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"Catholics Will Have to Decide Whether They Guard the Faith Over Papolatry"
Gloria TV ^ | July 17, 2017 | Gloria TV

Posted on 07/17/2017 8:08:32 AM PDT by ebb tide

“Francis is more interested in leftwing politics than in Catholic theology”, George Neumayr, contributing editor of The American Spectator, states talking to Tom Woods on July 14th on tomwoods.com. Woods describes Francis as a result of John Paul II who - as he puts it - appointed "absolutely terrible people" as bishops: "Catholics have suffered under Bergoglios for decades now”.

Neumayr agrees that a lot of the liberal bishops were appointed by John Paul II and Benedict XVI. He sees Francis as the “culmination of a century” of liberalism and modernism in the Church.

For him it is "highly unlikely" that Francis, who in his theology is “more a Protestant than a Catholic” will convert to Catholicism. Instead, the realistic scenario is that Francis will produce division and chaos, "Catholics will have to decide whether they guard the faith over papolatry.”

And: “The Cardinals have to declare that Francis is a bad pope who must be resisted.”


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: francischurch; protestants
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Quotes from the link to save readers time...

"Rood poses as a Christian minister and claims to have references from several churches. In fact, most of these references have been shown to be false. For example, Rood attempted to gain followers from Alliance churches in northern Minnesota. The District Office of Alliance churches in that area wrote a letter outlining Rood's false teachings and warning Alliance members to avoid him:

"According to Rev. Misener this group is very deceptive in how they approach churches and individuals. 'At first glance this group appears harmless,' Rev. Misener stated, 'But once you sit down and dig into their doctrinal stands they become pretty destructive. While they call themselves a Messianic Jewish movement similar to Jews for Jesus, they are far from that. They actually teach that unless we return to the observance of the Sabbath on Saturday, and the celebration of the Jewish festivals we are an abomination to the Lord. It's like reading from the Book of Galatians where the Judaisers came in and told the Gentiles they need to observe all Jewish traditions and laws. In fact... this group would not consider evangelicals to be Christians at all. And they are VERY secretive about their belief system.'" (The Alliance Echo, quoted in the newsletter of the Hibbing, MN, CMA church newsletter, Nov. 1998)

The Two Harbors Ministerial Committee also published a flyer warning that Rood's group was aberrational. The churches also discovered that the churches and ministers Rood gave as references were false-- they either did not know Rood or did not approve of his ministry.

**Rood claims that he alone teaches accurately and that following him and his teachings is the way out of deception. His web site offered a package of his teachings to help people "get back to the Lord." It asserted that Rood's teachings would get people "out of Babylon" (www.6001.com/product1, 9-10-99). He promoted his teachings on the Hebrew festivals as "greater... than any available on the planet." He is the one who can reveal "the mystery" that the Christian church is too deceived to recognize. He often uses words like "mystery" and "unknown" to attract others' curiosity and imply that he knows what few others do. He likes to say that his teachings are so different that they are "a Rood awakening" to people.

**Rood repeatedly inflates his accomplishments, ability and importance. In an advertisement for his seminar on Revelation, Bible Prophecy and the New World Order, he claimed that when he was a Marine, the whole Marine battalion on a ship gathered at the same time to hear him speak on the return of Christ which led to "the largest number of Marines since WWII" being baptized at once. His claims to be an ordained Christian minister and Messianic rabbi are also misrepresentations. The Lubbock brochure mentioned above is not the only time he claimed to be a trained minister in a denomination. He said, "I was an energetic exponent of the teachings of my church and theological institutions. I had a... denomination to protect.... Just because a denomination is in the mainstream of modern Christianity...." (Mystery of Iniquity, p. 23). Readers are led to believe that Rood was affiliated with a mainstream denomination and theological institution, when his involvement in a cultic group was actually far from that. Rood repeatedly claims that respected people in certain comunities approve of his ministry when in fact they do not. Several ministers in the northern Minnesota area report that Rood falsely claimed their support in order to gain a hearing from people. Once Rood spoke at a seminar at which minister and former pro football player Reggie White spoke. Soon thereafter, Rood's web site said that White supported Rood's ministry, when in fact White did not. This claim was soon removed from Rood's web site.


1,001 posted on 07/24/2017 8:45:09 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

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Wake up!

I have never named anyone as a “false teacher.”

