Posted on 03/18/2017 7:11:14 AM PDT by metmom
Should We Still Keep The Commandments?
If you are skeptical because of past experiences with religion, understand that religion is not the answer—a relationship with Christ is. There is a clear difference.
Religion says, “I have to follow rules.” A relationship with Christ says, “I want to follow His plan for my life.”
Religion says, “I have to go to church.” A relationship with Christ says, “I want to position myself to learn more, worship Him and benefit from fellowship.”
Religion offers a set of rituals; a relationship with Jesus offers a guiding light.
Religion is man’s attempt to find God; relationship assures us of His presence.
Many lose sight of purpose because they have “religion” and not a true relationship with Christ. They may know Scripture but they often do not apply it to their lives. As a result, their relationship with God is cold and distant.
A fatal statement, yet so common is, “I know what God’s Word says, but…” For example: I know that I shouldn’t watch certain movies or television programs, but I enjoy then. I know that I shouldn’t date her, but she’s very attractive. I know that I shouldn’t go there, but everyone is doing it. I know what the Bible says, but it doesn’t apply now. I know that I need to go to church, pray, and read God’s Word, but I’m too busy.
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OK, I’m trying to find out what *Christian Nihilism* is.
But I couldn’t make sense of any of the stuff out there.
What is it?
Sorry, but I’m not sure about what you’re trying to say?
quote-Elsie, if people followed the plain template in scripture,
Plain?
REALLY
If one has to jump, skip and hop all over scripture to create a ‘template’; then, at least to me, it isn’t very ‘plain’ at all!
Elsie, His Son gives us the template, pretty plainly.
It’s not plain to see for people if they have substituted Passover(14th) with Rome’s Good Friday.
Or substituted His Unleavened Bread (15th) with Rome’s Holy Saturday.
Or His First Fruits(16th) with Rome’s Easter Sunday.
Those two are completely different ‘1st importance of the gospels’. Paul taught the former. Rome teaches the latter.
Simple observation can show us that.
Those True scriptura days may fall on Rome’s Tiwsday, Wodensday, and Thorsday this year..
So, is Rome right or is Scriptura right? Because the world tends to go with Rome, instead of the Word Made Flesh.
Most don’t see the plain subtle difference. One need not have to jump, skip and hop around the scriptures to find His template. His Son followed the template. His Son, the Word, is His template.
That’s why He’s called the Word made Flesh. Literally. Rome can’t teach that- the 1+6+1 template people scoff at, can.
That is exhibit A of how Rome makes the world jump, skip and hop all around the Truth;
Having them safely land on Roman lies/falsehoods and fakes without as much as a challenge against scripture.
If Rome pollutes and corrupts the 1st importance of the gospel, with their own lies and falsehoods, is that not one way that satan can deceive the whole world- if possible, even the elect?
I'm pretty sure is has to do with the matter-antimatter course I took at Whattsamata U.(Rocky & Bullwinkle joke). I can't figure it out either. Elsie is tied up with the calendar guy. I've lost everyone on the difference on Mosaic law and Gods law and now we have nihilism on a religious thread. It's all starting to unravel. I hope I've done my part. :-)
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The word of Yehova is clear: He will “know” only those that keep his commandments.
Those that do not will find themselves in outer darkness.
As long as “outer darkness” is sufficient for you, it sounds like a “Win-Win.”
Religion requires that you obey men’s rules, not Yehova’s.
Judaism requires that you obey men’s rules.
“Christianity” requires that you obey men’s rules.
Yeshua asked that we obey his Father’s commandments.
Such a tough choice!
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Agreed. You don’t sound Roman Catholic.
Every time I slice thru that knot; Gordon comes back to re-tie the loose ends!
Has 'Mary' been mentioned yet in this thread??
