Posted on 09/22/2016 7:57:02 PM PDT by marshmallow
GERMANY, September 21, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) — The German Bishops have presented a new “Unified Translation” of the Bible that follows a significant modernization of the language and will be binding for all German-speaking areas starting in 2017.
On Tuesday, the German Bishops Conference (DBK) presented in Fulda the fruit of many years of scientific work: a new edition of the so-called “Unified Translation" (Einheitsübersetzung) of the Bible into German. It’s called “unified” because, from the original published from 1962 onward, these editions are supposed to be used ecumenically, unifying Catholics and Protestants in Germany. The original aim, however, was thwarted in 2005 when Protestants reverted to the Luther translation.
The leader of the research project was the bishop (now emeritus) of Erfurt, Joachim Wanke, who explained that the new edition is a “moderate revision” of the older text. Wanke added that a translation is always also an interpretation. The new edition shows more “braveness” to present “biblical jargon,” he said, reported by kath.net.
According to Jewish tradition, the personal names of God cannot be pronounced, so “Yahweh” is substituted by “Lord” in the new edition. In fact, every paragraph has a change, explained Michael Theobald, president of the German Bible Association.
When the apostle Paul calls two new followers, they are not two men anymore, Andronicus and Junias; rather, a new discovery showed that apparently it was one man and one woman, hence Andronicus and Junia. This led to the discussion that the word “apostle” must be applied to women as well as men (Author’s note: In German, different genders of the word exist and usually gender-ideologists insist on using male and female forms).
Other changes are more ideological.
Most frightening is the change to the iconic Isaiah passage (7:14): “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son”.....
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You are correct sir, or at least that's what I was taught when I was a Catholic. 😀 Since I am NOW, an Ephesians 2:8-9 kind of guy, I don't accept it anymore, but I did at one time. ✌️️
Did some not get the message??
It's why Christianity rejects roman catholic tradition much as it rejects the mormon claim to have "another" Bible.
What possible difference could it make?
You know MM, the Bible doesn't tell us what was going on in China, or whatever it was called at the time of Christ. Does that mean it did not exist? Probably not. It was just irrelevant to the Biblical narrative. 😃😀
The ECF’s don’t even agree with each other and at least one of them is known to be fraudulent work, but I don’t remember which one it was. Iscool mentions that several times.
And then Catholics can’t figure out what we don’t trust their teaching or believe their claim that *sacred tradition* = the authority of Scripture.
They’re built on the sinking sand of opinion pieces of men.
And I should trust them with my eternal destiny?
I. DON’T. THINK. SO.
I couldn’t even be sure of which ECF I should believe.
My wife speaks two other languages, besides English. She tells me Jesus had half brothers and sisters, the children of Mary and Joseph, after they did the evil deed. Later I will ask her to show me the exact words in her two native languages, and give me the EXACT meaning. Later bro. 😃
‘Selected by Peter’ ... Jesus told the Apostles that HE chosen them, and one of them was a devil. Jesus chose Saul of Tarsus. The eleven drew lots over their two choices ... and Matthias is never heard from again. Saul, on the other hand, chosen by JESUS we know was the GOD choice because he was entrusted with THE Gospel, the GOSPEL catholiciism rejected long ago in favor of a man-derived institution which teaches its adherents that they must work to become good enough to be Saved. Peter worked calling on chance to inform him, GOD chose by GRACE, and HE chose Saul of Tarsus. And there has not been an Apostle added since. Your faux ‘holy apostolic church’ is fraudulent and you are proving it!
My argument stands. Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah, The Rock, the Holy One of Israel and He built His church, one holy catholic apostolic church on Cephas, the other Apostles and Prophets, with Himself as the chief cornerstone.
You've yet to be able to explain how roman catholicism accepts one ECF on a topic, while rejecting him on another topic, while claiming the "tradition",which is supposed to be one, was passed on to these guys. Did some not get the message??
I understand the Early Church Fathers as an unbroken historical chain of the one holy catholic apostolic church, each one of them with gifts from the Father excersised and refined according to their faith and obedience, combined their human frailties. I am not rebelling, or protesting, against what the LORD Jesus Christ said. I do not continually oppose the one holy catholic apostolic church that He built on Cephas and the other apostles. As it is written, Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
Ephesians, Catholic chapter two, Protestant verses nineteen to twenty two,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James
It's why Christianity rejects roman catholic tradition much as it rejects the mormon claim to have "another" Bible.
Christianity is catholic. You would not have a Bible except for the one holy catholic apostolic church.
My Greek friend, born and raised in Greece, does. He was just here at my house a few minutes ago. He speaks 7 languages, my wife speaks 3. I hope to get him to bring me his Greek New Testament, and explain some things to me. 😀😆😄
The invincible ignorance is astonishing to behold! “ You would not have a Bible except for the one holy catholic apostolic church.” And you put your org in power above GOD with that foolish perspective. Not surprising, since your priesthood claims the power to call JESUS down from Heaven so your priest can continue to sacrifice The LORD CHRIST for Catholic eating.
Do you suppose they might regret it even more, to die by it?
I believe Him. I know that others do not.
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James. These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren. And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,) Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry. Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood. For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take. Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection. And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias. And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.
Matthew, Catholic chapter sixteen, Protestant verses sixteen to nineteen,
Acts, Catholic chapter one, Protestant verses thirteen to twenty six,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James
This is where you argument fails. If it's an unbroken chain as the catholic claims then they will all be on the same message points.
They are not and roman catholicism knows this. When they disagree with the ECF the ECF is dismissed as being wrong.
Christianity is catholic.
Christianity may be catholic in the sense it is universal. Christianity is not roman catholic which is not universal for roman catholicism adds to Christianity. See all the prior discussions regarding the worship of mary, indulgences, etc. You would not have a Bible except for the one holy catholic apostolic church.
Please...we had the Bible before the roman catholic church.
For the group who claims they gave the world the Bible it seems to be the one book they reject the most.
Why do you, one person, use the word "we ?" You would not have the Bible except for the one holy catholic apostolic church, which is the historical source of the Christian Bible.
For the group who claims they gave the world the Bible it seems to be the one book they reject the most.
The Bible is composed of books. I have freely posted from it on this very thread.
The catholic can continue to think this all they want. They should remember this as they kneel before the idols of mary and offer their prayers to her.
There is no requirement to love Mary.
We are to love Christ. Mary plays no role in the salvation of the Christian.
Cognitive dissonance; how do you imagine you love the Christ while you do not love his blessed mother ?
Cognitive dissonance; how do you imagine you love the Christ while you do not love his blessed mother ?
The statues of mary in catholic churches say otherwise. They are idols. It's why the catholic has to amend the 10 Commandments to avoid the part of no graven images and bowing down before them.
Catholics pray TO mary.
Mary is blessed among women. She is not Blessed Mary.
For He has had regard for the humble state of His bondslave; For behold, from this time on all generations will count me blessed. Luke 1:48
>>We are to love Christ. Mary plays no role in the salvation of the Christian.<<
Cognitive dissonance; how do you imagine you love the Christ while you do not love his blessed mother ?
Because:
AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH.' Mk 12:30 NASB (caps are rendering in the NASB)
Guess Mark left out the part of loving Mary.
Do they talk to you ? Do you hear audible voices ? Your claim is false. AntiCatholicism is not Christianity and it does not save.
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