The Holy Spirit goads one to accuse the false doctrine, not individuals.

I always stick with scripture and doctrine. If that makes you uncomfortable, that is for you to deal with.

Example: “Saved by Grace” is a false doctrine that is not presented in scripture. Salvation is through enduring Faith.
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1,002 posted on 07/24/2017 8:50:13 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

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Perfect examples of allowing one’s self to be fooled by the adversary.

The adversary says “Rood” and it is foolish to follow what the adversary and his instruments (attack websites) promote.
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1,003 posted on 07/24/2017 8:53:00 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Part 2 - Quotes about Cultist Rood

CONTINUING A CULT Michael John Rood was a follower, evangelist, teacher and high level leader in the cult The Way International for over 15 years, beginning in 1972.. Many people who were involved in TWI at that time remember him because he was heavily involved and held highly visible leadership positions.

Two articles from the Washington Post mention and quote Rood. One article describes a TWI meeting in which the leader introduces "'The Rev. Mr. Michael Rood,' The Way's Washington area director-- 'limb coordinator' in Way parlance-- and the honored guest at this twig. A nine-year veteran of the Way, Rood, 29, still displays vestiges of his years as a Marine Corps sergeant." ("Giving Thanks for Array of Blessings," Washington Post, Oct. 13, 1981, p.A11, by Sandra Boodman)

This indicates that Rood began his involvement in TWI when he was only 20, was ordained in TWI and was a high level leader. "Limb coordinators" were in charge of a state (half a state if TWI had many followers there, or more than one state if there were few). Only about 15 leaders at TWI headquarters were above the limb coordinator level. In order to be ordained and a limb leader in TWI, Rood would have had to serve one or more one-year terms as a TWI recruiter ("WOW Ambassador") and graduated from Way Corps training, which included two years working menial jobs at TWI campuses while taking unaccredited courses.

Rood also claims to have been involved in Capitol Hill Christian Fellowship, a TWI-related group. Rood claims he was a leader in Capitol Hill Christian Fellowship, but doesn't say that it was a TWI-related group.

Rood still maintains relationships with other ex-followers of TWI (almost everyone who was in TWI when Rood was has left to form or join splinter groups, which are substantially the same as TWI in teachings and practice).

They include Robert Wadsworth who worked with Rood to correct the Hebrew calendar, Bo Reahard, who maintains a Biblical Astronomy web site, Jamie Louis who books some of Rood's tours, and Richard Fike who works closely with Rood. Rood has spoken to gatherings of TWI splinter groups such as Christian Educational Services. He has also attended meetings of splinter groups such as those by Dale Sides of Liberating Ministries for Christ. Rood continues to maintain connections with them because they still have much in common.

Michael John Rood has continued many of the themes and practices which made TWI a cult.

Both TWI and Rood:

a) disparage the Christian Church as full of deception and pagan practices;
b) consider themselves to be the one source of truth, the revealer of the unknown Mystery and the way out of "pagan" Christianity;
c) follow the teachings of one Man who can lead them out of deception,
d) warned that America would be attacked and destroyed by Communist powers,
e) promote highly speculative, unfounded and inaccurate theories,
f) devote attention to minute detail on areas of "research" that have essentially little significance,
g) criticize celebration of Christmas (TWI replaced it with "Happy Household Holidays),
h) use similar terminology, such as when Rood refers to believers receiving "the gift of holy spirit," (Mystery of Iniquity, p. 54) meaning that they receive the human spirit which Adam, lost at the fall, not "the Holy Spirit" as evangelical Christianity teaches,
i) promote the "Lamsa Bible" written by George Lamsa, which claims to the translated from the Aramaic and therefore more accurate than translations from the Greek. Lamsa actually rejects most central Christian beliefs (his doctrine is similar to the Unity School of Christianity where he worked for many years) and his translation is deeply flawed in many ways ("George M. Lamsa-- Christian Scholar or Cultic Torchbearer?" Christian Research Journal, by John Juedes on

Rood is different from TWI in his legalistic requirement that Christians keep the Torah and observe the Saturday Sabbath and Hebrew festivals. (Although TWI did emphasize obeying certain universal laws, such as believing and tithing.) On the surface, Rood seems to contradict TWI teaching by emphasizing Hebrew religion, while TWI showed some anti-Semitic characteristics such as denying the WWII holocaust.