(Given to St. Dominic and Blessed Alan de la Roche)
| 1 | Whoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall receive powerful graces. |
| 2. | I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary. |
| 3. | The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies |
| 4. | It will cause virtue and good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of people from the love of the world and its vanities, and will lift them to the desire of eternal things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means. |
| 5. | The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish. |
| 6. | Whoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying Himself to the consideration of its Sacred Mysteries shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise Him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just, he shall remain in the grace of God, and become worthy of eternal life. |
| 7. | Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church. |
| 8. | Those who are faithful to recite the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the light of God and the plentitude of His graces; at the moment of death they shall participate in the merits of the Saints in Paradise. |
| 9. | I shall deliver from purgatory those who have been devoted to the Rosary. |
| 10. | The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of glory in Heaven. |
| 11. | You shall obtain all you ask of me by the recitation of the Rosary. |
| 12. | All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities. |
| 13. | I have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire celestial court during their life and at the hour of death |
| 14. | All who recite the Rosary are my children, and brothers and sisters of my only Son, Jesus Christ. |
| 15. | Devotion of my Rosary is a great sign of predestination. |
"The Most Holy Virgin in these last times in which we live has given a new efficacy to the recitation of the Rosary to such an extent that there is no problem,
no matter how difficult it is, wheter temporal or above all spiritual, in the personal life of each one of us, of our families...that cannot be solved by the Rosary.
There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we cannot resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary."
Sister Lucia dos Santos
"Mary" promises GREAT! things if you follow HER rules!!!
Thank you for that. That’s the Elsie we have been waiting for. I thought you were working on the 1-6-1 math problem and disappearing days.
You are aware that Sunday worship did not start until early in the Fourth Century.shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
tell me gents. Do you know the difference between Mosaic law and Gods Law? I’m striking out with the home crowd.
Well I would dispute that understanding of history because the New Testament in Acts indicates they were meeting on Sunday. That said, while my preferred day is Sunday, I know it doesn’t matter. Arguments over the day miss the whole point. For the Christian, our true sabbath rest is found in Christ.
Where is that in the scriptures?
Genesis 1
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Really what you are saying is that it doesn't matter to you. God should have a say in it, don't you think?
quote-quote-We do realize; OF COURSE; that the SABBATH begins at sundown on Friday; right?
Where is that in the scriptures?
Genesis 1
shalom b’SHEM Yah’shua HaMashiach
Rome’s Friday, nor its Saturday, is there in Genesis 1.
That is read into the text, with kudos to Rome.
If you were familiar with the To this day, the Chosen People I pray that this brings a lamp to you walk. If you were to read Acts carefully,
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
it does not say Sunday,
but instead it says the first day.
customs of Yah'shua it would become clear.
celebrate the end of Shabbat
with a meal called an Oneg on the
beginning of the First Day,
which occurs at evening on the
day we call Saturday.
And I believe you are speaking for God! If God wanted us to continue a required sabbath day one would think he would have told us in the New Testament. One would think somewhere Paul would have mentioned it in all those letters. He chided the churches for all sorts of sins, but never mentioned sabbath breaking. Read carefully the sabbath requirements from the Old Testament. I’ve never met a single sabbatarian who comes close to keeping them. If you believe in keeping the sabbath, do you also believe in the Old Testament punishment for sabbath breaking? If not, when we’re we freed from the punishment for sabbath breaking? Do you take Saturdays off? If yes, it’s arguable you are breaking the 4th Commandment because it commands us to work six days. I believe the sabbath passed away, just like the priesthood, circumcision, and temple sacrifices. If you don’t, that’s fine with me. I’m under no obligation to debate or explain myself further.
What chaps me about you in this thread is your tone. We can agree to disagree and do so with grace, but your accusatory tone hacked me off the other day and it’s still the same today. I don’t remember you being like that, but if that is who you are and how you act, that’s fine. I am comfortable talking to others with different views and don’t need everyone around me to believe just as I do. I have good friends who disagree with me here. I just got back from the Ligonier National Conference. I go every year. I know that most of the speakers save John MacArthur, Steve Lawson, and maybe Allister Begg would disagree with me, but I still love and appreciate them. My conscience is quite clear on this matter. I’m sticking with what the New Testament actually says, to wit:
“Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.” (Colossians 2:16)
Rome has always been a fan of Eisegesis.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
I reject the Hebrew roots movement and its understanding of Scripture. I’m not interested in bondage.
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