Posted on 06/18/2017 5:12:06 PM PDT by narses
I was raised in the Lutheran church. I was studying the Bible at 5, debating theologians at 16, and attending pastoral conferences by special invitation at 19.
My father’s idea of evening pastime was reading the Bible to us, sometimes followed by the Book of Concord or Luther’s Works.
Most (not all) of what is written here has been familiar to me since I was a boy.
Excellent, informative post. Luther was a cloistered Augustinian monk, can one possibly be more Catholic than that?
IMO, Lutheranism more than any other denomination, is closest to Catholicism, but it sadly has devolved (as many denominations have) into what we witness in our current age.
God says... "Mary's Son is My only Son." Thus Mary is the Mother of God. (Ibid.).
God did not derive his divinity from Mary; but it does not follow that it is therefore wrong to say that God was born of Mary, that God is Mary's Son, and that Mary is God's mother...She is the true mother of God and bearer of God...Mary suckled God, rocked God to sleep, prepared broth and soup for God, etc. For God and man are one person, one Christ, one Son, one Jesus. not two Christs. . .just as your son is not two sons...even though he has two natures, body and soul, the body from you, the soul from God alone. (On the Councils and the Church, 1539).
Romanist FAKENEWS! Not surprising in this Quincentennial year.
Hung around with Lutherans for four years. Never heard any of them mention Mary as being venerable.
It’s good to see these sound, and even sweet, views, from Brother Martin.
You must be getting lonely on the caucus threads with no one to play with.
So now he’s the hero and not the hell bound heretic?
Can Catholics ever make up their collective minds about him?
I don’t give a rip about what Luther has to say on Mary or any other subject.
His opinions do not influence me or affect me in the least.
“I don’t give a rip about what Luther has to say on Mary or any other subject.”
The Church of ME the Only One!
“I’m so young and you’re so old
This, my darling, I’ve been told
I don’t care just what they say
‘Cause forever I will pray
You and I will be as free
As the birds up in the trees
Oh, please stay by me, Diana”
Your “fathers” simply changed her name to Mary.
Omnipresent Mary must be thrust to the forefront. Whoever or whatever helps push the lie is useful.
When have I violated a caucus thread?
You seem to be chomping on the bit to attack Catholics whenever you can.
It figures.
The Church of Me.
ealgeone never accused you of violating a caucus thread.
Why are you responding in a way that implies he did?
YOU pinged us to this thread.
How is that either of us chomping at the bit to attack Catholics whenever we can when you notify us of the thread so we can respond?
And what’s the point of complaining about us “attacking” Catholics when you pinged us before we even responded, a virtual invitation to “attack”.
**God did not derive his divinity from Mary; but it does not follow that it is therefore wrong to say that God was born of Mary, that God is Mary’s Son, and that Mary is God’s mother...She is the true mother of God and bearer of God...Mary suckled God, rocked God to sleep, prepared broth and soup for God, etc. For God and man are one person, one Christ, one Son, one Jesus. not two Christs. . .just as your son is not two sons...even though he has two natures, body and soul, the body from you, the soul from God alone. (On the Councils and the Church, 1539).**
The writer starts out that paragraph with, “God did not derive his divinity from Mary..”, and then basically says that God DID.
What a mess!
Jesus Christ said that God is a Spirit. John the baptist said that the Spirit was given to Jesus Christ without measure. Paul said that God was IN Christ reconciling the world unto himself.
Jesus Christ, nor his apostles, ever used the phrase “God the Son”, but always “the Son of God”. They knew exactly what they were defining.
You claim your church compiled the scriptures. Look and see. The words testify of the truth.
Are you “narses of New Hampshire”, or “New Hampshire the narses”?
Despite what the Bergoglio claims, prostelyzation is a Catholic’s duty.
How ironic.
If I followed Luther, I’d be condemned.
When I say I don’t follow him, I am condemned.
Damned if I do and damned if I don’t.
Nothing I do is good enough for Catholics.
Freedom in Christ is awesome.
You should try it sometime and get out of the bondage of religious legalism.
No thanks.
I prefer God’s One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church as compared to the
“church of Me”.
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