1,004 posted on 07/24/2017 9:00:08 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

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Doubling down on falsehood is poor policy.

But it appears that you may be proving my point.

Sad!


1,005 posted on 07/24/2017 9:02:54 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Any FReeper who wants to read the full Washington Post article that identifies Michael Rood as a leader of The Way International cult (referenced in the post above):

You can purchase the full article from this link.

1,006 posted on 07/24/2017 9:07:12 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Luircin

It applies to everyone. Be they Catholic, Protestant etc...


1,007 posted on 07/24/2017 9:20:17 AM PDT by TheStickman (And their fear tastes like sunshine puked up by unicorns.)
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To: boatbums; aMorePerfectUnion

Thanks! It was a comfort to read that response, bb. I appreciate the affirmation of respect. Come the future, I will attempt to be less shy.

As it is, this thread looks like it’s about over. At least I hope so; the last few threads tended to end when the TWI cult got brought up.

I know a few people who were rescued from TWI way back when, and boy, the stories they told me. Somewhere between flabbergasting and nightmare fuel, let me tell you.


1,008 posted on 07/24/2017 9:25:05 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: TheStickman

Glad to hear.

I hold a little doubt that all of us will overcome the temptation at all times on this board, especially when topics of emotional intensity are being discussed.

But it’s good for everyone to be reminded sometimes.


1,009 posted on 07/24/2017 9:26:57 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

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I’m sure that you are aware that all of your items but “a” are utterly false, and completely without basis.

“a” is basically true for about 90% of those professing to be “christian.” Mainstream ‘christian’ beliefs are completely without scriptural basis, and are the product of the mind of man.

Only the doctrines presented by Yeshua, and his NT apostles are correct. The “creeds” and other imagined goodies are pure nonsense.

There is no “Church,” nor “new” covenant. The renewed covenant prophesied by Jeremiah is reality, and it remains with the House of Judah, and the House of Israel, as they are explained by the OT prophets.

Yeshua’s ancient Kehillah will be his bride that he raises on the day of Trumpets, just as the prophets have told us.

Misleading Yeshua’s sheep is nothing to be proud of.
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1,010 posted on 07/24/2017 1:44:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Rood- False teacher in a cult in 1981.
Rood - False teacher of his own cult 2017.


1,011 posted on 07/24/2017 1:57:11 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: editor-surveyor
Continually you clip out the most important verse of the entire chapter.

Which one would that be?

Does YOUR Acts 15 have more than 41 verses?

1,012 posted on 07/24/2017 2:13:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums
HUH??
 
 
Proverbs 25:5
remove wicked officials from the king’s presence,
    and his throne will be established through righteousness.
 
I think you meant Proverbs 26:5
 Answer a fool according to his folly,
    or he will be wise in his own eyes.
 
 
 
But what about verse 4??
4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly,
    or you yourself will be just like him.

 

1,013 posted on 07/24/2017 2:18:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212

How is it that some people only know ONE verse with the word FOOL in it?


1,014 posted on 07/24/2017 2:19:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rwa265
Just clarifying what you meant by your “Yes.”

You wanted an essay?

Your question seemed very Yes/No to me.

1,015 posted on 07/24/2017 2:21:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor
It is impossible to read any part of The Acts without seeing total Torah observance of the disciples and apostles.

O...
K...


Acts 1:1-2

 In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and to teach until the day he was taken up to heaven, after giving instructions through the Holy Spirit to the apostles he had chosen.

1,016 posted on 07/24/2017 2:23:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

The NUMBER and a Half...


1,017 posted on 07/24/2017 2:25:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor
Example: “Saved by Grace” is a false doctrine that is not presented in scripture.

HMMMmmm...


Ephesians 2:8-9New International Version (NIV)

 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - not by works, so that no one can boast.

1,018 posted on 07/24/2017 2:27:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Luircin

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Have you ever read it?

It is about keeping Sabbaths and Appointed feasts, and introducing new believers to keeping them.

Take a count of the number of times Sabbath occurs in The Acts.

See if you can find anything else being described. That is why it is called “The Acts.”
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1,019 posted on 07/24/2017 2:27:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Elsie
There was a Preacher once, said nothing much changes. Nothing new under the sun.
1,020 posted on 07/24/2017 2:28:10 PM PDT by BlueDragon (The beatings will continue until morale improves)
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