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Francis’ Main Innovations…
Denzinger-Bergoglio ^ | July 2015 | Denzinger-Bergoglio

Posted on 02/19/2017 7:50:22 PM PST by ebb tide

Who is Francis? A prophet for our times? God’s instrument for the renovation of the Church? The precursor of a new springtime of the Faith? A collection of his principal teachings confronted with the Magisterium of the Church can be an excellent aid to accurately judge these questions…

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Ecumenism; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: antipope; francischurch; theantipope

1 posted on 02/19/2017 7:50:22 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

You don’t want to waste your time figuring out who Pope Francis is. You want to get ready for Jesus Christ’s return.

Revelation Chapter 12:
1 Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars.
2 Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.

Nelson, Thomas (2009-02-18). Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 1193). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.

Previous Bible commentators have taken this as a symbolic vision about Israel (Mary) giving birth to Jesus, and marking the start of the 3 1/2 year Great Tribulation.
However, since “knowledge had increased”, we can use star charting programs such as Stellarium to see that this could be a literal “great sign” in heaven.

The constellation “Virgo”, the Virgin, has always been identified with Mary the Mother of Jesus. The nine stars of Leo, the Lion (of Judah), form a “garland” above her head.
Jupiter has always been identified as the “King” star. It is striped (by His stripes we are healed) and has a large, red spot (they pierced His side).

Here is the sequence of events regarding the Sun, Moon, Jupiter, Virgo, Leo, Mercury, Mars and Venus

Mon, 21 November 2016 = 20th of Cheshvan, 5777
Jupiter enters Virgo crossing line from Spica to Porrima

Sat, 28 January 2017 = 1st of Sh’vat, 5777
Jupiter retrograde motion begins inside Virgo. “Gestation” begins??

-—— YOU ARE HERE!! -——

Sat, 10 June 2017 = 16th of Sivan, 5777
Jupiter prograde motion resumes inside Virgo

Thu, 17 August 2017 = 25th of Av, 5777
Total Solar eclipse across America (from Portland to Charleston)

Sun, 10 September 2017 = 19th of Elul, 5777
Jupiter crosses Heze — Spica line. Virgin gives birth? Conjunction Regulus and Mercury

Wed, 20 September 2017 = 29th of Elul, 5777
New Moon, Venus — Regulus conjunction - Aligns with Great Pyramid at Giza

Sun, 24 September 2017 = 4th of Tishrei, 5778
Sun at Virgo’s shoulders (clothed), the Moon is at her feet, Mercury, Mars, Venus are added to Leo’s nine stars as Virgo’s 12-star ‘garland’

The great sign in the heaven is complete. This formation last happened in the about 5932 years ago, with Saturn in place of Mercury, and won’t happen again for at least another 2000 years.

Luke 21
25 “And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring;
26 “men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
27 “Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 “Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”

Nelson, Thomas (2009-02-18). Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 1023). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.

See the image at: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_1y_hLqVXf4/maxresdefault.jpg

Graphic says 23 September 2017, as it depends on where you say Virgo’s feet are. Besides, no one knows the day or the hour.

I don’t know for sure if Daniel’s 70th week has started. Sir Issac Newton’s calculation, which required Israel to be back in the land with control of Jerusalem (June 1967) worked out to September 2015. We don’t know if the Anti-Christ confirmed a seven year treaty back then, but it is possible. The colors of the Four Horsemen are White, Red, Black, and, while it is translated as “Pale”, the Greek can be translated as “Green”. These are the colors of the Islamic Nations that are going up against Israel.

The Revelation 12:1-2 Great Sign in the Heavens is September 23-24, 2017, so that would be two years into the Seventieth Week. The Revelation 12:3-4 sign is no where to be seen. However, there are reports of perturbations in the Cassini spacecraft orbit around Saturn, so the “great, fiery red dragon, may be out there as a brown dwarf, which would explain why the Vatican is operating an infrared telescope, called Project Lucifer, here in Arizona.

While there are folks who think that the “called out ones”, usually called the Church, will escape the entire Seventh Week, as I read it we are only offered escape from the final 3 1/2 years if we are counted as worthy, or just before the Anit-Christ is finally revealed, which ever comes first.

So we could very well be in the first half of the Tribulation, or Time of Jacobs Trouble. The thing with Bible Prophecy is that you only really know, for sure, after the event has happened.

So read your Bible and Pray! Do what the Holy Spirit leads you to do in this world, but don’t be too attached to it! Maranatha!

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Revelation 12
3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads.
4 His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth,
to devour her Child as soon as it was born.
5 She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne.
6 Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days.

Nelson, Thomas. Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 1193). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.

1. Go to Google Sky: https://www.google.com/sky/
2. Click on Constellations in the bottom button bar.
3. Click on Virgo (last button) in the bottom button bar.
4. Click on “Infrared” button at top right of the main window.
5. Click on the “+” button two times.
6. Observe the rectangular black space with the Green “star” with a kind of red “diadems” under it.

Note: Apparently the thing that Goggle is trying to block has gotten closer and they have not yet change the censoring pixels. Is this “another sign”?


2 posted on 02/19/2017 7:59:31 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: ebb tide
Read it. This quote stands out from many: Those who are Christians with the Bible and those who are Muslims with the Koran, with the faith you have received from your fathers. There is one single God, the same God.

Nonsense!!!! They are not the same god. This man is an abject fool, clown, buffoon and Antichrist.

3 posted on 02/19/2017 7:59:43 PM PST by Fungi (Every breath, another five thousand fungal spores enter your body. All five thousand will be named.)
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To: SubMareener

“if we are counted as worthy”?? If we acknowledge Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior we ARE worthy because of His finished work on our behalf. it doesn’t depend on us or our “works”.


