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Pope Francis to Catholics: ‘Who are you to judge others?’
Religion News ^ | June 20, 2016 | Rosie Scammell

Posted on 08/24/2016 10:43:31 AM PDT by Gamecock

VATICAN CITY (RNS) Stop being judgmental hypocrites and take a look at yourself in the mirror — without covering up your wrinkles — Pope Francis advised Catholics in a sermon that reprised one of his favorite themes.

In his last homily at morning Mass before taking a break for the summer, Francis on Monday (June 20) said those who constantly judge people should instead reflect on their own behavior.

“Look in the mirror, but not to put on makeup to hide the wrinkles. No, no, no, that’s not the advice! Look in the mirror to look at yourself as you are,” the pope said, in a report by Vatican Radio.

“How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ while the log is still in your eye?” he continued. “And how does the Lord look at us then, when we do this? One word: ‘hypocrite.’ First take the log out of your eye, and then you shall see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.'”

Vatican Radio usually has a reporter present at the pontiff’s daily morning Mass in the small chapel at the Vatican guest house where Francis lives. The pope will continue to celebrate Mass daily as usual, but without coverage of his remarks.

In this latest homily, the pope said those who are overly critical of others rather than looking at themselves are viewed as hypocrites by the Lord, and should not try and take God’s place:

“Being judgmental is very ugly. Judgment belongs only to God, to Him alone!”

The pontiff instead urged his followers to focus on love, understanding and mercy — the latter being the theme of the Catholic Church’s current Holy Year jubilee.

His comments continue a central theme of his papacy, during which Francis has promoted a pastoral approach to Catholicism rather than the unforgiving imposition of canon law.

While such an approach has been widely praised, the pope has also been accused by traditionalists of trying to water down church doctrine.

Francis is famous — and controversial, to some — for once saying, in reply to a question on whether gay men could become priests, “Who am I to judge?”


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To: Gamecock

Watch this pope with the issue of not being judgemental. I have a feeling he is setting the stage for forcing upon us his feelings about homosexuality, divorced catholics and other things.

It is wrong telling Catholics to be non-judgemental. A Catholic is forced to be judgemental about sin by the lord Jesus Christ. Why else would he have left us all the parables about how to behave. I think the pope is very wrong in trying to destroy that part of the Catholic mindset. What’s more, I think he knows and it is deliberate. How else do you undermine a Catholic’s way of determining what is right and what is wrong?

Watch this guy! He could lead many astray.


81 posted on 08/24/2016 4:55:36 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent (EEe)
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To: Gamecock

Watch this pope with the issue of not being judgemental. I have a feeling he is setting the stage for forcing upon us his feelings about homosexuality, divorced catholics and other things.

It is wrong telling Catholics to be non-judgemental. A Catholic is forced to be judgemental about sin by the lord Jesus Christ. Why else would he have left us all the parables about how to behave. I think the pope is very wrong in trying to destroy that part of the Catholic mindset. What’s more, I think he knows and it is deliberate. How else do you undermine a Catholic’s way of determining what is right and what is wrong?

Watch this guy! He could lead many astray. Where is Bishop Sheen when you need him?


82 posted on 08/24/2016 4:58:11 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent (EEe)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; metmom

Who decides? Are you more Catholic than the countless Catholics who agree with and adore him? What makes your stance right and theirs wrong?

I mean he is trained in the church and was elected by Cardinals who we have been told are guided by the Holy Spirit when locked up in The Vatican.

Was the Holy Spirit on vacation the day Francis was elected?


83 posted on 08/24/2016 5:40:18 PM PDT by Gamecock (There is always one more idiot than you counted on.)
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To: bigdaddy45
He WILL head to the valley of Meggido ...
84 posted on 08/24/2016 5:46:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: HLPhat

You are in error trying to apply that passage to the current discussion. That passage is the state of affairs AFTER the restrainer is taken out of the way ‘and that wickedness be revealed’.


85 posted on 08/24/2016 5:48:23 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: Gamecock
I mean he is trained in the church and was elected by Cardinals who we have been told are guided by the Holy Spirit when locked up in The Vatican.

I remember asking some time ago, if the Holy spirit guided the college of cardinals in their selection of the new pope and don't ever recall getting a clear or definitive answer.

86 posted on 08/24/2016 6:10:32 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
Well this is interesting discussion on the whole process:

In the afternoon, they assemble in the Pauline Chapel and invoke the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

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While these regulations seem very exacting, we must not forget the role of the Holy Spirit. Throughout the conclave, the Cardinal electors, individually and collectively, implore the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Such divine aid was best exemplified in the election of Pope John Paul II. Who would have thought that the fifty-eight-year-old Archbishop of Cracow, Poland (at that time a communist country behind the Iron Curtain and under the control of the atheistic Soviet Union) would be elected Pope? He was not one of the media’s papabili or one of the Vatican curial officials. But what a great blessing he has been and is for our Church. Truly, one day he will be known as “Pope John Paul II, the Great.” Therefore, we may rest assured that, whenever the occasion will arise, another Successor of St. Peter will be elected under the guidance of the Holy Spirit to lead the Holy Roman Catholic Church.

Source


87 posted on 08/24/2016 6:27:51 PM PDT by Gamecock (There is always one more idiot than you counted on.)
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To: Gamecock
Therefore, we may rest assured that, whenever the occasion will arise, another Successor of St. Peter will be elected under the guidance of the Holy Spirit to lead the Holy Roman Catholic Church.

So Catholics then are telling us that the Holy Spirit selected Francis?

Then if they are fighting him, they are fighting God, aren't they?

88 posted on 08/24/2016 6:50:23 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

Based on my understanding of the Trinity, yes.


