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Donald Trump Reveals Evangelical Rifts That Could Shape Politics for Years
The New York Times ^ | 10/17/16 | Laurie Goodstein

Posted on 10/18/2016 5:29:58 PM PDT by marshmallow

When Jen Hatmaker speaks to stadiums full of Christian women, she regales them with stories about her five children and her garden back in Austin, Tex. — and stays away from politics. But recently she took to Facebook and Instagram to blast Donald J. Trump as a “national disgrace,” and remind her legions of followers that there are other names on the ballot in November.

“Trump has consistently normalized violence, sexual deviance, bigotry and hate speech,” she said in an email interview. “I wouldn’t accept this from my seventh-grade son, much less from a potential leader of the free world.”

In the nearly four decades since Jerry Falwell Sr. founded a group called the Moral Majority, evangelical Christians have been the Republican Party’s most unified and reliable voting bloc in November presidential elections. The leaders of what came to be known as the religious right were kingmakers and household names, like Pat Robertson, James C. Dobson, Ralph Reed.

But this year, Ms. Hatmaker’s outraged post was one small sign of the splintering of the evangelical bloc and a possible portent of the changes ahead. While most of the religious right’s aging old guard has chosen to stand by Mr. Trump, its judgment and authority are being challenged by an increasingly assertive crop of younger leaders, minorities and women such as Ms. Hatmaker.

“Those men have never spoken for me or, frankly, anyone I know,” said Ms. Hatmaker, the author of popular inspirational Christian books. “The fracture within our own Christian family may be irreparable.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Religion & Politics
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To: Flick Lives

I looked at about as much of it as I could stomach. I don’t believe for a second, that she is a true Christian. More like a wolf in sheep’s clothing.


21 posted on 10/18/2016 5:59:50 PM PDT by Mark17 (Calvary's love has never faltered. All it's wonder still remains. Souls still take eternal passage.)
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To: Flick Lives

Just looked at pics. She’s the quintessential ‘MILF’ in my neck of the woods. Lived right next door to one of these nightmares. Always preaching what a great Christian she is........and has a ‘flavor of the month’. One kicked her door in. Called police. She was evicted.


22 posted on 10/18/2016 6:04:18 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (<<<<< he no longer IS my 'teddy bear'.)
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To: marshmallow

So let me guess, the faggotry and f*** anything that moves, agenda of the NOW Marxists is something this supposed Christian woman supports? Fight the patriarchy and all that rot?

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3200158/posts
Marxist Feminism’s Ruined Lives
Frontpagemag.com ^ | 9-2-2014 | Mallory Millett

...And so began my period as an unwitting witness to history. I stayed with Kate and her lovable Japanese husband, Fumio, in a dilapidated loft on The Bowery as she finished her first book, a PhD thesis for Columbia University, “Sexual Politics.”

It was 1969. Kate invited me to join her for a gathering at the home of her friend, Lila Karp. They called the assemblage a “consciousness-raising-group,” a typical communist exercise, something practiced in Maoist China. We gathered at a large table as the chairperson opened the meeting with a back-and-forth recitation, like a Litany, a type of prayer done in Catholic Church. But now it was Marxism, the Church of the Left, mimicking religious practice:

“Why are we here today?” she asked.
“To make revolution,” they answered.
“What kind of revolution?” she replied.
“The Cultural Revolution,” they chanted.
“And how do we make Cultural Revolution?” she demanded.
“By destroying the American family!” they answered.
“How do we destroy the family?” she came back.
“By destroying the American Patriarch,” they cried exuberantly.
“And how do we destroy the American Patriarch?” she replied.
“By taking away his power!”
“How do we do that?”
“By destroying monogamy!” they shouted.
“How can we destroy monogamy?”

Their answer left me dumbstruck, breathless, disbelieving my ears. Was I on planet earth? Who were these people?

“By promoting promiscuity, eroticism, prostitution and homosexuality!” they resounded.

They proceeded with a long discussion on how to advance these goals by establishing The National Organization of Women. It was clear they desired nothing less than the utter deconstruction of Western society. The upshot was that the only way to do this was “to invade every American institution. Every one must be permeated with ‘The Revolution’”: The media, the educational system, universities, high schools, K-12, school boards, etc.; then, the judiciary, the legislatures, the executive branches and even the library system.

It fell on my ears as a ludicrous scheme, as if they were a band of highly imaginative children planning a Brinks robbery; a lark trumped up on a snowy night amongst a group of spoiled brats over booze and hashish.

To me, this sounded silly. I was enduring culture shock after having been cut-off from my homeland, living in Third-World countries for years with not one trip back to the United States. I was one of those people who, upon returning to American soil, fell out of the plane blubbering with ecstasy at being home in the USA. I knelt on the ground covering it with kisses. I had learned just exactly how delicious was the land of my birth and didn’t care what anyone thought because they just hadn’t seen what I had or been where I had been. I had seen factory workers and sex-slaves chained to walls.

How could they know? Asia is beyond our ken and, as they say, utterly inscrutable, and a kind of hell I never intended to revisit. I lived there, not junketed, not visited like sweet little tourists — I’d conducted households and tried to raise a child. I had outgrown the communism of my university days and was clumsily groping my way back to God.

How could twelve American women who were the most respectable types imaginable — clean and privileged graduates of esteemed institutions: Columbia, Radcliffe, Smith, Wellesley, Vassar; the uncle of one was Secretary of War under Franklin Roosevelt — plot such a thing? Most had advanced degrees and appeared cogent, bright, reasonable and good. How did these people rationally believe they could succeed with such vicious grandiosity? And why?