4 posted on 02/19/2017 8:05:46 PM PST by beethovenfan (I always try to maximize my carbon footprint.)
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To: SubMareener

I’m not all interested in your “prophecies” and your reliance on hoakie astrology.

But of that day or hour no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father.

Take ye heed, watch and pray. For ye know not when the time is. Even as a man who going into a far country, left his house; and gave authority to his servants over every work, and commanded the porter to watch. Watch ye therefor, (for you know not when the lord of the house cometh: at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning,) Lest coming on a sudden, he find you sleeping. And what I say to you, I say to all: Watch.


5 posted on 02/19/2017 8:12:31 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: beethovenfan

“if we are counted as worthy”
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Yeah, its an obscure Biblical reference:

Luke 21:36 “Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

Always good to reread the Letter of James. While you can’t work yourself into salvation, if you say you have accepted Jesus as your Savior, and don’t act like it, then you might just find yourself one of those to whom He says, “I never knew you!” (Matthew 7:21-23)


6 posted on 02/19/2017 8:23:11 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Fungi

Is an even headed response even possible here?

First and foremost: Francis is a sinner, as is every member of humanity except the Jesus who as God became man, to bear the sin of the rest who were willing to let Him do it.

Francis has committed some egregious errors. The Allah of Islam is an illusory front for evil spirits which makes Islam almost sui generis in its evil. Oriental faiths may carry an attenuated trace of the Abrahamic God along with their false or distorted deities. They seem to want some kind of ultimately good supreme principle, even in the sense that we know good. However along with his errors — so has the Magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church (here come the arrows! Duck! Crazy Evangelical Alert!)

I think he could get right on Islam with more observation of world events. When they refuse enough to return his love, he could learn. The repudiation could look quite Davidic when it happens.

In general: fasten your spiritual seat belts (and just belts, i.e. the belt of truth) snugly. A lot is poised to happen.


7 posted on 02/19/2017 8:23:17 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SubMareener

And that will be a sad declaration on His part. This reflects an eternal spurning of His outreach: NEVER knew. Not even, once knew but then forgot (this is scripturally pledged to be impossible).


8 posted on 02/19/2017 8:31:40 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ebb tide

Right, Watch! But let not your heart be troubled! You seem to be so upset that Pope Francis is truly evil. You should be happy because it means Jesus is coming soon. Peace and Grace.


9 posted on 02/19/2017 8:37:11 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: SubMareener

He’s embraced evil... but so has every sinner on earth.

We don’t see the full story. Evangelicals shouldn’t be holding Francis to Roman Catholic norms if those are biblically distorted anyhow.


10 posted on 02/19/2017 8:39:52 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ebb tide

Who is Francis? How about this? He is a naive busybody who preaches ‘Do As I Say, Not As I Do’.

Francis tells us that walls are bad. Yet the Vatican is surrounded by a huge wall.

Francis tells us that we should welcome illegal immigrants. Yet Vatican citizenship is among the toughest to get in the world.

I could go on and on. My advice to Francis: Resign, then run for mayor of Chicago. It would be a perfect fit.


11 posted on 02/19/2017 8:46:21 PM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: SubMareener
Is this “another sign”?


12 posted on 02/19/2017 9:18:03 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“I think he could get right on Islam with more observation of world events.” No. Islam is a false religion, an Antichrist, and as long as the Antichrist popster reigns, nothing will change. This is a popster fool nonpareil.


13 posted on 02/19/2017 9:35:36 PM PST by Fungi (Every breath, another five thousand fungal spores enter your body. All five thousand will be named.)
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To: ebb tide

Is that what they're calling it nowadays?

Thought it was hoke, like yoke and here they've (that sneaky "they" always running around doing stuff) gone and changed things.

StatPage search for; Hoakie astrology yields at #1 (non-advertisement display) http://www.ravishly.com/2015/09/18/how-use-astrology-non-hokey-way.

Had a look, wouldn't recommend it either. So much for hoakie, or non-hokey astrology, whichever way that one is turned.

Distantly related info; http://dangerousminds.net/comments/someone_left_a_cake_out_in_the_rain_the_macarthur_park_megapost

Jimmy Webb’s “MacArthur Park” is one of the most powerfully evocative and epically heart-breaking “love lost” songs ever written. It is preposterous, although it is not kitsch. It is sublime. It’s a masterpiece for the ages.

But it drives some people nuts.

“MacArthur Park” was once ridiculed by “humorist” Dave Barry as the “worst song in modern history” and as having the “worst lyrics.” Then again if Dave Barry is yer barometer o’ musical taste…

everything is related to everything else, somehow...

keep searching...but if you run across any of those "they" people, break like the wind...

14 posted on 02/19/2017 9:54:27 PM PST by BlueDragon (my kinfolk had to fight off wagon burnin' scalp taking Comanches, reckon we could take on a few more)
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To: Leaning Right

Chicago bump


15 posted on 02/20/2017 1:36:04 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (It is better to better to be slapped with the truth than to be kissed with a lie.)
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To: Fungi

Everybody wants their enemy du jour to be The Antichrist (tm).

The Roman church isn’t even the sole rival of the Altogether Correct Evangelicals. There WAS that little thing called the Roman-Orthodox split.

We won’t see a confusing, feckless figure like Francis when the actual main Antichrist appears. The real one will be able to unite people. Francis seems to be dividing.


16 posted on 02/20/2017 3:09:40 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SubMareener

We are simply dealing with a bad Pope.


17 posted on 02/20/2017 6:35:02 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: ebb tide
Who is Francis?

An exuberant blasphemer, for starters. And the list goes on...

Another question for the list, under the "Papacy" section: Does an authentic "Holy Father" "proselytize" such devilment as is documented on this D/B collection of quotes?

18 posted on 02/20/2017 9:51:31 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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