89 posted on 08/24/2016 6:55:21 PM PDT by Gamecock (There is always one more idiot than you counted on.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It's only Catholic doctrine that's binding, not papal opinion.

Then why even HAVE a 'pope'?

90 posted on 08/24/2016 7:32:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: maxwellsmart_agent
Where is Bishop Sheen when you need him?

Let this Prot help...



 
 
 
Tolerance is an attitude of reasoned patience toward evil ... a forbearance that restrains us from showing anger or inflicting punishment.
Tolerance applies only to persons ... never to truth.
 
America, it is said, is suffering from intolerance — it is not.
It is suffering from tolerance.
Tolerance of right and wrong, truth and error, virtue and evil, Christ and chaos.
Our country is not nearly so overrun with the bigoted as it is overrun with the broadminded.
 
"A Plea For Intolerance" (1931)
 

 
Too many people get credit for being good, when they are only being passive.
They are too often praised for being broadminded when they are so broadminded they can never make up their minds about anything.
 
As quoted in Seven Words to the Cross (1979) by Ellsworth Kalas, page 93.

91 posted on 08/24/2016 7:35:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gamecock; Normandy; StormPrepper; teppe
In the afternoon, they assemble in the Pauline Chapel and invoke the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

And then they VOTE.

sometime more than once.

Or twice...


At least when the Mormon Quorum of Twelve votes; it is ALWAYS unanimous!

92 posted on 08/24/2016 7:40:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Oh, gosh. How much of an essay do you want?

The pope's the Bishop of Rome. Not an all-purpose oracle. He inherits St. Peter's ministry of "tending the sheep" and "confirming the brethren" as well as "binding and loosing" (per Jesus' symbolic awarding of Peter's "keys"), that is, making binding decisions of both the doctrinal and disciplinary sort. This is by Jesus' appointment, as evidenced in the NT.

However, his decisions are not "binding" if he expresses them as "his viewpoint" and does not invoke his authority, which is based on (among other things) first, fidelity to Divine Revelation as it is given to us in Scripture, and then continuity with his 200+ papal predecessors, official acts of 21 Ecumenical Councils, etc.

The logical law of Non-Contradiction still applies!

So you can see he decisions are controlled (or you might say "constrained") by 73 books of Sacred Scripture and 2,000 years of precedent in the form of Sacred Tradition and the Ordinary Magisterium. In other words, the teaching authority of those who went before.

That's a whole lotta precedent. It does not give any single reigning pope much leeway at all to say anything "new," since what can you say that hasn't already been ruled on rather repetitively by your predecessors in the 8th, and 12th, and 19th century?

So the pope's main job is not the "invention" of doctrine, but its application.

Since it's now past midnight in my time zone, I bid you a sleepy adieu until tomorrow. Sweet dreams, Elsie.

93 posted on 08/24/2016 9:08:20 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It's like deva-vu all over again." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Gamecock
This should help:

#93

94 posted on 08/24/2016 9:10:18 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It's like deva-vu all over again." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

So; once again; just WHY does Rome need a pope?


95 posted on 08/25/2016 3:54:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

So, once again, Matt 16:19.

Stuck in the middle with Peter.


96 posted on 08/25/2016 4:35:53 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: newgeezer
A few months ago, I saw a meme with a fitting response:

"Quote not the Scriptures out of context, lest ye be like Satan."

That's a good one!

97 posted on 08/25/2016 5:04:22 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.)
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To: Elsie

Thanks Elsie!


98 posted on 08/25/2016 7:59:42 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent (EEe)
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To: MHGinTN
>>You are in error trying to apply that passage to the current discussion

Nah, like Pascal - Barnes is right on target.   Delusional (fraudulent) systems, like the one concocted by the Jesuit whore of Babylon, have been part of human nature for as long as there has been human nature.



2 Thessalonians 2:10

And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

[And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness] There are two ideas here. The first is, that there would be deceit; and the other is, that it would be for the purpose of promoting unrighteousness or iniquity. The iniquitous system would be maintained by fraudulent methods. No one who has read Pascal's Provincial Letters can ever doubt that this description is applicable to the system of the Jesuits; and no one familiar with the acts of the papacy, as they have always been practiced, can doubt that the whole system is accurately described by this language. The plausible reasoning by which the advocates of that system have palliated and apologized for sins of various kinds, has been among its most remarkable features.

[In them that perish Among those who will perish; that is, among the abandoned and wicked. The reference is to men of corrupt minds and lives, over whom this system would have power; countenancing them in their depravity, and fitting them still farther for destruction. The idea is, that these acts would have special reference to men who would be lost at any rate, and who would be sustained in their wickedness by this false and delusive system.

[Because they received not the love of the truth] They prefer this system of error and delusion to the simple and pure gospel, by which they might have been saved.
(from Barnes' Notes, Electronic Database Copyright © 1997, 2003, 2005, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)


99 posted on 08/25/2016 8:32:24 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: MHGinTN
[The world’s first city developed around its temples, and only later did palaces play a role. Its view of the world was conditioned, as in all ancient societies, by totalitarian religious belief. So the picture that comes into focus is that of a theocratic command economy, hierarchically organized, centrally directed, and regulated according to an ideology propagated by a priesthood, playing the role that, 5,000 years later, Soviet Marxists would call ‘the engineers of human souls’. Such was temple rule.

As a way of life, the economic and social system the priesthood supported was, for a long time, strikingly successful.]

Kriwaczek, Paul. Babylon: Mesopotamia and the Birth of Civilization (p. 53). St. Martin's Press. Kindle Edition.

Same ol' Ba'alshyte, different municipal toilet.

"AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE"

100 posted on 08/25/2016 8:38:22 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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