Posted on 11/28/2016 3:03:26 PM PST by NYer
To which "salvation" can say "Amen," but as meaning by becoming good enough to be with God, first via the act of baptism effecting regeneration which renders one inherently good enough (by "infused charity") to be with God, and then if such sin and do not sufficiently atone for such, and since they are not "perfect," then they must suffer the purfying torments of RC (EOs differ) Purgatory until they atone for such and become good enough to be with God.
Thus we can see that this begins with the error of justification based upon being actually good enough to be with God, even though such, even if innocent, are not perfect in character which Purgatory is said to be needed for.
And which theology means that when Abraham was counted righteous because he (who was as good as dead as regards his ability to effect the promise of God) believed God could do what he could not, was actually made good enough to be with God.
And it means that even though as yet immature believers are washed, sanctified and justified, and accepted in the Beloved and positionally seated with Him in Heaven, and have direct spiritual access with boldness into the holy of holies in Heaven, (Heb. 10:19), and as yet imperfect Paul (Phil. 3:10ff) said he and they would be present with the Lord at death, or forever with the Lord if He returned in their lifetime, yet according to Rome they cannot enter glory to be with God until after possibly eons of time in fiery torments.
Which the apostle's failed to manifestly warn believers of, while clearly teaching of suffering the loss of rewards at the Lord's return, which is the only manifestly taught suffering for the believers after this life .
When God looks at us,
You mean real believers.
He looks at the works of Christ, not our works.
More precisely, He sees our works, including those who testify to our having true faith, which faith appropriates justification and effects works (which He also enables and motivates, and yet rewards), but the effects of faith are not the actual ground for justification, as if we actually were good enough to be with God.
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