I dismissed it as academic-lounge air-castle-building. I continued with my new life in New York while my sister became famous publishing her books, featured on the cover of “Time Magazine.” “Time” called her “the Karl Marx of the Women’s Movement.” This was because her book laid out a course in Marxism 101 for women. Her thesis: The family is a den of slavery with the man as the Bourgeoisie and the woman and children as the Proletariat. The only hope for women’s “liberation” (communism’s favorite word for leading minions into inextricable slavery; “liberation,” and much like “collective” – please run from it, run for your life) was this new “Women’s Movement.” Her books captivated the academic classes and soon “Women’s Studies” courses were installed in colleges in a steady wave across the nation with < my sister > Kate Millett books as required reading...


23 posted on 10/18/2016 6:11:42 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (A rigged debate is a rigged election. More was made of the "Twenty-One" gameshow scandal.)
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To: odawg
Hitlery is the one who boasted "WE came, WE saw, HE DIED!!!"

#HandsUpDontShoot

The lying Rat is lying about everything she claims concerns her about Trump and his supporters.

Homosexual supremacist parades and gay days in school are the things of "Sexual Deviance".

24 posted on 10/18/2016 6:15:31 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (A rigged debate is a rigged election. More was made of the "Twenty-One" gameshow scandal.)
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To: marshmallow

Follow the money. Doesn’t Austin have the biggest abortion clinic in the world?


25 posted on 10/18/2016 6:21:50 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: marshmallow

Obviously, Jen Hatmaker is on Hillary’s payroll. Pay her no mind.


26 posted on 10/18/2016 6:27:15 PM PDT by Chgogal (A woman who votes for Hillary is voting with her vagina and not her brain.)
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To: madison10

That is what I was thinking—a wolf in sheep’s clothing. I read that the globalists are growing false churches to lure Christians out of solid teachings, lots of feel good stuff instead of sound doctrine.


27 posted on 10/18/2016 6:41:52 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: marshmallow

I’m sure it was hard to find someone from Austin, TX who doesn’t like Republicans. /sar


28 posted on 10/18/2016 6:46:22 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: marshmallow

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Leftists will pick any excuse thy can find to justify their wanton greed for bread and circus.
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29 posted on 10/18/2016 6:47:11 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: marshmallow

Just part and parcel of the same. The Socialist, Communists, have infiltrated all facets of society.


30 posted on 10/18/2016 6:57:10 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Flick Lives

Ah, the truth shines through.

Get a Dem shill and create a narrative.


31 posted on 10/18/2016 7:02:38 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: donna

There went her “Christian” credentials, along with the Obama/Hillary love note posted above.


32 posted on 10/18/2016 7:02:44 PM PDT by madison10 (Praying for team Trump.)
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To: Mark17

She’s a Dem shill.

This is nothing but a planted story to create a narrative.


33 posted on 10/18/2016 7:04:24 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: marshmallow

There is not much worse than someone that claims be christian and then supports Obama or Hillary. She is casting stones at Trump, but not Hillary. That is the worst kind of hypocrite.


34 posted on 10/18/2016 7:15:44 PM PDT by Revel
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To: headstamp 2

It makes me wonder if there is even one honest democrat in the entire world. I am thinking there probably isn’t even one.


35 posted on 10/18/2016 7:16:07 PM PDT by Mark17 (Calvary's love has never faltered. All it's wonder still remains. Souls still take eternal passage.)
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To: Flick Lives

Without a doubt, you sir, have uncovered the hypocrite of the year.


36 posted on 10/18/2016 7:25:20 PM PDT by N9841A
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To: marshmallow

I have been familiar with the Evangelical Community for many decades, and I have never ever heard of this person.


37 posted on 10/18/2016 7:30:04 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Flick Lives

Without a doubt, you sir, have uncovered the hypocrite of the year.


38 posted on 10/18/2016 7:31:39 PM PDT by N9841A
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To: marshmallow

This is liberal TRASH

The bible is the inspired word of GOD! Many verses spoken by JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF!

Can’t these people READ?

Sex between people of the same sex is an ABOMINATION to God.

I had to laugh I actually found some homo site that tried to redefine the Hebrew word for abomination so that it doesn’t really mean abomination.

Check this site out for the TRUTH
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/8441.htm

Can they be forgiven? Of course. BUT and it’s a big BUT, you have to REPENT! You have to CHANGE! You have to denounce your sins of the flesh, your unholy, FILTHY, disgusting, abhorrent, homo practices and lifestyle. Then ONLY THEN, will God forgive you.

You can’t lie to God. You can’y fool Him. He WILL NOT BE MOCKED!

So if you choose to renounce homosexuality completely and totally, God will KNOW if you are lying.

Remember, homosexual sex acts are an abomination to God. They spread diseases not just aids. They are UNNATURAL. They are PERVERSE.

How in the world can ANYONE think it is okay? It certainly is not okay with God.

There is a special hell for false teachers of the faith, misleading those they teach, like this woman.

I wouldn’t want to be her or others like her when they meet Jesus.


39 posted on 10/18/2016 7:41:20 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts ,)
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To: marshmallow

A NYT article on Christian faith is like Satan giving a commentary about the sermon on the mount.


40 posted on 10/18/2016 8:26:46 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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