:06 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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